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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 24 2015 21:16 GMT
#28
for the power of whisky
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 12:51 GMT
#48
We might have to just lynch Rels every game... just to be sure..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 12:57 GMT
#50
On September 25 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We might have to just lynch Rels every game... just to be sure..

let's lynch me 33% of the games OK
that's good odds I think

I believe you get the "how marv reads rayn" treatment.
whenever you make a single post that is "off" you're done.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 13:01 GMT
#55
On September 25 2015 21:58 Rels wrote:
I wanna try tasting whisky playing this game
what do I begin with

Talisker Dark Storm.
Fly to Finland i offer you a drink right away for your last game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 13:04 GMT
#61
I've never had any of those except for:
Talisker Storm - good
Miyagikyo 12 - okay...ish... if i remember correctly
Lagavulin 16 - good
Glenfiddich - yuck, especially the 15yr
Suntory Yamazaki Single Malt - quite good tbh
Laphroaig 15 - ok
Jack Daniels - as crap as any US whisky.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 13:05 GMT
#63
On September 25 2015 22:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
This is remarkably similar to how you try and read me tbh. Except I do weird stuff all the time :D

no, not at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2015 13:09 GMT
#70
On September 25 2015 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
10 year and Storm are very common and easy to find. (Yeh, when I say 10 or any number, that's the age, as in 10 year)

Dark Storm looks worth a try when we're through.

You should probably try this too.
Best blend in the world and way better than most of ~50eur single malts.
https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/islay-mist-deluxe-whisky/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 09:36 GMT
#201
##teamwhiskey
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 14:58 GMT
#209
Pre-game information.
I am working outside my hometown today and at least tomorrow. Hopefully i can get home for tomorrow evening, maybe i will, maybe not. I'll be here a while after the game starts but then i am gonna be away for most of tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 15:12 GMT
#214
I have decided the mafia is GB/Moosydoosy/rosultin/Rels.
yes, there is four scum in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 16:28 GMT
#222
On September 29 2015 01:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 20:59 rsoultin wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:03 Trfel wrote:
I didn't say Night 1.

I said Day 1.


:/ i've already been lynched d1 by the scum!rayn

not here cause y'all are smarter than that lol but still

no novelties for you xP
But raynpelikoneet was mafia.

i know, i was smarter than everyone.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 19:49 GMT
#232
geez man one of the choices is scummy one is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 20:59 GMT
#248
marv i hope you are town.
i am gonna try if i am. not mafia. too time consuming. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 21:20 GMT
#261
omnomnom.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:00 GMT
#268
fuck
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:05 GMT
#274
On September 29 2015 07:03 Damdred wrote:
Rolled scum and decided to concede rayn?

actually i would have preferred to roll scum and didn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:08 GMT
#283
On September 29 2015 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
silly townread on ls

why?

cause...i feel like it

-lounges-

terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:13 GMT
#295
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:16 GMT
#301
wee i have one townread for terrible reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:19 GMT
#308
On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?

marv
J Roc
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:20 GMT
#312
On September 29 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wee i have one townread for terrible reasons.


is it the same terrible townread i have? cause then you should retract and feel ashamed for being a putz

who is yours?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:22 GMT
#317
shhh....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:22 GMT
#320
fu trfel...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:24 GMT
#323
yeah that's a shitty read rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#331
On September 29 2015 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:23 sicklucker wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend


scummiest post I have ever read lol


It's not

+6
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:26 GMT
#333
hi sl did you roll mafia again?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:30 GMT
#342
##vote sicklucker
goodnight
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:31 GMT
#343
gb is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#351
i literally don't care. i gotta go to sleep.
marv can read me and then it's 100%.
sl is mafia, gb is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 28 2015 22:36 GMT
#356
the reasoning is he is the only guy who is talking about "relevant stuff" without saying anything relevant.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 08:40 GMT
#610
##unvote

i don't actaully think sicklucker is scum anymore.
for the record to everyone i don't actually read what gb writes unless i think he is csum and he is not scum.
but i have two really good scumreads. it makes one of my posts super funny.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#626
marv you're actually quite likely to be scum here.
There is a post that is horrible and you didn't say anything about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:06 GMT
#630
On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote:
J Roc is here

Nowatimsayin

Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia.

Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn?

On September 29 2015 08:30 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.



This isn't true, Rayn will bus.

no marv. you literally know all this here is 100% bullshit, and considering this guy is a smurf you should be extremely concerned about what he says here. and you are not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:15 GMT
#634
On September 29 2015 18:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote:
J Roc is here

Nowatimsayin

Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia.

Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn?

On September 29 2015 08:30 J Roc wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.



This isn't true, Rayn will bus.

no marv. you literally know all this here is 100% bullshit, and considering this guy is a smurf you should be extremely concerned about what he says here. and you are not.

rayn you don't bus as mafia ??

never unnecessarily.
which this would 100% be if i was mafia with sl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:17 GMT
#635
I mean i tried it once, in Catch 22 mafia.
It was about 4 yrs ago. After that, never.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:19 GMT
#638
of course it was when the three scumcandidates are your team and noone else is going to get lynched on D1...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:23 GMT
#640
For refecrence this is what i wrote to marv the last game i was town with him:
I bussed in XXX and i did it hard. However i bus for a reason. The reason in that game was both me and JAT looking terrible on D1. If you read the scumQT i literally said "we have to bus, there is no other fucking way we are going to win as we have driven ourselves into this situation". In contrary, if you look at the last scumgame i linked, Slendy made a perfect case on my scumbuddy on D1. Too bad it came too late, so i just showed it off for "too little time, we are not gonna lynch SiRReN, you are scum if you push this" which was technically "right" as we had three options for lynch, and he was pushing a fourth one there for "no reason" about an hour before deadline. (now that would have been a good case on me rofl). The only other game i bussed in was one where i wanted to show Regfan (he is a really good player here on VS, though he does not basically play anymore) that he can't read me (as he incorrectly thinks so), he basically has called me "very easy to figure out, a really bad player who is only good at looking town when he is town". So yeah, you should get why. ^^ I ended up as his top townread, unfortunately i had to replace out because no internet for a week. :/ But yeah, i do not unnecessarily bus, ever. There is absolutely no reason for me to bus in this game, because i did not really read Eighth town until the very end of D1 (and never really said that BEFORE i started contesting his lynch). He was town, why would i bus? Like there is no reason for me to contest the lynch as mafia when i just do not have to. You can say WIFOM, but no, it's not. That's not how i work. You should know it.

I forgot what i needed to say in the end here. It has to do with the last game as scum here.

So yeah i made a case on rsoultin. I pushed it, and i pushed it hard. However, ultimately, i let Cory decide the lynch when we were on skype (it was an open comm game) with Xatalos and him. I didn't need to push rsoultin further because the lynch was between her (town), Tiger (town - he was the leading wagon at the time i pushed rsoultin hard and i had a "REALLY STRONG" townread on him for the best post ever in that game at the time everyone just ignored) and SIU (town). Like yeah, it's totally different than what i do as town (which is one thing Xatalos totally misrepped me in that game, unfortunately i just did not have time to fight him and that sneaky bitch posted only when i was not able to post and he knew it, props for it ^^).


Every single person who was in any of those games knows this is true.
Apparently Damdred doesn't, for some reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:31 GMT
#648
On September 29 2015 18:29 Rels wrote:
@rayn marv told me the way to read him 100% after the witch mafia game
He told me that as town he is involved in everything, and he can't replicate that as mafia
Confirm ? If that's really the case then he will be an easy read at EOD

basically that's quite close to the truth.
here he is not involved in things he should be.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 09:32 GMT
#650
I have more to say on this but basically i am lynching J Roc today because he is mafia.
If i still want to eat at my food break i have to go, so more to come tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 10:52 GMT
#697
i am pretty sure rsoultin is not mafia though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 10:53 GMT
#698
On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 08:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.
Lol?

Read this game.

Has he ever hardcore bussed at the start of games when there was no reason to?

Although I could understand busing sicklucker...


one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched.

Damdred looks terrible for not pustting zero thought into this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:03 GMT
#701
On September 29 2015 20:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.
Lol?

Read this game.

Has he ever hardcore bussed at the start of games when there was no reason to?

Although I could understand busing sicklucker...


one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched.

Damdred looks terrible for not pustting zero thought into this post.


Nope I just tell it how I view it, but different views on that game exist

no, there are literally 0 different views.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:06 GMT
#704
On September 29 2015 20:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.
Lol?

Read this game.

Has he ever hardcore bussed at the start of games when there was no reason to?

Although I could understand busing sicklucker...


one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched.

Damdred looks terrible for not pustting zero thought into this post.


that post is effectively factual?

you did. i agree it wasn't for no reason though lol >< you and jat were caught early

that is the fucking point of the argument in the first place!!!!!!
Are you all just idiots?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:11 GMT
#709
I don't care about anything than lynching J Roc this day phase.
Then, when he flips mafia, i am going to ask Damdred something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:15 GMT
#711
On September 29 2015 09:52 J Roc wrote:
Alright goodnight, I am one of the few people on the site who can read Rsoultin. Town lean on her for now.

rsoultin who is this guy?

What comes to my mind is:
jat
yamato
hf

if this is any of those three people he is 100% scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:16 GMT
#713
On September 29 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes rayn- moosy bugs me. am i dumb?

my top townread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:20 GMT
#716
Anyways it's not important.
But it makes it a fact that they are a smurf and when a smurf talks shit out of their mouth they are mafia just like any other player.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:25 GMT
#720
Because he had the only acceptable reaction to that shit read on me/sl from the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:34 GMT
#729
On September 29 2015 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because he had the only acceptable reaction to that shit read on me/sl from the game.

doesn't make a player town

Yes it does, when you cut down bullshit from the thread.
Which you effectively failed to do while that is something you love to do..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:37 GMT
#732
On September 29 2015 20:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because he had the only acceptable reaction to that shit read on me/sl from the game.

doesn't make a player town

Yes it does, when you cut down bullshit from the thread.
Which you effectively failed to do while that is something you love to do..

you clearly don't know me anywhere near as well as you think you do.

Well you can call it "interesting/uninteresting". The problem with you is it should have become interesting for you the moment the guy claims he is one of the best players in reading rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 11:41 GMT
#739
fair enough then for now.
back to work.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 13:44 GMT
#805
i have already explained my read on GB.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 13:47 GMT
#809
Actually Trfel does that as mafia. I have not seen it like this "easily" but that's exactly the reason i caught him in that one game which name i forgot, the game where he was mafia with rsoultin & Hopeless.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 14:03 GMT
#815
On August 16 2015 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2015 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
On August 16 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
guys... guys.... guys...we should really lynch Trfel.


rayn...rayn...rayn...i have issues with him but i'm trying to understand what it is about that post that you hate so much? is it just that condor was a lurker when he said he didn't want to lynch lurkers?

No it's like he approaches the whole Hopeless and deconduo as whole.
Here is the post:
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On August 13 2015 11:00 Trfel wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:56 Trfel wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:54 Trfel wrote:
Hard claiming mafia

Come and lynch me!!!


-flicks- why don't you just answer the question instead of being a troll
Which question?


damdred's

why voting condor over hopeless? the votecount you posted doesn't really clear that up any @.@
Most of it is because deconduo is scummy, Hopeless1der is null.

Deconduo is more active, but he spent most of his posts arguing about one thing that VisceraEyes said and not changing his opinions based on what other people said. He seemed extremely stubborn, and then used mechanics as a defense only after other people jumped on it.

I really don't like unflipped association analysis. I don't really care who I'm voting with, especially on Day 1 (though it is nice to be against ruXxar).


