• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:35
CET 09:35
KST 17:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT24Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0226LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
A new season just kicks off CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2152 users

[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 89

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 87 88 89 90 91 196 Next
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 25 2015 20:05 GMT
#1761
The part where rayn argues with the host doesn't sit right with me either, true. But if gas town rayn where has he been thus whole time?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:08 GMT
#1762
On October 25 2015 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Finishing up dinner shortly, then I'll read up. Taking requests for analysis


empty promises
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:08 GMT
#1763
On October 25 2015 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.


reading but not trying to find scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 25 2015 20:09 GMT
#1764
##unvote

Fuck it let's give him another day to shape up

I may re vote him when I'm home tonight but that argument with the host just don't sit right with me
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 25 2015 20:10 GMT
#1765
On October 26 2015 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Finishing up dinner shortly, then I'll read up. Taking requests for analysis


empty promises


Still eating dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 25 2015 20:11 GMT
#1766
It's a big dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:12 GMT
#1767
On October 26 2015 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:
The part where rayn argues with the host doesn't sit right with me either, true. But if gas town rayn where has he been thus whole time?


Rage quitting, what else? Scum Rayn was in a fantastic position, he had Marv at his back, he couldve shot xata and taken the win out of the Rayn train, and just used meta as a reason for why Xata got shot and then he coulda just hustled like he tends to do as scum. At the very least a scum Rayn could've entirely prevented the possibility of a day 2 lynch of on himself.

Town Rayn just sees us as either stupid, or trolls. He has no desire to help us and at this point he wants to get mislynched because it will prove his point. I think for now it would be best to treat him as a jester, if a lynch on yamato or hopeless fails, then we can return to this retardation. But till then, show some respect/disgust for Rayn and leave the true troll alone to sulk under his brige.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:12 GMT
#1768
On October 26 2015 02:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:04 Xatalos wrote:
Are you suggesting Vivax is scum then, GB? Or what? Even then that wouldn't make much sense unless he was scum with you, and then your post wouldn't make much sense.


I'm not suggesting, I'm DECLARING he is scum. I've never said he wasn't?


your declarations mean so much to me atm. oh my god, i feel so compelled. the case. the effort. the reads you have given. how could i ever deny the truth you are spouting?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 25 2015 20:16 GMT
#1769
Get off your high horse rit. Let's try to be modestly friendly to the 50% of the game that's actually playing ok
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:20 GMT
#1770
sorry, i thought i was good for a moment. gotta remember my place.

dunno, people aren't really giving me reasons to lynch outside the list i made.

gb, rayn, hopeless, yamato.

3 of which have basically quit this phase and 1 of which is very clearly reading but doing nothing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 25 2015 20:23 GMT
#1771
Hmmmm.....

I think I saw rayn explode as scum once though, and he was Vig shot N1 as scum. marv was his teammate and gave up after that. I think rayn was trying to emulate his EMO town meta there, so it's possible the same is happening here... Then again, I agree that antagonizing the host isn't really a reasonable scum play in any form (not reasonable as either alignment, but less so as scum when you're responsible to your team).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:25 GMT
#1772
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 25 2015 20:29 GMT
#1773
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#1774
On October 26 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.


I established that mafia Rayn can play objectively, then I proved that his play this game was objectively bad as scum, I showed how he could have easily put himself in a good position and instead shat the bed.

This isnt Rayn faking emotion as scum, because scum has no reason to fake emotion when they have better options/obvius. Rayn is just playing emotionally which scum have no reason to do because they are happy with the outcome of the lynch.

1)If you want to boil actual thought and effort down to wifom, please do, but understand that by acting like a total fucking douche instead of responding to my argument in a respectful way you are basically slaying our chances to consolidate on mafia together if were both town.

2). If you still think I'm scum then by all means please lead a lynch on me, if not then stop antagnonizing someone you probally need to win. Unless you care more about petty spite then winning / : in which case refer to the one.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#1775
Guys we're lynching GB. He's still saying Vivax is his top mafia (do you seriously have nothing better by this point?) and isn't even remotely trying to push it at all. No comment on stuff that's been happening. Compare to town games. Compare to mafia games. Easy mafia.

I agree with BH's conclusion about rayn's Slam rage. I can totally see how rayn could get really mad over players like Slam just being in the game despite that fact that he wasn't as Slam-like as usual. I also actually really like gumshoe's post about rayn. I honestly think a world where rayn is town and just exploded after getting really mad is not unlikely at all. I think he's definitely not the best lynch today regardless.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 25 2015 20:36 GMT
#1776
On October 25 2015 13:56 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 09:46 Chromatically wrote:
On October 25 2015 09:41 Onegu wrote:
Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.

