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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:15 GMT
#2201
On December 12 2015 02:10 Fidei86 wrote:
BTW if it's LS then I reserve the right to kick you all in the nuts. After I've kicked myself in the nuts.


Don't kick me in the nuts please. I very much wanted to lynch him as well last cycle.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:16 GMT
#2202
On December 12 2015 02:10 NocturneMage wrote:
Like I have looked at DYH's argument for pushing HTS. It was similar to mine with less meta.

Like if I look at a random player John Smith that might have pulled the same performance as HTS day 1 and end of cycle, I would say something of the sort that it could be someone honestly struggling to flesh out alignments. The lack of strong conclusions would make me worry and warrant a cop check. This is what I'd think.

But the end of cycle behaviour in all forms was mafia indicative. Like if I'm the least experienced player and can figure that shit out, I am pretty sure most players here can. The DYH argument doesn't strike me as odd. Or TMIish.

But the timing?

I pieced together what HTS might have done when she was at home sick. Tried to use OGI and really got nowhere. But there's no telling who she was in qt with, or when they voted.


ebwop - NOT end of cycle. the performance day 1 was less mafia indicative, but the end of cycle was very much mafia indicative.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 11 2015 17:18 GMT
#2203
On December 12 2015 02:12 NocturneMage wrote:
I disagree on the voting theory but whatever.

I have no problem taking a mislynch if people are so sure and thinking that I bussed Dani. I can readily understand why people are sceptical that I have a god tier read on her, and especially for those that don't know us well.

Does anyone know how good Rels is at mafia? I think he endgamed once?

I'll carry on reading filters.


random disformation town post. only played with town!rels . twice.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 11 2015 17:19 GMT
#2204
meant to say random disformation phone post...
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:22 GMT
#2205
@Alex Rels is god-tier mafia player. Probably one of the best on the site at the moment, or definitely the best in recent memory.

I really think Rels is the last mafia here. Partly it's my POE, on the grounds that I think it's probably someone who was on Trfel, and I don't want to kill Alex yet because the big bus he planned is a bit too yolo for me to believe in.

I just skimmed Rels' filter really quickly. It's not really indicative. But he barely says anything about FF really (at least not early on - I made it to page 7 before I ran out of steam). And his interactions with HTS I found really weird. He kept following on her posts with further comments. Or someone would be talking about her, and he'd be like "oh, well that's interesting, what do you think about other random townie". Also he got onto HTS totally randomly, having been wildly fluctuating around between DYH and Trfel.

I recognise that this isn't exactly the most artfully put case ever. And it sort of contradicts what I've said about Rels before. THe truth is, he has a 15 page filter but I don't think he's said that much that is particularly compelling.

The argument the other way is that Rels is super amazing at mafia and usually when he's mafia he's hyperactive. He is playing very differently this game, for sure. But the POE is strong.

##Vote:Rels

I have to go to my Xmas Christmas Party tomorrow. Then I will sleep for approx. 1,000 yrs tomorrow. But when I wake up I will be ready to either celebrate the victory, or else figure out which of you other bastards is actually mafia
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:24 GMT
#2206
Also if DYH was mafia I think he'd be piling on disfo, rather than switching randomly to Rels.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:24 GMT
#2207
you mean party tonight? enjoy yourself. I'm going out soon as well, so I will have a vote in but will be on mobile. hopefully we can wrap this up tonight.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:24 GMT
#2208
On December 12 2015 02:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Also if DYH was mafia I think he'd be piling on disfo, rather than switching randomly to Rels.


yeah this is a good point as well.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 11 2015 17:25 GMT
#2209
On December 12 2015 02:22 Fidei86 wrote:
@Alex Rels is god-tier mafia player. Probably one of the best on the site at the moment, or definitely the best in recent memory.

I really think Rels is the last mafia here. Partly it's my POE, on the grounds that I think it's probably someone who was on Trfel, and I don't want to kill Alex yet because the big bus he planned is a bit too yolo for me to believe in.