Like he says "deconduo has played a shitton of games, i would expect him to do something". If you go to the database and look at the "most games played, you'll find out that:
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...
Hopeless1der 33
Artanis[Xp] 32
Foolishness 31
slOosh 31
VayneAuthority 31
deconduo 30
...

It's like, he calls deconduo mafia because deconduo is a vet and should know better "how to play", except that Hopeless has played MORE games than deconduo, and deconduo has been inactive for like what.. two years? In fact Hopeless is the one who "should know better" here.

It's hard to explain but the approach as a whole doesn't make any sense at all.

Another thing is this:
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On August 14 2015 15:16 Trfel wrote:
Maybe Chezinu, depending on what he does next.

Maybe prplhz, I need to read his filter again tomorrow.

Maybe rsoultin? I've kind of been ignoring her?

I need to take a closer look at what ruXxar's saying.

Artanis is looking a bit better, but I'm still concerned..... Same with Damdred.

I don't really feel like filter diving tonight.

There are two massive red flags here in this post.

First one is that Trfel has literally no scumreads at all.

The second one is the bolded red part. Notice he is talking about a guy who he has called mafia ALL GAME LONG (before Hopeless flip). Yet he doesn't somehow remember what ruxxar has posted and done. It's basically impossible he is telling the truth here. The logical conclusion for nayone who has read anything ruxxar has posted is that ruxxar is town. Yet he is somehow incapable of making the conclusion.

I don't believe that.

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#816
He basically forgot everything a guy had posted, a guy who he had called mafia all game long.
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September 29 2015 14:07 GMT
#817
gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15.
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September 29 2015 14:08 GMT
#819
Oh yeah, before i go;
MoosyDoosy could you explain in detail why you are scumreading me?
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September 29 2015 14:09 GMT
#820
On September 29 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though?

It's like he says one thing then suddenly he says something completely different when anything should really have not changed in his opinion.
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September 29 2015 14:20 GMT
#825
On September 29 2015 23:12 Rels wrote:
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On September 29 2015 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though?

It's like he says one thing then suddenly he says something completely different when anything should really have not changed in his opinion.

It's not obvious from the post you quoted, but if that is what happened, then it is similar to this game's rsoultin read progression.

Trfel had called ruxxar mafia for 3 ird-days. (D1/N1).
On D2 he says what is quoted red in my post.
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#831
I guess i am gonna go read what Trfel actually did here.
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September 29 2015 14:36 GMT
#834
mmm yeah it's not similar at all.
although i have no friggin' idea what Trfel is doing this game...
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September 29 2015 14:39 GMT
#836
On September 29 2015 23:31 Rels wrote:
This in particular:
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On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase


oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle?

all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive

i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol ><
OH YEAH that was my argument!

Thank you for reminding me!

Never mind, it's still somewhat valid.

is the similar part about forgetting a reason to scumread rsoultin.

to be fair this is true though.
he literally says..at first.. that his "reasoning fro scumreading rsoul is not actually valid", let's call this reasoning X.
When rsoultin makes a post he goes all "oh yeah, my reasoning was Y instead of X".

Doesn't make much sense.
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September 29 2015 14:42 GMT
#838
On September 29 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
rayn, marv, what do you think of coolTLname ? Mafia or newbie ?

definitely newbie.
not sure if mafia.
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September 29 2015 14:44 GMT
#840
he called me a godfather and voted for me.
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September 29 2015 14:47 GMT
#843
well afaik he's from sc2mafia so i am not surprised at all.
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September 29 2015 14:48 GMT
#844
On September 29 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
yeah I didn't understand that part p:
I disliked some things about his first two posts, but some can be excused by newbieness (the rayn / GB mixup + asking useless questions). Agree on wait & see

I am pretty sure you called him scum though, no?
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September 29 2015 14:52 GMT
#846
How is the moosy stuff explained exactly?
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September 29 2015 14:53 GMT
#848
On September 29 2015 16:33 coolTLname wrote:
I'll have to re-read rsoultin's posts and I think Trfel is suspicious but town

But let's be honest here.
coolTLname i would like you to explain how someone is "suspicious but town"?
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September 29 2015 15:11 GMT
#851
hmm maybe sicklucker is mafia after all.
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September 29 2015 15:14 GMT
#853
well at least by his own definition he is.
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September 29 2015 15:26 GMT
#863
On September 30 2015 00:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah, before i go;
MoosyDoosy could you explain in detail why you are scumreading me?

Exactly how much of the thread have you read so far? It worries me that you didn't see that what Trfel did here differs from what he did in the other game.

This is not your reason for scumreading me. Try again.
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September 29 2015 15:27 GMT
#865
You answer me first.
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#868
mhm....
i have read the whole thread.
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September 29 2015 15:41 GMT
#881
##vote J Roc
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September 29 2015 15:46 GMT
#886
On September 30 2015 00:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn, any response to the points I briefly listed against you?

not really no. they are bad and some of them can't even poossibly make me mafia.
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September 29 2015 15:49 GMT
#890
I have perfectly explained why i think he is mafia.
You should know that if you have read my filter which i would assume you have since i am your scumread.
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September 29 2015 15:50 GMT
#891
On September 30 2015 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
$10 says we lynch Jroc today after a million pages.

Well as I said i am not gonna vote for anyone else regardless of what anyone does.
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September 29 2015 15:51 GMT
#892
marv do you remember a single game where i have, as mafia, claimed mafia at the start of the game?
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September 29 2015 15:53 GMT
#894
mmm... well in J Roc's opinion "rayn likes to do that" so i am waiting for him to give at least 3+ examples of me doing that.
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September 29 2015 15:55 GMT
#896
You are wrong.
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#898
On September 30 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are wrong.

So correct me?

You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum.
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#900
On September 30 2015 01:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are wrong.

So correct me?

You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum.

Nope I have not been arguing for the exact same reasons as you. I just saw J Roc make a false statement and parroted what others had said about you busing yourself. I am not dumbing down the argument. Those were literally my thoughts.

mmm and you think i am mafia for "not looking for inconsistancies"?
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September 29 2015 16:10 GMT
#901
... when i literally call the dude mafia for it right after i get to the thread?
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September 29 2015 16:10 GMT
#903
... and you think my read on him is not explained (which btw is your other reason for thinking i am mafia)?
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#905
.... and you also think i am mafia as i am not posting that much, when i have clearly said i am working outside home yesterday-today (and tomorrow). Shit i guess i can't explain that from town perspective, why i post less when working than i do when not working...
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#907
On September 30 2015 01:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are wrong.

So correct me?

You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum.

Nope I have not been arguing for the exact same reasons as you. I just saw J Roc make a false statement and parroted what others had said about you busing yourself. I am not dumbing down the argument. Those were literally my thoughts.

mmm and you think i am mafia for "not looking for inconsistancies"?

? J Roc made a false statement. Not an inconsistency.

Yes it is an inconsistancy. It's literally bullshit, because he is a fucking smurf which is proven by his "ability to read rsoultin", regardless of if that's correct or not. Him saying i like to claim mafia as mafia is another thing that is bullshit. 100%. People do not post things that are bullshit when they are town.

Somehow you do NOT care about any of this, instead you call me scum for shit reasons.
You deserve to die on D2.
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September 29 2015 16:16 GMT
#909
On September 30 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are wrong.

So correct me?

You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum.

Nope I have not been arguing for the exact same reasons as you. I just saw J Roc make a false statement and parroted what others had said about you busing yourself. I am not dumbing down the argument. Those were literally my thoughts.

mmm and you think i am mafia for "not looking for inconsistancies"?

? J Roc made a false statement. Not an inconsistency.

Yes it is an inconsistancy. It's literally bullshit, because he is a fucking smurf which is proven by his "ability to read rsoultin", regardless of if that's correct or not. Him saying i like to claim mafia as mafia is another thing that is bullshit. 100%. People do not post things that are bullshit when they are town.

Somehow you do NOT care about any of this, instead you call me scum for shit reasons.
You deserve to die on D2.

Okay, so what I said about your points against J Roc are correct in the end.

No, it is not about bussing. It is about UNNECESSARILY BUSSING.
You fucking argued about it in MY favor, now you somehow suddenly forget about the word "unnecessarily"....
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September 29 2015 16:18 GMT
#910
Like i literally did townread you for what you said....
bussing -> yes i do bus, when i have to (this is what YOUR post said later on)
unnecessary bus -> no i never do that (which would be the case here if i was mafia with sl), which is what he said

Like this is fucking simple.
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September 29 2015 16:24 GMT
#914
On September 30 2015 01:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 30 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are wrong.

So correct me?

You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum.

Nope I have not been arguing for the exact same reasons as you. I just saw J Roc make a false statement and parroted what others had said about you busing yourself. I am not dumbing down the argument. Those were literally my thoughts.

mmm and you think i am mafia for "not looking for inconsistancies"?

? J Roc made a false statement. Not an inconsistency.

Yes it is an inconsistancy. It's literally bullshit, because he is a fucking smurf which is proven by his "ability to read rsoultin", regardless of if that's correct or not. Him saying i like to claim mafia as mafia is another thing that is bullshit. 100%. People do not post things that are bullshit when they are town.

Somehow you do NOT care about any of this, instead you call me scum for shit reasons.
You deserve to die on D2.

Okay, so what I said about your points against J Roc are correct in the end.

No, it is not about bussing. It is about UNNECESSARILY BUSSING.
You fucking argued about it in MY favor, now you somehow suddenly forget about the word "unnecessarily"....

...bro that's such a minor detail. Whether it be "busing" or "busing unnecessarily" the meaning behind the post is the same. J Roc made a false statement about you and I corrected him about it. And you are taking this false statement as a scum read on him. That's clearly what I meant.

But that is completely different.
"rayn will bus" is not an incorrect statement.
"rayn and sl are hardbussing here" is literally impossible for anyone who has ever played with me when i have been mafia.

That's also why Damdred look terrible, for not realizing this simple fact.
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September 29 2015 16:28 GMT
#916
On September 30 2015 01:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Bottom line is that you're scum reading J Roc because he's spouting nonsense. Right?

Yes. He is saying things he MUST know are incorrect.
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September 29 2015 16:30 GMT
#918
On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote:
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On September 29 2015 08:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 29 2015 08:27 J Roc wrote:
I may or may not be a smurf

Nowatimsayin

Either way that means your a veteran. In that case, you should know rayn never buses his partners unless necessary. Strike against you sir.
Lol?

Read this game.

Has he ever hardcore bussed at the start of games when there was no reason to?

Although I could understand busing sicklucker...


one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched.

Explain this post Damdred.
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September 29 2015 16:42 GMT
#919
Here, i help you ouf a bit:

The smurf comes in the game saying i am harcorebussing sicklucker ~1h into the game. MoosyDoosy says "but rayn never unnecessarily busses". Trfel points out a game where rayn busses. Your response is "that's right, rayn bussed in that game".

Now, why in your opinion me possibly bussing sicklucker 1h into the game when noone has said anything counts as same as me bussing JAT 3h before the deadline when me/him are the ONLY viable lynch candidates? How do you explain those situations being similar, given that the argument here is "does rayn unnecessarily bus or not" and Trfel being a dumbass and not even realizing what he is arguing about?

Or if you can't explain that, why the fuck did you even make that post that has nothing to do with anything except for calling me mafia by proxy?
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September 29 2015 16:43 GMT
#920
And this marv, is why i was calling you out.
The argument is actually really fucking interesting.
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September 29 2015 17:34 GMT
#925
On September 30 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
it's only interesting because people are being moronic

If you think Damdred or J Roc are morons then yes you are right, i would not be so sure of that,
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September 29 2015 19:36 GMT
#927
On September 30 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 30 2015 02:23 rsoultin wrote:
Sexy marv -from the corner-

For this and the vote

-cough- marv literally voted me because I was being a dick and he refused to read into my posts.