Xata is making zero sense here.

##Vote: Xata

What was it that Xata said that made zero sense?

This question is for Onegu to answer, in case he doesn't see it.

Really strange that Onegu still hasn't answered this.

Like has he not seen it because he isn't reading? Is he ignoring it because he doesn't know what to say?

I don't really want to talk about why I think this is important until Onegu answers.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:40 GMT
#1777
i wanna take a moment to talk about xata, and why he isn't in the top of my town list; but why i cannot support a lynch on him today unless epiphanies are delivered upon me from the holy mafia mother.

xata might be town because he hasn't stopped thinking and posting thoughts even if they go too far into the future. he is considering things to the point of wasted brain power. further his activity is 1/4th of the entire thread (which makes it slightly unreadable at times). it is clear that the effort level is there, and as of now with how few people are actually attempting to solve the game, i am completely compelled to give out modest effort based reads alone. in terms of content he has thought more extreme versions of what i have thought on multiple occasions and has pushed for his word to be law.

why i am hesitant about xata is because of a game i played somewhat recently. there was this guy who some1 invited from another forum playing on TL for the first time i think. he came into the thread, spammed non-stop, yelled at everyone, didn't read what anyone typed, made multiple people want to quit/sub out of the game, and pushed some of the dumbest and most forced crap i have ever read. to me he was obvious mafia, but every1 else was all like "no way 1st time player on forums does x or is this toxic". he then subbed out and was replaced by a nice quiet dude on N2 or D3 who we never lynched and got rekt. the point of this whole story and references that i didn't look up is that xata has given me ripples of those same feels at points this game.

also i realized...i am getting shot in the face tonight aren't i? that blows.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#1778
On October 26 2015 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....

i at least understand that onegu has an opinion and a reason behind his opinion. regardless of the quality of both. i cannot say the same about yamato or hopeless atm. so no, yamato and hopeless are worse.

also onegu doesn't strike me as hard defender of teammates as mafia, so if rayn is mafia onegu is probably just wrong and not mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#1779
On October 26 2015 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....


You all assume mafia has to look awful / : it really doesn't, it can even look fantastic (look at holyflaires games for example, he plays so well most times he makes it to to top of everyone's town lists with ease).
Personally the dangerous ones are usually in the lower middle of the pack, my reason for suspecting Hopeless isnt as much hes a lurker as much as who hes lightly tied to, but I'll go into that in a bit.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:44 GMT
#1780
On October 26 2015 05:34 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.


I established that mafia Rayn can play objectively, then I proved that his play this game was objectively bad as scum, I showed how he could have easily put himself in a good position and instead shat the bed.

This isnt Rayn faking emotion as scum, because scum has no reason to fake emotion when they have better options/obvius. Rayn is just playing emotionally which scum have no reason to do because they are happy with the outcome of the lynch.

1)If you want to boil actual thought and effort down to wifom, please do, but understand that by acting like a total fucking douche instead of responding to my argument in a respectful way you are basically slaying our chances to consolidate on mafia together if were both town.

2). If you still think I'm scum then by all means please lead a lynch on me, if not then stop antagnonizing someone you probally need to win. Unless you care more about petty spite then winning / : in which case refer to the one.


twas a joke sir.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Prev 1 87 88 89 90 91 196 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 139
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 1073
actioN 301
Tasteless 241
Killer 195
Leta 120
Jaedong 117
Soma 101
Nal_rA 54
Sharp 51
yabsab 41
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 39
ZergMaN 37
scan(afreeca) 36
ToSsGirL 29
sSak 29
Mong 28
910 27
Hyuk 26
Aegong 24
NaDa 20
zelot 17
GoRush 16
Bale 10
Dota 2
XaKoH 373
NeuroSwarm164
League of Legends
JimRising 496
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1445
Stewie2K759
m0e_tv216
kRYSTAL_13
Other Games
summit1g3664
C9.Mang0498
WinterStarcraft355
Happy200
Hui .85
Trikslyr28
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL31523
Other Games
gamesdonequick823
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 46
• LUISG 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1904
• Jankos729
• Stunt521
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
25m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
1h 25m
Epic.LAN
3h 25m
Replay Cast
15h 25m
PiG Sty Festival
1d
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 1h
Epic.LAN
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-19
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.