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On November 28 2015 06:18 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote:Just to expand on OO: On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote:
brace yourselves
thanksgiving is coming
i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
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i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.
boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.
as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.
feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.
honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever
strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}
oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel
i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny
#vote: onegu I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point:He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch?
See, I was super excited that I had such a strong town toneread on your day one that a went and found that bear mask from a while ago.
It's still here I'm just not sure I want to put it on anymore, you know?
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Sheeple:
boxerfred: Pretty much at the same lv of contribution as Onegu, but he's thrown out the excuse of having tonsillitis.
No way to have a real read, my gut feeling is that he's town.
Hope you feel better dude, and please give us something to go on when ya do.
Scott: Weaker filter than either BF or Onegu. Literally only throws out a townread on GB and sheeps him.
Considering Scott made a post earlier on where he questioned GB's read on me it seems really odd that he would sheep GB on that same read without considering anything else.
Scott is typically a low volume poster, but he usually puts at least one big reads post or comments about multiple people/things. This feels more like he is struggling to contribute anything to the game.
Was gunna do a read on Sn0 here too, but it's gunna have to wait till after daypost. My initial read hasn't really changed, in fact I was planning to push Sn0 as my main D1 lynch if Vivax's reaction to my vote hadn't been so bad.
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On November 28 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 06:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote:Just to expand on OO: On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote:
brace yourselves
thanksgiving is coming
i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
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i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.
boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.
as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.
feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.
honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever
strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}
oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel
i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny
#vote: onegu I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point:He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch? See, I was super excited that I had such a strong town toneread on your day one that a went and found that bear mask from a while ago. It's still here I'm just not sure I want to put it on anymore, you know?
OH PLEASE DO IT FF IT HAS BEEN AGES SINCE YOU DID IT
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On November 27 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
the problem is, TT has produced the most content by far and you're not evaluating any of it, you're just stuck on one post from earlier that you sheeped off
you also casually drop this "marv (and tt, chrome) for endgame credit" which i find totally unbelievable.
Specifically "to avoid chaos" ?
The game is SO. GOD. DAMN. SLOW. what fucking chaos? the game could DO with some chaos. I don't think you think any of it, I think you just wrote it to bullshit.
ergo you are mafia
lol I know this is on vivax but it makes so much sense. Which makes me worry that marv is doing the thing where he's good at mafia...
Where did I put my foil..
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On November 28 2015 06:23 Tictock wrote:
Sheeple:
boxerfred: Pretty much at the same lv of contribution as Onegu, but he's thrown out the excuse of having tonsillitis.
No way to have a real read, my gut feeling is that he's town.
Hope you feel better dude, and please give us something to go on when ya do.
Scott: Weaker filter than either BF or Onegu. Literally only throws out a townread on GB and sheeps him.
Considering Scott made a post earlier on where he questioned GB's read on me it seems really odd that he would sheep GB on that same read without considering anything else.
Scott is typically a low volume poster, but he usually puts at least one big reads post or comments about multiple people/things. This feels more like he is struggling to contribute anything to the game.
Was gunna do a read on Sn0 here too, but it's gunna have to wait till after daypost. My initial read hasn't really changed, in fact I was planning to push Sn0 as my main D1 lynch if Vivax's reaction to my vote hadn't been so bad.
I'm a sucker for RL excuses he said he was having a fight and that usually means a lover's spat or a physical confrontation and either one would make me give absolutely 0 fucks about mafia.
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On November 28 2015 06:24 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote:On November 28 2015 06:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote:Just to expand on OO: On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote:
brace yourselves
thanksgiving is coming
i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
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i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.
boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.
as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.
feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.
honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever
strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}
oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel
i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny
#vote: onegu I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point:He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch? See, I was super excited that I had such a strong town toneread on your day one that a went and found that bear mask from a while ago. It's still here I'm just not sure I want to put it on anymore, you know? OH PLEASE DO IT FF IT HAS BEEN AGES SINCE YOU DID IT
I only wear the face of locked-in townreads nowadays. I'll let you know. I've got a couple suspicions. Let me check you out a little more after I finish looking at eod
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On November 28 2015 06:14 ANickelDrink wrote:lol first post after I went to bed elaborate
Wondered how you missed that.
I had just realized this...
The real reason you wanted to smurf:
ANickelDrink:
Worth a dime.
