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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:47 GMT
#781
I have a few more minutes before I start work. But shits a bit crazy with 3-3-lots of solo. We need to consolidate on someone. Preferably Breshke but consolidation is key.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 18:47 GMT
#782
On November 18 2015 03:40 geript wrote:
I had time to read filters and compare to notes.


Fair enough.
I tried keeping notes on important/sketchy/whatever posts in my first two games, but found that these lists take too much time to keep up to date and end up huge so they don't actually help but steal time...
Also announcing that you are going to make lists/spreadsheets and not delivering might bite one in the ass. xD
Or do you have notes on the metas of different players? That would be interesting.
Maybe I just need to figure out some clever formatting for such lists, or make them easier to maintain in some way... kinda ranting now, sry.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 18:48 GMT
#783
On November 18 2015 03:47 geript wrote:
I have a few more minutes before I start work. But shits a bit crazy with 3-3-lots of solo. We need to consolidate on someone. Preferably Breshke but consolidation is key.


This will probably end with a wild flailing about and switcheroo game like 30mins - 15mins to the deadline I fear.
Nobody seems to be here. -.-
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:49 GMT
#784
When I find a meta read on people I like and is accurate I keep it for later. Like Trfel looking bad early on. I just track those useful heuristics for later games.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 18:57 GMT
#785
On November 18 2015 03:49 geript wrote:
When I find a meta read on people I like and is accurate I keep it for later. Like Trfel looking bad early on. I just track those useful heuristics for later games.


Will try and remember this for when I am able to identify accurate meta reads.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:08 GMT
#786
I really wish VE or ritoky were here.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 19:10 GMT
#787
On November 18 2015 04:08 geript wrote:
I really wish VE or ritoky were here.


Yeah, their votes are super dead/wasted at the moment.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 17 2015 19:13 GMT
#788
This makes me sad that its so dead right before lynch
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:21 GMT
#789
Yup
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 17 2015 19:21 GMT
#790
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 19:22 GMT
#791
i just woke up...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:22 GMT
#792
I've got maybe 10 minutes. But I'd like people to switch to Breshke. We need 1-2 vote consolidation regardless. But idk if that will happen.

But basically if you think I'm town, then join me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 17 2015 19:23 GMT
#793
On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Look at geript's read on scott31337. It's all association, there is no response to the actual case on him. Geript is avoiding defending scott31337's play, because he knows that it can't be done.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 17 2015 19:24 GMT
#794
Why do you have a town read on Breshke Trfel? And why does it specifically have to be mafia motivated at this juncture?

And why would geript who previously had a scum read on moos instead of jumping on the easier mislynch (when scott isn't even anywhere close to being lynched) push with breshke instead.

That makes little sense.

Scott wasn't about to be lynched it was like 4 v 2 in favor of moos. IF scott is mafia geript has no reason to push breshke?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:24 GMT
#795
On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.

Or use your head and see moosy had the votes before and I'm basically the only person who thinks he's town for any actual sort of reason.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 19:24 GMT
#796
i think you're town, but w/o reading i don't really have reason to think breshke is mafia outside of not TRing him...where is the reasons?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 17 2015 19:25 GMT
#797
I'm here, kinda. I should've tried to be around but I got some bad news from my doctor that I don't really wanna talk about. Game starting on Sunday really made this hard for me. I'm gonna catch up then post some thoughts on what I can.

Just glancing at votes, not sure of the cases behind them, but if its true from the last few posts that this thread is dead so close to deadline, I'm thinking Moosy is town and Breshke could be, too. Has anyone really defended them? Feels like scum doesn't care who is lynched right now since there's no defending or pushing in the last page or so.

I do find it interesting though that ES vote is still on Farrah. Did she ever explain why its still there? Last time we spoke she said it was "satire" and claimed it wasn't a serious vote and that she wasnt required to change the vote, even though apparently she didn't think she was that sold on Farrah being scum. But her vote is still there. Prob gonna check her filter and see if she came back again.

So much to catch up on, bare with me >_<
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#798
On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.

Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.

Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.

##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.

Ritoky plz read this
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 19:27 GMT
#799
Last minute frenzy starting: NOW!

On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.


Okay. I am aware that geript is supposed to be a really good mafia player (never played with him before). So I had this in the back of my mind. But all the votes were on moosydoosy and I am not sure if mafia geript would try to save moosydoosy?

I also have some doubts for voting on either moosy or scott.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 17 2015 19:27 GMT
#800
On November 18 2015 04:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Why do you have a town read on Breshke Trfel? And why does it specifically have to be mafia motivated at this juncture?

And why would geript who previously had a scum read on moos instead of jumping on the easier mislynch (when scott isn't even anywhere close to being lynched) push with breshke instead.

That makes little sense.

Scott wasn't about to be lynched it was like 4 v 2 in favor of moos. IF scott is mafia geript has no reason to push breshke?
Scott31337 had a very good chance of being lynched. That's easy to see.

I'll get back to you in a bit on Breshke, but I don't see the arguments against him at all.
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