I am not sure if you are doing this intentionally or not but why do you keep saying stuff that is just not true?
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September 29 2015 19:36 GMT
#928
On September 30 2015 02:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
so rsoultin. What do you think of marv now?

Why do you even care?
You townread marv. Rsoultin townreads marv.
Why do you care?
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September 29 2015 19:43 GMT
#930
He is voting for you because you share his view on rsoultin (which is basically the only think marv had done at that time when you voted for him), so it doesn't make much sense. When you were questioned about it, you said you voted with Damdred because you trust Damdred's met a read on marv - which again doesn't make any sense since you didn't even think Damdred is town at that time. Then you gave a crapass read on tlname, and argued about it being a read when it really is not a read at all.
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September 29 2015 19:50 GMT
#932
On September 30 2015 04:50 Damdred wrote:
I told the truth from my view which is factual which at least one of your scum buddies in that game would agree with. And some of the people in the game.

Incorrect.
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September 29 2015 19:53 GMT
#934
When i have literally made numerous of posts about the situation in the scum QT during the game, after the game in the game thread, and in other threads, on other forums (YOU WERE BTW IN THAT GAME TOO), and in other games here (nearly all of the games i have played after that when someone brings up the retarded bussing argument), it is literally impossible you believe your last post.

It doesn't even have anything to do with if "my scumbbuddies agreed with me back then".
Again, do you believe the situation in this game (assuming i was bussing SL) and in XXX game were similar?
A simple question.
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September 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#939
On September 30 2015 04:53 Damdred wrote:
Idk what you say rayn it doesn't make my opinion factually incorrect. You didn't have to counter claim jats medic claim when town was super disorganized and everyone was going everywhere. It was an unnecessary bus in my opinion and your opinion doesn't outweigh mine or make what I say factually incorrect.

And you do not believe it would have lead it into me being lynched when i was the ONLY opposing wagon?
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September 29 2015 19:58 GMT
#940
On September 30 2015 04:55 coolTLname wrote:
and in the beginning , where everyone is having friendly talk rayn seemed very mechanical. Also he keeps saying BRB, which irks me. He's irksome. however he has a town read on me which is odd, but then votes J roc when we literally share the same views so maybe not so odd. RAYN for president godfather 2016

brb
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September 29 2015 19:58 GMT
#942
i am gonna end every post of mine with brb from now on.

brb
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September 29 2015 19:59 GMT
#943
On September 30 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I was pushing Eden people were hopping everywhere. It could of went any direction

no. you are mafia.
you die when J Roc flips scum.
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#944
sorry forgot

brb
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September 29 2015 20:02 GMT
#946
On September 30 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote:
No your just either a moron or scum. I'm not sure which I hope scum

well see about that.
wanna trade 1v1 rn?

brb
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September 29 2015 20:09 GMT
#948
I have a really good reasoning to think you are mafia. I don't believe you do believe in what you are saying, And for the record for such a sensitive guy who takes offence when being called dumb (even by your scumreads - which is what marv will most likely do if he is mafia if you knew anything about his meta) you are a real badmouth. It makes you a hypocrite.

brb
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September 29 2015 20:29 GMT
#956
On September 30 2015 05:14 Damdred wrote:
Idk who' I'm bad mouthing at this moment, you called me moronic first and I returned the favor. I 100% believe what I say about that game as its my actual opinion.

And don't worry I'll be out of your hair after this game so you can rest assured no more emotional out bursts or someone trying to reason with you when you are wrong.

In fact i did not. It was marv.
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September 29 2015 20:32 GMT
#959
I am going to decide that Damdred is town for dick move analysis and if he is mafia the game is invalid.
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September 29 2015 20:32 GMT
#960
On September 30 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
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On September 30 2015 05:29 Damdred wrote:
Rels who do you think is scum

Trfel, coolTLname, JRoc.

Add Moosy there and we pretty much can't go wrong unless Shining is scum.
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September 29 2015 20:34 GMT
#962
Oh fuck i forgot sicklucker..... sigh...
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September 29 2015 20:37 GMT
#965
sicklucker basically called himself scum.

gb: rayn who is with you in scum QT?
rayn: marv, JRoc
JRoc´: rayn likes to claim scum as scum
sl: but rayn didn't claim scum
someone: yes he did
sl: no
someone: yes
sl: no
sl: people not reading the thread = mafia

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September 29 2015 20:40 GMT
#966
On September 30 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On September 30 2015 05:29 Damdred wrote:
Rels who do you think is scum

Trfel, coolTLname, JRoc.

Add Moosy there and we pretty much can't go wrong unless Shining is scum.

Don't agree, Moosy makes sense in his reasonning. The only weird thing is him voting marv for a super bad reason.

Actually his story makes a bit sense... not much, but a bit.
The worst part is actually the tlname read that is.... ugh... it's not even a read.
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September 29 2015 20:41 GMT
#968
On September 30 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker basically called himself scum.

gb: rayn who is with you in scum QT?
rayn: marv, JRoc
JRoc´: rayn likes to claim scum as scum
sl: but rayn didn't claim scum
someone: yes he did
sl: no
someone: yes
sl: no
sl: people not reading the thread = mafia


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Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 20:45 GMT
#970
Rels why do you think tlname is mafia?
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September 29 2015 20:58 GMT
#973
On September 30 2015 05:57 coolTLname wrote:
being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion

hmm so you are in fact a smurf.
can you now explain how is it possible for somneone to be suspicious and town, please?
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September 29 2015 21:04 GMT
#980
On September 30 2015 06:01 Rels wrote:
no way a smurf posts something like that:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

he's a newbie. If he's a smurf he's playing dumb

ofc he is playing dumb, but he is 100% smurf. I remember Damdred doing that once with accidently posting on his own main account "if i am Damdred i am 100% mafia"...... as town......

I fucking hate smurfs and they should not be allowed anywhere.
I am expecting him to answer me about his "read" on Trfel, then i am expecting him to answer me about why he is trolling and why his reasoning for scumreading me is bullshit. Then i expect him to make a really fucking good case on why someone is scum. Otherwise he can get lynched.
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September 29 2015 21:05 GMT
#981
I am sorry you had to replace mafia scott.
there is nothing you can do.

weak, so fucking weak J Roc. You are an asshole.
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September 29 2015 21:11 GMT
#985
On September 30 2015 06:10 Rels wrote:
OK to be sure: You' saying him saying "I don't care about GB's and Rels' suspicions" is making him 100% a smurf over a newbie troll
Let me think about it

ofc it does.
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Finland43268 Posts
September 29 2015 21:15 GMT
#988
i guess i should switch my vote for it to be appropriate.
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September 29 2015 21:19 GMT
#991
On September 30 2015 06:16 Rels wrote:
like he had all this story about playing SC2 mafia for along time
he joined Newbie XV, then /out to join this game
it doesn't make sense

Yeah and instead of saying "two people accusing me is hardly being under suspicion" he acts cocky and goes "being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion" is a clear indicator that he at least thinks you two are not capable of pushing lynches. idk, maybe he'll explain his choice of words then instead if he wants to.
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September 29 2015 21:19 GMT
#992
On September 30 2015 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I here for a short time before going home but I will reread every but coolTLname is not a smurf because he played with me in Student V when he got modkilled for pming Damdred in game lol...... Unless he was smurinf there too than how he got away with it. I will now reread the thread now.

so he is just an idiot?
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September 29 2015 21:25 GMT
#993
mmm he is just mafia. not a smurf, but mafia.
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September 29 2015 21:27 GMT
#995
On September 30 2015 06:26 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm he is just mafia. not a smurf, but mafia.


Do you have any questions for me? I see the vote.

Sorry to disappoint, but I swapped into town.

not really i don't, there is nothing you can say.
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September 30 2015 05:18 GMT
#1246
So this game is shit so i don't feel like playing it at all.
I'll just tell three names at the end of day.
My vote is on mafia.
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September 30 2015 10:00 GMT
#1301
Mmm.. agreed on rsoultin
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September 30 2015 10:40 GMT
#1312
On September 30 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mmm.. agreed on rsoultin

why are you finding it so hard to read me town this game?

is it just paranoia from the last game?

I think you are town, have thought so after i said "fair enough".
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September 30 2015 10:42 GMT
#1315
but then we need to lynch scott because he is mafia aswell.
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September 30 2015 10:47 GMT
#1317
The truth is i haven't paid any attention to what rsoultin actually says due to me thinking she is mafia anyways based on last couple of games. If this game had happened a month ago i would have been all yelling to her for the "Damdred's conclusion is factually correct".

Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl.

Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing.

##unvote
##vote rsoultin
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September 30 2015 10:48 GMT
#1318
On September 30 2015 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
ok, if you're still sure about it tomorrow we can lynch scott

this is a read that will not change, ever.
and i am 100% sure about him being mafia.
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September 30 2015 10:57 GMT
#1322
Moosydoosy is probably the third mafia.
His read on me was literally shit and he STILL sits on his read on me when i have easily refuted all his points.
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Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 10:57 GMT
#1323
Trfel is not mafia.
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Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 10:57 GMT
#1326
Trfel has been mafia's mislynch for like the last 24h.
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September 30 2015 11:00 GMT
#1332
On September 30 2015 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 19:56 Rels wrote:
Still think Trfel's rsoultin read is weird, but no way Trfel and rsoultin are scum together.

##Unvote
##Vote rsoultin

don't actually agree

last time they were mafia together they had really really funky interactions together earlygame.

probably quite easy to find in the database.

It wasn't actually that funky. It was just... a toneread both ways and it looked, while bad, not scummy (at least at that time).
This game is quite different. It's like... Trfel for some reason cannot decide what alignment he should come to as a conclusion regarding rsoultin. It's just... flip-floppy.
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September 30 2015 11:20 GMT
#1368
So rsoultin are you going to tell how your top #2 townread becomes your #2 scumread?
What happened between and what townie things did those all other people (than scott) do?

In case you are not, sidcussing anything with you is pointless.
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September 30 2015 11:38 GMT
#1385
So let's see;
You had literally said your strongest townreads are Damdred and marvellosity.
That, by default means marv has done some things you consider to be extremely town, otherwise you are just plain out lying.

Now, marv does not post anything after that post (where you call him town) before you call him your #2 mafia read.
Some examples:
let's see...ls came back, and i know he's looking into college so not being around for that reason makes it nai...my main reason for suspecting him again had fallen off lol ><

"LS didn't do anything to make my opinion on him change"

sl continued pointing out interesting things that made him less likely to be scum, and i maintain my his reads are sl-centric which is generally a town sign point

"sl did some things that make him less likely to be mafia (not town to be exact), so it apparently overrides my #2 townread in towniness"

cool's posts feel super new to me. could be scum but i don't think for any of the reasons anyone are calling him out for

"this null read on cool also overrides my #2 townread in towniness".

Moosydoosy....

yeah there was nothing townie moosy did, that also overrides #2 townread in towniness.



Like, unless you are just straight out throwing out conclusions out of your head without even thinking about anything for one second, you are just straight out lying.

