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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:41 GMT
#762
On November 17 2015 15:40 geript wrote:
@Farah. You're Damdred's wife right? If so, how would he read you this game if he were playing?

Farah could you answer this when you get time.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:54 GMT
#768
On November 18 2015 02:45 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 02:41 geript wrote:
On November 17 2015 15:40 geript wrote:
@Farah. You're Damdred's wife right? If so, how would he read you this game if he were playing?

Farah could you answer this when you get time.


I am pretty confident that he would be able to read me as town as he is quite familiar with how I reason things out from having little to no information, rather than coming from a place of perfect knowledge.

Not what would he read you, HOW would he read you?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:18 GMT
#775
Interesting. No on has voted for me, ritoky and eversince. The last being semi surprising.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:40 GMT
#780
I had time to read filters and compare to notes.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:47 GMT
#781
I have a few more minutes before I start work. But shits a bit crazy with 3-3-lots of solo. We need to consolidate on someone. Preferably Breshke but consolidation is key.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 18:49 GMT
#784
When I find a meta read on people I like and is accurate I keep it for later. Like Trfel looking bad early on. I just track those useful heuristics for later games.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:08 GMT
#786
I really wish VE or ritoky were here.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:21 GMT
#789
Yup
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:22 GMT
#792
I've got maybe 10 minutes. But I'd like people to switch to Breshke. We need 1-2 vote consolidation regardless. But idk if that will happen.

But basically if you think I'm town, then join me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:24 GMT
#795
On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.

Or use your head and see moosy had the votes before and I'm basically the only person who thinks he's town for any actual sort of reason.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#798
On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.

Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.

Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.

##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.

Ritoky plz read this
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:32 GMT
#808
Can people stop thinking about if I would or wouldn't do X as Mafia? The answer is yes. If it puts me and/or my team in better position, then I wouldn't ever hesitate to do it. Just figure out if I'm town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 19:39 GMT
#817
On November 18 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high.


Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing...
By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad.

Dick move analysis I don't think applies here.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 22:48 GMT
#878
I'm really pissed at you for not listening.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 22:54 GMT
#881
On November 18 2015 07:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 07:48 geript wrote:
I'm really pissed at you for not listening.

who? me?

Everyone. I made good points and they just got left for no reason. Especially when I got up early to read and look at things and people went off some crap from Trfel who BTW still hasn't posted anything good yet.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 22:54 GMT
#882
I'm not wasting my lunch break on this anymore.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 18 2015 05:31 GMT
#914
On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.

So let's talk about this again Trfel. Explain this shit right now. Because quite frankly you've literally make a bunch of cases that are a combination of "full of shit," "semantics over literally nothing," or "flat out wrong." Plus, you've diverted away from a good lynch in favor of a mediocre lynch for completely bs reasons.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 18 2015 05:39 GMT
#918
On November 18 2015 04:23 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Look at geript's read on scott31337. It's all association, there is no response to the actual case on him. Geript is avoiding defending scott31337's play, because he knows that it can't be done.

All association? No. I quite frankly referred to this post + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote:
I apologize for my last post - I got enough energy to notepad. I'm town.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:19 Trfel wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:17 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Because he did something similar to this last game we played as town, and from what I understand have been informed on he tries a bit harder as scum doesn't roll over.
The problem is that he knows this, and he knows that people will say this......

Ugh, this is so frustrating.


Weak.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?

If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine.


It's mostly less active people.

Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry.

FF still being lazy so would lynch.

Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage.

I also am waiting for VE to be around again.



This is the Breshke I know I thought from his first post - He's thinking about the game and townie thoughts.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Honestly Farah's filter is pretty nice to look at. I mean, the lynch list is kinda butt because I am leaning town on bresh and am fairly certain that I'm town but being wrong is allowed.

Is there a case on farah or anything that I'm blatantly missing?


arr..

And my virtual townleans have not said anything (Geript, etc.) So I think I'm fooled at least by one.

I'm going to sleep - at Page 30 of Ritoky's wall of text. I've had a lot to drink and calling it a night. I'll continue from there.

Trfel's been trying but like I said - could be his scummy cases he's done it before

Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it.

Geript fell the fuck off once he got townleaned

NM has been playing his towngame

I'll be up in about 12 hours and bitch that I'm not online and posting. Well suck it I was busy helping out my cousin that I just found out had MS.
which is a not too terrible summary of things to that point. I in no way even made an association case against voting for Scott; I specifically stated that Trfel's vote didn't seem bussy or protected. And for not responding to the case:
On November 18 2015 00:55 Trfel wrote:
##vote scott31337

I won't be able to catch up by the deadline. But scott31337 hasn't shown critical thinking, and his activity has been pretty awful. This post shows a lack of critical thinking in particular, he's trying to say stuff, trying to make an argument, but all he really says is that MoosyDoosy is town because he's town, and because he did the same thing last game as town (which obviously does not make him town).

Scott31337 still hasn't taken a stance on me, despite saying that he would many hours ago. Given the lack of original reads and thinking in his posts, I find him getting so upset at MoosyDoosy's play difficult to believe.

What the fuck is to respond to here that wasn't already in my summary. I noted that the above quoted scott post was decent which negates the critical thinking thing. Scott's activity being awful is by no means alignment indicative. Trfel's jumping on him for 1 post that's lacked critical thinking. On that run Trfel should absolutely be lynched because Trfel hasn't had 1 good post that requires actual thought. Trfel is literally just picking at minor things that don't matter and aren't alignment indicative. Scott not taking a stance on Trfel is literally irrelevant.
Trfel's "case" on scott isn't a case. It's not even a set of good points against scott.

Trfel should 100% be shot tonight period.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 18 2015 05:40 GMT
#920
On November 18 2015 04:24 ritoky wrote:
i think you're town, but w/o reading i don't really have reason to think breshke is mafia outside of not TRing him...where is the reasons?

This is pretty odd because in a short time frame a town buddy will generally sheep a good player who's a townread to vote for someone who isn't a town read.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 18 2015 05:43 GMT
#923
On November 18 2015 04:29 Trfel wrote:
Like, just look at the way that scott31337 treats me and geript differently.

That does not come from town.

He doesn't even address the argument that I brought up against VisceraEyes, he just says that he needs to figure out my alignment. He doesn't even seem to consider my argument important to determining my alignment, he doesn't talk about it at all.

He has actually done zero this game. Zero.

This is complete bullshit. How scott treats Trfel versus how scott treats easy and early townread geript is completely irrelevant to Scott's alignment in all cases. Trfel's VE case was bad; there's a good reason why what I said about VE stuck more than that "case" over nothing.
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