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On November 22 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2015 09:44 disformation wrote:On November 22 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
This whole game makes me want to lynch ff and trfel sorta. Its hard I currently feel like Trfel has pulled so many strange plays, I won't be able to figure out his alignment unless he flips...  Current PoE is: Trfel, FF, ritoky, Onegu Unless The Shining or NM have played a very good game and managed to pull some wool over my eyes. Will probably read their filters again tomorrow to make sure. Could the game be stupid and really simple with a Breshke/Trfel/Onegu team? I mean everyone else(except me) has good sized filters and points where it looks they're trying to solve the game. When the game is this hard, it kinda makes you wonder if it is actually this hard. Where is Trfel at with reads? I just ate dinner, feeling kinda lazy. FF is still his scum? Who is the other?
I think it was FF/disformation/Eversince and he said he feels like he is missing someone and will look at stuff again.
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On November 22 2015 10:01 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote:On November 22 2015 09:44 disformation wrote:On November 22 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
This whole game makes me want to lynch ff and trfel sorta. Its hard I currently feel like Trfel has pulled so many strange plays, I won't be able to figure out his alignment unless he flips... Current PoE is: Trfel, FF, ritoky, Onegu Unless The Shining or NM have played a very good game and managed to pull some wool over my eyes. Will probably read their filters again tomorrow to make sure. Could the game be stupid and really simple with a Breshke/Trfel/Onegu team? I mean everyone else(except me) has good sized filters and points where it looks they're trying to solve the game. When the game is this hard, it kinda makes you wonder if it is actually this hard. Where is Trfel at with reads? I just ate dinner, feeling kinda lazy. FF is still his scum? Who is the other? I think it was FF/disformation/Eversince and he said he feels like he is missing someone and will look at stuff again.
On November 22 2015 01:44 Trfel wrote:
Hi.
I've got plans for today. If scum shoots me, we'll all be super happy anyway.
I guess Damdred is just town. Which leaves me to a POE list of Fecalfeast, disformation, and Onegu.
There's quite likely at least one hole in my POE list, some of the points raised against ritoky were pretty good.
I'll take a look this evening, hopefully.
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Hey, guys I just remembered something(s)...
On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him.
On November 18 2015 14:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:23 Trfel wrote:On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up. Look at geript's read on scott31337. It's all association, there is no response to the actual case on him. Geript is avoiding defending scott31337's play, because he knows that it can't be done. All association? No. I quite frankly referred to this post + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote:I apologize for my last post - I got enough energy to notepad. I'm town. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 09:19 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 09:17 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Because he did something similar to this last game we played as town, and from what I understand have been informed on he tries a bit harder as scum doesn't roll over. The problem is that he knows this, and he knows that people will say this...... Ugh, this is so frustrating. Weak. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch. Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. This is the Breshke I know I thought from his first post - He's thinking about the game and townie thoughts. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 09:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Honestly Farah's filter is pretty nice to look at. I mean, the lynch list is kinda butt because I am leaning town on bresh and am fairly certain that I'm town but being wrong is allowed.
Is there a case on farah or anything that I'm blatantly missing? arr.. And my virtual townleans have not said anything (Geript, etc.) So I think I'm fooled at least by one. I'm going to sleep - at Page 30 of Ritoky's wall of text. I've had a lot to drink and calling it a night. I'll continue from there. Trfel's been trying but like I said - could be his scummy cases he's done it before Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it. Geript fell the fuck off once he got townleaned NM has been playing his towngame I'll be up in about 12 hours and bitch that I'm not online and posting. Well suck it I was busy helping out my cousin that I just found out had MS. which is a not too terrible summary of things to that point. I in no way even made an association case against voting for Scott; I specifically stated that Trfel's vote didn't seem bussy or protected. And for not responding to the case: Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 00:55 Trfel wrote:##vote scott31337I won't be able to catch up by the deadline. But scott31337 hasn't shown critical thinking, and his activity has been pretty awful. This post shows a lack of critical thinking in particular, he's trying to say stuff, trying to make an argument, but all he really says is that MoosyDoosy is town because he's town, and because he did the same thing last game as town (which obviously does not make him town). Scott31337 still hasn't taken a stance on me, despite saying that he would many hours ago. Given the lack of original reads and thinking in his posts, I find him getting so upset at MoosyDoosy's play difficult to believe. What the fuck is to respond to here that wasn't already in my summary. I noted that the above quoted scott post was decent which negates the critical thinking thing. Scott's activity being awful is by no means alignment indicative. Trfel's jumping on him for 1 post that's lacked critical thinking. On that run Trfel should absolutely be lynched because Trfel hasn't had 1 good post that requires actual thought. Trfel is literally just picking at minor things that don't matter and aren't alignment indicative. Scott not taking a stance on Trfel is literally irrelevant. Trfel's "case" on scott isn't a case. It's not even a set of good points against scott. Trfel should 100% be shot tonight period.
