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DarthPunk
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Rels
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 15:41 DarthPunk wrote: Rels Lol? Wtf? I keep town reading him for his panics and his super fast switching/ tunnels. Anyone know if he could play that kind of scum game? I thought you read some games of mine ? You didn't read any scum games ? I could do that as scum. But, WIFOM alert, I wouldn't if I was scum with marv. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On December 14 2015 17:41 Rels wrote: I thought you read some games of mine ? You didn't read any scum games ? I could do that as scum. But, WIFOM alert, I wouldn't if I was scum with marv. I skimmed some games. No scum games i think. Who do you think looks best and who looks worst from the marv flip? | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 17:45 DarthPunk wrote: I skimmed some games. No scum games i think. Who do you think looks best and who looks worst from the marv flip? You and GM look the worst for switching off marv and not voting him again. And GM looks the worst of you two for not looking for scum during EOD, but posting stuff like "never switching off Rels" and "marv does not seem like the best lynch". That might change when I'm caught up ofc. | ||
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Rels
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On December 12 2015 23:26 Rels wrote: But they didn't push that thing until rayn said it was DP's way of playing. haha I totally misread that post. Sry Damdred p: TBF I have no idea how I have 4 pages of filter when I didn't do anything for the whole game. I totally understand that I was almost lynched. | ||
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On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote: I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me. I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be. Man rereading this, it sounds even more like the lamest excuse in the universe. That's exactly the kind of answer a mafia would give to look good. And it doesn't match up with his previous post: On December 12 2015 22:36 GreYMisT wrote: If I'm being honest I have only had time to look at a few past games, but from what I have seen Damdred seems town to me. In his town games he seems willing to talk about other people, whereas in mafia games he only seems to ask questions to people. I'm not sure about Darthpunk. I would have probably answered his questions differently if I were him, but admittedly that doesn't really mean anything. I don't have an opinion on anyone else quite yet. It's unusual at least for me, for Marv not to be super active early. But it is just a quarter into the day and he might have changed his marvy ways since I last saw him. In any case, I'll have more detailed opinions later. He didn't say "I have some opinions but I want to reread stuff / wait for more stuff to happen", he said "I don't have an opinion on anyone else quite yet". So in the later post, he changed his story from the previous post. | ||
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On December 13 2015 08:41 DarthPunk wrote: Oh about RSO just rephrasing the exact shit she just said and then saying it again. I am fairly sure she did that exact thing all the time in my last game with her. She was town then FWIW. I still don't understand why rsoul would say that. rayn clearly stated in his post "DP cannot be scumread for XXX". Why would rsoul go "but rayn, let me rephrase: what we meant was XXX" ? rayn you mentionned rsoul could have a town reason to do that; what was it ? | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 00:40 GreYMisT wrote: At that time you had yet to post anything game related. in addition, he technically wasnt scum reading you, you were in s a "??" category because you had not yet posted. Because of this, I inferred that he didnt actually have a scum read on you during that time. Also I'm not townreading you. At this point i'm just trying to bring up things as I see them. Nothing in my analysis depends on one person or antother being mafia. 1 - you didn't answer why you thought rayn's thought process about being at least 1 scum between you / marv was scummy / wrong ? 2 - so you don't townread me, but rayn / damdred calling me out on me voting someone else than the person I have the most suspicions on is scummy ? I don't understand the thought process here. Why are you not considering the fact that they could be right ? Why is pressuring someone on something weird is scummy ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 14 2015 18:28 Rels wrote: I still don't understand why rsoul would say that. rayn clearly stated in his post "DP cannot be scumread for XXX". Why would rsoul go "but rayn, let me rephrase: what we meant was XXX" ? rayn you mentionned rsoul could have a town reason to do that; what was it ? I don't want to answer this yet, RtaniSoul can answer by themselves first. Rels i suggest you read the thread fully before you ask questions and make conclusions. | ||
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On December 14 2015 03:17 GreYMisT wrote: Real quick, I think here lies our misunderstanding. I didn't say I had a null read on you. What I meant was that I had not analyzed your posts yet and would later. I didn't go from null read to my analysis, I went from literally no read to my analysis That's a lie. That's true you said you reserved your analysis for later when rayn asked you about your read on him: On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote: I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. But that interrogation was created by that post, in which you clearly say you didn't have an opinion on him: On December 12 2015 22:36 GreYMisT wrote: If I'm being honest I have only had time to look at a few past games, but from what I have seen Damdred seems town to me. In his town games he seems willing to talk about other people, whereas in mafia games he only seems to ask questions to