When you townread someone for any reason, the townread does just not vanish. If it did because "other people looked more town", well there is nothing you just said that suggests you are telling the truth.
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September 30 2015 11:42 GMT
#1395
On September 30 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
also i think marv is more likely town now and he'd probably be back up in my #3 or #4 townread so...lol

does that make me scum? xP

I don't care what you say about him now.
I care about the fact that the progression of your reads does not line up with what you present in thread.
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September 30 2015 11:53 GMT
#1409
On September 30 2015 20:48 rsoultin wrote:
and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum

mmm like calling me and marv mafia?
like.... oh you did that.
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September 30 2015 12:11 GMT
#1431
On September 30 2015 21:06 rsoultin wrote:
hey, rayn, if you really thought i was scum so much that you insta!townread marv and rels for scumreading me, why weren't you pushing me?

why haven't you been probing me for my alignment?

that's odd to me tbh :/ explain

i explained it already.
i am not gonna answer a single question anymore in this game that i have already very clearly explained.
especially to scum.

now i am gonna drive home so see you guys in like 3h.
brb
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September 30 2015 15:02 GMT
#1619
On September 30 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
let me just make this super clear to everyone first

point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret

point 2) i had him as a strong townread

point 3) no one was really suspecting him

point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes

when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum

there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum

town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum

there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS

if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous ><

there is so much wrong in this post.
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September 30 2015 15:04 GMT
#1621
On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote:
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><

and this post proves it.
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September 30 2015 15:11 GMT
#1627
On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote:
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><

and this post proves it.


so why haven't you been pushing me all game?

Because i have not read your posts.
Is that so hard to understand?
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September 30 2015 15:12 GMT
#1629
On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all

Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum.
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September 30 2015 15:15 GMT
#1631
On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all

Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum.

...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all.

So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb.
That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that.
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September 30 2015 15:15 GMT
#1634
On October 01 2015 00:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote:
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><

and this post proves it.


so why haven't you been pushing me all game?

Because i have not read your posts.
Is that so hard to understand?


then why are you so sure i'm scum?

because i read marv's case and then i read your posts.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 15:17 GMT
#1638
On October 01 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all

Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum.

...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all.

So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb.
That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that.


you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all

that's because the town was also retarded.
that doesn't change the fact YOUR SCUMTEAM AS A WHOLE called me mafia and i caught you all.
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September 30 2015 15:19 GMT
#1642
On October 01 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all

Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum.

...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all.

So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb.
That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that.


you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all

that's because the town was also retarded.
that doesn't change the fact YOUR SCUMTEAM AS A WHOLE called me mafia and i caught you all.


why are you lying?

that was a damdy/palmar push

no it actually was not. regardless of you or anyone else voted for me that was not.
and prplhz btw did, which is exactly why i figured out he is mafia.
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September 30 2015 15:20 GMT
#1644
One of Trfel/cooliodude is scum but i don't know which one yet.
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Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 15:21 GMT
#1645
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.
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September 30 2015 15:22 GMT
#1647
On October 01 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote:
now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you?

what?1?!?!
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September 30 2015 15:24 GMT
#1649
On October 01 2015 00:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote:
now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you?

what?1?!?!


you can scream what at me all you want. you said you liked the case and read my posts. what in my posts made you go mafia?

i am pretty sure i have laid that out.
i also said i like marv's case.

i am not sure what is so hard to understand here.
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September 30 2015 15:26 GMT
#1654
On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ?

what marv pointed out.
but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town.
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September 30 2015 15:29 GMT
#1662
On October 01 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

i know very well how dumb GB can be

I don't remember which game it was but the game where we lynched Kelsier on D1 and shot Tormented on N1 (yamato conceded on D2), you remember? I am pretty sure you commented in the thread post-game. What GB's conclusions there were were like 1000x worse than the "if rsoultin flips town we lynch marv" or whatever he said. So it's not "out of line" for him to say something dumb like that.
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Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 15:33 GMT
#1670
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?
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September 30 2015 15:37 GMT
#1680
On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?

what do you think that is?

note where my vote remains

GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin.
Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear".

None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz.....

yeah it makes sense.
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September 30 2015 15:51 GMT
#1693
On October 01 2015 00:47 rsoultin wrote:
why are you propagating this shit rayn? @.@

i am not, jsut checked.
i don't argue with scum.
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September 30 2015 15:53 GMT
#1696
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
I just can't argue more than I did anymore.

let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game..
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September 30 2015 16:08 GMT
#1703
It's like magic. GB has been saying that same stuff for the last 2 days and now it becomes relevant.
Truly magical.
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September 30 2015 16:09 GMT
#1706
But let's lynch GB now when before we could have lynched scott, Rels or fuck... even marv!!!
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September 30 2015 16:11 GMT
#1708
On October 01 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like magic. GB has been saying that same stuff for the last 2 days and now it becomes relevant.
Truly magical.


if you're going to attempt to push me, at least pretend like you're putting some effort behind it instead of throwing weak potshots my way

1) not weak
2) no i am not attampting anything, i just find this hilarious
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September 30 2015 16:15 GMT
#1713
On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But let's lynch GB now when before we could have lynched scott, Rels or fuck... even marv!!!


yes...i didn't like GBs posts this morning after those three scumreads

except what you are doing now is questioning him for the same exact thing he has been yelling all game long. And which you didn't have any intention to dig further into above other people (like marv/me). Instead you ended up in a conclusion that marv is mafia and i am fishy (at certain point - when, again, GB was saying THE EXACT SAME STUFF HE IS SAYING HERE).

mmm... yeah no.
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September 30 2015 16:21 GMT
#1721
On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote:
go suck a dick <3

last time someone told me this they were scum and shot me right after on a bright D1.
sorry, i still don't do that. :/
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September 30 2015 16:21 GMT
#1722
On October 01 2015 01:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
it is also very disconcerting coolTLname has his vote on rayn. hm...actually...

weren't you supposed to think i am mafia, no?
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September 30 2015 16:23 GMT
#1725
On October 01 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote:
go suck a dick <3

last time someone told me this they were scum and shot me right after on a bright D1.
sorry, i still don't do that. :/

you should try, it's fun

i am pretty sure i would not prefer that.
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September 30 2015 16:24 GMT
#1728
On October 01 2015 01:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 01 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
it is also very disconcerting coolTLname has his vote on rayn. hm...actually...

weren't you supposed to think i am mafia, no?

rayn, do you like this game? i think you understand what i am asking.

no, not really, i don't.
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September 30 2015 16:31 GMT
#1735
there is actually very little reasons for reading Trfel town.
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September 30 2015 16:34 GMT
#1738
On October 01 2015 01:33 rsoultin wrote:
it's tonal and it's because even if he isn't producing amazing cases or some such he's poking at things that i'd expect him to poke at

i don't expect people to agree with me

well you/trfel/damdred "tone read club" fell apart a couple of games ago so i don't trust shit about what any of you say on each other tonewise regardless of any of your affiliation.
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September 30 2015 16:36 GMT
#1740
the argument was dumb in both ways.
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September 30 2015 16:37 GMT
#1742
like it's really fucking easy to tell what sicklucker was trying to say.
it's really fucking easy to tell he is not trying to make a read out of nowhere.
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September 30 2015 16:39 GMT
#1744
On October 01 2015 01:37 rsoultin wrote:
but as with anything this could be the one exception to the rule! \o/

didn't you just end up with "Trfel is mafia" on N1 when you got shot?
I would dare to say the last game you played with Trfel. He was town.
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September 30 2015 16:42 GMT
#1748
On October 01 2015 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:37 rsoultin wrote:
but as with anything this could be the one exception to the rule! \o/

didn't you just end up with "Trfel is mafia" on N1 when you got shot?
I would dare to say the last game you played with Trfel. He was town.

And yes, Damdred tried to hard-argue you and Trfel are both town in the last game you were BOTH mafia.
And yes, Trfel is voting for YOU here in this game. So.... he is either right or YOU shouldn't even trust his read on you, or if you do you should call him fucking mafia.

so, no, this circle is dead. The only circle there is is "marv reads rayn correctly every game".
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September 30 2015 16:45 GMT
#1752
On October 01 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not as valuable as a town rayn (sometimes)

still voting mafia in over 60% of the games this year D1.
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September 30 2015 16:46 GMT
#1757
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

not true tbh.
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September 30 2015 16:48 GMT
#1760
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not as valuable as a town rayn (sometimes)

still voting mafia in over 60% of the games this year D1.


so? you saying i'm not valuable?

not on D1, no.
later on probably yes, even more valuable then i am (well D2 is pretty close imo).

but in the end it doesn't even matter because you are scum here.
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September 30 2015 16:48 GMT
#1761
On October 01 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

not true tbh.


completely true tbh

the game i was just talking about like a minute ago.
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September 30 2015 16:50 GMT
#1765
On October 01 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
show me one fucking game where i was scum with damdred or truffle and hard townread them ever

Tropical Storm Mini Mafia
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September 30 2015 16:50 GMT
#1768
On October 01 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

not true tbh.


completely true tbh

the game i was just talking about like a minute ago.


i started with suspicion on him try again

yeah and ended up hard defending him when people actually wanted to lynch him.
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September 30 2015 16:52 GMT
#1772
On October 01 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum

not true tbh.


completely true tbh

the game i was just talking about like a minute ago.


i started with suspicion on him try again

yeah and ended up hard defending him when people actually wanted to lynch him.

You literally hard defended him OVER A CASE THAT A COP WHO HAD A FUCKING GREEN CHECK ON HIM BELIEVED......

If that's not hard defending a scumbuddy i don't know what is.
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September 30 2015 16:53 GMT
#1777
Trfel why don't you care about the fack the coolnamedude calls you "suspicious but town"?
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September 30 2015 16:54 GMT
#1779
On October 01 2015 01:52 Damdred wrote:
I wasn't scum that game

I know, but that is a reason why i do not trust your tonereads on rsoultin/Trfel.
I mean i analyze your reads, but if the reasoning is "tone" i can't literally trust it because you were so wrong tonewise in that game.
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September 30 2015 16:58 GMT
#1785
On October 01 2015 01:56 rsoultin wrote:
the amazing hard-defense of truffle that rayn is referring to:

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
truffle not scum ;o;

i think? maybe he is

i dunnae @.@

prob not?


so hard

amazing

wonderful

clearly that was a hard townread

good job rayn

I am sorry but it is a hard defense when you'd rather lynch prplhz or even Chezinu and do not touch my case which was awesome even with a big fucking stick.
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September 30 2015 16:59 GMT
#1788
On October 01 2015 01:56 Trfel wrote:
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On October 01 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel why don't you care about the fack the coolnamedude calls you "suspicious but town"?
Why should I care?

There are several plausible interpretations for the meaning of that phrase. I'd like to know what he really meant by it, but it's not urgent. It's really not incriminating.

Do you find it reasonable for someone to say someone is suspicious but town?
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September 30 2015 16:59 GMT
#1789
On October 01 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Hehe yeah I just got mad and had them as scum early in the game then decided to just not work with anyone.

lol
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September 30 2015 17:01 GMT
#1792
On October 01 2015 02:00 rsoultin wrote:
REGARDLESS you are completely diverting me cause this is not relevant at all

in fact this is quite relevant.
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September 30 2015 17:02 GMT
#1795
On August 16 2015 10:44 geript wrote:
Vote Count

Chezinu (0): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred, Trfel
Trfel (6): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Vivax, Chezinu
rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp]
prplhz (4): Damdred, Artanis[Xp], ruXxar, Trfel, Chezinu, rsoultin

Not Voting (0):

Currently Trfel is set to be lynched.
Day 2 ends on
August 16 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in



geez i guess you werent on him after all.
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September 30 2015 17:04 GMT
#1800
On October 01 2015 02:03 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:56 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel why don't you care about the fack the coolnamedude calls you "suspicious but town"?
Why should I care?

There are several plausible interpretations for the meaning of that phrase. I'd like to know what he really meant by it, but it's not urgent. It's really not incriminating.

Do you find it reasonable for someone to say someone is suspicious but town?
Someone from SC2 Arcade mafia? Definitely.