On November 18 2015 15:24 geript wrote:
I'm going to sleep but i really think Trfel and Breshke are really good vigi shots/lunches.
This was all N1...
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On November 22 2015 10:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I sed dat stuf after geript ded but ok
Huh? Lemme see.
On November 20 2015 07:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will kill bresh or trfel because geript confirmed the mafia kill makes it more likely he was offed for his reads, since mafia knows we have a vet* they wouldn't worry about a medic dodge.
*assuming farah's claim was real
Okay, you are right. Sry.
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On November 22 2015 10:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also stop making new posts it's distracting me
=D
Oh right I was supposed to do two wall posts. Will go to work on that.
You also get a townie brownie cause I like the album you posted.
Gut feeling right now says we should totally lynch Trfel.
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On November 22 2015 07:45 Damdred wrote:
This is where I am starting the day at
Damdrrd- confirmed
Shining- town
Now lets go from there I want each person to play a game with me, tell me why I should town read you. And who you think is most likely town (one person) and why.
Okay. Why is this disformation dude town?
+ Early votes on confirmed Mafia Roleblocker Breshke on both D1 and D2.
+ Reads are not set in stone. Willing to reconsider his reads on people. Willing to look at stuff from different angles.
+ Very active and willing to put serious time into solving this mess.
Got a few more ideas, but those are kinda wifom...
Most town? - Damdred
+ uncc blue.
+ Also like in NSM13 he has this logic/voice of reason thing going on. Kinda hard to explain. xD
Runner up
The Shining or NocturneMage. Want to reread NocturneMage's filter tomorrow to make sure I haven't overlooked something, but otherwise I think he is the townies dude.
Getting super tired. Will write more stuff on a runner up tomorrow after rereading NocturneMage's filter. I want to finish the legwork on the vet claim reactions first. =p
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Part 1 again:+ Show Spoiler +1) Farah hard claiming blue: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=53#1045
NM: "This doesn't feel right." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=53#1049On November 19 2015 07:00 NocturneMage wrote:
given timing, I think she's trying to draw out a blue folks. This is something I learnt in newbie 13/14 anyhow. Discuss. On November 19 2015 08:07 NocturneMage wrote:on mobile. this is beyond irritating. Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Read what I wrote and apply it. Information is king withholding information when you are a glorified vt now is anti-town especially the leathery out wait the more mafia can mess with town. no. this is not entirely true. I learnt in nsm14 (the host in the qt mentioned this, unless people here want to say rsoultin is a bad player but somehow I don't think that's the case???) that wifom analysis is powerful. if you are scum and you find a blue, it gives it an easier way for scum to hide because killing blues generally means there's no excuse for certain people to live or not. additionally the real vet isn't going to claim with 46 hours left in the cycle, piss off, come back and keep saying never lynch an uncounterclaimed blue. you aren't finding scum and your methods don't push town agenda forward in any form. additionally in a best case scenario town can find the roleblocker first and an unclaimed veteran represents currently a 14% chance of stopping kp. unless I've fucked up analysis - I find no town motivation for the way you've approached this. I find enough justification for lynching you. answer me this farah - why did you claim with 46 hours left (an hour ago) in the cycle and why aren't you finding scum? in your method you wanted to know fecalfeast was vig or not, he said he wasn't. so where does that get you? what is your purpose? you aren't saying dick all on that. On November 19 2015 08:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky is correct. Even if the claim feels like buttcheeks it's still uncc'd The only other thing I can think of is wait one cycle and if she is still alive lynch her. I don't understand how or why she isn't moving forward in her world view. Anyways looking at other people in the meantime since we don't win until all three are dead. ##unvotefuck this is irritating.
