EPT[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31
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Although for me it's more of a toneread on Xata around the phase where super stops posting and kita joins the game. These are all consecutive posts and they look kinda nervous to me. Xata just came out from an extended discussion with my slot, and that's how his posts look (like he's worn out). Him talking about kita as if it mattered about his alignment that he didn't reply within ~30 minutes, dropping a series of exhausted posts that look like he's crying out to someone to end his life. That's a bit exaggerated but tl;dr: This post series I don't like. They just look fake and are kinda apathetic. The way he thinks of "oh shit I need to get some reads out now" right after the convo when only 3 players posted look like he feels forced to do that. + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2015 09:00 Xatalos wrote: Well, I mostly hope Half the Sky would appear. A great deal will depend on her alignment. Such as if her proposed team can even be considered. Next up seems to be me... That's nice. Should be enough time to find two townies by that time. On November 02 2015 09:02 Xatalos wrote: Damn... Am I just antepenultimate because I forgot to claim penultimate? On November 02 2015 09:06 Xatalos wrote: kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now? On November 02 2015 09:19 Xatalos wrote: Either there's an elaborate essay incoming or that was a really weak entry.... On November 02 2015 09:29 Xatalos wrote: I guess there isn't anything. Can't say either kita or Superbia left good impressions yet. kita for just ignoring everything and leaving, and Superbia for announcing some long-term scumread (??) based on me saying that the lack of communications should be a mess for scum... Eagerly anticipating Half the Sky's entry... I go to sleep. And I like rayn for townreading my predecessor and bashing heads with Rels on that matter. I think I want to TR rayn for that. | ||
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On November 05 2015 00:52 Superbia wrote: Nvm about being scared on rayn. This fucking line just solidifies him as town: I don't even care that I'm in this list, this echoes my thoughts so much (mostly the second list- I would replace myself with sicklucker). I'm still not caught up fully but I just read this like 50 pages back. Why is rayn sending himself with 2 people he thought were mafia? Pardon any ignorance. | ||
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On November 10 2015 05:53 Rels wrote: rayn though: please consider switching Superbia to shockey unless Vivax amazes everybody. He's the only NO voter I'm doubtful about. Rels looks good too just for saying this cause knowing I'm town and thinking Shockey is too, I just see no point for a spy to tell rayn to swap out a town for another town (unless speculative wifom planting which is something I don't see here). I'm vigilant about kita as he's one of the people I can get really paranoid about. I have a history of reading him correctly too so until I get to do that and given that his first posts in the game didn't really scream town to me, I'd prefer to not have him on a mission for now. I'd be fine with rayn/me/shockey/Rels | ||
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On November 03 2015 22:46 ShoCkeyy wrote: I don't even have my full scum team list yet, I don't think anybody has a full scum team list yet, but some how you already do which further fuels my suspicion against you. I refuse to believe somebody could be mafia and say this xD | ||
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On November 10 2015 16:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I like Vivax so far since he seems to be accusing people left and right, which he likes to do as town. Why do you say this? I posted more townreads than suspects. | ||
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On November 10 2015 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is absolutely no way HtS is town in this game. I think that your Shockey scumread is either tinfoil or just out of spite. This is your scenario: He voted yes on a team two other spies voted no, and no on a team the 2 other spies most likely upvoted. All your HTS is mafia with Shockey scenario has somewhat of a footing with team 1 but loses it entirely at team 2 when he voted no against HTS who you claim is scum with him. Everyone who voted no on team 2 is rightly included in your team except Shockey, and yourself who voted yes. I have to admit I can also see why people would scumread him since I saw how he said kita had a lot more reads than Xata when kita was just listing Xata's reads, but that's a mistake that can happen to both alignments, esp. if he has little time to play. | ||
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For now we can just chill and wait for the outcome. All this speculation pre-result is even too tinfoil for me. | ||
