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On December 02 2015 04:19 Half the Sky wrote:Also post 349: Show nested quote +Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Alright, so in spite of your meta read on Shining and your fear read from earlier, you still think his content is better this game rather than last. What game was this, and how long ago and how are you so sure that his scum game hasn't improved given what you've said with the emotions?
Drams whichwas like maybe a month or two ago O_o
Just instincts plus his content was much better this game.
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Regarding Rels, I recall him being nitpicky from his town games but nothing about the nitpicking jumps out as scumlike. Trfel why do you think he's being opportunistic with DYH? (It was based off a read progression and not activity.)
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On December 02 2015 04:27 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 04:19 Half the Sky wrote:Also post 349: Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Alright, so in spite of your meta read on Shining and your fear read from earlier, you still think his content is better this game rather than last. What game was this, and how long ago and how are you so sure that his scum game hasn't improved given what you've said with the emotions? Drams whichwas like maybe a month or two ago O_o Just instincts plus his content was much better this game.
*facepalm* duh, I'm an idiot. I completely forgot about Drams. Super lurky in that game.
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On December 02 2015 04:31 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 04:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 04:19 Half the Sky wrote:Also post 349: Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. Alright, so in spite of your meta read on Shining and your fear read from earlier, you still think his content is better this game rather than last. What game was this, and how long ago and how are you so sure that his scum game hasn't improved given what you've said with the emotions? Drams whichwas like maybe a month or two ago O_o Just instincts plus his content was much better this game. *facepalm* duh, I'm an idiot. I completely forgot about Drams. Super lurky in that game.
You were host of that game you silly goofball 
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On December 02 2015 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I here now and Tfrel I did answer HTS just not directly quoted. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Looking at 346/349 -
LS, I'm not referring to meta. Let's make sure I'm not misunderstanding you here.
I'm not talking about Palmar's tone in general. I'm talking about his case. If you read the context differently, then tell me how you interpreted that.
You are saying that he's town because his tone is serious and from 349 it's based on meta. Okay fine, but regardless of meta, why would Palmar's case NOT be serious? What I'm trying to say here is that you are townreading him for a poor reason. I didn't say it wasn't serious? Anyways the way he argued Shining like I said had a serious tone plus like said he did a very similar thing to me in Metal Mini when I was fighting him and felt frustrated with him. It took me a bit of arguing to get him to townread me in that game because I was still a newbie lol.... So it a little both but more towards personal experience with him.
Argh, no. I am saying that you said his tone is serious. In any case, you want to say you are giving a personal read towards him.
Alright, I still think this is a bad read because like I said before Palmar really can't be done off one read, but now that I've fleshed it out I don't think you are mafia for this. Still need to read the rest of your filter in conjunction with Trfel/Damdred when I return though.
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Yes, LS, I know but to be quite honest, when I think of Drams, I think of that game for all of the fighting that went down that game of which he wasn't a part of. Don't want to be a dead horse on that, but that's that.
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Almost forgot - voting DYH at this time. I should be back in a few hours I think.
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DYH, if you return, any updates on anyone would be grand.
Onegu, same.
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On December 02 2015 04:11 Damdred wrote:
Kush is kush. He's a bit more lurky as scum but more cocky as town.
His meta is easily interchangeable though...
disfor are you my town buddy this game?
That stuff on kush doesn't help me much, to be honest. xD
Still feeling okay with where my vote is currently at though.
Hm. I have a town lean on you and my pm says I am pretty damn town, too... so that could work. 
That being said I am currently not 100% on you. There is a certain thing you like to do as town and I very much like to townread you for it. It has been there a bit this game, but not to the extend that I would be comfortable giving you a full town read for, yet.
Alsooo this question is kinda strange and a bit out of the blue? Is this a reaction test to see whether I should be part of your town hood circle thing? Cause it is pretty much an obvious buddying attempt? So slightly confused here. xD
So I am not saying it won't happen, but I feel we both have to work a bit more to get this kind of relationship happening. 
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So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
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On December 02 2015 00:24 Half the Sky wrote:
disformation, can you read into what Shining posted after your initial scumread of him? Do you still believe that is scum indicative? OMGUS I have seen coming from both alignments, so same question to you that I have for kushm4sta, can you tie in the hard self-defence with anything else? Is it just the hard self-defence or is it his subsequent statements to Palmar that you see as problematic?