people. I'm not sure about Darthpunk. I would have probably answered his questions differently if I were him, but admittedly that doesn't really mean anything. I don't have an opinion on anyone else quite yet. It's unusual at least for me, for Marv not to be super active early. But it is just a quarter into the day and he might have changed his marvy ways since I last saw him. In any case, I'll have more detailed opinions later. | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels can you further elaborate onto your last post. I don't really get what you are saying. Why do you not understand ? Timeline: Time A: I don't have an opinion on anyone else (this includes rayn) => so null read on rayn Time B: rayn => "why do you not have an opinion on me ?" Time C: I didn't include thoughts on you 'cause I want more time to analyse you => contradicting what he said in time A Time D: I said I didn't post my opinion on you, not that I had a null read on you => contradicting what he said in time A | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 18:46 Rels wrote: 1 - you didn't answer why you thought rayn's thought process about being at least 1 scum between you / marv was scummy / wrong ? 2 - so you don't townread me, but rayn / damdred calling me out on me voting someone else than the person I have the most suspicions on is scummy ? I don't understand the thought process here. Why are you not considering the fact that they could be right ? Why is pressuring someone on something weird is scummy ? rayn what do you think of 2 ? 1, he said later he misread your post so that is solved. | ||
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Their two last posts were OK. But they said they would read the link rayn sent them and didn't, while reiterating the same thing for the third time. They weren't here for EOD when they are two players, and I find this extremely weird. I was in my birthday party and I took time to see how the game was going at deadline; I don't understand why they couldn't take time to post at EOD when they are two players. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 14 2015 19:22 Rels wrote: Why do you not understand ? Timeline: Time A: I don't have an opinion on anyone else (this includes rayn) => so null read on rayn Time B: rayn => "why do you not have an opinion on me ?" Time C: I didn't include thoughts on you 'cause I want more time to analyse you => contradicting what he said in time A Time D: I said I didn't post my opinion on you, not that I had a null read on you => contradicting what he said in time A He later on said he had no read on me because he hadn't analyzed my posts yet as you pointed out in (D). That in my opinion makes sense with (A). I don't see how (C) contradicts (A)? Like, can you just quote all the posts based on this in a chronological order and point out what the contradiction you find is? I really don't see it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 14 2015 19:33 Rels wrote: Why everybody is townreading rsoul ? I don't think anyone is townreading them. However why are you scumreading DP? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 14 2015 19:26 Rels wrote: [...] 2 - so you don't townread me, but rayn / damdred calling me out on me voting someone else than the person I have the most suspicions on is scummy ? I don't understand the thought process here. Why are you not considering the fact that they could be right ? Why is pressuring someone on something weird is scummy ? rayn what do you think of 2 ? 1, he said later he misread your post so that is solved.[/QUOTE] I would rather have Greymist answer this himself. | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: He later on said he had no read on me because he hadn't analyzed my posts yet as you pointed out in (D). That in my opinion makes sense with (A). I don't see how (C) contradicts (A)? Like, can you just quote all the posts based on this in a chronological order and point out what the contradiction you find is? I really don't see it. Yep. On December 12 2015 22:36 GreYMisT wrote: I don't have an opinion on anyone else quite yet. It's unusual at least for me, for Marv not to be super active early. But it is just a quarter into the day and he might have changed his marvy ways since I last saw him. In any case, I'll have more detailed opinions later. On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote: I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have. It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be. Then there is the analysis on rayn. Then later: On December 14 2015 03:17 GreYMisT wrote: Real quick, I think here lies our misunderstanding. I didn't say I had a null read on you. What I meant was that I had not analyzed your posts yet and would later. I didn't go from null read to my analysis, I went from literally no read to my analysis OK you're right, I cannot prove the first post to be "null read on rayn". I think his excuse in the second post is weird though. Like it's a perfectly fine thing to not have a read on you at the tipme; I even think it's townie to admit it. But him finding an kinda weird explanation for not having an opinion yet is scummy to me; it feels like he has the need to defend himself against any criticism, to prove that his play at all points in time is perfectly logical. | ||
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Rels
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On December 14 2015 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think anyone is townreading them. However why are you scumreading DP? Why did you not consider them for D1 lynch then ? And why were you townreading them after their first posts ? About DP: I don't scumread him. He was a townlean going into EOD. His EOD was NAI IMO. He unvoted marv then sheeped on me then left the thread; both alignement could do it; but if he's scum, him saying "I would sheep you rayn" after you say you want to switch off marv is certainly possible. It's possible he's town doing it too. | ||
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