ritoky:On November 19 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:00 The Shining wrote:On November 19 2015 06:51 NocturneMage wrote:On November 19 2015 06:43 Breshke wrote:On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that. I do not like that post from Farah at all. This is day 2, not mylo. I might be somewhat new here, but from all the games I've obsed, I can think of a few decent reasons for the vig waiting to claim. I can't see any town motivation personally for trying to openly out the vig or any blue role for that matter. The Eversince comment is a bad one because you don't know for sure if she's reading and just choosing not to post for medical/whatever and may have just slipped a PM. Who knows. The ritoky comment is bad in the event someone tinfoiled (is that the right English word) geript and scum went bluehunting on VE, which would implicate a veteran, someone who might know VE's play to take a gander on him. You cannot eliminate that possibility. The ritoky comment is good, IMO, because he hard towned both VE and geript iirc. So why would he vig either of them? And his last post saying vigging either was dumb makes it moot since its pretty obvs he isn't the Vig then except it implies she knows VE was the vigi shot and not geript. TMI as fuck. On November 19 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:00 NocturneMage wrote:
given timing, I think she's trying to draw out a blue folks. This is something I learnt in newbie 13/14 anyhow. Discuss. it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. if she's the vigi there's no point to say anything but "i'm the vigi". if she is the doctor she just signed her death warrant. if she's veteran there's a guaranteed roleblocker and in most setups that counters vet protection so she is dead anyway unless we lynch exactly the RB today. if she's mafia being obtuse about it is less encouraging of a cc from blues, but she isn't an auto-lynch atm so claiming this early is.....idk it all just confuses me. On November 19 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote:eh she might be blue..... On November 19 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.
I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.
Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong? she is a new player, they are more prone to get ants in their pants and claim stupidly or too early than to make a fake claim that they know will get them into a screaming match w/ 40+ hours left in the day....unless you're me and fake claim cop your 2nd game ever. On November 19 2015 08:32 ritoky wrote:
the only way i am lynching farah today is if someone cc's her or i hard read someone as doctor. there's literally no other reason to lynch her.
trfelOn November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.
I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.
Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong? On November 19 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. I can't see this coming from a person who would fakeclaim here as town. That settles that. On November 19 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote:Ugh, I hate being sick, it makes it so hard for me to think T.T I'm really, really considering lynching FarahBlackwing here. The only reason for her to claim this early is that she doesn't have enough time to properly defend herself. Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:53 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'll head this off now probably not enough time to fight off a snowball.
Hard claiming blue. So she's really busy, but she spent time trying to guess who the vigilante is (of all things) instead of responding to the case? Instead of trying to find mafia? Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Read what I wrote and apply it. Information is king withholding information when you are a glorified vt now is anti-town especially the leathery out wait the more mafia can mess with town. This is in no way a justification for the time spent. To me, it almost feels like FarahBlackwing's attempts to find the vigilante were to figure out what the thread influence would look like post-claim, which is useful to know if she's mafia. Especially if she's mafia trying to do something like fakeclaim. Fecalfeast doesn't have a large amount of thread presence, and imagining for a moment that he became confirmed town by claiming vigilante, I don't think that much would change. Meaning that mafia thread influence would be maximized, encouraging a fakeclaim. On November 19 2015 08:25 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
##Vote farahblackwing
Lets ride Sure. ##vote FarahBlackwing On November 19 2015 08:38 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky is correct. Even if the claim feels like buttcheeks it's still uncc'd But when it's this bad? And when the person claiming is being this malicious? And right after we saw MoosyDoosy avoid a lynch through martyring? This simply isn't town play. Giving up a power role for this is not a trade that should even need to happen.
The ShiningOn November 19 2015 07:11 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:02 NocturneMage wrote:
wait he hard townread both? interesting, I stand corrected on that then. Ya in his post trashing my EoD post he said him geript and you were all town and "everyone know this" implying a hard townread. He also had geript on a town list before then. But it is interesting that Farrah knows VE was the Vig shot and hard claimed blue. If she were the Vig I don't think she'd be speculating on who the vig is, unless like NM said it was for a gotcha! Cc play. But its too early in the day and risky for it to be a scum play to try and save herself or draw out a blue. Idk I'm confused on this one.
disformationOn November 19 2015 07:45 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:44 ritoky wrote:On November 19 2015 07:38 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy. I'm catching up sorry I had a lot of business to take care of today. I am not the vig can you make me fall in love with you today. i gave you a town pass cuz you courted me and were funny, but you're starting to make your way toward my PoE at a quicker and quicker rate. so plz defecate town rainbows if you're town. Since farah is currently an uncced blue, I would very much like this, too. On November 19 2015 10:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 10:37 Trfel wrote:
How did you arrive at FarahBlackwing being town? tinfoil + uncced blue Other great theories: She and MD are a scumteam and are competing on how hard they bullshit town into oblivion. On November 19 2015 10:48 disformation wrote:
Oh, crap.