Also I can't see where you are trying to go with Damdred v Trfel either, but that was the last post you made before going to bed.
Tried to follow up onto the Trfel/Damdred earlier, hope that did help you.
Now looking at The Shining's filter for his posts after my read on him.
At first he still only talks about Palmar untill he decides that Palmar pissed him off enough to ignore him. I think his tone is pretty town in the later part of this exchange.
After that he proceeds to do a bit of stuff, which I generally like. But a few things leave a bit of an aftertaste. The townlean he gives you for pointing out something in Fidei86's post he also disliked feels a bit "easy" and in his later read post he has this to say about me:
On December 01 2015 10:00 The Shining wrote:
Disfo's early responses to Trfel were relaxed and his posts seem to be natural so he's a slight townlean. He also seems to be fleshing out his suspects before he scumreads them(saying he isn't a fan of me so far, I had better posts last game but not scumreading me. Asking Damdred to explain his read on Trfel) so it looks like he wants to get good reads, not just jump on easy suspicions.
If you look closely at the second part... isn't that basically the same as not reaching a conclusion and keeping your options open? xD
Normally I get scumread for stuff like this. xD
But then we were both town last game, so maybe he has lowered standards when it comes to me and conclusions. On the other hand he could also try to alleviate my suspicions on him by giving me a town lean?
Then he proceeds to fight with Palmar some more. Even coming back from being afk a few times.
So I am still not a fan. I think his tone is rather town, but I really want him to do some more stuff other than fighting Palmar, since the other stuff he has done so far doesn't rock my world.
That being said I wasn't a huge fan of his D1 last game either, but slowly started to like him starting the second part of D2. So while I wouldn't call him town, I also don't want to lynch him atm, since I feel he will be easier to figure out if he gets a bit of time to post some more. Plus I like where my vote is atm more than I would like voting The Shining.
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Short break. DYH filter next.
Then probably going to look into James, Dani and Rels unless I get distracted by some new posts.
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This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today.
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Ah nearly forgot to mention: The Shining was asking DYI about:
On December 01 2015 09:49 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm pretty happy with Damdred atm. With the exception of one point in his first post I feel like I've got the mind meld going with him... for now.
TLDR: you crazy trfel What was the one point in Damded's first point you didn't agree with? Do you have any other reads outside of Damdred?
So I am looking forward to finding out whether DYH answered that.
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Like if he's mafia, he either would have argued, or made up an excuse and left. Because he is town, he wanted to leave but was drawn back to the thread repeatedly just to see which stupid shit I was saying at that time.
I think this is legit. Let's not kill him.
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On December 02 2015 06:07 disformation wrote:Short break. DYH filter next. Then probably going to look into James, Dani and Rels unless I get distracted by some new posts.
Also, screw this shit, call them Fidei and HtS. I really cba with multiple naming standards.
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Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible?
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I don't know how to play this game with Damdred. He's not scumreading me, that I can tell, but he's absolutely refusing to work with me.
The sad thing is that I think Damdred is capable of doing this as town. However, he was actually quite reasonable with me last game, where I was playing extremely obnoxiously. I don't know why he would be willing to work with me there and not here if he's town.
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On December 02 2015 06:12 Palmar wrote:
Like if he's mafia, he either would have argued, or made up an excuse and left. Because he is town, he wanted to leave but was drawn back to the thread repeatedly just to see which stupid shit I was saying at that time.
I think this is legit. Let's not kill him.
Huh... kinda makes sense, but I'd still prefer for him to do some scum hunting. :p
On December 02 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:07 disformation wrote:Short break. DYH filter next. Then probably going to look into James, Dani and Rels unless I get distracted by some new posts. Also, screw this shit, call them Fidei and HtS. I really cba with multiple naming standards.
Fair enough, will stop it.
On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible?
Well, if you throw votes at him he might try to martyr or get modkilled. He voted himself D1 last game, when he was scumread for throwing about a few controversial reads, but couldn't be arsed to explain them. He also was the Vigilante. So in short: nope. 
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Also, Half the Sky, about the potential "TMI" thing with kushm4sta...
It's not possibly TMI. The mafia team cannot know if there is a vigilante in the setup or not at this time.
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