Last time someone from SC2 Arcade mafia played on TL, they repeatedly told people to stop playing the game because we were supposed to just wait until someone solved the game on day 3-4 with power roles. And that we shouldn't be posting.

fair enough
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September 30 2015 17:05 GMT
#1803
okay

rsoultin/smurfdude/coolio
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September 30 2015 17:06 GMT
#1805
On October 01 2015 02:03 Damdred wrote:
Because you guys destroyed the thread and anyone who wants to catch up can't effectively. I skipped 6 pages meh

no, we didn't. Tina did.
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September 30 2015 17:10 GMT
#1810
On October 01 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
if you're town you're pushing me on something the post you just quoted proves you wrong on lol ><

If i was pushing you based on that i would be saying i am pushing you based on that.
You made an argument you would not hard-defend Trfel if you were both mafia, which is a straight out lie because you have done it before.

I don't need to push you. You are just misremembering, lying, or taking certain things differently ( what is hard-defending and what is not). It doesn't necessarily make you more mafia, and i don't care to figure it out because it doesn't make you more town either.
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September 30 2015 17:13 GMT
#1817
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?
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September 30 2015 17:15 GMT
#1824
On October 01 2015 02:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:10 Damdred wrote:
Here's why GB could be scum, lets tllak about it.

1) Is pretty focused on one or two things without having a true freedom of movement jumping around.
2) While its true GB has a scum read does not really push it instead telling Marv good point and leaving the thread without doing any work.
3)) never in our playing together has GB dropped a read on me like he did when RS told him I was town. Just weird progression on GB in general.
4) Pretty lackluster thread orescrnse and is happy not to be in the lime light unlike usual it feels.
I disagree with your fourth point. GlowingBear has seemed largely present to me (well, when he's here anyway, which is often enough). And it does feel like he's very willing to get attention.

Maybe he's not quite as involved as he normally is as town, but he's on vacation. The way he posts feels exactly the same, even if the quantity/activity isn't quite there (it's close, though). I find it much more reasonable that he is town on vacation rather than mafia.

In fact all the points are kinda wrong.
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September 30 2015 17:15 GMT
#1825
On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town?

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September 30 2015 17:18 GMT
#1833
On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote:
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia

you mean this post?
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September 30 2015 17:21 GMT
#1843
On October 01 2015 02:20 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:16 coolTLname wrote:
Sicklurker, Rayn, and GB. Mafia Stop derailing thread mafia , thx. im not answering something i've already answered.

just popped in before i go workout

could you quote where you answered it please?

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote:
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 10:34 coolTLname wrote:
it's true Trfel isn't really playing , but he posted at the beginning he was really busy with

"Basically, I'm going to be spending all of my time composing music, so I won't really be able to play this game. Sorry about that, because I know I'm the only reason that you all signed up"

So yeah, i dunno what to think about that tbh.


that doesn't answer the question.
if you think he is town there should be no reason to think he is suspicious.
because being suspicious = mafia.
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September 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#1846
I think i get Trfel's point.
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September 30 2015 17:24 GMT
#1853
On October 01 2015 02:23 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:20 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:16 coolTLname wrote:
Sicklurker, Rayn, and GB. Mafia Stop derailing thread mafia , thx. im not answering something i've already answered.

just popped in before i go workout

could you quote where you answered it please?

On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote:
I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia

On September 30 2015 10:34 coolTLname wrote:
it's true Trfel isn't really playing , but he posted at the beginning he was really busy with

"Basically, I'm going to be spending all of my time composing music, so I won't really be able to play this game. Sorry about that, because I know I'm the only reason that you all signed up"

So yeah, i dunno what to think about that tbh.


that doesn't answer the question.
if you think he is town there should be no reason to think he is suspicious.
because being suspicious = mafia.

Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks.

sure. i just don't have anything to say about this days lynch anymore.
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September 30 2015 17:26 GMT
#1858
On October 01 2015 02:25 GlowingBear wrote:
WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BUS ON DAY 1?

How can you fucking say there is someone bussing without a fucking flip?

Just vote the scummiest, it's almost impossible to have a scum team out of associafion day1. I find that whoever does this on day1 is usually Mafia.

now this is funny because you don't really think scott is scum....
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September 30 2015 17:27 GMT
#1860
On October 01 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
hey truffle my question wasn't for kicks and giggles

what's the point of even asking me whether or not we could be scum together? -_- we'd both know that and rayn used it to completely get me off topic cause i have no self-control @.@ and need to find some
I already answered this....

I still do not understand why we can't be mafia together at all. If you are saying that we can't be mafia together, and there is no reason for this claim, then I think that you are mafia.

In case you missed my previous post, I don't think that your explanation makes sense because your townread on me this game and last game (when we were both town) is about the same, and you reversed it to a scumread there. Your townread on me here isn't a completely hard townread like you claim it is, and you have room to change it. Plus you could not bus me here unless you wanted to do so before the wagon on you started, which wouldn't be a good play.


okay?

you just said that you thought i couldn't reverse my read given my townread earlier, and now you're claiming i'm not hard townreading you?

like i really don't get this, truffle. i'm not scum so by definition we can't be bussing each other.

by definition.

you are either scum and know that i'm not scum

or you are town and know that we're not both scum

like literally, to you, we can never be bussing each other either way, and i don't see why you're pursuing this if you're town? there is 100% reason that we're not mafia together and that's that i'm not mafia and either way you know we're not mafia together

like wtf ><
Oh, sorry, I see what you're saying.

You can't reverse your read on me here after you get votes on you. That would result in you being lynched. It would be extremely opportunistic.

If this wagon had never happened, then you could have reversed your read on me.

You said that Rels is mafia because he switched his vote from me (his scumread) to you, who can't be mafia with me (from Rels' perspective). That is why this is important.

townpile
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September 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#1867
On October 01 2015 02:29 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:21 coolTLname wrote:
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3


nh

eh, like...if truffle's town cool doing this doesn't make much sense from mafia, and i think truffle's town?

but why do you think truffle and i are solid town?

Thats a good question , i will compile some stuffs for the thread. But mostly because theres commonly a mislynch day 1, and the way the people i think are mafia are voting/ behaving. Like super chill and relax.. like Aha theres 2 town being lynched, we can just chill. and now look what GB and his minions are freaking out

no.

be back in 15 minutes with some reads as rsoultin you've posted a ton of shit , just saying townies post lots, mafia are usually more quiet.
*

this would by default make you mafia btw.
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September 30 2015 17:35 GMT
#1873
On October 01 2015 02:33 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:29 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:21 coolTLname wrote:
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3


nh

eh, like...if truffle's town cool doing this doesn't make much sense from mafia, and i think truffle's town?

but why do you think truffle and i are solid town?

Thats a good question , i will compile some stuffs for the thread. But mostly because theres commonly a mislynch day 1, and the way the people i think are mafia are voting/ behaving. Like super chill and relax.. like Aha theres 2 town being lynched, we can just chill. and now look what GB and his minions are freaking out

no.

be back in 15 minutes with some reads as rsoultin you've posted a ton of shit , just saying townies post lots, mafia are usually more quiet.
*

this would by default make you mafia btw.

so then vote me , otherwise stop derailing thread mafia . Id be okay with a lynch on me rather than rsoultin

question;
are you a fucking idiot or what? yes, i am 100% serious here.
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September 30 2015 17:36 GMT
#1876
like what the fuck is that guy`???
"playing mafia". What a fucktard. Literally.
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September 30 2015 17:39 GMT
#1878
i need to take a walk
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September 30 2015 17:56 GMT
#1888
On October 01 2015 02:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay guys, this is actually very simple.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv i hope you are town.
i am gonna try if i am. not mafia. too time consuming. <3

rayn literally said he would not care if he was Mafia.

If we look at what he’s done so far, he’s been freewheeling and attacking things that he can remember without much effort.
This recent push on rsoul also show how little effort he’s employing. He’s relying on meta which he almost never does and is getting things wrong about what happened in the thread. rayn’s also missed out on several inconsistencies but hasn’t really cared to remember things that have happened in this thread. I asked people to read the argument between rsoul and rayn, because it’s actually a pointless argument where rayn is just trying to nail her down.

rayn is Mafia and he doesn’t want to be it and has already said he’s not enjoying the game.

#freerayn2015

what?

1) I am not relying on meta on anything i have ever said on rsoultin in this game. I am pointing out how HER meta "i can't do this or that" is bullshit. I am not the one making the arguments.
2) I missed one inconsistency on GB. Which is clear why. I read him town, i said i won't read his posts.
3) I am not trying to nail anything down, see (1).
4) I cared about the game as much as i could, until morning. Then i decided to care again when marv became 100% town. I am caring. If you can't see who is mafia it doesn't make me mafia, it makes you stupid.
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September 30 2015 18:00 GMT
#1891
On October 01 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn, what do you think of sicklucker?

town
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September 30 2015 18:04 GMT
#1894
Still no. I don't understand what you are getting at.
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September 30 2015 18:12 GMT
#1896
On October 01 2015 03:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Just vote cool TL name, he is coming with all sorts of bad arguments

Do you understand you are getting lynched here if you do not vote for rsoultin?
There is one mafia on you atm, you are tied with her and one mafia will switch his vote from rsoul to you.
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September 30 2015 18:14 GMT
#1897
Bleh 2 mafia on you.
But anyways those other people are swingy and shit anyways.
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September 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#1899
Like if you think LightningStrike and sicklucker will vote for rsoultin over you in ANY FUCKING CASE....
meh...
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September 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#1900
On October 01 2015 03:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Just vote cool TL name, he is coming with all sorts of bad arguments

Do you understand you are getting lynched here if you do not vote for rsoultin?
There is one mafia on you atm, you are tied with her and one mafia will switch his vote from rsoul to you.


I don't care, I just want to try and lynch Mafia. If towbies are stupid and lunch me / does not consolidate, then it's their fault

well rsoultin is mafia.
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September 30 2015 18:17 GMT
#1903
On October 01 2015 03:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still no. I don't understand what you are getting at.

sicklucker made a false statement. I don't see you jumping all over it for some reason like you did with J Roc.

where?
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September 30 2015 18:24 GMT
#1906
On October 01 2015 03:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, tell me where he reacted to some information and used it to link all the players he is linking.

He has being playing just like Shockey in that game he was always just considering scum teams

I know he is likely to be mafia but both of rsoultin & J Roc are more likely.
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September 30 2015 18:28 GMT
#1908
On October 01 2015 03:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Still no. I don't understand what you are getting at.

sicklucker made a false statement. I don't see you jumping all over it for some reason like you did with J Roc.

where?

In the post I quoted. Open the nested stuff.

You mean the "rayn never claimed scum"?
In fact i kinda called sl mafia for it later. In a jokingly manner because i wa already kinda sure it doesn't even mean anything. I don't consider that as a scumtell in itself because sl is not... necessarily the most careful reader. You know you should read people as what hey do and are capable of as people. I don't consider all the people the same.
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September 30 2015 18:37 GMT
#1909
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.
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September 30 2015 18:39 GMT
#1910
I odn't even think you are scum but your read on me is completely dumbass.
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September 30 2015 18:45 GMT
#1911
Okay i lied maybe i consider Ver also better than i am.
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September 30 2015 18:49 GMT
#1916
On October 01 2015 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i lied maybe i consider Ver also better than i am.

the maybe is because he made me a town pardoner once which is retarded as fuck.
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#1920
On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..

yeah totally what i did. good job.
are you planning on reading the thread soon?
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September 30 2015 18:53 GMT
#1922
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin?
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September 30 2015 18:55 GMT
#1924
pfff... havn't = hadn't which should be fucking obvious for anyone reading anything i have ever wrote in this game.
Sorry i don't live in USA you jackasses.
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September 30 2015 18:58 GMT
#1929
Fuck you Trfel, why do you have to be "an idiot" for the first 40 hours of the game and then play?
no need to answer tbh.
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September 30 2015 19:01 GMT
#1930
On October 01 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin?


on what?

don't even pretend you don't know what i am talking about
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September 30 2015 19:08 GMT
#1935
On October 01 2015 03:48 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:14 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote:
scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously ><

and this post proves it.


so why haven't you been pushing me all game?

