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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 18:30 GMT
#20
On November 19 2015 02:49 Half the Sky wrote:
There are no coaches allowed here but I think you are ready for such a game.
100%.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 23 2015 21:07 GMT
#42
Assuming this doesn't start until after the holiday is over, I think I'll give it a try.

/in
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 25 2015 02:52 GMT
#45
On November 25 2015 06:58 Rels wrote:
FUCK I WANNA PLAY
I know, right?

We'd better both be town for once... Otherwise I will be furious.

Okay, at least just me town.

Two scum games in a row would just not work for me.

But I can't really play until after the holiday anyway so.... I guess I kind of hope this doesn't fill up too quickly....
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 29 2015 22:26 GMT
#109
Just start the game, if necessary I can play two slots.

says the guy who has no time and won't be here for the start of the game...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 17:57 GMT
#129
Pre-game excuse:

This is a pre-game excuse.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:04 GMT
#147

Trumpets!

The rest of the orchestra doesn't matter one bit

but they messed up at about 1:14

Also, Blazinghand making us lose 4 minutes of our Day 1, worst host ever
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:07 GMT
#150
Hm, listening to the whole video, the trumpet players mess up a ton Like, a TON....

I should have been in that band, I can do better than that!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:09 GMT
#151
Sorry about that disformation, I guess I just assumed that America was the most strict with regards to Youtube video rights.

It was the first video for "Festive Overture" that came up, and it was a pretty lousy one, anyway. No loss.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:10 GMT
#153
On December 01 2015 08:09 The Shining wrote:
Why would you post it before listening to it? D=
I didn't have enough time to listen to it, I was busy doing other things.

I generally listen to the song through iTunes, I'd much rather link a Youtube video than upload the song. Strangely enough, the recording that I normally listen to also has a few errors from the trumpet section.

I wonder how long it will take me to find an error-free trumpet section playing the song...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:19 GMT
#158
##vote MoosyDoosy
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:35 GMT
#164
Let the power roles play their own roles. Games are only won/lost by power roles due to failures in other parts of the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:44 GMT
#173
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:50 GMT
#179
On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?


Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.

Interesting...
Okay, what the heck.

First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it.

Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 30 2015 23:56 GMT
#181
On December 01 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:
On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?


Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.

Interesting...
Okay, what the heck.

First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it.

Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment?


I do know what you are trying to do, and if you are fishing you might want to try a different type of bait.

Secondly could be you don't care about reading the thread, and just trying to find someone to put suspicions on.
I think that Damdred is a very likely mafia.

Someone please tell me if I am sane or not.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 00:16 GMT
#197
Damdred

I need to go do some stuff, so I should explain this now instead of hoping someone else sees it.

Required knowledge:
On December 01 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
oh another pre game excuse: I wont be here until like 4 hours after game start due to college class into going out to eat with my parents :o

44 minutes after the start of the game (by deadline time, not actual start, thanks Blazinghand), I posted this:
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Damdred questioned me (Trfel) with this post:
On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?


Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.

Interesting...
I pressured him, and he responded here:
On December 01 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:
On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?


Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.

Interesting...
Okay, what the heck.

First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it.

Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment?


I do know what you are trying to do, and if you are fishing you might want to try a different type of bait.

Secondly could be you don't care about reading the thread, and just trying to find someone to put suspicions on.
The key phrases are in bold.

Basically, Damdred initially was suspicious of me (Trfel) for not reading the thread and trying to find someone to be suspicious of. And in his initial post with these suspicious, he specifically stated that these suspicions of me are only valid because of LightningStrike's pre-game excuse.

LightningStrike's pre-game excuse has no implication on my alignment whatsoever. Damdred is basically saying that because my suspicion of LightningStrike was invalid, I was suspicious. However, why would I as mafia make a post about a player's inactivity when that player said, before the game, that they wouldn't be around at the start of the game? There is zero reason for mafia to do this.