What if eversince is the real vet and not around to cc?
Also going to stop ranting and grasping at straws like a madmen. Sry for cluttering up the thread...
MDOn November 19 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay Farah is scum lmao. There's little reason to believe her claim. She literally acted scummy as fuck during N1. Like what point is there in doing that as veteran? Best case scenario she's kept around and her role is useless. Worst case scenario vigi shoots her and both roles are wasted. Like hello? On November 19 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm going to look into Breshke and Trfel. Farah is still scummy as fuck but it would be best to keep her around for one more day and see what she does especially if she's un cc'd. On November 19 2015 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:23 The Shining wrote:On November 19 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
##Vote farahblackwing
Lets ride Moosy pt2? No one can Moosy like me. XD She's cute but I can understand why she did what she did if she's actually town. @FarahBlackwing, answer this one question and I decide whether I want you dead today or not. Why did you claim this early? On November 19 2015 08:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why were you okay with being killed day 1 as vet, farah? Yeah, this is the biggest problem as I pointed out. She acted so fucking scummy that her role was essentially useless. On November 19 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 08:27 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Either lynch me or believe me I will be as obstinate as possible until one or the other happens. This is coming from the player that says I play like shit in games I sign up for lmao. Oh wellz, my vote's staying where it is.
FF:On November 19 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky is correct. Even if the claim feels like buttcheeks it's still uncc'd
On November 19 2015 12:40 Tictock wrote:
Effective immediately, FarahBlackwing will be replaced by Damdred Can do this part when I am back at home later.
Part2:
Starting from:
On November 19 2015 12:40 Tictock wrote:
Effective immediately, FarahBlackwing will be replaced by Damdred
disformation
"damdy. vet." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=60#1187
NM
"If Farah's claim was true, and without a counterclaim, we have to proceed as if it is true, it was a poor decision, but at least Damdred has a strategy/conditions for when/if/how the vig should claim. I understand it." http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=60#1188
Trfel
"don't know what to think about Damdred yet, but it's probably best to give him some time."
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=61#1204
On November 20 2015 07:50 Trfel wrote:
Ritoky, how stupid do you think I am?
Do you really think that as mafia with a ton of momentum, I'd go into Day 2 and push an un-cc'd blue? Just to back off when they replace out? Instead of all of the other fairly easy targets in the thread?
Like, why would mafia ever do this?
FarahBlackwing's play made no sense at all, I couldn't possibly see it coming from town. I still can't. If Damdred is town, hopefully mafia will kill him soon.
On November 20 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
Like, I'm pouring so much time into this game. During my exam week, when I said I'd be busy.
And now I'm being lynched because "geript said..." When geript didn't do a single towny thing all game long?
I don't care that geript's flipped town, that DOES NOT make him right. AS PROVEN BY MY ROLE PM.
Use a bit of sense. so who's mafia then? why did you back off damdred if his slot's play made no sense? I always give replacements a day pass. There's absolutely no reason not to do so. Often times, a replacing player gives a new perspective to the slot's alignment that I simply couldn't see before. I keep looking at Breshke's play, and it seems to be getting worse and worse. The big thing that stands out are the unfulfilled activity promises, he keeps vanishing. But this is exam time for him, he barely signed up to play anyway. Activity aside, his play feels very genuine and there's a natural progression to the way that he pushed his scum reads on Day 1. MoosyDoosy has seemed quite towny with the push on FarahBlackwing, but since Damdred's replacement MoosyDoosy has been pretty awful. The claim included. Shooting someone for information is terrible. But I don't see any reason for him to claim there as mafia, he wasn't really suspected by anyone and the bad claim can only hurt him in the end. By process of elimination, I'm down to disformation, Fecalfeast, Damdred, and Eversince. The last two of which are terrible lynches today for reasons previously mentioned.