Because i have not read your posts.
Is that so hard to understand?


then why are you so sure i'm scum?


solely because i said that damdred's response to you was factually true? it was

you call me scum when i'm town and town when i'm scum ever since you returned to the site lol >< what sort of mental thought process would you have to be employing to simply decide i'm scum and not read my posts, not push me, but support a push on me?

rayn .. is so obviously mafia XD

On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..

On October 01 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..

yeah totally what i did. good job.
are you planning on reading the thread soon?

On October 01 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..


eh yeah

and he did give reads on me before earlier too but i still think he's town and it's frustrating ><

did you ever say why you were reading truffle town? because your consolidate on gb thing makes no sense at all without a strong read on truffle

On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin?

On October 01 2015 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
pfff... havn't = hadn't which should be fucking obvious for anyone reading anything i have ever wrote in this game.
Sorry i don't live in USA you jackasses.

On October 01 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never ever fucking said so.
Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin?


on what? like, you've been posting on me when i know i'm town so that's not really that interesting to me tbh...i know you want to lynch j roc but i'm not sure why you think gb is town

i could filter dive and still probably have questions but it would be better if you just answered...or keep tunneling me to a mislynch that works too lol ><



All these posts are NEARLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER in this thread.
You know for a fact i am not a native english speaker and jsut because i happened to write has instead of had the context of my post "changes so much you for some reason can't anymore understand what i was talking about there". Fucking bullshit to the fullest.
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September 30 2015 19:16 GMT
#1941
On October 01 2015 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ?

what marv pointed out.
but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town.

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September 30 2015 19:18 GMT
#1944
Yeah and also we are never lynching GlowingBear.
We are lynching rsoultin.
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September 30 2015 19:19 GMT
#1948
On October 01 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ?

what marv pointed out.
but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town.



that wasn't why you read him town initially though?

i'm asking about your initial read

also...marv did say he could be reasonable as scum so i'm not sure that's a good enough reason? maybe your initial read was?

yes it was.
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September 30 2015 19:19 GMT
#1949
i read one post.
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September 30 2015 19:21 GMT
#1951
I have never read GB wrong in any game afaik except once which was when he was "too dumb to be scum" and lost that play there.
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September 30 2015 19:29 GMT
#1960
On October 01 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have never read GB wrong in any game afaik except once which was when he was "too dumb to be scum" and lost that play there.


you've gotten mad at him a lot?

i dunnae i don't remember

and no no no

fuck it rayn come on

you townread him super early...this post was today! like seriously ><

i town read him for his early posts.
i always read him for his early posts.
then i ignore.
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September 30 2015 19:30 GMT
#1962
On October 01 2015 04:27 coolTLname wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31

So after i vote Rayn, GB suddenly shows up again and posts a lot to distract from what im saying.

Also someone mentioned before that GB was being "mechanical" and i agreed. i think rsoultin mentioned that GB usually posts like a crack addict as town, and thats definitely not happening.

If anything i think his reads are pretty mediocre (and im new lol ) and he hasn't been doing much reading or anything helpful except one block of text that was really hard to read, no spaces or anything.

and now he suspects me, im not sure what to think about that, but i think i look town for the most part? Also if u notice, by voting me , he is making it more likely for rsoultin to be lynched, which is the bigger threat to mafia. I also noticed rels doing this same thing by sliding down his vote to me, but town prob

mmm and your read is shit because i am not mafia nad you can't even fucking use that a read unless i flip mafia so you are pushing the wrong person, sir.
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September 30 2015 19:31 GMT
#1963
try arguing why i am scum. much success so far?
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September 30 2015 19:31 GMT
#1964
and yeah i act as a dick towards dickheads.
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September 30 2015 19:33 GMT
#1967
On October 01 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have never read GB wrong in any game afaik except once which was when he was "too dumb to be scum" and lost that play there.


you've gotten mad at him a lot?

i dunnae i don't remember

and no no no

fuck it rayn come on

you townread him super early...this post was today! like seriously ><

i town read him for his early posts.
i always read him for his early posts.
then i ignore.


okay but what about his early posts made you think he was town?

he was not being a total dumbass.
everything i read, i don't remember when i stopped and i don't really care to argue about that rn.
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September 30 2015 19:36 GMT
#1970
hey rsoultin, this is also a tone read. one of my only one's, where i actually fucking trust.
i had one on palmar, which failed the last game, which is why it makes this one of the two i have.
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September 30 2015 19:36 GMT
#1971
On October 01 2015 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:32 scott31337 wrote:
Where I'm at from town-y to scummy (rough order)

Maervellosity - Showing his town meta - believes in his Rsoul case and it makes sense - Rsoul called him scum lol but changed it up

Shining - He pulled out the Shining magic when he had time to come in, good thoughts - pointed out LS and helped me look him over again

Raynpelikoneet - Believing in the case - strong motives - Still thinks J Roc/I am mafia though - just a slight difference than his last game though

Rels - Showed good thoughts in re-evaluating, espically going over Rsoul

Sicklucker - He's freeflowing - nothing like how he was as Wile a game ago

GlowingBear - At first he seemed quite a bit different as last game - but he seems to have not re-evaluated Trfel after new information after I have - is on a trip (but not the D1 lynch) - his colorful list post was pretty bad.

Trfel - He was looking pretty bad, but calculated with Rsoul about being a team/not a team - made sense from a townie - looks better - not today's lynch

MoosyDoosy - Him looking for help in his "townie circle" again when he did the exact same thing when he was mafia - points about the "mechanicalness" about GB - thinks Trfel mafia - wants to lynch rayn - "if rayn flips town, i lynch coolTLname and look into rsoultin again."

Damdred - Still a mixed bag - was his anger too much? He's had a few good thoughts, but then wants to lynch GB (did want to lynch LS, which I could agree with)

LightningStrike - at first I thought it was a bit town meta - but after I re-read a second time after Shining pointed it out - there's nothing of substance. I've even pointed this out to LS, and has not expanded on it - the two/three paragraph posts are like announcer play by plays, but with out any input. Could lynch

CoolTLName - This guys views are so opposite of mine it makes me wonder - hard defends rsoul - like "Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks." irks the hell out of me. Could lynch

Rsolutin - I like marv's case, the scummers come out to defend - had "rels / marv / scott" lynches - then I disappear - some reads are really weird - want to lynch / voting


also, rayn, why do you think your top scumread is pushing me if i'm scum?

because he does not have an option.
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September 30 2015 19:38 GMT
#1974
On October 01 2015 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 04:32 scott31337 wrote:
Where I'm at from town-y to scummy (rough order)

Maervellosity - Showing his town meta - believes in his Rsoul case and it makes sense - Rsoul called him scum lol but changed it up

Shining - He pulled out the Shining magic when he had time to come in, good thoughts - pointed out LS and helped me look him over again

Raynpelikoneet - Believing in the case - strong motives - Still thinks J Roc/I am mafia though - just a slight difference than his last game though

Rels - Showed good thoughts in re-evaluating, espically going over Rsoul

Sicklucker - He's freeflowing - nothing like how he was as Wile a game ago

GlowingBear - At first he seemed quite a bit different as last game - but he seems to have not re-evaluated Trfel after new information after I have - is on a trip (but not the D1 lynch) - his colorful list post was pretty bad.

Trfel - He was looking pretty bad, but calculated with Rsoul about being a team/not a team - made sense from a townie - looks better - not today's lynch

MoosyDoosy - Him looking for help in his "townie circle" again when he did the exact same thing when he was mafia - points about the "mechanicalness" about GB - thinks Trfel mafia - wants to lynch rayn - "if rayn flips town, i lynch coolTLname and look into rsoultin again."

Damdred - Still a mixed bag - was his anger too much? He's had a few good thoughts, but then wants to lynch GB (did want to lynch LS, which I could agree with)

LightningStrike - at first I thought it was a bit town meta - but after I re-read a second time after Shining pointed it out - there's nothing of substance. I've even pointed this out to LS, and has not expanded on it - the two/three paragraph posts are like announcer play by plays, but with out any input. Could lynch

CoolTLName - This guys views are so opposite of mine it makes me wonder - hard defends rsoul - like "Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks." irks the hell out of me. Could lynch

Rsolutin - I like marv's case, the scummers come out to defend - had "rels / marv / scott" lynches - then I disappear - some reads are really weird - want to lynch / voting


also, rayn, why do you think your top scumread is pushing me if i'm scum?

because he does not have an option.


and truffle and gb aren't options? be real

not really, no. he'll claim 100% mafia if one of those flips scum.
Even if you lynch town D1 that is a disaster.
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September 30 2015 19:38 GMT
#1975
scum=town
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September 30 2015 19:41 GMT
#1977
Basically Trfel is not gonna get lynched here and GB is one his strongest townreads so....
he can only shoot himself into foot.
someone else needs to push a lynch from your team, sry bby.
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September 30 2015 19:43 GMT
#1979
it's kinda shitty if you have a coolerdude isn't it?
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September 30 2015 19:43 GMT
#1980
On October 01 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
you've made this quite miserable for me above and beyond what probably it ever should be

tbh i was not the one who told the other one to go suck dick.
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September 30 2015 19:56 GMT
#1986
I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina.

But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck.

You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread.

You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games.

You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does.

You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him.

You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact.

GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town.

And now it's too late.
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September 30 2015 20:00 GMT
#1987
For the third paragraph, no, "i re-evaluated my read" is not enough. It is just nonsense.
If someone askas you to fully explain something then you do. Or do not. But if you get lynched for it and are town, it's your fault.
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September 30 2015 20:01 GMT
#1988
inb4 this colliodude comes in and calls me mafia because "rayn knows rsoultin is town" no;
i am trying to be polite towards a person i fucking respect, unlike you.
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September 30 2015 20:03 GMT
#1991
well who is mafia then?
i am telling you gb is not one.
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September 30 2015 20:06 GMT
#1996
I'll be honest with everyone, i am not changing my vote onto anyone but scott.
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September 30 2015 20:07 GMT
#1999
On October 01 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote:
i have better things to do such as defend rsoultin directly or accuse the glowing bear/ rayn and possibly sicklucker one of whom have 3 votes on.

not really, you are accusing 3 townies.
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September 30 2015 20:07 GMT
#2002
On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well who is mafia then?
i am telling you gb is not one.


i still think he could be? like you've been wrong before, even if you're town, so i don't know why you'd expect me to trust your read over mine here

have i? when?
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September 30 2015 20:08 GMT
#2003
On October 01 2015 05:06 sicklucker wrote:
Cool have you figured out which one of me and rayn is the roleblocker and the gf yet?

ahahah ^^
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September 30 2015 20:09 GMT
#2005
On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
i do think scott could be mafia but i know that i tend to read him mafia and i don't have strong reasons for it really so i'm not trying to push him over gb. maybe i "should" do it if i'm town, but i'm going to push what i feel strongest about and your toneread just isn't enough to throw my gb read out the window?

I don't care about the read on scott.
My read on J Roc is 100%.

Apparently you have totally dismissed that.
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September 30 2015 20:13 GMT
#2010
On October 01 2015 05:10 coolTLname wrote:
Again Rsoultin literally has a 20 page filter, please don't lynch the obviously very active townie. (most active player)
here Rayn says Rsoultin hasn't been doing anything but shes the MOST active.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina.