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Oh yeah I'll take a pic of that when I get to work lol it's from an old pepsi ad I'm not creative
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On November 27 2015 02:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
sl sounds like a rayn smurf
lol rayn has much better grammar
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On November 28 2015 06:30 ANickelDrink wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 06:24 GlowingBear wrote:On November 28 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote:On November 28 2015 06:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote:Just to expand on OO: On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote:
brace yourselves
thanksgiving is coming
i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
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i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.
boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.
as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.
feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.
honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever
strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}
oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel
i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny
#vote: onegu I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point:He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch? See, I was super excited that I had such a strong town toneread on your day one that a went and found that bear mask from a while ago. It's still here I'm just not sure I want to put it on anymore, you know? OH PLEASE DO IT FF IT HAS BEEN AGES SINCE YOU DID IT I only wear the face of locked-in townreads nowadays. I'll let you know. I've got a couple suspicions. Let me check you out a little more after I finish looking at eod
 but I'm so townie in this game...
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Eh, yea I forgot about Scotts RL stuff.
Ugh, too many people not playing in this game >.<
Well we'll see what Scott has to say when he gets back, I think my point still stands though.
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Anyways I gotta get some stuff done
I'll be back around sometime later tonight.
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On November 27 2015 02:59 Koshi wrote:
Holy fuck TickTock and OO being bosses on page 24. Jeez.
I'll give you tictock going ham but this?
On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:+ Show Spoiler [rant as fuck] +this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing. tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess. boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today. fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which. as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment. feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game. honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess {boxer onegu} strongerest {sn0 SL fefe} less stronk {tictock scott vivax} middling {everyone else} oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny #vote: onegu
that's not really boss material imho
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ok i'm bored see you guys at deadline i don't work til an hour after today
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On November 28 2015 06:18 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote:Just to expand on OO: On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.
koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.
the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote:
brace yourselves
thanksgiving is coming
i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
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i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.
boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.
as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.
feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.
honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever
strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}
oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel
i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny
#vote: onegu I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point:He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch?
I mean, I'd like to buy your vote like this, but I can't really make promises about lynching someone tomorrow. I can say that I'll seriously consider the points you have though (as usual).
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marvellosity, startled by the recent death of an American guest that had dropped into the castle for the night, wandered around the castle and the attachment to the lodge. On the way back to the lodge, he noticed a hallway referring to the Henker von Bessungen. Armed with a pocket knife and his karate skills - he had just achieved his red belt and was hungry for more - he was fearless wandering into the hallway and taking in the history of the castle.
Foolishness, who was on the travelling party as well, followed him through the hallway and mentioned to him there was a secret passageway that cut straight to the restaurant, but also that the passageway also cut close to the staff quarters at the lodge.
"How do I access this? Might mean more beer for us, you know." Marv quipped.
Foolishness walked up to a hook mounted in the wall and jammed it towards the floor. Instantly, the bookshelf started to move inwards against the wall, revealing a short gap. The two slipped through to another short hallway with several knights templar and sentry guard statues in armour and weapons in tow.
"Well this is nice," muttered Marv. "What now?"
Foolishness motioned towards the staff quarters. "Let's get ourselves some extra beer."
"Meh, German beer is never as good as our ale. Particularly if it's from Yorkshire. You realise this, right?"
"Yorkshire? You're such a snob. Of course you're biased."
The two walked towards disformation's office. In front of the doors were two sentry statues, both with axes in tow.
He stepped forward and banged loudly on the guide's door.
All of a sudden, the hallway emitted laser beams separately, splitting the two in the hallway.
"No alarm," responded Foolishness, "but something tells me I shouldn't leave you here. Not in the Henker hallway."
"Henker?"
"That's German for executioner."
"Oh please I'm not superstitious."
Next to disformation's office was a short hallway which Marvellosity attempted to enter.
"Alright, go that way, and climb out the window, that's your only hope." responded Foolishness.
But that attempt failed. Just as marv stepped past the vestibule, laser security zapped him as the sensors activated. As he fell forward, the large axe from the sentry guard next to the sensor fell forward, severing his head.
Foolishness narrowly avoided choking on his own vomit as marvellosity's head rolled back to the main hallway.
marvellosity, a member of the touring party (Town Vanilla), loses his head!
Day 2 has begun.
The voting thread is here.
Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
At that time, the player with the most votes gets lynched.
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You all hear a ghostly voice that sounds like Vivax:
lynch the guy who sounds like a clock
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*neatly folds foil hat into a square*
*puts foil back in the drawer*
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