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On December 10 2015 08:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 08:27 disformation wrote:
So what is your plan for this day phase?
You seem to be pretty much the only one neither wanting to vote DYH nor me. Probably check everyone's filter and redo my reads. That will happen when I get home.
Alright, sounds like a plan.
Again, if you have any questions: just ask. 
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GG Trfel. I can't tell if scum didn't shoot me because I'm wrong on disfo and they want him mislynched, or because shooting me would've implicated disfo too much. Or Trfel confirmed himself town with the Fecal lynch and scum needed him gone for that.
Iirc Trfel was still entertaining the thought of NM scum...But he also hinted at being willing to vote disfo, as per that spoiler on one of his posts saying I probably saved him some reading. It could be a way to weaken the disfo wagon while leaving me alive to drown in wifom.
I'm phone posting so I'll do some rereads and make a decision when I get home. I'm iffy on disfos reaction to my case, too, it doesn't make me see him any better.
Hmmm.
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It has been a long ass day. I'm going to come back and actually read this tomorrow with non-exhausted eyes.
##Vote: Disfo
See you all tomorrow.
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On December 10 2015 09:41 The Shining wrote:
GG Trfel. I can't tell if scum didn't shoot me because I'm wrong on disfo and they want him mislynched, or because shooting me would've implicated disfo too much. Or Trfel confirmed himself town with the Fecal lynch and scum needed him gone for that.
Iirc Trfel was still entertaining the thought of NM scum...But he also hinted at being willing to vote disfo, as per that spoiler on one of his posts saying I probably saved him some reading. It could be a way to weaken the disfo wagon while leaving me alive to drown in wifom.
I'm phone posting so I'll do some rereads and make a decision when I get home. I'm iffy on disfos reaction to my case, too, it doesn't make me see him any better.
Hmmm.
Yep kill points at disfo / NM. But Palmar's kill pointed at Trfel / fidei, so I don't think it's the best way to decide.
DYH is probably the last scum.
##Vote DoYouHas
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This is damning. Particulary the third point; it strongly indicates a scum partner.
On December 09 2015 19:49 Rels wrote:Now here is what FF does concerning DYH: 1 - never talked directly to him. 2 - does not have a read on him ever: Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:24 disformation wrote:On December 04 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I replaced into one of these high effort games eh? I don't think I can compete with Trfel. This HtS thing is super confusing to me right now, so I was trying to find something in the EoD1. Like Trfel is sending mixed signal, NocturneMage replaced into a super shady looking slot with some shady looking entry posts and the guy I have a scum read on (DYH) hesitates not a second to vote with NM... though after rereading DYH's case on HtS it isn't bad... which brings me to the next point: If I ignore HtS's sickness, she doesn't good either. Can't even hope that Damdred comes in, drops three one liners, and drops some of his logic...  Btw, do you have a read on DYH? not yet no Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 08:28 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 08:17 disformation wrote:On December 05 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok am at work what's up boys I see hts still hasn't popped up? Guess she gave up?
Hmmm... I think her last post was at start of N1 when kush flipped? So possible. Currently looking at Fidei86's filter. Any questions for me while I am around? Have you looked at DYH, yet? Right, no, on it chief. The only posts where we can guess his read on DYH are these ones. It looks like he's townleaning him, but not much. This is a scum partner indicator. Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 11:01 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 10:29 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch? I'm clearly not playing this game right because I actually really, really like what disformation says here. But I didn't care that much when he first said it Basically, DoYouHas (in the middle of Day 1 ish) stated that he was going to take a look at the people in the "middle" (because he felt that the most active/vocal people were town). Fair enough. He looked at Fidei86, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, and disformation, and didn't get anything out of it. I'm not sure if this means he didn't get any scumreads out of this or if he didn't get any reads at all from this, if I can catch DoYouHas sometime I'd like to ask this. From this, two things happened. First, he came up with a townread on disformation (because he was sheeping the wagon of his townreads, and mentioned disformation). Second, he got a scumread and case on Half the Sky Night 1, despite not getting much scummy (presumably) from her filter earlier. Hm, I guess this makes sense. Maybe I need to look more closely but let's assume there's no shenanigans tomorrow and HTS flips red. What does that make you think of DYH? I'm fairly suspicious of DoYouHas. I'm not really sure what implications a Half the Sky scum flip would have on DoYouHas. Do you have any thoughts about NocturneMage or anyone else that you want to talk about? DYH brought up HTS as possibler scum before NM and NM referenced DYH in his post calling HTS scummy. I think NM's entrance set a bit of a scummy tone initially but his recent postings have been pointed and he seems to be following a logical thought progression. He's obviously very confident in his HTS read which is why I'm sheeped all over that. I think NM is towny though I'm pretty allergic to deep reading right now. also he has 5 pages after replacing in night 1, is NM known to be a high effort scum? Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote:What posts are taking the easy way out btw shining? I'm aware that I told LS that I'd do stuff and then did not but when did I deliver easy low effort content relative to what "lazy uncaring town FF" would do? On December 06 2015 09:02 The Shining wrote:
I don't want screenshots. Give me a reaction instead? There's 1 or 2 scum bussing HtS. Do you have any thoughts? Anyone who You think voted HtS too easily? Thoughts on disfo? re: scum busing hts yep, scum bused hts. NM had her number and she would know that from the get go, especially with her being sick. Which leads into disform, the WIFOM here is strong but I don't think scum would put themselves out there like a sore thumb like that. re: people voting hts too easily everyone? DYH at least had a case but most people referenced NM when they voted from what I remember 3 - questions people that talks about DYH, asking them to flesh out their reads / expand. This is a classic mafia partner tell; FF does not push DYH, but is acting like he might be suspicious of him so they're not too obviously linked. Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch? Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 10:29 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch? I'm clearly not playing this game right because I actually really, really like what disformation says here. But I didn't care that much when he first said it Basically, DoYouHas (in the middle of Day 1 ish) stated that he was going to take a look at the people in the "middle" (because he felt that the most active/vocal people were town). Fair enough. He looked at Fidei86, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, and disformation, and didn't get anything out of it. I'm not sure if this means he didn't get any scumreads out of this or if he didn't get any reads at all from this, if I can catch DoYouHas sometime I'd like to ask this. From this, two things happened. First, he came up with a townread on disformation (because he was sheeping the wagon of his townreads, and mentioned disformation). Second, he got a scumread and case on Half the Sky Night 1, despite not getting much scummy (presumably) from her filter earlier. Hm, I guess this makes sense. Maybe I need to look more closely but let's assume there's no shenanigans tomorrow and HTS flips red. What does that make you think of DYH? Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 11:02 LightningStrike wrote:On December 05 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:On December 05 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On December 05 2015 10:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
yo LS you were sad that I brushed you off before what've you got for me Ya I was wanting to know if you gotten anything from filter diving that the people you said you were going to? didn't do it, who again? I forgot you said you had 150 posts you catch up on I mean that. Did you get anything from those 150 posts that you were catching up on? i only really commented on the palmar/fidei interaction but I think the lack of HTS + the lack of any real resistance to the HTS lynch means this is probably a full-steam-ahead bus situation. I think that trfel has been acting strange but outside of what I've already said I've not read much further into him. I think you're a little to focused on yourself, LS and would like to see sme reads from you. On December 05 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:BTW James I did say some of my treads throughout my filter but here is a list if you really need one -_- Town: Palmar: Meta says town for him here with his push on Shining look exactly like he did to me in Metal Mini FF: Lazy FF is normally town FF from what I remember but I want him to do more work Rels: He actually put out some cases mainly his case on FYH seems to stick out to me a little and when he was scum I don't remember him casing multiple people O_o Shining: His responses and his questioning seem like Town Shining this game. Tfrel: He did try to case people yes but he done it as scum but he seem much more serious tone here but I should prob check the scum game that some of you guys said this similar to his play there. NM: He went super tryhard right out of the gates but my only issue with him like Rels said is that he not as analyical as I remember him being. Null: HTS: Some of her content seems questionable but she not feeling exactly well either but I willing to give her another day for now to have her feel better and post again. James: It might be a long time but I don't think I ever seen james get so tunneled on me ever O_o But his content is okay. Scum: DYH His read progression is very weird like it doesn't feel natural. Plus some of stuff seems like it adds little value. If I missing anyone let me know. Plus disformation being town he contributed a good amount and brought up stuff that people had overlooked or no one was willing to. could you expand upon your DYH read since we're talking about him right now?
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Vote Count
disformation (2): NocturneMage, DoYouHas
DoYouHas (2): disformation, Rels
Not Voting (3): Fidei86, LightningStrike, The Shining
Currently disformation is set to be lynched.
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On December 10 2015 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:Vote Count disformation (1): NocturneMage DoYouHas (1): disformation Not Voting (5): DoYouHas, Rels, Fidei86, LightningStrike, NocturneMage Currently disformation is set to be lynched.This Day ends at Friday, Dec 11 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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I wasn't aware I got a free vote. Cheers mods.