But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck.

You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread.

You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games.

You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does.

You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him.

You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact.

GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town.

And now it's too late.


I suspect rayn the most, the above about rsoultin is a total lie, and he claims GB is not mafia , who is his buddy.

the bolded is a total lie.
see what i did there?
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September 30 2015 20:14 GMT
#2014
On October 01 2015 05:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well who is mafia then?
i am telling you gb is not one.


i still think he could be? like you've been wrong before, even if you're town, so i don't know why you'd expect me to trust your read over mine here

have i? when?


we've fought over reads plenty of times. you've been right on some, i've been right on some, but you're not infallible

oh but i am talking about specifically about GB here.
He can probably back me up.
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September 30 2015 20:15 GMT
#2016
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.
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#2020
On October 01 2015 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
why is GB town? i'm sure you explained somewhere but i forgot and i still have lots of things to do that are not-mafia before deadline

He is being at least semi-reasonable. You can call that bullshit if you want to.
I have never been wrong on GB in any game after the first time he rolled mafia.
If him/you/someone want to prove me wrong go ahead.
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#2024
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...

well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin.
Your pick.
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#2025
On October 01 2015 05:17 sicklucker wrote:
When me and rayn were mafia (i already mentioned this) he spammed the qt about how bad i was playing but he never bussed. ( also i got nominated for best scum fu rayn!

You actually "claimed mafia" quite early in the game but unlike Palmar i didn't point that out because i had other shit to talk about instead.
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#2029
On October 01 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong

it makes him fucking mafia because he is a smurf who is actually capable of playing this game and at least claims he knows me very well.
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#2031
On October 01 2015 05:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...

well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin.
Your pick.

we can do it. i'm feeling weak and my lack of confidence from the last 6 months or so is catching up with me xD

have you read/evaluated scott's posts at all?

not really. i have read them but there is pretty much nothing interesting in there.
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#2043
On October 01 2015 05:23 sicklucker wrote:
acualy rstoulin talking for 20 pages and not coming up with any solid reads reminds me of that first game we played as town were it took her 6 day to lynch the confirmed mafia hf

...and if rsoultin talks about 20 pages and comes up with no solid reads she is likely to be mafia.

but mmm... i really don't care. I can lynch J Roc / rsoultin, i am not gonna vote for anyone else.
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September 30 2015 20:28 GMT
#2047
##unvote
##vote: scott
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September 30 2015 20:30 GMT
#2050
i think scott does not flip mafia, J Roc does.
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#2058
anyone not voting for scott gets a scumread.
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#2061
On October 01 2015 05:33 scott31337 wrote:
Rayn's tunnelled on me for my past I had nothing to do with.....

true. sorry
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#2066
On October 01 2015 05:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:35 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:31 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:30 sicklucker wrote:
but i might be biased because scott was the first person to call me town after my many posts 12 hours ago or so. Its interesting because you all kind of agreed with it. IT shows good original thoughts which is town points for him because he came up with something first that everyone else came up with after. But all those people scum read him so probably didnt copy


??

others have called you town?


i donno I could be wrong. He posted it right after me and trefel said alot of things


ah yeah nah at least damdy and i had already townread you and i think rayn had too it wasn't particularly original of him in that sense

hmm not really no.
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#2069
On October 01 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
anyone not voting for scott gets a scumread.

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#2072
hmm... i nned to think.
##unvote
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#2077
On October 01 2015 05:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
why is GB town? i'm sure you explained somewhere but i forgot and i still have lots of things to do that are not-mafia before deadline

He is being at least semi-reasonable. You can call that bullshit if you want to.
I have never been wrong on GB in any game after the first time he rolled mafia.
If him/you/someone want to prove me wrong go ahead.


Hes being semi reasonable, therefore town? This contradicts the LS townread of him that as scum he makes more sense as scum and makes no sense as town. You have to be at least somewhat reasonable to make sense and if GB is making sense, he's scum to LS. What do you think about the LS read on GB?

Like from what I see, you guys have opposite reasons for calling GB town.

well LS is terrible.
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#2081
##vote rsoultin
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#2100
##unvote
##vote LightningStrike
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#2103
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.
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#2105
On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.

THER EIS LITERALLY NO WAY!!!
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#2112
On October 01 2015 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.


huh? seems fine to me assuming he has not caught up

there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets.
no no no.
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#2122
On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.


huh? seems fine to me assuming he has not caught up

there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets.
no no no.


...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered

he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he?

yes
when you went to (1) GB became a "more likely lynch than you did".
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#2126
On October 01 2015 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.


huh? seems fine to me assuming he has not caught up

there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets.
no no no.


...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered

he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he?

yes
when you went to (1) GB became a "more likely lynch than you did".

furthermore there is never a thread sentiment that suggests what LS is saying.
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#2131
On October 01 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
When I was skimming I saw people throwing around Tina, coolTLname and scott as lynch targets honestly so that how I ended up with that list of that I saw were the lynch targets. Also to answer your question Shining I think he scum for his odd play not matching up to what some people said and didn't have good content either.

mmm but you never see anyone saying anything about GB?
seems legit.
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#2138
On October 01 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
When I was skimming I saw people throwing around Tina, coolTLname and scott as lynch targets honestly so that how I ended up with that list of that I saw were the lynch targets. Also to answer your question Shining I think he scum for his odd play not matching up to what some people said and didn't have good content either.

mmm but you never see anyone saying anything about GB?
seems legit.

GB but it wasn't as prevalent as the main 3.

there is about 5 pages of discussion on GB being mafia.
You missed all that while "you were skimming"?
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#2142
..and again i am thinsking "why the fuck am i playing this game again"....
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September 30 2015 21:18 GMT
#2144
On October 01 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
When I was skimming I saw people throwing around Tina, coolTLname and scott as lynch targets honestly so that how I ended up with that list of that I saw were the lynch targets. Also to answer your question Shining I think he scum for his odd play not matching up to what some people said and didn't have good content either.

mmm but you never see anyone saying anything about GB?
seems legit.

GB but it wasn't as prevalent as the main 3.

there is about 5 pages of discussion on GB being mafia.
You missed all that while "you were skimming"?

Did I skim it to quickly. Fuck me just lynch me. LYNCH ME.

i am trying to do that so you just better claim.
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#2151
On October 01 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:
I would rather die than let tina get lynched. I am VT afterall

is she mafia if you are?
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#2156
he can explain it in your scum qt.
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#2162
On October 01 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
well isn't this just lovely.

mmm
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#2166
i would prefer lynching LS/rsoultin tbh
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#2171
##unvote
##vote rsoultin
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#2175
On October 01 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
we're gonna lynch cooltlname and he'll flip town and we'll have nothing

oh well

i believe this, unless;
1) he is dumb as fuck (even dumber than you think)
2) mafia with rsoul
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#2179
On October 01 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote:
Hey guys since can we go back to lynching trefel? i think ls is pretty obv town here. the classic vt claim and that confidence

no
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September 30 2015 21:29 GMT
#2182
rsoul "fucked off" when she was not under pressure anymore.
given that scott is prolly town, mmm... looks legit.
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#2188
On October 01 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoul "fucked off" when she was not under pressure anymore.
given that scott is prolly town, mmm... looks legit.

that's not really fair.

why?
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#2192
funnily it's impossible to prove anything because THE TL TIMESTAMPS ARE FUCKING SHIT!!!!!
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#2195
fuck this design is bad,. so fucking bad.
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#2197
On October 01 2015 06:33 sicklucker wrote:
I think you gotta lay off rsou on this one rayn. she was typing for like 7 hours straight

that doesn't make her anything.
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#2203
I have been in the thread for the last fucking 6 hours every single minute.
I know what i am talking about.
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#2209
On October 01 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote:
like does theShining usually have zero drive to solve the game? i have no idea.

but that's how it reads to me.

why do you care?
find a lynch instead?
this is annoying. he is not mafia.-
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September 30 2015 21:37 GMT
#2215
On October 01 2015 06:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have been in the thread for the last fucking 6 hours every single minute.
I know what i am talking about.


i was gone for maybe an hour in there and I WAS THE LEADING WAGON WHEN I WAS GONE

so by definition you are either SUPREMELY mistaken right now or lying through YOUR DAMNED TEETH

i am proving you wrong tomorrow, your posting frequency and tone went down pretty fucking quickly when you were not the "leading wagon" any more.

I have an intuition on these things and i am not gonna explain it further unless i have to.
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#2219
On October 01 2015 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
i'm so so fucking bored of the current TL meta where people confidently declare multiple people clear town based on nothing

because he says smart stuff.
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#2221
MARV WHEN THE FUCK EVER YOU DONT CARE ABOUT THE LYNCH WHEN SOMEONE YOU HINK IS TOWN IS GETTING LYNCHED?
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#2222
find a lynch if you do not want to lynch rsoultin or coolnamedude, please.
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#2235
On October 01 2015 06:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
i'm so so fucking bored of the current TL meta where people confidently declare multiple people clear town based on nothing

because he says smart stuff.

shit read

.....
On October 01 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MARV WHEN THE FUCK EVER YOU DONT CARE ABOUT THE LYNCH WHEN SOMEONE YOU HINK IS TOWN IS GETTING LYNCHED?

fuck off you pile of shit.

....

okay?
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#2238
mhm... you probably lynched town.
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#2242
i was trying to make you participate.
i guess i was wrong then.
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#2254
i don't even care anymore, i am sad because of marv.
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#2261
yolo
##unvote
##vote scott31337
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#2275
best yolo
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#2279
obvious yolo
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#2282
I FUCKING TOLD YOU HE IS MAFIA!
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#2287
nononononoonnoon...
Damdred is fucking ccing him,.
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#2292
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!
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#2297
DAMDRED COUNTER CLAIMS SCOTT!
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#2308
fucking idiots. i am literally now calling all of you idiots.
i called it fucking so fuck fuck fuck.
did i say fuck?
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#2323
On October 01 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Scott, gb, and sl is possible here.

rsoultin too.
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#2328
On October 01 2015 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 01 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
Scott, gb, and sl is possible here.

i'd throw trfel in there

no
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#2448
ofc Damdred is town, there is no question about it.
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#2449
Do i have to convince anyone that this coolnamedude is scum or can you guys figure it out on your own?
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#2450
Actually based on posts and irregularities & stuff like that mafia would be coolnamedude/rsoultin/LS, but somehow i don't think this works. Or am i reading too much into LS' vote?
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#2452
marv are you here?
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October 01 2015 09:28 GMT
#2455
oh you are; help me out with this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=106

can you read this page until LightningStrike posts and tell me your opinion?
I have zero confidence he is telling the truth here.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:32 GMT
#2459
On October 01 2015 18:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?

there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed.

you mean this?

i didn't understand why you said this at the time tbh

splain to me?

It's like.... ugh... Those things didn't happen..
fuck how to explain it... those things happened at separate times in the thread.
It's like he is picking up something from point A and something else from point B and something from point X and he constructs a scenario from them.

Like he has either read the thread or he hasn't, and his post suggests BOTH.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:39 GMT
#2463
On October 01 2015 18:36 marvellosity wrote:
i kinda assumed when i read it he glanced at the voting thread.

is that not possible?

it's very unusual that a mafia team will keep a running commentary in their QT of exactly who is up for lynch...

he literally said he skimmed the thread in the post where he votes for coolname.
It's like, he is informed enough to know that coolname is a lynch target, but he is not informed enough to know that coolname is a lynch target MAINLY BECAUSE scott claimed.....
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:41 GMT
#2464
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:45 GMT
#2467
On October 01 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
coolTLname was always one of the primary lynch targets?

like did he ever have less than 4-5 votes in the last couple hours

he was the primary lynch target before we started shifting over to scott, and he still was even then

no, but the thing is when people shifted to scott (he didn't have any votes at first), the rsoultin lynch literally died at the same time. -> GlowingBear lynch appeared between a shift to scott.

