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On December 04 2015 23:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 23:24 disformation wrote:On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM. The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town. actually: can you explain that to me? i dont understand it? Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 23:26 NocturneMage wrote:On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM. The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town. No. I thought this at first but I have a reasonable argument against this. I realise it is pre flip association but this becomes more critical once Dani flips. I think you're both wrong. fidei, there is nothing to explain really; rsoultin and HTS both said that LS has a super hard time lying. Knowing this, it's super unlikely the "mod confirm" thing is WIFOM.
Rels that is just dumb. His "lie" was to say "I'm town". If you can't do that as Mafia then ... And actually I would say your analysis is EVEN MORE likely to make him Mafia. It's easy to lie and say you're Mafia, but it's hard to lie on reads you don't believe in. LS has no reads. That's what I'm saying.
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BTW Rels every game for now on that I play with you I will jsut ask 1 question in french as a sign of love;)
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On December 04 2015 23:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels:
Que pensez-vous de NM et James à ce moment?
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idk why google translate put en instead of à for what I was trying to ask you 
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I am utterly convinced that LS is Mafia. I am willing to accept that Dani is Mafia, although if she flips town we lynch Alex (possibly before LS).
But I will have time this weekend to read some of the outliers (dis might lynch me if I don't at least read DYH again).
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(By willing to accept, I mean that I thought she was scummy and Alex came in and said similar, and would never say if he wasn't either sure or Mafia. Just for you nit pickers.)
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Trfel thinks LS could have shoot Damdred:
On December 04 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:
I'll check his filter later. I guess LightningStrike also counts as a "lower activity / under the radar" player ever since the deadline, and I could see him shooting Damdred.
Damdred thought that of LS:
On December 03 2015 08:08 Damdred wrote:
LS has basically mod confirmed himself as town.
That's pretty shitty but we have to work with it I guess.
On December 03 2015 08:15 Damdred wrote:
Either way its nto worth talking about its over my opinon was hes basically confirmed himself town.
Oh well
Trfel does not think NM could have shot Damdred:
On December 04 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:
I looked through Damdred's filter, and I didn't see any scum reads.
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Thus, the only really noteworthy read in Damdred's filter is his not wanting to lynch NocturneMage (not exactly sure if it was a townread or a not wanting to lynch read, but it's the same for this purpose). If NocturneMage is mafia, there's no way he shoots Damdred here.
Damdred thought about LS:
On December 04 2015 06:04 Damdred wrote:
Its pretty obvious no matter what I say that your conclusion I'm mafia gor bad reasons are going to stick.
And you really haven't moosey hasn't done anything this game and is 100% a coin flip, nm will be more readable. But your case is founded on bad meta basically.
On December 04 2015 06:04 Damdred wrote:
I'm not saying that slot can't be scum but I don't think its as lock as you portray it.
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On December 04 2015 23:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels:
Que pensez-vous de NM et James en ce moment?
fidei is super likely town.
NM I have a super hard time seeing him attacking HTS heads on if he's not town. But his tone is super not analytical, which is super suspicious to me.
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On December 04 2015 23:41 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 23:37 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 23:24 disformation wrote:On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM. The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town. actually: can you explain that to me? i dont understand it? On December 04 2015 23:26 NocturneMage wrote:On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM. The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town. No. I thought this at first but I have a reasonable argument against this. I realise it is pre flip association but this becomes more critical once Dani flips. I think you're both wrong. fidei, there is nothing to explain really; rsoultin and HTS both said that LS has a super hard time lying. Knowing this, it's super unlikely the "mod confirm" thing is WIFOM. Rels that is just dumb. His "lie" was to say "I'm town". If you can't do that as Mafia then ... And actually I would say your analysis is EVEN MORE likely to make him Mafia. It's easy to lie and say you're Mafia, but it's hard to lie on reads you don't believe in. LS has no reads. That's what I'm saying.
Well I think it makes him confirmed town.
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On December 04 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:idk why google translate put en instead of à for what I was trying to ask you
Maybe because "en" is the correct word in this case ? =D
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On December 04 2015 09:03 DoYouHas wrote:
BTW, this is the second time everyone ends up agreeing with me and I'm still on most of the scumlists. -_-
This is not true and this is not a townie thought.
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On December 04 2015 09:13 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:07 Trfel wrote:On December 04 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
I also don't like Trfels turning around on this either.
