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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:40 GMT
#281
On December 30 2015 01:40 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:35 Shapelog wrote:
Also people reaction times are already interesting enough. Like it took NM 5 mins to respond to it (although he was on before so idk)


Might be my scrub showing, but I wouldn't think on that too much. Since we're on the internet, I would imagine people are bouncing between a couple of tabs before they come back to refresh this page. I know I often go back and review my own posts because I feel picky about sentence structure and grammar, etc. That really bothers me in this setup because I can't edit so if I post and see something I don't like, I'm forced to accept my repetitive structure or run-on sentence, etc.


Which is to offer another explanation why it would take longer to respond.
We CAN have nice things
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 16:42 GMT
#282
On December 30 2015 01:40 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:35 Shapelog wrote:
Also people reaction times are already interesting enough. Like it took NM 5 mins to respond to it (although he was on before so idk)


Might be my scrub showing, but I wouldn't think on that too much. Since we're on the internet, I would imagine people are bouncing between a couple of tabs before they come back to refresh this page. I know I often go back and review my own posts because I feel picky about sentence structure and grammar, etc. That really bothers me in this setup because I can't edit so if I post and see something I don't like, I'm forced to accept my repetitive structure or run-on sentence, etc.


Same, I have written disgrapia too so it is a major bother of my when i see i fucked something up and i can't fix it. It might not mean a lot also (im scrub with this shit too so.) that is why im am unsure if it matters or not.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
December 29 2015 16:45 GMT
#283
I don't think reaction times say much at all. They're just influenced by too many different things
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 16:46 GMT
#284
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 29 2015 16:47 GMT
#285
On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote:
I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now...

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:59 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name?

And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet.


Nop. Just kush.

Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase"

No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI)

What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


If this is jokephase I got one:

What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating?
+ Show Spoiler +
Promoted to diamond league


It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself.

On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town.


Why am I likely town?


Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet.

On December 29 2015 09:02 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt, what did you find fishy about Glowings opening?


He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like.

On December 29 2015 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol did I? Anyway, you're now my buddy!!!


On December 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
100% true

##Vote: kush


On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
You're the quickest townread I have ever had!

Hi! Welcome to the forums!

Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax


He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts.


This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well.

I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime)


This is a terrible townread I'm about to make but so be it. I don't think scum would say that they could "possibly jump" on something. That low degree of suspicion looks natural.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 29 2015 16:54 GMT
#286
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 16:57 GMT
#287
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


Does that mean, barring any exceptional circumstances, he's a lynch vote for you by meta-knowledge alone?
We CAN have nice things
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#288
On December 30 2015 01:47 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote:
I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now...

On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:59 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name?

And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet.


Nop. Just kush.

Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase"

No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI)

What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


If this is jokephase I got one:

What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating?
+ Show Spoiler +
Promoted to diamond league


It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself.

On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town.


Why am I likely town?


Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet.

On December 29 2015 09:02 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt, what did you find fishy about Glowings opening?


He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like.

On December 29 2015 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol did I? Anyway, you're now my buddy!!!


On December 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
100% true

##Vote: kush


On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
You're the quickest townread I have ever had!

Hi! Welcome to the forums!

Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax


He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts.


This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well.

I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime)


This is a terrible townread I'm about to make but so be it. I don't think scum would say that they could "possibly jump" on something. That low degree of suspicion looks natural.


U have a point. Thou, it may be the way he talks tbh. I know i say stuff like "this is weird" instead of "wtf are u talking about." Might not though
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 17:05 GMT
#289
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
December 29 2015 17:06 GMT
#290
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.

I don't think talking about the probability of lynching scum D1 is a good idea. I will strongly oppose a lynch like that, if you still want to plynch Onegu at the end of the day.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 29 2015 17:09 GMT
#291
On December 30 2015 01:57 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


Does that mean, barring any exceptional circumstances, he's a lynch vote for you by meta-knowledge alone?


My vote isn't set in stone.
It is based on meta and his activity so far this game.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 29 2015 17:11 GMT
#292
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 17:16 GMT
#293
On December 30 2015 02:11 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.


We shall untie and kill you. Then sacrifice u to our Kita god ^.^
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#294
On December 30 2015 02:16 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:11 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.


We shall untie and kill you. Then sacrifice u to our Kita god ^.^


I would think he'd be easier to kill if we kept him tied up.
We CAN have nice things
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
December 29 2015 17:21 GMT
#295
On December 30 2015 02:19 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:16 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:11 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.


