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On November 18 2015 04:25 The Shining wrote:
I'm here, kinda. I should've tried to be around but I got some bad news from my doctor that I don't really wanna talk about. Game starting on Sunday really made this hard for me. I'm gonna catch up then post some thoughts on what I can.
Just glancing at votes, not sure of the cases behind them, but if its true from the last few posts that this thread is dead so close to deadline, I'm thinking Moosy is town and Breshke could be, too. Has anyone really defended them? Feels like scum doesn't care who is lynched right now since there's no defending or pushing in the last page or so.
I do find it interesting though that ES vote is still on Farrah. Did she ever explain why its still there? Last time we spoke she said it was "satire" and claimed it wasn't a serious vote and that she wasnt required to change the vote, even though apparently she didn't think she was that sold on Farrah being scum. But her vote is still there. Prob gonna check her filter and see if she came back again.
So much to catch up on, bare with me >_<
ES hasn't posted since you posted basically. Assuming surgery things, but that excuse runs out of gas in a couple minutes.
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On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos.
Ritoky this is my reasonin
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Actually I really don't think scott had much momentum at all going for him but that's just me and saying that geript is pushing breshke over scott is a gross misrepresentation of the game state.
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Like, just look at the way that scott31337 treats me and geript differently.
That does not come from town.
He doesn't even address the argument that I brought up against VisceraEyes, he just says that he needs to figure out my alignment. He doesn't even seem to consider my argument important to determining my alignment, he doesn't talk about it at all.
He has actually done zero this game. Zero.
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On November 18 2015 04:27 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. Ritoky this is my reasonin
On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke...
On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:Hmm... Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:14 Breshke wrote:Moosey do you understand that if you are town that your play is just distracting the rest of town and really hurts your chances of people listening to you. It also lets people just cop out and just talk about you being a shithead. For example On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?
What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? On November 17 2015 07:35 Breshke wrote:On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. Yes, he did. On November 17 2015 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,
Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.
1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.
2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.
3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.
4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.
I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either. Posts like this make Farah Mafia. And NM is town. On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.
So frustrating His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##UnvoteI may be back later, or on tomorrow.  Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Also scott has moved up in my lynch list because of that post And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote:
Also as NM said go look at mooseys fake rage in that game i think it is similar to here from memory. It is just like misplaced anger at absolutly nothing that sidetracks the game and gives him an excuse to post but not do anything. I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote
##vote Breshke
Added my stuff on Breshke.
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On November 18 2015 04:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I really don't think scott had much momentum at all going for him but that's just me and saying that geript is pushing breshke over scott is a gross misrepresentation of the game state. Well, you're simply wrong, the lynch was going to be between MoosyDoosy and scott31337. Given how erratic MoosyDoosy's play is, the lynch balance is extremely up in the air. Any sort of shift away from MoosyDoosy would result in scott31337 being lynched.
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On November 18 2015 04:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I really don't think scott had much momentum at all going for him but that's just me and saying that geript is pushing breshke over scott is a gross misrepresentation of the game state. Well, you're simply wrong, the lynch was going to be between MoosyDoosy and scott31337. Given how erratic MoosyDoosy's play is, the lynch balance is extremely up in the air. Any sort of shift away from MoosyDoosy would result in scott31337 being lynched.
Moosy had 6 votes and scott 2?
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Can people stop thinking about if I would or wouldn't do X as Mafia? The answer is yes. If it puts me and/or my team in better position, then I wouldn't ever hesitate to do it. Just figure out if I'm town.
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On November 18 2015 04:26 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.
##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.
Ritoky plz read this
i do remember breshke asking questions and not driving forward with them.....
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On November 18 2015 04:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I really don't think scott had much momentum at all going for him but that's just me and saying that geript is pushing breshke over scott is a gross misrepresentation of the game state. Well, you're simply wrong, the lynch was going to be between MoosyDoosy and scott31337. Given how erratic MoosyDoosy's play is, the lynch balance is extremely up in the air. Any sort of shift away from MoosyDoosy would result in scott31337 being lynched.
1) you weren't here pushing any type of lynch on scott
2) Moos led the lynch by a lot any type of push off to another person is off moos not off scott.
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Day 1 Votecount
MoosyDoosy (3): NocturneMage, disformation, MoosyDoosy, Trfel, disformation, NocturneMage, Breshke, scott31337
Breshke (3): geript, FarahBlackwing, disformation
The Shining (1): FarahBlackwing, ritoky, disformation
scott31337 (1): disformation, Trfel, FarahBlackwing
FarahBlackwing (1): Eversince, VisceraEyes, MoosyDoosy
Fecalfeast (1): VisceraEyes
mooseydoosey (1): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast
Trfel (0): scott31337
VisceraEyes (0): NocturneMage, NocturneMage
disinformation (0): FarahBlackwing
Not Voting (1): The Shining, MoosyDoosy
It looks like MoosyDoosy will be facing the court-martial for treason in leading the vote with 3 votes!
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Look, I have a fair amount of experience with this game, and I can tell who's going to be a wagon and who isn't.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick and tired of trying to explain things to people who aren't listening.
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On November 18 2015 04:33 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:26 geript wrote:On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.
##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.
Ritoky plz read this i do remember breshke asking questions and not driving forward with them.....
He also never readjusted his reads, only slightly moved his lynch order and basically never put out any town reads, besides some light town leans on eversince, geript and you. For geript and you he even said you were both capable of playing like this as mafia.
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i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high.
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On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high.
Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing...
By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad.
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On November 18 2015 04:35 Trfel wrote:
Look, I have a fair amount of experience with this game, and I can tell who's going to be a wagon and who isn't.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick and tired of trying to explain things to people who aren't listening.
This is a pointless post, nobody pushed scott, even though he is scummy. Moos was the preferred lynch. The case on breshke is good after looking at the filter.
Geript didn't push off scott he pushed off moos.
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On November 18 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high. Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing... By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad.
Dick move analysis I don't think applies here.
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On November 18 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high. Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing... By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad.
You don't have to fake something to use it to your advantage in the game, for example literal 0 people are skeptical of ever cuz of his/her surgery. Probably not faked and regardless of alignment being used to his/her advantage. And yeah his filter is shite. Am going through breshke's now.
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Just let the vig cop fgure moos (who I think is town) and scott out (who I think might be scum).
I think its the right thing to do and just vote breshke out who has done scummy things as well.
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On November 18 2015 04:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high. Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing... By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad. Dick move analysis I don't think applies here.
Hmm... probably using it wrong then. Faking the cousin with MS thing would be a dick move though, right? xD
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