What the hell are we using WIFOM arguments for? Because they're really darn accurate. Night kill analysis is amazing. @Fecalfeast, why else would Damdred be killed? The NocturneMage read seems to be by far the most likely. And that wasn't the only reason that I mentioned that the night kill makes me want to lynch NocturneMage less. It could be as simple as Damdred is a solid town player, and was read as town by the majority of the players. He clearly had influence as evidenced by the LS wagon. That is enough to make him a good kill. His reads are worth more now that we know for sure he was town, and should be considered carefully, but there is plenty to make him a good nightkill beyond his reads. (Sorry, I know you wanted FF to answer)
"I know what I'm doing is wrong but I'm doing it anyway. Look how I'm participating"
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BTW James I did say some of my treads throughout my filter but here is a list if you really need one -_-
Town:
Palmar: Meta says town for him here with his push on Shining look exactly like he did to me in Metal Mini
FF: Lazy FF is normally town FF from what I remember but I want him to do more work
Rels: He actually put out some cases mainly his case on FYH seems to stick out to me a little and when he was scum I don't remember him casing multiple people O_o
Shining: His responses and his questioning seem like Town Shining this game.
Tfrel: He did try to case people yes but he done it as scum but he seem much more serious tone here but I should prob check the scum game that some of you guys said this similar to his play there.
NM: He went super tryhard right out of the gates but my only issue with him like Rels said is that he not as analyical as I remember him being.
Null:
HTS: Some of her content seems questionable but she not feeling exactly well either but I willing to give her another day for now to have her feel better and post again.
James: It might be a long time but I don't think I ever seen james get so tunneled on me ever O_o But his content is okay.
Scum:
DYH His read progression is very weird like it doesn't feel natural. Plus some of stuff seems like it adds little value.
If I missing anyone let me know.
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On December 04 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:idk why google translate put en instead of à for what I was trying to ask you Maybe because "en" is the correct word in this case ? =D
I thought en means in not at O_o
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On December 05 2015 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:On December 04 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:idk why google translate put en instead of à for what I was trying to ask you Maybe because "en" is the correct word in this case ? =D I thought en means in not at O_o
Little tip LS. Talking about OG stuff like this as town just craps up the thread. Doing it as Mafia makes you look evasive. Whatever your alignment, please stop it.
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On PC now.
On December 05 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:BTW James I did say some of my treads throughout my filter but here is a list if you really need one -_- Town: Palmar: Meta says town for him here with his push on Shining look exactly like he did to me in Metal Mini FF: Lazy FF is normally town FF from what I remember but I want him to do more work Rels: He actually put out some cases mainly his case on FYH seems to stick out to me a little and when he was scum I don't remember him casing multiple people O_o Shining: His responses and his questioning seem like Town Shining this game. Tfrel: He did try to case people yes but he done it as scum but he seem much more serious tone here but I should prob check the scum game that some of you guys said this similar to his play there. NM: He went super tryhard right out of the gates but my only issue with him like Rels said is that he not as analyical as I remember him being. Null: HTS: Some of her content seems questionable but she not feeling exactly well either but I willing to give her another day for now to have her feel better and post again. James: It might be a long time but I don't think I ever seen james get so tunneled on me ever O_o But his content is okay. Scum: DYH His read progression is very weird like it doesn't feel natural. Plus some of stuff seems like it adds little value. If I missing anyone let me know.
Nah, you totally got everyone. *wink wink* *nudge nudge* 
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On December 05 2015 00:14 disformation wrote:On PC now. Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:BTW James I did say some of my treads throughout my filter but here is a list if you really need one -_- Town: Palmar: Meta says town for him here with his push on Shining look exactly like he did to me in Metal Mini FF: Lazy FF is normally town FF from what I remember but I want him to do more work Rels: He actually put out some cases mainly his case on FYH seems to stick out to me a little and when he was scum I don't remember him casing multiple people O_o Shining: His responses and his questioning seem like Town Shining this game. Tfrel: He did try to case people yes but he done it as scum but he seem much more serious tone here but I should prob check the scum game that some of you guys said this similar to his play there. NM: He went super tryhard right out of the gates but my only issue with him like Rels said is that he not as analyical as I remember him being. Null: HTS: Some of her content seems questionable but she not feeling exactly well either but I willing to give her another day for now to have her feel better and post again. James: It might be a long time but I don't think I ever seen james get so tunneled on me ever O_o But his content is okay. Scum: DYH His read progression is very weird like it doesn't feel natural. Plus some of stuff seems like it adds little value. If I missing anyone let me know. Nah, you totally got everyone. *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
Shit I forgot you
Well you're town though you did contribute a good amount and tried to bring people's content to the spotlight when no one was willing to.
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So LS, your scum team is me, DYH and Dani. Except scumming DYH is easy because he has been a low volume poster, scumming Dani is easy because Alex, and scumming me is easy because of OMGUS? All of your reasons for town reading people are "they are towny", or a call back to a past game.
This is a really poorly thought through list that shows no conviction and no intention to solve. LS is Mafia.
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There was quite a bit of discussion regarding DYH bussing HTS - he has voted her. I would analyse how he approached the discussion prior to him voting her.
I had to prompt him to actually vote her, that is about the only thing that I can call into question how much he believed in voting her.
Tbf I saw his shit right as I replaced in. His arguments were similar if not identical to mine, mine were based more on out of game information and some meta/prior game understanding of her.
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Do I need to die for your sins james?
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