[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 91

On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....

- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point

- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....

- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game

- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before

So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy.

On October 26 2015 06:34 gumshoe wrote:


You assume Gb is bieng totally level headed / : as a scum player, I personally feel tremendous fear to do things that directly contribute to my death or the death of my teamates. We can deduce that Gb was emotional, which is not impossible to be as scum (especially when your actually in a losing position, as opposed to where Rayn was) off his outburst in thread. When the Slam wagon switched, unless Gb is a tremedous actor immense releif would have rolled over him. To then have right away have the peace of mind to recognize your own powerlessness and do something that directly hurts your cause is something I do not think scum Gb could accomplish on his own, given his mental state, and I doubt he would be coached to do by his team.

That and I read him as a fuck up townie, not a desperate scummer / : but thats more a feel thing that comes from lots of games of bieng a fuck up townie than anything else, so its harder to elaborate on.

On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:


marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different.

And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter.

And no, I'm not mafia.

On October 26 2015 08:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you something, Xatalos.

Will a tunneled townie forget about his scumread one day later?

Because Vivax called Yamato scum for being inactive (in less than 24 hours in the game). When yamato turned against me, Vivax gave him a very weird townread (it felt like a joke, Vivax said it was an actual townread).

Yamato is inactive now. Vivax never talks about him anymore. He only supports my lynch when people talk about it.

I can never see a world where Vivax isn't scum here. Never.

Especially now that yamato's inactivity IS indeed scummy, and he is doing nothing, and NOW he's fitting his scum meta.

On October 26 2015 08:03 Chromatically wrote:

You're kind of telling a story here, and it's possible this story is actually true if you assume that GB is a very very emotional player and was very very scared by the possibility of the wagon being directed back to him and that he would just be unable to say anything to defend Slam for fear of being lynched.

The simpler alternative is that GB just threw out a statement about Slam without worrying about it, knowing that it would have zero effect on the wagon on Slam and even less effect on the wagon on him.

On October 26 2015 08:03 Chromatically wrote:

You're kind of telling a story here, and it's possible this story is actually true if you assume that GB is a very very emotional player and was very very scared by the possibility of the wagon being directed back to him and that he would just be unable to say anything to defend Slam for fear of being lynched.

The simpler alternative is that GB just threw out a statement about Slam without worrying about it, knowing that it would have zero effect on the wagon on Slam and even less effect on the wagon on him.

On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:


Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn.

I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now.

On October 26 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:


This would be true if I didn't repeatedly say Slam is a guy that can be better read on later days. I'm sure that I said it at least once in my list post.

And I said that also in a game where I played with slam. The most recent one. I forgot the name.

Slam (although people say slam is unreadable, I usually can read him better on later days so I don't really want to think about him on day1)

On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:


Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't.

I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now.

I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit.

I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn.

I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch.

Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia.

I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me.

Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are.

I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town.

I don't know if I forgot someone.

On October 26 2015 08:11 Xatalos wrote:
After some consideration, I revoted for Onegu. Read this again:

- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game

He simply doesn't care about catching scum, at all. And he's contradicting his own reads and offering messed up arguments that he can't answer for when probed.

LYNCH ONEGU!

I think I'd like to give rayn and GB another day, perhaps.

yamato seems like a fine lynch too.