I just skimmed Rels' filter really quickly. It's not really indicative. But he barely says anything about FF really (at least not early on - I made it to page 7 before I ran out of steam). And his interactions with HTS I found really weird. He kept following on her posts with further comments. Or someone would be talking about her, and he'd be like "oh, well that's interesting, what do you think about other random townie". Also he got onto HTS totally randomly, having been wildly fluctuating around between DYH and Trfel.

I recognise that this isn't exactly the most artfully put case ever. And it sort of contradicts what I've said about Rels before. THe truth is, he has a 15 page filter but I don't think he's said that much that is particularly compelling.

The argument the other way is that Rels is super amazing at mafia and usually when he's mafia he's hyperactive. He is playing very differently this game, for sure. But the POE is strong.

##Vote:Rels

I have to go to my Xmas Christmas Party tomorrow. Then I will sleep for approx. 1,000 yrs tomorrow. But when I wake up I will be ready to either celebrate the victory, or else figure out which of you other bastards is actually mafia


arent you christmas partying all week already?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:27 GMT
#2210
On December 12 2015 02:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 02:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Also if DYH was mafia I think he'd be piling on disfo, rather than switching randomly to Rels.


yeah this is a good point as well.

Actually it's a shitty point. I just checked, and the only person on disfo was DYH. Who is now on Rels. So it's actually NAI, and could be just an attempt to find a better wagon.

But your sheep is noted.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:27 GMT
#2211
On December 12 2015 02:25 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 02:22 Fidei86 wrote:
@Alex Rels is god-tier mafia player. Probably one of the best on the site at the moment, or definitely the best in recent memory.

I really think Rels is the last mafia here. Partly it's my POE, on the grounds that I think it's probably someone who was on Trfel, and I don't want to kill Alex yet because the big bus he planned is a bit too yolo for me to believe in.

I just skimmed Rels' filter really quickly. It's not really indicative. But he barely says anything about FF really (at least not early on - I made it to page 7 before I ran out of steam). And his interactions with HTS I found really weird. He kept following on her posts with further comments. Or someone would be talking about her, and he'd be like "oh, well that's interesting, what do you think about other random townie". Also he got onto HTS totally randomly, having been wildly fluctuating around between DYH and Trfel.

I recognise that this isn't exactly the most artfully put case ever. And it sort of contradicts what I've said about Rels before. THe truth is, he has a 15 page filter but I don't think he's said that much that is particularly compelling.

The argument the other way is that Rels is super amazing at mafia and usually when he's mafia he's hyperactive. He is playing very differently this game, for sure. But the POE is strong.

##Vote:Rels

I have to go to my Xmas Christmas Party tomorrow. Then I will sleep for approx. 1,000 yrs tomorrow. But when I wake up I will be ready to either celebrate the victory, or else figure out which of you other bastards is actually mafia


arent you christmas partying all week already?

My poor liver. RIP.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:29 GMT
#2212
??????

I see what you are saying (not really piling on) but Shining seemed all out to vote for disformation. I also voted disformation very early on in the cycle (no strikethroughs???? check the voting thread, I know I voted disformation right on the day post)

Meh.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:30 GMT
#2213
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499392-dark-tournament-mini-mafia-voting-thread?page=5

I voted him first thing. I pulled my vote (page 6) after I saw Rels' first argument.

whatever.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:32 GMT
#2214
On December 12 2015 02:27 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 02:25 disformation wrote:
On December 12 2015 02:22 Fidei86 wrote:
@Alex Rels is god-tier mafia player. Probably one of the best on the site at the moment, or definitely the best in recent memory.

I really think Rels is the last mafia here. Partly it's my POE, on the grounds that I think it's probably someone who was on Trfel, and I don't want to kill Alex yet because the big bus he planned is a bit too yolo for me to believe in.

I just skimmed Rels' filter really quickly. It's not really indicative. But he barely says anything about FF really (at least not early on - I made it to page 7 before I ran out of steam). And his interactions with HTS I found really weird. He kept following on her posts with further comments. Or someone would be talking about her, and he'd be like "oh, well that's interesting, what do you think about other random townie". Also he got onto HTS totally randomly, having been wildly fluctuating around between DYH and Trfel.

