EPTIs he normally this active as town? Do you guys think he might be cluttering up the thread with his huge posts on purpose this game?
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disformation
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Is he normally this active as town? Do you guys think he might be cluttering up the thread with his huge posts on purpose this game? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 25 2015 07:34 Fidei86 wrote: Most of the last 100 posts in the mafia QT are just me and Rels saying "soup hype" Still bring a smile to my face. (= Got some ideas of what to look for, will reread his filter. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
(1) inflating the filter with useless comments (not even part of alignment determining conversation or even afk comments) (2) parroting (examples post 1635) (3) 1450 to 1478 is an example of asking for information and not really doing anything of it This is insane for me. The NKs exonerate LS, but at the same time it is mindboggling this guy is doing dick all and people are ignoring him. His filter is 1000% mafia. Something isn't right. | ||
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
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meh fuck it, probably not alignment indicative anyhow. if LS is somehow town, he really can't do dick all because she clearly evades his question (Alex is being Alex, and leaves it at that), if he's mafia, he doesn't need to (and obviously really doesn't). | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
going to focus exclusively on the evolvement of the LS read first.... | ||
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Rels
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On December 08 2015 06:03 disformation wrote: Hm. scrolling through Trfel's filter... Is he normally this active as town? Do you guys think he might be cluttering up the thread with his huge posts on purpose this game? Actually he advocated lynching rsoultin in Drams so that the thread would be readable. That is a big meta point against him. Will find the exact quote. Actually couldn't find it. | ||
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Rels
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On December 08 2015 06:11 NocturneMage wrote: Rels to answer your question on LS - I have read from the point of my main exchange with him, pges 7-9 of his filter can be summarised (1) inflating the filter with useless comments (not even part of alignment determining conversation or even afk comments) (2) parroting (examples post 1635) (3) 1450 to 1478 is an example of asking for information and not really doing anything of it This is insane for me. The NKs exonerate LS, but at the same time it is mindboggling this guy is doing dick all and people are ignoring him. His filter is 1000% mafia. Something isn't right. LS is playing like that. I have a hard time reading him normally, I pretended he was obvious town the two games I was scum and he was town, but he looked super scummy to me. The key thing is: LS has a hard time lying and playing as scum. Him screaming at EOD + poping and making comment about stuff is town indicative, as is both Damdred and Palmar saying he is town. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Part 1 On December 01 2015 09:01 Fidei86 wrote: So that people know, the people in the game I know best are Half the Sky and Rels. I've been town with both, supervised both when I GMed and was Mafia with Rels once. I also have played with a lot of the rest of you before, including Moosy, Lightning Strike, Onegu and Damdred. I don't know DYH, trfel, dis, Kush or Palmar very well. first post - important for context. On December 01 2015 18:42 Fidei86 wrote: Lightning Strike's entrance seems way over the top to me, especially for him. Usually he comes in and posts some relatively anodyne 1-liners, whereas here he came in with a big long paragraph attacking someone (Trfel I think) for calling him out earlier. In my experience, town LS is much more relaxed and jokey, until he starts getting attacked seriously (which I don't think had happened by that point). Then again, LS is primo lynch-bait D1, so I'll try and avoid getting too tunnelled for now. tone read indicates mafia. is hesistant because he might be misread a bit. Below is part of the list post - edited for brevity On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote: Mafia LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O Useless Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard" Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post. DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read. Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised. A side note and a few critical questions to ask about James. I think this is what Rels was talking about. No problem with opting to policy lynch, although from my context (see first post where Fidei says he has played with Moosy) and experience (in my last newbie Moosy martyred and almost got lynched as vigilante) and when I obsed Newbie 12, (town) HTS pushed him in that game and he almost got himself lynched but then she turned around, caught a scumslip and ultimately saved Moosy, who was town. In Newbie 13, where I was mafia, he set himself up poorly day 1, and then he got modkilled. The potential issue I have here is whether we should hold an expectation that James should have KNOWN that Moosy plays like this. You can argue him wanting to lynch Moosy is a copout based on his own admitted experience with Moosy and whether he should have known how Moosy plays. From my own memory, I think James was in Newbie 12, I obsed it. I know we had 14 together, but Moosy was mafia, and swindled us all. I don't think James was in 13, where Moosy was town and I was mafia, and I don't think he was in 17. IDK. Potential scum motivation if and only if the expectation holds that he should have known Moosy better. Disclaimer: I have not researched appropriate evidence in the database. On December 03 2015 07:17 Fidei86 wrote: Like I'd vote LS over most of the rest of the players - but Moosy is a disgrace this game, and if he doesn't take this game seriously we shouldn't take him seriously. So so far, a clear scum push on LS, with the Moosy read v expectation caveat. That was through end of cycle 1. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 08 2015 06:24 Rels wrote: LS is playing like that. I have a hard time reading him normally, I pretended he was obvious town the two games I was scum and he was town, but he looked super scummy to me. The key thing is: LS has a hard time lying and playing as scum. Him screaming at EOD + poping and making comment about stuff is town indicative, as is both Damdred and Palmar saying he is town. Alright, you know what? I'm going to just take a lap of faith here and trust you people on this. I'm also going to try and delve into the database just to absolutely be sure if we're in a lylo situation and it's me and him still alive with whoever else. To me him making useless comments tells me that he's having a hard time playing as scum, he can't drive the thread forward. I mean if we get endgamed and LS turns out to be mafia (or if he flips mafia for whatever reason) I am honestly going to be raging at EVERYONE - and I MEAN EVERYONE - in the post game for meta that could be broken or easily faked. | ||
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disformation
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On December 08 2015 06:59 LightningStrike wrote: I do have a ton of games under my belt but I was mainly given you my more recent games plus all my scum games Yes. Yes. Good. Good. But why is your filter so long without giving me a clue where your current reads/thoughts are at? | ||
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Rels
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Good night all! | ||
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LightningStrike
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On December 08 2015 07:05 disformation wrote: Yes. Yes. Good. Good. But why is your filter so long without giving me a clue where your current reads/thoughts are at? Ugh they are towards the end of the filter except I starting to rethink about my scum read on DYH. Like his responses to questioning I was trying to see where he's at outside of HTS although it wasn't really well explained but it's better than nothing I guess. Moved DYH to null. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Vote Count disformation (1): DoYouHas Trfel (1): NocturneMage Fidei86(1): Rels Not Voting (6): disformation, Fecalfeast, Trfel, Fidei86, The Shining, LightningStrike Currently disformation is set to be lynched. This Day ends at Tuesday, Dec 08 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Lynch Voting is done in the voting thread (here). Do not PM me your vote. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. | ||
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disformation
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On December 08 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh they are towards the end of the filter except I starting to rethink about my scum read on DYH. Like his responses to questioning I was trying to see where he's at outside of HTS although it wasn't really well explained but it's better than nothing I guess. Moved DYH to null. Ah, did miss you restating them by quoting in #1362... tough that was still on page 7/9, which is not exactly towards the end of your filter. =p So with DYH at null you currently don't have a scum read? But two null reads in Fidei86 and DYH? | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 08 2015 06:11 NocturneMage wrote: Rels to answer your question on LS - I have read from the point of my main exchange with him, pges 7-9 of his filter can be summarised (1) inflating the filter with useless comments (not even part of alignment determining conversation or even afk comments) (2) parroting (examples post 1635) (3) 1450 to 1478 is an example of asking for information and not really doing anything of it This is insane for me. The NKs exonerate LS, but at the same time it is mindboggling this guy is doing dick all and people are ignoring him. His filter is 1000% mafia. Something isn't right. NK WIFOM is super dangerous. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On December 08 2015 07:17 disformation wrote: Ah, did miss you restating them by quoting in #1362... tough that was still on page 7/9, which is not exactly towards the end of your filter. =p So with DYH at null you currently don't have a scum read? But two null reads in Fidei86 and DYH? Pretty much. granted I was doing stuff today so :\ | ||
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