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On November 12 2015 03:56 Half the Sky wrote: Kita made a good point as to why you sure could be. This is where Kita was day 1. Obviously on the back on new information, and looking how he has interacted with people and THESE READS.... AT THAT TIME, he mentioned they couldn't possibly stand out as teammates, but both have one major thing in common - the reads on each other were a stretch which is common(ish) when mafia need to discredit each other. From the first failed mission I am 99.9% Xatalos is the saboteur, and the above plus sicklucker's points on Superbia (prior to the fully afk) lurky game make this combination a bit more likely. Again, let me remind everyone SUPERBIA HAD JACK ALL ON NOMS Day 1. From a mafia mindset he might not have wanted to give anyone away! Thoughts? Kita, Kita, Kita, where are you... The reads on each other being a stretch isn't common among mafia, it's common across the entire game. It's part of mafia to interpret a lot of things the wrong way. Often unintentionally so it's just as likely for a townie to do. And I see no reason why you would discredit your teammate first when you start in a game like this where you want anyone on the team who is a spy to enter a mission. Your arguments aren't particularly convincing. | ||
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Are you sure you know how resistance works, HTS? | ||
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We're heading there. I already said I'd look at kita if the mission failed cause I don't trust him for pushing my slot and something about his first post bothering me. | ||
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There's no voting analysis in there, you just jump from conclusion to conclusion cementing everything with a bit of reasoning to make it fit into a scenario where I'm scum. But the reasoning The general idea is that posting your reasoning is townie but I don't think it's that easy. Too many mafias were able to post a lot in my past games. The quality of your post isn't the quantity, it's getting to the right conclusions with few arguments which make sense. And you arrive at a conclusion with me mafia which seems to have represnted the general idea even before the mission failed, which completely ignores my play and superbia's (who in my opinion was very townie as the game started and I hoped that would be obvious). Also your arguments in this game show that you put in a ton of caveats. It's like you have a hard time believing your own arguments. "Seems; unless they are buddies; I think x but I don't know if x". Oh and what I mentioned about your first posts in the game? You were totally evasive of the xata superbia exchange and when being asked about it you gave a rather meaningless answer and then started talking about rnging game outcomes, which read very pseudo-helpful to-me. So I guess I made my thoughts on you known without filling two pages with iterations. | ||
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On November 12 2015 18:52 sicklucker wrote: hey vivax can you explain why you voted yes on that last mission? I already did before it started and if that's not enough for you, tough titties. You can go read it instead of asking me dumb questions 2 days after I explained it. | ||
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I can not figure out why you'd ask me that now, it's just unspecific and easy to check by yourself. | ||
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On November 12 2015 19:03 sicklucker wrote: ok so i acualy read your filter. What I learned from it is that you had no read on kita but voted yes on the mission anyway.. Like its your first day in the game you should be no voting pretty much everything to get more information. but you vote yes? You town read rayn sure. you kind of townread rels sure. This could easily be to suit your need to vote yes tho. But 0 mention of kita Like you shouldnt be voting yes if you have no read on kita And I should be voting yes when I want to see if it applies that all the spies voted yes on the sabotaged Xata mission, cause that's what rayn also thought. Anything outside that would have been a gimmicky choice. Attacking my reads when I replace in and focus on finding a townie to sheep and making my decision by votes is an attempt at a low blow to discredit me. I naturally will attempt to gain reads where I can but until I find more time to dedicate to the game like it was the case on this team (which btw would have passed anyway), I won't immediately make my reads the pillar of my decisions. I still think it was a good play cause I wasn't 100% sure my kita paranoia was justified, but felt sure rayn was town and hoped he'd have picked the right combination, which on top of it consisted of people who voted NO to Xatas team. | ||
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Now I'm reasonably sure you're mafia for that nitpicking which is off in timing (you could have asked me that two days ago or just read my filter) and argument (hurr you were unsure on kita and I don't care about any other of the reasons you mentioned for your decision). | ||
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