I recognise that this isn't exactly the most artfully put case ever. And it sort of contradicts what I've said about Rels before. THe truth is, he has a 15 page filter but I don't think he's said that much that is particularly compelling.

The argument the other way is that Rels is super amazing at mafia and usually when he's mafia he's hyperactive. He is playing very differently this game, for sure. But the POE is strong.

##Vote:Rels

I have to go to my Xmas Christmas Party tomorrow. Then I will sleep for approx. 1,000 yrs tomorrow. But when I wake up I will be ready to either celebrate the victory, or else figure out which of you other bastards is actually mafia


arent you christmas partying all week already?

My poor liver. RIP.


More partying for us next week, but I think I'm probably going to suffer most when we head to the US for the holidays. One week of non-stop partying. Might not be a good thing for me.

anyhow, enjoy.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:35 GMT
#2215
On December 12 2015 02:30 NocturneMage wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499392-dark-tournament-mini-mafia-voting-thread?page=5

I voted him first thing. I pulled my vote (page 6) after I saw Rels' first argument.

whatever.

I meant this cycle. Or is the vote tally not up to date?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:36 GMT
#2216
I think I'm going to answer for myself whether his pushes on people were town or not. I know Rels was like fuck it or alright or whatever on HTS. It fits the picture of someone not influential (that cycle) to bus her as DYH and I were leading the lynch on Dani if that should be the case.

He was hard defending her for checking LS meta end of first cycle. I saw through that based on meta but I can see if someone were to say, she's probably town for that by mistake as a townie.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:37 GMT
#2217
On December 12 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 02:30 NocturneMage wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499392-dark-tournament-mini-mafia-voting-thread?page=5

I voted him first thing. I pulled my vote (page 6) after I saw Rels' first argument.

whatever.

I meant this cycle. Or is the vote tally not up to date?


It is up to date, however it does NOT account for my voting disformation and then unvoting him. That's why I felt your point on DYH "piling on" was a good one. I was already on him. Check the voting thread.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:39 GMT
#2218
On December 12 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 02:30 NocturneMage wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499392-dark-tournament-mini-mafia-voting-thread?page=5

I voted him first thing. I pulled my vote (page 6) after I saw Rels' first argument.

whatever.

I meant this cycle. Or is the vote tally not up to date?


On December 10 2015 08:09 NocturneMage wrote:
##vote disformation


On December 10 2015 13:19 DoYouHas wrote:
##Vote: Disformation


On December 11 2015 10:45 NocturneMage wrote:
##unvote


I'm not going insane, am I?

I'm sober now, I was drunk last night phase, but....
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 17:49 GMT
#2219
On December 01 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 18:16 Trfel wrote:
I kind of want to lynch The Shining, but that seems like a very bad idea right now. He's put in a bunch of effort (regardless of alignment) on a busy day for him. Most of the problems that I have with his posts are wording, tone, and a bit of consistency, which aren't the most reliable. I do feel that his posting somewhat fits mafia motivation, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to be happy lynching him now. I feel that The Shining's alignment will become very clear with a bit more time.

1 - this is sooooo non commital.
2 - we're right on the period Shining has no internet. So I have no idea what additionnal info you will have when he AFK for 24 hours.


Page 1 of filter

Is Rels trying to make something out of nothing? Trfel is already saying that lynching the Shining is a "very bad idea RIGHT NOW"

I want to say second question from Rels is asking this for the sake of asking.

Trfel has already commented on what has already been doing on Shining regardless of lack of internet, so that content should be up and fair game to evaluate.

I don't think this statement even needed to be made honestly, even Trfel said "more time" regardless of what the reason was for, he wasn't all on it either.

Mafia indicative. Moving on.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#2220
Well two people hardly makes a pile, particularly when DYH was one of them and the other had unvoted. But that's probably the highest I can state my point.

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