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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 25 2015 20:05 GMT
#1761
The part where rayn argues with the host doesn't sit right with me either, true. But if gas town rayn where has he been thus whole time?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:08 GMT
#1762
On October 25 2015 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Finishing up dinner shortly, then I'll read up. Taking requests for analysis


empty promises
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:08 GMT
#1763
On October 25 2015 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.


reading but not trying to find scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 25 2015 20:09 GMT
#1764
##unvote

Fuck it let's give him another day to shape up

I may re vote him when I'm home tonight but that argument with the host just don't sit right with me
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 25 2015 20:10 GMT
#1765
On October 26 2015 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Finishing up dinner shortly, then I'll read up. Taking requests for analysis


empty promises


Still eating dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 25 2015 20:11 GMT
#1766
It's a big dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:12 GMT
#1767
On October 26 2015 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:
The part where rayn argues with the host doesn't sit right with me either, true. But if gas town rayn where has he been thus whole time?


Rage quitting, what else? Scum Rayn was in a fantastic position, he had Marv at his back, he couldve shot xata and taken the win out of the Rayn train, and just used meta as a reason for why Xata got shot and then he coulda just hustled like he tends to do as scum. At the very least a scum Rayn could've entirely prevented the possibility of a day 2 lynch of on himself.

Town Rayn just sees us as either stupid, or trolls. He has no desire to help us and at this point he wants to get mislynched because it will prove his point. I think for now it would be best to treat him as a jester, if a lynch on yamato or hopeless fails, then we can return to this retardation. But till then, show some respect/disgust for Rayn and leave the true troll alone to sulk under his brige.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:12 GMT
#1768
On October 26 2015 02:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:04 Xatalos wrote:
Are you suggesting Vivax is scum then, GB? Or what? Even then that wouldn't make much sense unless he was scum with you, and then your post wouldn't make much sense.


I'm not suggesting, I'm DECLARING he is scum. I've never said he wasn't?


your declarations mean so much to me atm. oh my god, i feel so compelled. the case. the effort. the reads you have given. how could i ever deny the truth you are spouting?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 25 2015 20:16 GMT
#1769
Get off your high horse rit. Let's try to be modestly friendly to the 50% of the game that's actually playing ok
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:20 GMT
#1770
sorry, i thought i was good for a moment. gotta remember my place.

dunno, people aren't really giving me reasons to lynch outside the list i made.

gb, rayn, hopeless, yamato.

3 of which have basically quit this phase and 1 of which is very clearly reading but doing nothing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 25 2015 20:23 GMT
#1771
Hmmmm.....

I think I saw rayn explode as scum once though, and he was Vig shot N1 as scum. marv was his teammate and gave up after that. I think rayn was trying to emulate his EMO town meta there, so it's possible the same is happening here... Then again, I agree that antagonizing the host isn't really a reasonable scum play in any form (not reasonable as either alignment, but less so as scum when you're responsible to your team).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:25 GMT
#1772
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 25 2015 20:29 GMT
#1773
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#1774
On October 26 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.


I established that mafia Rayn can play objectively, then I proved that his play this game was objectively bad as scum, I showed how he could have easily put himself in a good position and instead shat the bed.

This isnt Rayn faking emotion as scum, because scum has no reason to fake emotion when they have better options/obvius. Rayn is just playing emotionally which scum have no reason to do because they are happy with the outcome of the lynch.

1)If you want to boil actual thought and effort down to wifom, please do, but understand that by acting like a total fucking douche instead of responding to my argument in a respectful way you are basically slaying our chances to consolidate on mafia together if were both town.

2). If you still think I'm scum then by all means please lead a lynch on me, if not then stop antagnonizing someone you probally need to win. Unless you care more about petty spite then winning / : in which case refer to the one.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#1775
Guys we're lynching GB. He's still saying Vivax is his top mafia (do you seriously have nothing better by this point?) and isn't even remotely trying to push it at all. No comment on stuff that's been happening. Compare to town games. Compare to mafia games. Easy mafia.