So not many posts directly referring to the vet claim after damdred replaces in. So the complete reaction of each player:
NM does't believe the claim at first but backs off after a while and concludes that an uncc blue is an uncc blue.
ritoky is a bit sceptical at first but arrives at the conclusion that the claim is legit.
trefel goes from "nah this is not a fakeclaim" to "lynch with fire" to "nah I'll give damdred one day" but "I still don't believe it" and puts damdred into his PoE...
The Shining "I don't know."
disformation "well she is uncc" into "sure damdy can be my vet all day long"
MD "lynch with fire" into unvote
FF "well she is uncc"
For the record: I looked at posts until the FF case by trfel here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=65#1281
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On November 22 2015 10:56 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2015 10:50 The Shining wrote:
I could probably get on that lynch, tbh, if I do end up agreeing that the too scummy to be scum stuff actually makes him scum. One thing I noticed in his filter was his change in tones as he got mad/frustrated. He was one of the hardest pushes onto Scott and even admitted after N1 that he was wrong on 3 of his scumread(VE,Scott, geript). But after saying he shouldn't lead town because he can't lynch scum(which is true, he didn't lynch Bresh d2), he gets onto Fecal and starts getting all huffy and puffy about no one listening to him. He even tried to shift the d1 lynch blame onto everyone else for following him.
That's 4 incorrect reads Trfel has had and 3 at the time when he tried to push Fecal. You would think he'd be a little hesitant and less confident after being wrong 3x, no? Why so confident to the point that we are all bad for not listening to him?
Also his read progression on disformation seemed odd. He defended disfo early, even claiming he had the longest filter up to a point in the game, and didn't discuss disfo much at all afterwards. There was his push into Farrah. Then disfo ends up on his "look into" list with Fecal. But no real discussion of disfo, just a case on Fecal. And disfo is now on his poe list with Onegu and FF. But he never really discussed the ES/Onegu slot except to say ES was impossible to read. Yeah I think you're town. Trfel/ritoky/onegu wins the game?
I am currently inclined to think so, too. Will go filter diving tomorrow to see, if I overlooked something.
Damdred: Would you still lynch FF? If so: why?
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On November 22 2015 11:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
I hate to base it all on this but NM's scum game has 3 pages of filter and he was lynched day 3, this game has 11 and his game as cop had 14 after night 4
On November 20 2015 05:05 disformation wrote:
NocturneMage Look at his scum game in NSM13. Interactions: no. solving the case: no. activity: no. This game? Interactions: yes. solving the case: trying to, so yes. activity: very. Town.
On November 22 2015 00:46 disformation wrote:
NocturneMage Him being scum is pretty tinfoil to me. If he is scum he would have improved his scum game by like 2000% since NSM13. He is also very active and trying to figure out/look at things from different angles. That being said I will probably read his filter later when I am back, just to make sure nothing slipped through my fingers.
His scum game was NSM13. I was in that game, too. 
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Currently to tired to read more filters and stuff, too. Will also go to bed soon since it is nearly 4 am here.
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On November 22 2015 12:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
4am only? Wuss.
It's only 7pm here
Yeah, I had problems sleeping this week cause I was constantly thinking about this game and/or checking my phone when I went to bed and tried to sleep.
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On November 22 2015 12:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2015 12:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
4am only? Wuss.
It's only 7pm here Yeah, I had problems sleeping this week cause I was constantly thinking about this game and/or checking my phone when I went to bed and tried to sleep.
I also tend to get out of bed earlier, since I need to check the thread, at least via phone. And then I see an interesting post and am kinda awake...
On the other hand I was not getting out off the bed for like 10-13 hours last week, so I guess that is an improvement? xD
Eh well, I'll stop ranting about my healthy and completely normal sleep schedule and go to bed. CU after my good afternoon coffee.
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On November 22 2015 11:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Man I love this album.
Noctournemage have you played any gmaes on other sites? Is your mafia database entry up to date?
- Hide Spoiler [NocturneMage] -
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XIII Mafia Godfather Lynched Day 3
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly Town Cop Killed Night 4
Just remembered. He said this pregame:
On October 22 2015 23:13 NocturneMage wrote:Brilliant. Now I can satisfy my agenda of getting Fidei rightfully policy lynched. I have my reasons and my reasons are good  /in (this is my third game, so not open yet) actually fuck it, let's just start now.... ##vote Fidei86
Added bold for stuff.
n8n8 
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On November 22 2015 14:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2015 09:20 disformation wrote:
Damdred you still around? Was the legwork from earlier what you were looking for? Any conclusions from that?
