EPTI take it your reads are SL/HTS/Rels
So you aren't making any sense right now.
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I take it your reads are SL/HTS/Rels So you aren't making any sense right now. | ||
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Kita is mafia. Xata is mafia. Last mafia is either Coag or Rels. Send anyone else, win the game. Concede plz. | ||
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If I was spy, do you think that instead of instantly winning the game after saying I would yolo vote yes, I decide to randomly prolong this for a few more days? | ||
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Xata is among them too. I'm not that sure this was an all town team after all. | ||
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On November 14 2015 21:56 Xatalos wrote: To expand on this: if we assume Rels is scum, it's proven that he's voted NO to a failure team before as well, so why not now? Clearly it's impossible to predict what the exact vote results will be, and it's always scum motivated to confuse the heck out of town with WIFOM. Time is on scum's side after all here (triple LYLO ahead) so why risk everything on voting YES with full force to a fail team? Makes more sense as spy to no vote to a fail team when the mission won't win you the game than when it does. It earns you enough trust to be put onto the next mission. We've seen how that worked out when rayn nominated one. | ||
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On November 14 2015 22:04 Xatalos wrote: I guess that's true. Still there wouldn't be guarantee for scum Rels that voting YES here would win the game either. It's very possible that the team could still be disapproved anyway and Rels would just look bad afterwards. In that case, it would just be a gamble with the possibility of losing the game in the long term or possibly winning the game immediately. I can easily see scum Rels making either choice. Which is why I faked voting yes. Spies were likely to vote yes here just seeing that me and everyone else on that team would support it, plus Artanis who wasn't on it. It's still more likely this was an all town team just by comparing all the votes from failed missions. Another thing I want to mention is that it's not bad at all for spies to bring buddies to their team if always only one sabotage act is detected, it seems to be pretty common around here to say "but he wouldn't want another teammate on that wagon". | ||
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On November 14 2015 22:11 Xatalos wrote: Well, I won't deny that my voting record isn't the best one. I think it's still better than HTS/Coag though. HTS is especially bad because her YES votes have been to failing teams that she herself hasn't been part of, further pointing to her seeing a chance to pass some failing team in those situations (especially voting Rels to pass when she has mostly been scumreading Rels throughout the game). Fair point, I shall revisit HTS. But it would mean that I'm wrong on kita and that's kinda tough cause I always had a bad feeling about him. Tinfoil request accepted. Coag might as well not have voted anything and have defaulted to no on the last mission. Maybe spies missed a victory just cause he's a lazy bum lolz. Fidei said he didn't receive all the votes. | ||
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Right now I'm kinda lazy, I'll be back later. | ||
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He has these brash parts of his filter where he does what the fuck he wants which is kinda townie, but then there are also parts, especially at the start of the game, where I feel like he's going after people for bad reasons. It's so tough to read new players. | ||
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Check this out, it's around the mission Xata issued. Pre-mission-pass: On November 05 2015 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fuck you are so town sl.  Post-mission-pass: On November 06 2015 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Haha^^ GJ town game is gg. On November 07 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never pushed SL to be on the mission. As you see, he actually believes the mission passes, then he comes back and realizes that everyone else has another opinion and immediately defends himself from the notion that he wanted SL on a mission. That doesn't add up Paying more attention to the way he talks to Rels pre-mission, it looks to me like he gets angry to have an excuse to leave. Pushes scum on Shockey and Rels, but especially on Rels. Will post more as I keep on reading. | ||
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On November 08 2015 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos who do you actually think is most likely to be scum rn? I don't like the "this guy is scum and then two of these five other people". Three people, most likely to be mafia, ok? On November 08 2015 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are going to put both Rels & Shockeyy there you have to explain why my analysis on them does not make sense. This might be semantics/a mistake but asking Xata to explain why he would scumread Shockey shouldn't make sense from rayn's perspective, he should be glad of Xata accepting Shockey being scum. Then we proceed to this: On November 09 2015 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, kitaman, Rels, Superbia On November 10 2015 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably not since all of sl/shockeyy/hts/artanis are gonna vote no, i assume you are gonna vote no too. Half the Sky - YES Xatalos - YES Artanis[Xp] - NO raynpelikoneet - YES ShoCkeyy - YES Rels - YES sicklucker - NO kitaman27 - YES Vivax - YES So the mission fails. Only SL and Artanis vote no as predicted. HTS and shockey vote yes. What happens afterwards is that rayn commits suicide by host for some reason. But that at a time where he could have done this: Go wtf on the 2 yes votes and immediately start looking for the mafia on that wagon. Given what he said about those voting no, rayn here would have immediately gone for a team of HTS/Shockey/??? Xatalos! Cause SL voting no here and Xata voting yes should have immediately put Xata into the scummy corner for him. But that wasn't possible cause then the mission wouldn't have failed. So the only conclusion to be gained from this mission is that either rayn, Xata or kita were mafia, which would have made it impossible for HTS and shockey to be mafia too. Instead of thinking logically here, rayn decided to throw a tantrum of rage on purpose, cause the only logical conclusion to be had was that he was dead wrong and that he would look much worse. | ||
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On November 15 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually I think it fits with townRayn after all. He does like his tunnels and he was 100% sure Xata was town. How could he be after the mission he issued failed? HTS shockey are scumreads, he thinks it's an all town team, yet they both vote yes when he thought it would be no. SL votes no. Xata votes yes. He should be 100 % town to himself as town. Where's the conclusion that Xata could be scum? But if Xata is scum then what are HTS and Shockey? All of them weren't on the mission that just failed! | ||
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Your scumteam is what I was at yesterday before rereading anything but it's too easy. And Ockhams razor isn't how you play mafia. Not everything that rages and gets mad at stupid things is a town rayn. He uses being mad as an excuse when he plays mafia. | ||
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Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ?????? Except that Fidei said not all votes were sent in, so something might be fishy about this. Tbh I think it would be fair to know who defaulted to "no", the voting outcome should be public, but it might be game breaking, idk. | ||
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Shockey and HTS voted yes to every failed mission except shockey on the first. They also voted yes to shockeys nom. But the spy who sabotaged mission two voted no. My tinfoil is on Coag. Day 1 Xatalos Nomination (Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES raynpelikoneet - YES MISSION IS APPROVED Day 2 raynpelikoneet's Nomination (raynpelikoneet, kitaman, Rels, Vivax) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES raynpelikoneet - YES MISSION IS APPROVED Day 3 ShoCkeyy's Nomination (Shockey, Vivax, Half the Sky, sicklucker) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES Coagulation - NO <- probably doesn't even know how the game works. MISSION IS REJECTED In summary, here's an accurate depiction of HTS and rayn this game in regards to failed teams: ![[image loading]](http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257423i450CA8BFA1A9D844/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1) | ||
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On November 10 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: HtS is scum because of two reasons: - there are at least seven instances where she displays she is not reading the thread properly and just saying stuff that is completely incorrect - she is purposefully trying to antagonize me. the stuff she points out is completely wrong and i am gonna go into this tomorrow in more detail, i just don't care to post and dig stuff up rn. Even if she is delusional enough to actually believe in what she says the fact is she reads me town and she has shown she knows what saying things like that (bashing on my play -- especially in games where i actually have played well) do to me. There is absolutely no town motivation to purposefully try to antagonize your townreads. That is a fact. There is only scum motive for that --> to try to make me play not optimally. A few posts later: - She makes up bullshit reasons to call me scum. This isn't town rayn broski | ||
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