##vote disformation
In seriousness, I'll be around I want to say midnight-ish my time to read further/discuss (looking more into more indicative evidence if any on Rels case ATM I'm not sure I understand) if people are around.
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On December 11 2015 02:03 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:Vote Count disformation (1): NocturneMage DoYouHas (1): disformation Not Voting (5): DoYouHas, Rels, Fidei86, LightningStrike, NocturneMage Currently disformation is set to be lynched.This Day ends at Friday, Dec 11 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. I wasn't aware I got a free vote. Cheers mods. ##vote disformationIn seriousness, I'll be around I want to say midnight-ish my time to read further/discuss (looking more into more indicative evidence if any on Rels case ATM I'm not sure I understand) if people are around.
phone post:
yep it appears you have annexed the shinings vote. i call collusion! this is a conspiracy to biry me before i can uncover the truth!
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Hts didnt anything for 71 hours n1-d2. It is indicative that she's OK being lynched, and that her teammates took advantage of it to get town cred.
FF didn't really take advantage of it. I don't see disfo being the last scum, that would mean the scum team just didn't get advantage of their perfect info.
This indicates of course dyh or nm. Maybe fidei too.
Please stop being inactive and lets lynch dyh today please. I think I'll fight for his lynch.
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I here now but on my phone but I will try to filter dive everyone until I get home.
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On December 11 2015 02:03 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:Vote Count disformation (1): NocturneMage DoYouHas (1): disformation Not Voting (5): DoYouHas, Rels, Fidei86, LightningStrike, NocturneMage Currently disformation is set to be lynched.This Day ends at Friday, Dec 11 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. I wasn't aware I got a free vote. Cheers mods. ##vote disformationIn seriousness, I'll be around I want to say midnight-ish my time to read further/discuss (looking more into more indicative evidence if any on Rels case ATM I'm not sure I understand) if people are around.
The 3rd part of the post of ff posts on dyh is super incriminating. Ff refusing to give a read on dyh, but being aware he made a case on hts + asking everybody that talks about dyh means they are partner. Do you disagree ?
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At home now.
Got dinner and a few chores to take care of, but am semi around.
On December 10 2015 09:41 The Shining wrote:
GG Trfel. I can't tell if scum didn't shoot me because I'm wrong on disfo and they want him mislynched, or because shooting me would've implicated disfo too much. Or Trfel confirmed himself town with the Fecal lynch and scum needed him gone for that.
Iirc Trfel was still entertaining the thought of NM scum...But he also hinted at being willing to vote disfo, as per that spoiler on one of his posts saying I probably saved him some reading. It could be a way to weaken the disfo wagon while leaving me alive to drown in wifom.
I'm phone posting so I'll do some rereads and make a decision when I get home. I'm iffy on disfos reaction to my case, too, it doesn't make me see him any better.
Hmmm.
Care to explain, why my response is iffy? Is it tone/meta again or do you think I didn't explain certain things properly, or did try to avoid a certain issue, or what? Maybe I can expand on some points, if you think my explanation was lacking in some areas. But just telling me the response was iffy, doesn't help me in helping you to read me correctly.
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Just got home and I did filter dive NM first and concluded that the only thing that would make him scum would he heavily bussed HTS with her permission seeing how they are husband and wife. Otherwise I do him as town.
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Okay, guys. I decided to bust out some mad skillz and try to tell you a story. So gather round the camp fire and listen to uncle disformation tell you an epic of unfathomable proportions.
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Agh sorry guys, work has been intense over the last couple of days, particularly as we have non-stop parties this time of year. I have our Xmas party tomorrow, and I had drinks this evening as well. Ugh. Will try and do some filter diving around 4:30pm tomorrow till maybe 5:30.
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On December 11 2015 09:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Agh sorry guys, work has been intense over the last couple of days, particularly as we have non-stop parties this time of year. I have our Xmas party tomorrow, and I had drinks this evening as well. Ugh. Will try and do some filter diving around 4:30pm tomorrow till maybe 5:30.
Yo, NM I believe we might have a candidate for your drunk analysis here. 
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I'm here. Going to try and do some reading.
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Skimmed from night 3 to disformation, your rebuttal to Shining's case.
So in summation you think Shining is tunnelling/confirmation bias on you. You proposed that if you got mislynched and town were wrong on both you and DYH, that LS and Fidei are the next likely mafia. What are you gauging them at as they do things through this cycle?
Can you make an argument for either of them making the plays they have as mafia? Any voting arguments or motives from those two in your own words? I haven't seen much in the way from you, from others yes, but not from you. (If you have, just quote it, thanks.)
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