I found Trfel going from "Nah this is not a fake claim" "to lets lynch her" a bit confusing after farah's claim. Yeah, learn to read. Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.
I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.
Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong? Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. I can't see this coming from a person who would fakeclaim here as town. That settles that. The "as town" part.
Ah crap. Sry. So you were completely not buying the claim at all for quite some time. Gotcha.
On November 22 2015 13:48 ritoky wrote:
So basically we lynch trfel, if trfel flips mafia then it clears NM. We have 2 lynches left, we lynch onegu and disfo and win the game.....wait does this work in the inverse?
trfel flips town, we lynch onegu and we are in mylo picking between disfo and NM...but in that world NM is a lot more likely than disfo.
yeah so it basically feels like trfel + disfo or onegu + NM.
i think i solved it, unless my read on shining is actually good, which it is shit.
Why would trfel flipping mafia clear NM? Cause NM voted trfel D2?
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On November 23 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what to do here.
Trfel/ff/ritoky/oneg
I want to town read ritoky and ff. Especially ff at this point.
I mean it could just be easy but I'm not sure. I'm tempted to lynch Trfel but oneg will just be a flip tommorow to..
Yeah, that is basically where I am at too.
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On November 23 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote:
Hey disf want to know something funny from that ritoky post?
Sure, go ahead.
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Hmm... I thought it was purely PoE... lemme check something:
On November 21 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close.
On November 21 2015 10:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 10:20 The Shining wrote:On November 21 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close. I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was. Normally it is a scum tell yes. But he is a new player right? And haven't like all other new players subbed out of this game so this is basically a 0 newbie game? I can see being swayed. Idk, maybe...it is just hard for me to see many new players have the gusto to suggest lynching themselves immediately. And he was very quick onto breshke...also kinda quick off too.
On November 22 2015 08:33 ritoky wrote:
getting ready to head to the airport to pick up family.
yes breshke and trfel have both played enough games to understand bussing is more advantageous than not in a game where the mod tells you "0 investigations" from moment 1. i would expect them to act accordingly. i am willing to admit it isn't a perfect read that guarantees trfel is town; but i like my unorthodox reads.
i think my read on shining might just be dogshit and he might just be town and i might just have a terrible read on him. disfo is nearly conf town from vote perspective. damdred is blue. i am town. so pretty much i need to find a town between trfel, onegu, NM, and ff and then we just lynch the rest and win the game.
currently i think ff is most town, so onegu/nm/trfel wins the game.
On November 22 2015 13:44 ritoky wrote:
to me the game is very simple. and i think you guys are doing all this crazy shit overcomplicating it.
i am town -> most town all game, lynched mafia, who am i bussing? (self-metametametametameta)
damdred is town -> blue
ff is town -> tone + willing to be PoE
shining is town -> my read is shit, confirmed it was shit, accepting others
lynch these people and we win or get to mylo:
tfel
onegu
remainder:
NM -> lots of effort and cases, bizarre trfel post after flip, rando sudden push on me, not reading my responses, probably not mafia if trfel mafia though.
disfo -> procedurally should be town for vote thing, but PoE + opinions move like water
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Quote 1 & 2 he says I am probably town.
Third quote he gives a reason for Trfel to not be scum. Puts him in PoE regardless. Also drops his scum read on FF.
Uses PoE to say it is either Trfel + Onegu or one of those + NM or Me
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On November 23 2015 01:03 Damdred wrote:
Let's talk about Trfel.
Tell me disf why do you think Trfel could be town maybe? Any reason
Trfel is so confusing to me this game.
He is pretty stubborn in a lot of things. Like him not believing the vet claim. His read on Breshke.
And with that he has taken a lot of stances, that would be very bad for Scum to take. You know like hard defending Breshke for whole two days. Or picking a fight with geript.
I kinda get his frustrated tone in some posts, I would be frustrated as hell if I was wrong on so many things.
So for me he is either town having a bad game or he is scum going for some wifom stuff.
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On November 23 2015 01:15 Damdred wrote:
So what do you think of eod1? Do you think Breshke could of been lynched?
Since geript was not there to push it and neither me nor farah were pushing it nearly hard enough either. I don't think so. That leaves the question: why this overreaction from Trfel. *sigh*
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