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On December 02 2015 01:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:23 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Any idea on what could be scum ? I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me..... His "stuff about you" was a trap that he didn't believe in. I don't think Trfel has posted a read on you. Does knowing that make you re evaluate ? Hmm maybe but I remember him attacking Geript in Student V for imposing a limit of how many posts he would make per phase and e was scum there so(shrugs). Why do you think that my attack on geript in that game is relevant to my alignment this game?
Sorry, I just really don't see the connection.
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On December 02 2015 01:36 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:32 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:27 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 18:50 Rels wrote:On December 01 2015 18:44 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:On December 01 2015 18:16 Trfel wrote:
I kind of want to lynch The Shining, but that seems like a very bad idea right now. He's put in a bunch of effort (regardless of alignment) on a busy day for him. Most of the problems that I have with his posts are wording, tone, and a bit of consistency, which aren't the most reliable. I do feel that his posting somewhat fits mafia motivation, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to be happy lynching him now. I feel that The Shining's alignment will become very clear with a bit more time. 1 - this is sooooo non commital. 2 - we're right on the period Shining has no internet. So I have no idea what additionnal info you will have when he AFK for 24 hours. What part of the "not lynching The Shining" part did you miss? I thought I read "I kind of want to lynch The Shining" somewhere in that post. This part about Shining reads to me as "I'm OK lynching Shining but I'll need someone to convince me." Under normal circumstances, I'd be suspicious of The Shining here and would be maybe willing to lynch him Day 1. However, since The Shining probably won't be able to play much today, and wasn't 100% there yesterday, I think that giving him a Day 1 pass is probably best. Sorry that wasn't clear in my initial posts.
Is anyone else kind of suspicious of Rels? The way that he has been throwing suspicions at everyone feels like he's trying to keep his options open to lynch anyone he chooses. I don't recall him posting a single townread (which isn't that important), but the way he's been pressuring so many people without follow through or without a serious push seem so strange. The vote on DoYouHas feels extremely opportunistic, as well. I was really hoping that DoYouHas wouldn't be brought up for a while, I wanted to see what he did if he wasn't bothered. I remember checking the exact same thing that Rels mentioned earlier, and I'm not entirely on board, but I'll let DoYouHas speak for himself. Yep I'm suspicious of too many people. I would lynch Damdred or DYH right now; fidei is weird; HTS' post on LS makes a lot of sense. Onegu and kush are useless. You know, I take back my suspicion. Under normal circumstances it would be valid, but given the circumstances I'm kind of in the same place. The big thing is the lack of follow through, then, and that's very subjective; I'll look again later. By saying that Half the Sky's post on LightningStrike makes sense, are you saying that you think that LightningStrike is scum, or Half the Sky is town, or both?
Both.
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On December 02 2015 01:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:23 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Any idea on what could be scum ? I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me..... His "stuff about you" was a trap that he didn't believe in. I don't think Trfel has posted a read on you. Does knowing that make you re evaluate ? Hmm maybe but I remember him attacking Geript in Student V for imposing a limit of how many posts he would make per phase and e was scum there so(shrugs). Why do you think that my attack on geript in that game is relevant to my alignment this game? Sorry, I just really don't see the connection.
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On December 02 2015 01:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:23 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Any idea on what could be scum ? I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me..... His "stuff about you" was a trap that he didn't believe in. I don't think Trfel has posted a read on you. Does knowing that make you re evaluate ? Hmm maybe but I remember him attacking Geript in Student V for imposing a limit of how many posts he would make per phase and e was scum there so(shrugs). Why do you think that my attack on geript in that game is relevant to my alignment this game? Sorry, I just really don't see the connection.
Because it seemed like similar manner on what you did to me this game..... Anyways you got any scum reads so far?
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Voting DoYouHas atm for these:
On December 01 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:47 DoYouHas wrote:On December 01 2015 08:37 Rels wrote:
Yo.
If you're boxer you fucking shut up. There is two possible mafia setups: one with two possible town setups with one boxer each so it doesn't matter. And one when we have either boxer + vet, or cop + vig. In that last case, mafia wants to roleblock their kill target in the vet setup, or roleblock someone else on the cop + vig setup.
Boxer claiming would make them know what is the thing to do.
Tldr if you're boxer you shut up unless you're getting lynched.
Tldr 2 the two people pushing for boxer to claim are suspicious. Damdred and doyouhas You don't make sense. Mafia get to know the setup info right? That's how I remember this kind of game working. Even if they don't, you are so afraid of gaming the rb that you would throw away a confirmed townie and better lynch choices? I don't understand why you would affirm something like that without checking it first. This looks like you are dumbtelling.
On December 01 2015 22:22 Rels wrote:I don't like that progression from DoYouHas. Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:57 DoYouHas wrote:On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it? Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later. Interesting... Okay, what the heck. First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it. Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment? I assumed your post was a bit of a joke. Reconsidering with how fast you jumped on the defensive here. "Trfel you might be scum." 2 posts later: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:57 Damdred wrote:
You are an idiot but you are most likely town.
If you can't explain in a coherent way why I am mafia then obviously I am not. Damdred: "Trfel is most likely town." 1 post later: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm pretty happy with Damdred atm. With the exception of one point in his first post I feel like I've got the mind meld going with him... for now.