We shall untie and kill you. Then sacrifice u to our Kita god ^.^


I would think he'd be easier to kill if we kept him tied up.

That's not nearly as fun, though.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#296
On December 30 2015 02:19 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:16 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:11 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:54 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I want to plynch onegu.

Even though i maybe know why. Explain por favor?


plynch = policy lynch
I think it's the optimal lynch. I don't have a scumread on onegu. But the probability of lynching scum d1 is low. Onegu is probably going to be an unreadable entity all game long, so it's best to get him out of the way now.


I fine for voting onegu, but i prob. not going to keep my vote on him based off a policy lynch. I mean if it is 30 mins till deadline and he hasn't done shit thats one case. but basing it on the fact of unreadablity kinda ruins the game IMO. Why get rid of the hard to read players? If anything this is a newbie game and we should keep him around because of it.

I have no reason like u to Scum read or town read him. But i am going to wait till later to vote for him (at least for now).

Idk i need more then plynch to justify.


screw the newbies. i want to win.


We shall untie and kill you. Then sacrifice u to our Kita god ^.^


I would think he'd be easier to kill if we kept him tied up.

I only do Bondage on the weekends. Period.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 29 2015 17:36 GMT
#297
Did we ever decide what we are going to do about New years eve and new years?
Wait did we even discuss it pre-game?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 29 2015 18:00 GMT
#298
On December 29 2015 09:47 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt - Thanks for your elaboration on your Glowing scum lean, I don't agree with it at all but I can at least understand it now. I think being "helpful" in that manner is more playstyle based combined with the being a newbie game and don't think it's an issue, if anything the phrasing behind his town read on me "You're the quickest town read I've ever had" actually came across as genuine and am leaning town on him at the moment.

@Glowing - I don't make anything of NM's opening in #194 at all, is your "I like this opening" in an alignment indicative sense or just find it enjoyable? Kind of hard to tell from what you wrote.

@NM - I am well aware of the definition of "Anti-Town", what I liked was the speed of Noons reaction towards Glowings comment (The difference between it being posted and his response was 1 minute) which fits more with a natural townie reaction towards the comment being "That's going to hurt us" one and while I don't doubt that it's fake-able for mafia to do that I just find that mafia are more likely to think through the post or it's consequences more there. Again it's not a strong town read but out of everything that had occurred at the time it's only town read I had.


I like it like it's coming from town. His tone feels like carefree too.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 29 2015 18:02 GMT
#299
On December 29 2015 09:53 Irishbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 09:33 NocturneMage wrote:Looking at Scott's comment, he's just saying I agree. Does he try to make anything of it? If he was pushing an agenda, I'd argue he was mafia of it. The tone behind that comment is light enough to me (wording: haven't you learned Bear, although this is also me knowing that Scott will call him MafiaBear or Bear or whatever) on a comment I felt could have come from anywhere. I see what you mean by possibly an easy entrance though and how that point can make sense from your perspective. The other thing I don't understand is why you are equating the joke statement as awkward. Is this based on some of the places where you've placed mafia from or....?

His agreement with Nooni (and it being the only thing inside his post) means that there's even more focus on Glowing due to it, that's something that has scum motivation behind it since it a) Allows him to enter the thread in a fairly easy manner and not make a lot of ripples and b) Allows him to help dictate where early focus is, that's my concern with his post there.

As for Giyga joke being awkward that's actually ridiculously hard to put into words but I'll give it a go; I think some players will make joke type posts regardless of alignment so them making a joke alone doesn't mean a whole lot but I do find that the phrasing or context of the joke occasionally is different as mafia, there's a more forced element behind the posting? Giygas post came across that way to me and while it's not a strong enough thing that I'd lynch or vote on alone it does mean that I will focus slightly more on combing over his future posts.


Are you sure you're not Foolishness?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#300
On December 29 2015 10:41 GiygaS wrote:
The joke was forced in that I wanted to post to say "I'm here" basically, but didn't really have much to say.

As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post.


I dislike this post. Trying to fit in is exactly what Mafia struggles with in the beginning of the gam me. Plus, if you agree with me about the opening, it doesn't make sense to be suspicious of me.

Answer me this: what is the Mafia motivation behind calling someone town from his opening?
I'm adorable.
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