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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
On December 29 2015 09:28 Shapelog wrote: I like Kmatt, he hates my main race in sc2 ^.^ (though, tbf i do not use ults a lot, only like 60% of my ZvT games) I meant that as I play Zerg, and got promoted shortly after coming back for LotV. Now I can't tell if it's because I got the hang of it quicker or I was carried by Ultras. It's all ZvZs anyway so I think I'm good. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote: I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. Looking at Scott's comment, he's just saying I agree. Does he try to make anything of it? If he was pushing an agenda, I'd argue he was mafia of it. The tone behind that comment is light enough to me (wording: haven't you learned Bear, although this is also me knowing that Scott will call him MafiaBear or Bear or whatever) on a comment I felt could have come from anywhere. I see what you mean by possibly an easy entrance though and how that point can make sense from your perspective. The other thing I don't understand is why you are equating the joke statement as awkward. Is this based on some of the places where you've placed mafia from or....? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 09:20 Kmatt wrote: You know it's one thing for the SC2 purists to trash DOTA but I'm not about to take that from "DOTA: Casual Cashgrab edition" Pfffffffff that's what everyone says. We're too casual. Meh. I just think dota players are too elitist  My wife picked up dota from her brother to be fair, he lives in the US so she is more easily able to play with him than she would have if they both played LoL. Meh. At least I married another gamer. xD | ||
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Irishbound
42 Posts
@Glowing - I don't make anything of NM's opening in #194 at all, is your "I like this opening" in an alignment indicative sense or just find it enjoyable? Kind of hard to tell from what you wrote. @NM - I am well aware of the definition of "Anti-Town", what I liked was the speed of Noons reaction towards Glowings comment (The difference between it being posted and his response was 1 minute) which fits more with a natural townie reaction towards the comment being "That's going to hurt us" one and while I don't doubt that it's fake-able for mafia to do that I just find that mafia are more likely to think through the post or it's consequences more there. Again it's not a strong town read but out of everything that had occurred at the time it's only town read I had. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
GigyaS first few posts - not really getting much either way out of his 3 posts. First post (172) is banter, could come from either alignment. 186 (experience query) same deal, either alignment. Third post might warrant a slight town lean, possible mindmeld looking into Irish's experience as a possible detriment from a perspective standpoint. However the caveat here is that it's not entirely clear whether GigyaS townreads Irish lightly or doesn't at all. It's not explicit. | ||
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Irishbound
42 Posts
On December 29 2015 09:33 NocturneMage wrote:Looking at Scott's comment, he's just saying I agree. Does he try to make anything of it? If he was pushing an agenda, I'd argue he was mafia of it. The tone behind that comment is light enough to me (wording: haven't you learned Bear, although this is also me knowing that Scott will call him MafiaBear or Bear or whatever) on a comment I felt could have come from anywhere. I see what you mean by possibly an easy entrance though and how that point can make sense from your perspective. The other thing I don't understand is why you are equating the joke statement as awkward. Is this based on some of the places where you've placed mafia from or....? His agreement with Nooni (and it being the only thing inside his post) means that there's even more focus on Glowing due to it, that's something that has scum motivation behind it since it a) Allows him to enter the thread in a fairly easy manner and not make a lot of ripples and b) Allows him to help dictate where early focus is, that's my concern with his post there. As for Giyga joke being awkward that's actually ridiculously hard to put into words but I'll give it a go; I think some players will make joke type posts regardless of alignment so them making a joke alone doesn't mean a whole lot but I do find that the phrasing or context of the joke occasionally is different as mafia, there's a more forced element behind the posting? Giygas post came across that way to me and while it's not a strong enough thing that I'd lynch or vote on alone it does mean that I will focus slightly more on combing over his future posts. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
From the perspective of an experienced player, and/or based on his repetition you suggested, do you see that possibly coming from town or mafia? Do you see any other interactions from GB that would point you towards either direction. Furthermore, do you have any other observations on the other players that have made reads/interactions in thread? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 09:28 Shapelog wrote: I fall asleep after eating and 1 and half pages gets written, was hoping for more. Any ways, I can understand Kmatt and about how GB is putting a postive vibe out there. Personally though, its not enough for me to really be concern about it. Only GB town read on irish is weird I like Kmatt, he hates my main race in sc2 ^.^ (though, tbf i do not use ults a lot, only like 60% of my ZvT games) Mostly everything is NAI towards me or reads slightly AL. Irish's intro to me seemed a bit construed when i 1st read it but now seems a bit more free flowing. I can see the town points GB is talking about but i do not think that warrents him a free town read. IDK, idc for strong town reads on a person on D1 (Rikoty lol) What do you mean by AL? Also do you think the bolded is more likely to make GB town or mafia? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 09:47 Irishbound wrote: @NM - I am well aware of the definition of "Anti-Town", what I liked was the speed of Noons reaction towards Glowings comment (The difference between it being posted and his response was 1 minute) which fits more with a natural townie reaction towards the comment being "That's going to hurt us" one and while I don't doubt that it's fake-able for mafia to do that I just find that mafia are more likely to think through the post or it's consequences more there. Again it's not a strong town read but out of everything that had occurred at the time it's only town read I had. Alright, I see what you mean by the timestamps, I can accept this explanation, fair enough. | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
