EPTAlso what are the situations where you do not pick yourself into the team as a leader?
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raynpelikoneet
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Also what are the situations where you do not pick yourself into the team as a leader? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Analysis time! Feel free to ask me questions and I'll get to it after. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Artanis[Xp]
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kitaman27
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On November 04 2015 05:40 Xatalos wrote: I don't really follow the read on me, kita. I didn't say that Superbia was constantly ACTIVE, but that he was constantly engaged WHEN he was active. He immediately engaged me when I came to the thread, and interacted actively later on when he returned to the thread... Whereas you felt kind of distant / avoiding direct engagement. Well, I'm not really sure about him at the moment, but you're misrepresenting my read on him there. I guess we interpret the term engaged differently. I see it as someone who is consistently interacting with the thread, covering all the relevant talking points, while bringing new ideas to the table. On November 02 2015 20:43 Superbia wrote: Oh yeah, I also kind of didn't like Kita's big 2nd post- felt kind of forced. But not even near sure yet. This is the only time he mentions me, yet makes no attempt to interact with me despite being unsure. Shockyy and Artanis has never been mentioned in his filter, despite both of them having entered the thread by post #580. There are no nomination suggestions aimed at the leader HTS or any attempt to discuss things with her. Really the only person he has engaged is you. He had the initial exchange between you and him, a return explanation of the initial exchange, and a third response to Rels about the initial exchange. Aside from that, there was a comment about the Rels/rayn stuff and a few one liner questions, but most of his focus has been on a single topic. This all feels odd considering you town read him around the deadline, yet say I'm mafia by attacking me for "ignoring everything and leaving". Do you have any objections to anything I've said about individuals other than you? Who are you thinking about for tomorrow at the moment? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On November 04 2015 04:28 kitaman27 wrote: Here are my reads so far. I'm sure they will change as time goes on. Admittedly there is a lot of wishy/washy or null reads. I'm still not completely sure about anyone really. Half the Sky - Leaning town. At the start of the game, I was concerned with the fact that she essentially posted exactly what I typically hear from scum players 6-12 hours into the game when I rarely choose to participate much. Since then, she has stayed pretty active and shows evidence of reading the thread. At certain points there was a pretty easy opportunity to Uh, I think you're missing something here Kita. | ||
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JudgeJudy
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On November 03 2015 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: But if you are scum you only need to include yourself into the team and you can easily call the other two people town and "look good" On November 03 2015 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here is what i see has happened: - HtS nominates herself/rayn/Superbia - you become anti-super, as you yourself put it On November 03 2015 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: So basically, if you are scum here, you take the only possible route you can -- or rather, the route that gives you the best chance of getting scum into the team (if we assume HtS is town here -- and i find it almost impossible you two are scum together). Why would you say this doesn't apply to Xatalos? He was the one that was rather insistent to be included in place of super on day one. He didn't go as far as attacking super directly, but he brought up reasons why he shouldn't be considered 100% town and definitely suggested that he should be included on multiple occasions. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 04 2015 06:35 JudgeJudy wrote: Why would you say this doesn't apply to Xatalos? He was the one that was rather insistent to be included in place of super on day one. He didn't go as far as attacking super directly, but he brought up reasons why he shouldn't be considered 100% town and definitely suggested that he should be included on multiple occasions. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 04 2015 06:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Uh, I think you're missing something here Kita. Oh yeah it looks like I lost a couple of paragraphs somewhere...at least artanis gets townie points for reading. I'm sure there are several people who skipped through it.  I think the general gist was that she had the opportunity to nominate all the good looking players and withdraw from the thread while ensuring that she could get away with looking good herself, but she continued to dig into stuff throughout the day. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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kitaman27
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On November 04 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rels do you think i am scum? Also what are the situations where you do not pick yourself into the team as a leader? On November 03 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am actually quite sure Artanis/SL are both town. Could you explain these reads more? Also, do you have any thoughts now that I shared the reads you asked for? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 04 2015 06:41 kitaman27 wrote: Could you explain these reads more? Also, do you have any thoughts now that I shared the reads you asked for? EBWOP I mean the Artanis/Sl ones, dunno how the first post got quoted. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Not really much to say about your other reads since they're pretty... vague? (kita) Nothing else at least really caught my attention. If we go with the safe plan of an all-town mission, then I'd probably pick me+rayn+HTS/Artanis/SL. The last pick depends a lot on what each of them does in the near future. If it's the riskier plan of all-scum team (or at least proposing it - not necessarily passing it), then I think kita+shockey+Rels seems okay.... Will have to consider that more as well. | ||
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Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
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On November 04 2015 06:41 kitaman27 wrote: Could you explain these reads more? Also, do you have any thoughts now that I shared the reads you asked for? Yeah i do. But you have to wait until i get home since i am out with friends and i hate posting on phone. | ||
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Xatalos
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kitaman27
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On November 04 2015 06:42 Xatalos wrote: Not really much to say about your other reads since they're pretty... vague? (kita) Nothing else at least really caught my attention. How about shockey then? That one wasn't very vague. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 04 2015 06:47 kitaman27 wrote: How about shockey then? That one wasn't very vague. Tbh it kinda was... Basically "could go both ways"... Isn't that the ultimate vague read? Tbh the way you made your read indicates that it should mild-strong scumread instead, but... The conclusion is just that. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 04 2015 06:53 Xatalos wrote: Tbh it kinda was... Basically "could go both ways"... Isn't that the ultimate vague read? Tbh the way you made your read indicates that it should mild-strong scumread instead, but... The conclusion is just that.lol maybe it was less vague in my mind. XD The conclusion was scum leaning if it wasn't clear. "I never called you mafia directly" "You're ignoring me when I try to interact with you" "These guys are suspicious because they both jump in to make the same point" "I'm going to watch how things play out before providing strong reads" Would you consider these common themes between his past mafia games and this one to be a concern or is the connection more likely to be a coincidence in your opinion? How do you interpret his post that he hasn't directly called rayn mafia because he doesn't have proof? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 04 2015 07:02 kitaman27 wrote: lol maybe it was less vague in my mind. XD The conclusion was scum leaning if it wasn't clear. "I never called you mafia directly" "You're ignoring me when I try to interact with you" "These guys are suspicious because they both jump in to make the same point" "I'm going to watch how things play out before providing strong reads" Would you consider these common themes between his past mafia games and this one to be a concern or is the connection more likely to be a coincidence in your opinion? How do you interpret his post that he hasn't directly called rayn mafia because he doesn't have proof? And he doesn't say things like that as town? If not, then it should be telling. If yes, then it shouldn't be indicative of too much. In either case, it at least shouldn't make him townier, so I guess you could call it a "concern" rather than "coincidence". Not sure what to make of that last sentence? Maybe it indicates that he's looking for reasons to scumread rather than looking for reasons to fairly evaluate? | ||
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