I agree with BH's conclusion about rayn's Slam rage. I can totally see how rayn could get really mad over players like Slam just being in the game despite that fact that he wasn't as Slam-like as usual. I also actually really like gumshoe's post about rayn. I honestly think a world where rayn is town and just exploded after getting really mad is not unlikely at all. I think he's definitely not the best lynch today regardless.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 25 2015 20:36 GMT
#1776
On October 25 2015 13:56 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 09:46 Chromatically wrote:
On October 25 2015 09:41 Onegu wrote:
Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.

Xata is making zero sense here.

##Vote: Xata

What was it that Xata said that made zero sense?

This question is for Onegu to answer, in case he doesn't see it.

Really strange that Onegu still hasn't answered this.

Like has he not seen it because he isn't reading? Is he ignoring it because he doesn't know what to say?

I don't really want to talk about why I think this is important until Onegu answers.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:40 GMT
#1777
i wanna take a moment to talk about xata, and why he isn't in the top of my town list; but why i cannot support a lynch on him today unless epiphanies are delivered upon me from the holy mafia mother.

xata might be town because he hasn't stopped thinking and posting thoughts even if they go too far into the future. he is considering things to the point of wasted brain power. further his activity is 1/4th of the entire thread (which makes it slightly unreadable at times). it is clear that the effort level is there, and as of now with how few people are actually attempting to solve the game, i am completely compelled to give out modest effort based reads alone. in terms of content he has thought more extreme versions of what i have thought on multiple occasions and has pushed for his word to be law.

why i am hesitant about xata is because of a game i played somewhat recently. there was this guy who some1 invited from another forum playing on TL for the first time i think. he came into the thread, spammed non-stop, yelled at everyone, didn't read what anyone typed, made multiple people want to quit/sub out of the game, and pushed some of the dumbest and most forced crap i have ever read. to me he was obvious mafia, but every1 else was all like "no way 1st time player on forums does x or is this toxic". he then subbed out and was replaced by a nice quiet dude on N2 or D3 who we never lynched and got rekt. the point of this whole story and references that i didn't look up is that xata has given me ripples of those same feels at points this game.

also i realized...i am getting shot in the face tonight aren't i? that blows.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#1778
On October 26 2015 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....

i at least understand that onegu has an opinion and a reason behind his opinion. regardless of the quality of both. i cannot say the same about yamato or hopeless atm. so no, yamato and hopeless are worse.

also onegu doesn't strike me as hard defender of teammates as mafia, so if rayn is mafia onegu is probably just wrong and not mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#1779
On October 26 2015 05:29 Xatalos wrote:
Lol

ritoky you don't think Onegu is a suspect? I think he looks worse than Hopeless at least, and probably worse than yamato....


You all assume mafia has to look awful / : it really doesn't, it can even look fantastic (look at holyflaires games for example, he plays so well most times he makes it to to top of everyone's town lists with ease).
Personally the dangerous ones are usually in the lower middle of the pack, my reason for suspecting Hopeless isnt as much hes a lurker as much as who hes lightly tied to, but I'll go into that in a bit.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 25 2015 20:44 GMT
#1780
On October 26 2015 05:34 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
wifom wifom wifom wifom wifom. scum rayn wouldn't risk modkill to the point where he got warned. wifom wifom wifom wifom.


I established that mafia Rayn can play objectively, then I proved that his play this game was objectively bad as scum, I showed how he could have easily put himself in a good position and instead shat the bed.

This isnt Rayn faking emotion as scum, because scum has no reason to fake emotion when they have better options/obvius. Rayn is just playing emotionally which scum have no reason to do because they are happy with the outcome of the lynch.

1)If you want to boil actual thought and effort down to wifom, please do, but understand that by acting like a total fucking douche instead of responding to my argument in a respectful way you are basically slaying our chances to consolidate on mafia together if were both town.

2). If you still think I'm scum then by all means please lead a lynch on me, if not then stop antagnonizing someone you probally need to win. Unless you care more about petty spite then winning / : in which case refer to the one.


twas a joke sir.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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