On December 29 2015 10:00 NocturneMage wrote: KMatt from post 197 you are suggesting that probability is a reason that GB is more likely town, yet the reality here is 3/11 chance (I know I'm town and you would on yourself from the perspective that you are town) there is mafia and in this case, that you might suggest there is potential mafia behaviour (buddying in this case) for GB. From the perspective of an experienced player, and/or based on his repetition you suggested, do you see that possibly coming from town or mafia? Do you see any other interactions from GB that would point you towards either direction. Furthermore, do you have any other observations on the other players that have made reads/interactions in thread? I didn't really mean anything by saying that he was "probably town", just purely the 3/11 (27%) vs 8/11 (73%) chance factor. I actually didn't think about the buddying factor though, since none of the people he was "buddying" came off as suspicious to me. I wouldn't go as far as to say that GB is showing mafia behavior, just that he stood out to me. If I had to guess right now, his posts would make more sense for a mafia to do. However, that seems like it would be an obvious (mafia) rookie mistake (considering a scrub "caught" him on it), which I wouldn't expect of him. I'm still neutral on it for now. Kind of the same with Irish. He's certainly putting more ideas out there than a lot of other posters, but nothing that would really swing me either way. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:11 GiygaS wrote: Failed first post means you're 100% scum, sorry you got discovered so quick man Alright I didn't find this opening "forced' but from the perspective of a player (this is at Irishbound) not familiar with the site or the players, I can see where this sentiment would be reasonable. No issues there. Did you make anything out of GigyaS third post or not really? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On December 29 2015 10:04 NocturneMage wrote: What do you mean by AL? Also do you think the bolded is more likely to make GB town or mafia? Al, Alignment indicative I would say mafia, but considering i did the same with rikoty and he turned out to be town.....I am not really going to commit YET. I just got back on, I am as tired as shit for some reasom. I am going to just start over and read the thread again from the day post. @Kmatt, I feel u, ZvZ is hell | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote: You're the quickest townread I have ever had! Hi! Welcome to the forums! Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong. Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax GB throwing out townreads like it's drunken Monday - hmmm... On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote: I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right  You get a townlean for this Irish. On December 29 2015 09:08 NocturneMage wrote: Greetings everybody! We're going to start the day by getting rid of obvious scum. And by obvious scum, I mean the dota players. Because as we all know Dota is a shitty game played by shitty people so it's never too soon to start taking out the trash! ##vote Fidei86 Fidei is the worst of them all, as he's openly admitted pre-game, he steals my wife on a regular basis playing dota with her in the evenings. After Fidei, we plow through Onegu who I understand plays with her on occassion and then we take out GlowingBear who has told me in a previous scum qt (newbie 13) that he wouldn't coach me because I'm a League player.  Welp. EZ game EZ lyfe get rekt scum. I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now... On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote: Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet. He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like. He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts. This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well. I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime) | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote: I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. On December 29 2015 07:11 GiygaS wrote: Failed first post means you're 100% scum, sorry you got discovered so quick man Can you please explain why u think the above statement has more of a chance to be written by mafia then by town? Like I want to learn. Is it because if he is scum he would be looking for a way into the thread and chooses a joke to hop on or what not? | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On December 29 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:  I wanted to be blue so muchConsidering the fact that he made a post in Outlaw saying he was mafia as his intro. I am more inclined to say this is his BS. Who knows, Maybe he is blue (which i doubt). But this is awful like people said if he is normal town. Idk about scum thou. I don't think scum would bring that much attention onto themselves. Maybe he is scum, and post it not caring/thinking about the results. And then again, not caring is what gets you town read since the stereotypical townie. On December 29 2015 08:25 GlowingBear wrote: Pretty much sincere opening with him giving an opinion right away on what he likes. Sounds like someone who feels free to play the game without concern of how he looks. I feel this is a good reason to town read someone. But This is wayyyyyy to early, IMO, to assess someone on their carefreeness. If this post came after a few other posts and a bit later, I would say GB is a town lean b/c he is interested in solving the game and made a good read. But tbh this feels more like a NAI to even a scum thing to do considering how quicky he town read Irish. IDK, I really hate early town reads......... | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On December 29 2015 11:13 GiygaS wrote: He thinks that the joke feels forced, which in his defense it sort of was. Ah ok. Your not sure if you forced your own joke? You will have a horrible life as a Jester. | ||
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