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RtaniSoul
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:46 RtaniSoul wrote: If those were our only reasons, then yes, they would be weak. Also, rayn's reasons for townreading GM are excellent lol >< You've just said: You're right. If we'd townread GM for attacking Damdred specifically for that reason, rather than because pushing damdred and rayn is a high-risk, low-reward play with scum marv afk...that would be weird. in defense of another question. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:53 Rels wrote: @rayn: I'm not convinced by that. The moment marv came back to the thread, he had one post stating "marv you're probably still scum", then found weird things in my filter and voted me with you all, then refused to switch back to marv even though he stated marv's posting spree wasn't alignement indicative. I literally just quoted four posts where he cast doubt on marv after marv came back to the thread.... In the end you can make the last argument you just did, but for anyone else it's not legit because if YOU are scum, then Greymist was JUST as right as everyone voting for marv. So yes, until your alignment is confirmed, that is WIFOM. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I literally just quoted four posts where he cast doubt on marv after marv came back to the thread.... In the end you can make the last argument you just did, but for anyone else it's not legit because if YOU are scum, then Greymist was JUST as right as everyone voting for marv. So yes, until your alignment is confirmed, that is WIFOM. So if I'm town what you've just said doesn't mean anything anymore ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
But i don't wanna be a dick so i am trying to look at it objectively. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:56 Rels wrote: So if I'm town what you've just said doesn't mean anything anymore ? No, that means you have a point. The problem is the point cannot be proven. That was not MY point in why Greymist is town, it was YOUR point on why he is scum. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: And for the record Rels, your EOD is pure shit in comparison to Greymist's... But i don't wanna be a dick so i am trying to look at it objectively. If you don't wanna be a dick stop being a fucking dick. My EOD is not pure shit my EOD is me checking the thread moments before being lynched. You are bad for almost lynching me because marv posted for 10 minutes, when arsoul was AFK and GM "tried" to resist the switch, then found 2 weird things in my filter (one being not scum indicative and one that I will expand on when he answers), switched to me, then really resist the switch back to marv. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You know i was fucking this close switching my vote back to you... And i am not sure at all it would have been a bad thing. | ||
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RtaniSoul
552 Posts
On December 15 2015 00:54 Rels wrote: You've just said: You're right. If we'd townread GM for attacking Damdred specifically for that reason, rather than because pushing damdred and rayn is a high-risk, low-reward play with scum marv afk...that would be weird. in defense of another question. Let us lay it down for you again. We kinda townread GM because A) his posts just look townie to us in the sense that there doesn't seem to be much of an agenda and B) because he attacked Damdred and Rayn to begin with when they were universally townread. The fact that he retracted those scumreads later doesn't necessarily make it that much weaker. Additinoally, Rayn's posts about why GM being scum doesn't make any sense makes us think he's more likely town than you. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
He does cast doubt towards Marv, but he drops that doubt pretty quickly even though Marv basically ignored interacting with him. Also for someone who has doubts about Marv refusing to move back to scum Marv and looking maybe to go elsewhere other than Marv and rels is super strange. Like if he's doubting Marv why so staunch on rels? It doesn't make sense | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 14 2015 06:45 Rels wrote: Marv not voting me is town indicative. Damdred and rayn were townreads. So scum are between gm dp and rsoul I think. ##Unvote ##Vote arsoultin Did the minimal work while not being under fire. Real fast while I figure shit out. Is this the only reason you had for not voting marv? becuase its the only one I see. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote: Rayn I do have an issue with that greymist part. He does cast doubt towards Marv, but he drops that doubt pretty quickly even though Marv basically ignored interacting with him. Also for someone who has doubts about Marv refusing to move back to scum Marv and looking maybe to go elsewhere other than Marv and rels is super strange. Like if he's doubting Marv why so staunch on rels? It doesn't make sense Okay Damdred, let me ask you something: How sure you were when you switched your vote and why, in final you made your choice? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
GM I'm waiting for you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=17#329 (only the 2nd thing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=18#344 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=19#365 | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:04 GreYMisT wrote: Real fast while I figure shit out. Is this the only reason you had for not voting marv? becuase its the only one I see. Yep. | ||
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RtaniSoul
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Can you explain that as well as you can -- let it all come from your heart <3 | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote: Rayn I do have an issue with that greymist part. He does cast doubt towards Marv, but he drops that doubt pretty quickly even though Marv basically ignored interacting with him. Also for someone who has doubts about Marv refusing to move back to scum Marv and looking maybe to go elsewhere other than Marv and rels is super strange. Like if he's doubting Marv why so staunch on rels? It doesn't make sense And the reason for this was, at the time the chaos started, Marv said he was gone. There would be no more answers or conversations with him. I decided that voting Rels was a better play as I had a day's worth of information, while anything I had on marv was clouded by the fact that he was only here for a very minimal amount of time. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Greymist too, why didn't you switch back in the end. Can you explain that as well as you can -- let it all come from your heart <3 see above | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:04 Rels wrote: OK if I'm not welcome here I will wait for these to get answers before coming back. GM I'm waiting for you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=17#329 (only the 2nd thing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=18#344 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=19#365 1) I dont understand the question 2) it looks like you are panicing and not trying to actually find scum. A town player in that situation would try to help and get the vote off of him, you said "shut up scum" voted rayn, realized that wasnt happening, and voted off. 3) and I think i might have misquoted as you said. I see it as a 3rd party defense because I posted suspicions of ryan, and you came in and broke down the post instead of waiting to see how rayn would react to it, like I would assume a town would who wants more information. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On December 15 2015 01:04 Rels wrote: OK if I'm not welcome here [...] Noone says you are not welcome here. I just don't find your reasoning quite compelling to be honest.  Rels you have to understand you are one (if not the biggest) of the main suspects right now, for all the people in the game. Regardless of your affiliation you can't really make cases based on "i know i am town so... then this and that" because it is just not believable at this point. Many times you have asked about things that have been answered already, instead you should go read again, maybe take a chill pill (i am not saying this in a bad way -- i just think your aggression is sorta.. "midless" at times). And find stuff that is good. That's the best way to convince ppl you are not scum if you indeed are not. Because at least i won't buy "this crazy guy must be town" cases as i know that doesn't apply to you. | ||
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