TLDR: you crazy trfel "Trfel you're crazy." So Trfel is considered town here. It doesn't add up. ##Vote DoYouHas
See you tonight (=
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Washing machine running. Here we go:
On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment
Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe.
If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. 
That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17...
Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD
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Side note, I'd really appreciate it if Damdred and MoosyDoosy would elaborate on their unspecified townreads.
I don't have many town reads this game at all, and I'm wondering why we see things so differently. It could very well be that I'm being stupid, in which case I'd like to why, so I can be a little less stupid.
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On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD
Don't dare being scum with this chatty tone. That would break my heart
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On December 02 2015 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:37 Trfel wrote:On December 02 2015 01:36 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 01:23 Rels wrote:On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Any idea on what could be scum ? I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me..... His "stuff about you" was a trap that he didn't believe in. I don't think Trfel has posted a read on you. Does knowing that make you re evaluate ? Hmm maybe but I remember him attacking Geript in Student V for imposing a limit of how many posts he would make per phase and e was scum there so(shrugs). Why do you think that my attack on geript in that game is relevant to my alignment this game? Sorry, I just really don't see the connection. Because it seemed like similar manner on what you did to me this game..... Anyways you got any scum reads so far? Here you go.
I don't have time to dive into anything in depth, so I'm talking to the people who are here.
LightningStrike, why didn't you respond to this post?
I must say that pending an answer to the above question, I kind of think that LightningStrike is town.
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On December 02 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD Don't dare being scum with this chatty tone. That would break my heart
I get the feeling that RNGesus is heavily biased against me rolling scum... but that just means I have to make the longest town win streak ever happen. 
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Man I remember why I quit now, people are dumb and I just want to bm them to the ground.
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Ok so,
I'm pretty sure rels is dumbtown doing that stupid tunnel thing he likes to do that Tina told him is bad. *glares*
shining is town
think fid is town
I'm town hood town circle for me. Though lots of dumb dumb in game so far.
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On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD
I wasn't in the game at that point remember young one. Plus he was trying to hard defend a partner so bit different he just comes out of gate attacking.
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I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia.
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On December 02 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD I wasn't in the game at that point remember young one. Plus he was trying to hard defend a partner so bit different he just comes out of gate attacking.
Ah crap you replaced into that game D2... right. Well, the defending part came on later, but so did the actual omgus parts onto geript. Took a look at Trfel's filter from that game again and at first he was trying to ignore geript until around when that defending part happened. So okay, there is a difference. Still, wouldn't completely want to completely rule out a possible OMGUS by scum!Trfel since, that doesn't seem to be outside his range, but I can agree on that being rather unlikely especially this early D1.
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On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia.
this is bad and you should know why
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On December 02 2015 02:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD I wasn't in the game at that point remember young one. Plus he was trying to hard defend a partner so bit different he just comes out of gate attacking. Ah crap you replaced into that game D2... right. Well, the defending part came on later, but so did the actual omgus parts onto geript. Took a look at Trfel's filter from that game again and at first he was trying to ignore geript until around when that defending part happened. So okay, there is a difference. Still, wouldn't completely want to completely rule out a possible OMGUS by scum!Trfel since, that doesn't seem to be outside his range, but I can agree on that being rather unlikely especially this early D1.
exactly it still is really weak but when you are trying to seperste people into pools and gain perspective sometimes weak and bad are ok.
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On December 02 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. this is bad and you should know why I think it's great. Please explain?
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On December 01 2015 16:42 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:49 disformation wrote:On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it? Tired as hell. When I first read it I was like kinda amused by the hero thing, triggering my immediate reaction (the first post). Then I read it again and thought that it was a kinda unusual thing for Damdred to post and remembered that I was criticized for a very similar thing (over constructed first post shortly after the start of the game) in my first game here. So I asked him the same question I was asked. The advise itself is probably valid though. Wait a second, disformation... You've only rolled town on TL, correct? So if you were town and someone questioned you for a "constructed" post, then why would you ask someone else about this? What did you hope to get out of your question? Based on Damdred's answers, do you have a conclusion now?
Yes, only rolled town. I have my previous games included in my profile, if you are interested.
Okay, should have mentioned that: my entry post from my first game _was_ planned before the game. I got called out on that, admitted that it was canned and the post got threat as NAI. So I was asking myself if this was a similar case.
But kinda more importantly: I have played with town!Damdred twice now, shadowed town!Damdred once or twice and shadowed town!HtS in a game where Damdred was scum and I don't remember a big constructed Damdred post in any of those games. So I went "wait wat?" after looking at it more carefully.
Conclusion regarding the entry post or on Damdred overall?
Well, I believe him when he says his entry post was written after game start and as such is not NAI by default. As stated before I think the advise is solid. That post is not incredibly hard for mafia to make either, though.
I was also still a bit confused about his early read flip on you, but Damdred managed to explain that to me just now.
So overall his game is starting to look more like the town!Damdred I am used to. Ah, while I mentioned that one scum game I saw him play: he was way more pushy/aggressive than this game. Though frustrated/annoyed town!Damdred would be a new one for me, too. xD
So overall conclusion? Hm.. town lean. Need to look at your case on him again though.
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Off to class for a while.
Town lean on disformation. Would really appreciate answers from LightningStrike and Damdred, questions asked previously.
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