The only thing that LightningStrike's pre-game excuse says about my play is that my reason to be suspicious of LightningStrike was invalid. First, it was invalid without the pre-game excuse as well. And second, my argument being invalid doesn't have any relevance on my alignment. As does reading posts in the thread that were made before the game started.

Damdred failed to address the main question that I asked, which was why LightningStrike's pre-game excuse affects my alignment. His suspicion of me made zero sense, and Damdred is a very sensible player as town.

Combine this with his entrance post, completely ignoring everyone else in the thread and saying that his play would follow his (rough) scum meta of fewer posts more focused on analysis.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 01:07 GMT
#236
Life is so frustrating

My communication skills appear to be miserable.

I'll try to reread the thread later tonight.

Damdred, apologies for using that type of read. Regardless of whether or not I am right, that creates stupid arguments and makes the game miserable. Thanks for being a bit more sensible than I am (regardless of alignment).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 01:11 GMT
#241
On December 01 2015 10:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Basically, Damdred initially was suspicious of me (Trfel) for not reading the thread and trying to find someone to be suspicious of. And in his initial post with these suspicious, he specifically stated that these suspicions of me are only valid because of LightningStrike's pre-game excuse.

LightningStrike's pre-game excuse has no implication on my alignment whatsoever. Damdred is basically saying that because my suspicion of LightningStrike was invalid, I was suspicious. However, why would I as mafia make a post about a player's inactivity when that player said, before the game, that they wouldn't be around at the start of the game? There is zero reason for mafia to do this.

The only thing that LightningStrike's pre-game excuse says about my play is that my reason to be suspicious of LightningStrike was invalid. First, it was invalid without the pre-game excuse as well. And second, my argument being invalid doesn't have any relevance on my alignment. As does reading posts in the thread that were made before the game started.

Damdred failed to address the main question that I asked, which was why LightningStrike's pre-game excuse affects my alignment. His suspicion of me made zero sense, and Damdred is a very sensible player as town.

Combine this with his entrance post, completely ignoring everyone else in the thread and saying that his play would follow his (rough) scum meta of fewer posts more focused on analysis.


Backtracking to this post. No issues with the first part, but I'm not sure why he thinks it's unreasonable as town when you are clearly focused on one person that much that of course you will miss the flying conversation in the thread. Especially more suspicious to me if this isn't his scum meta, and honestly given my poor track record of sniping mafia Damdred, I'm not sure what/how to really measure this. It looks like a reach for me.
Not sure exactly what you're getting at here, but the final two lines of the post you quoted were purely aimed at Damdred's first post of the game, and not the rest of his play. I may be misreading/misunderstanding, sorry if you realized that already.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 07:42 GMT
#286
On December 01 2015 08:49 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.

Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?


Tired as hell.
When I first read it I was like kinda amused by the hero thing, triggering my immediate reaction (the first post). Then I read it again and thought that it was a kinda unusual thing for Damdred to post and remembered that I was criticized for a very similar thing (over constructed first post shortly after the start of the game) in my first game here. So I asked him the same question I was asked.

The advise itself is probably valid though.
Wait a second, disformation...

You've only rolled town on TL, correct? So if you were town and someone questioned you for a "constructed" post, then why would you ask someone else about this?

What did you hope to get out of your question? Based on Damdred's answers, do you have a conclusion now?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 09:00 GMT
#290
Hey Rels, let me know if you want to discuss anything when you're caught up. I really should go to bed but I'm stupid so whatever ^^
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 01 2015 09:07 GMT
#292
On December 01 2015 18:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 18:00 Trfel wrote:
Hey Rels, let me know if you want to discuss anything when you're caught up. I really should go to bed but I'm stupid so whatever ^^

Have you ever apologized as mafia before ?
I don't know? Self-meta is really stupid, especially because it means I'm aware of it. And what I'm aware of, I can try to mess with...

I mean, why are you asking, anyway? I'm the most obvious town in the game by a landslide, with my amazing play and crazy read abilities!
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