There is just no fucking point in the game where rsoultin/scott/coolname were main lynch targets.
If he read the voting thread he would have said "hmm looks like GB/coolname/scott are our lynch targets".
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:50 GMT
#2470
Because it makes no sense.
Put these two together:
On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname?


at the same time, in the voting thread:
On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, , Rels, scott31337,
GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
marvellosity (0): Damdred,
scott31337 (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker

Not listing (1): rsoultin,

Like where does he get this? Not from the voting thread.
Also not from the thread either.

I am just asking, where?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 09:52 GMT
#2472
The conclusion doesn't line up with how he says he ended up with.
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October 01 2015 09:57 GMT
#2474
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.
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October 01 2015 10:00 GMT
#2476
anyways gotta make a quick stop at the grocery store, brb
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October 01 2015 10:13 GMT
#2479
On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me.

Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:18 GMT
#2481
marv think it like this:

If you are town and behind the thread you skim it. That's what LS did (in case he is town - which makes him telling the truth). Now put yourself into LS' situation here and look at the posts. The normal things people do when they skim the thread are;
1) am i under attack? do i need to defend myself? (especially from LS' point of view) - well no, okay so good.
2) who do i think is mafia, are they being voted? - well LS doesn't really think anyone is mafia, let's say "fair enough" for shits and giggles
3) i don't think anyone is mafia, who are being voted for so i can try lynch scum? - does it look like he did this?
4) why are the people being voted for are voted for, so i can make a better judgement call? - don't even start....

Every single mafia player does that, as town, because they want to lynch mafia and not get lynched. Sometimes excluding step 1. Now does it look like to you that LS did any of the steps 2-4?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:23 GMT
#2483
On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me.

Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are.


My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on

I think you are focusing too much on "if LS flips mafia it does incriminate me", which it does not.
Read my latest post.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:29 GMT
#2486
On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

1) i don't care. it's not my point.
2) yes but at least that "shit" has direction that can be explained from town perspective. For example from the last game:
people: we think LS is scum
LS: i am not scum geript visited me on N1 and i got a PM from Palmar that he is wandering wraith i am pope.
people: okay okay okay, what are your scumreads?
LS: i think Damdred is scum
people: [discussing if LS claim makes sense or not and what is the best course of action]
people: okay LS, who are your other scumreads besides Damdred?
LS: I think Damdred is mafai i am not mafia i am pope and i swear you will be sorry if you lynch me because i got a PM from Palmar and i did not even understand it at first and i am not mafia and Damdred is mafia for meta i know this you need to lynch Damdred and not me.

Like there is a fucking clear direction on how he approaches things without reading almost nothing in the thread...
Here, not so much....
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:30 GMT
#2487
On October 01 2015 19:27 GlowingBear wrote:
You don't think cool TL is Mafia, Rayn?

I do, i also do think LS would bus in that situation.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:35 GMT
#2490
On October 01 2015 19:33 GlowingBear wrote:
I think rsoultin and cool TL name are Mafia

I have a lot of problems with Tina.

yeah. on the same page. add LS to that.
It would actually explain why he doesn't mention you, doesn't want to tie himself up on supporting your lynch in case rsoultin gets lynched while defending her (yes, i can totally see LS thinking like this as mafia).
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:39 GMT
#2491
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:43 GMT
#2494
On October 01 2015 19:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote")

I think that happened after the counter-claim, no?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:44 GMT
#2496
Oh yeah, on coolnamedude:
4) calls me out for "knowing Damdred will fakeclaim" -> when it's fucking obvious what Damdred meant when he was softing his counter-claim. Like really fucking obvious, at least if you have IQ more than... idk.. something.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:45 GMT
#2497
On October 01 2015 19:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I didn't see it if it happened. Why did she vote scott then?

because we voted for scott after Damdred cc'd.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:48 GMT
#2499
Scott claims tracker.
Damdred makes this set of posts:
On October 01 2015 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Everyone shut up and lynch scott

On October 01 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
I suck maybe I should,be lynched. No I don't believe Scott's claim at all

On October 01 2015 06:53 Damdred wrote:
I'm dead tonight anyway because how I framed things unless there's a medic because I'm not,thinking past my pain meds. Scott has to be dubbing here as I don't believe him.

On October 01 2015 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm dead with no mafia to show for,it just kill Scott tommorow

...it doesn't make much brain cells to figure out what this means.
Even if you are not as quick as i am you should probably figure it out ~10h after the deadline when you read the thread, especially if you are a sc2mafia player who has been solely focused on roles and claims.

mmm.. no, instead he calls me scum for figuring this shit out instantly..
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:50 GMT
#2500
The underlined are, for people who cant figure that out, either a town trait for (1) coolnamedude or (2) how he plays the game.

Both go against his own definition of how town plays.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 10:53 GMT
#2501
On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD

well she is.
after all that me/you stuff on her the push on gb is really fucking suspicious.
you should probably read my post about it.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 11:13 GMT
#2503
On October 01 2015 20:11 sicklucker wrote:
random thought but is it just me or is someone on pain meds/drugs everygame we play. Like I tottaly believe him but it just seems so common here lol. anyway random thought non game related. I mean i been on something like that too last game.



yes, or drunk. especially when me/gb play.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#2507
On October 01 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
i think some of the trouble is having people attacking me most of the day yesterday made it hard to get good reads and i've been thrown off a bit, but still...

this is jsut a straight out lie.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 11:44 GMT
#2509
Two things:
1) the thought process as a whole
2) the factthat if marv feels about something that strongly he is definitely town and also almost definitely right
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October 01 2015 11:46 GMT
#2512
On October 01 2015 20:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 20:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Two things:
1) the thought process as a whole
2) the factthat if marv feels about something that strongly he is definitely town and also almost definitely right


^ these aren't reasons? like these are reasons to think marv is town and probably correct but they don't justify the way you've been pushing at me, do they? you've been acting like i'm lock scum when this isn't even your read, according to you

that's not what you asked though?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 11:50 GMT
#2513
I don't like the way you are twisting arguments all the time rsoultin.
If you ask me "why did you like marv's case on me" that != "why do you think i am mafia" or "those arent the reasons you are pushing me for".

Those things are entirely different things.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 12:02 GMT
#2519
Basically i don't think marv's case on you does make you 100% scum. But i do know that when marv is so confident in his argument he is 100% town, and when he is town AND that confident he is probably right, even if i do not see it. I hadn't read your posts properly before that, for the reasons you i have outlined earlier. When i saw the case i did go back and read your posts.

What stuck out to me was this (why i think you are scum - MY CASE, regardless of marv's);
1) your read change on marv doesn't make logically any sense (in fact this is realted to his case aswell).

When you started arguing about his case, i also scumread you for;
2) your arguments were terrible, and didn't address anything he said, you just yelled "omgus omgus".

When i presented my case (1), you could not reasonable explain yourself, in fact you didn't explain anything at all, which makes (3).

Later on you scumread (or "scumread" i don't even fucking know what the read is besides "itchy") me for "not interacting with me, when you have had ZERO interest in trying to interact with me, while i DO have a reason to not interact with you, as i have explained. The only point where you have interacted with me before that, was when you 100% incorrectly "figured out Damdred's post is factually correct". Bullshit. Then you whine about you not having a read on me when you don't even try to get a read on me how you, as per your own words, read me best; by interacting with me. That would be (4).

(5) your push on GlowingBear is scummy as explained before.

(6) you twist things into looking like something they are not, you are not being clear and you don't even try to be clear.

(7) you don't have any scumreads (until you are being lynched).
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October 01 2015 12:05 GMT
#2521
On October 01 2015 21:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
lol rsoul, I abstained explaining this to coolTLname because I thought it was fairly obvious but if you can't see this, then there's a clear problem here. When rayn + marv started questioning you about your disconnect in reads on marv, I purposely talked about other stuff and stayed out of the thread because I was interested to see how you would react to the pressure. I picked up on it and was going to question you but marv barged into the thread so I decided to let him take over.

yeah like it was really easy to see what you were doing.
but please do not do it again, it's dumb.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 12:08 GMT
#2523
fuck forgot to buy smokes.

brb, jsut because this scumNAMEtlguy likes it.
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October 01 2015 12:19 GMT
#2526
On October 01 2015 21:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc Damdred is town, there is no question about it.

Would we really have gotten two 1 shot trackers though?

I don't care about that.
I care about the fact that if he is fakeclaiming here he has to be mafia with coolTLname, right?
Okay let's assume this is true. He fakeclaims and scott gets lynched. What happens next?
If Damdred does not die during the night he is very very likely to be mafia. coolTLname will most likely die on D2 anyways (like everyone realizes this)... Instead of bussing he decides to make himself look like shit when he is townread by basically everyone in the game..

why? It doesn't make any sense.
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October 01 2015 12:22 GMT
#2528
rsoultin is definitely mafia.
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October 01 2015 12:23 GMT
#2530
I did.
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October 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#2540
On October 01 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote:
i'll double-check that as well...i'll admit this is impressions and i haven't verified it yet, i just don't remember you being the main force behind it

what have you actually read in this game because you don't seem to remember anything?
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October 01 2015 13:36 GMT
#2546
no you are not.
LS will never read the thread if anyone is around.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 13:41 GMT
#2548
55 pages in 37 minutes, that makes ~1,5 pages / minute.
30 posts / minute, around 2seconds / post.

Are you sure you are reading the thread? I mean like reading, not "reading".
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October 01 2015 19:06 GMT
#2609
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Except everything i said was true, what he said is not true.
he didn't even manage to read the posts he answered.
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October 01 2015 19:16 GMT
#2611
I'm trying really hard to be cool right now..
Can someone just vig that guy?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#2613
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.
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October 01 2015 19:32 GMT
#2614
In the above post i took HtS' vote count from :11 and matched the votes up until :39, when scott claimed.
That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes.
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October 01 2015 19:36 GMT
#2615
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.
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October 01 2015 19:46 GMT
#2618
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

Actually you are right here.. hmm..
I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.
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October 01 2015 19:53 GMT
#2621
On October 02 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him.....


Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine.

Yeah it makes sense. Like does he just look at the flip and assume we just decided "scott is not tracker but lying" without anything else happening or what?
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October 01 2015 20:08 GMT
#2628
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:18 GMT
#2635
On October 02 2015 05:14 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:22 coolTLname wrote:
Whatever, i honestly wanted to get lynched because playing with rayn was pretty distasteful. Calling him mafia does not warrant huge shit talking. Hopefully he gets a warning at least


Lol its rayn and this is a game, you've got to learn to take things with a grain of salt. And I didn't really views your willingness to get lynched as this but more as demotivated scum giving up. You only came back to attempt to vote Scott with the rest of us last minute, even though it didn't count. If you wanted to get lynched, you wouldn't have tried to get on that wagon but would have truly just afkd EoD.

The worst thing in that post is that he acts like a cocky bastard towards me when everything he says is completely untrue. Then when i give back what i think people doing that deserve, he goes crying into a corner because "rayn is mean".

I am not unreasonable towards reasonable people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:19 GMT
#2636
On October 02 2015 05:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.

maybe
but it's not really true that she doesn't have reads, she have strong townreads that she stated several times

who gives a fuck about townreads if you can't produce even ONE scumread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:19 GMT
#2637
not to even mention... in over 20 pages of filter.
Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:28 GMT
#2651
On October 02 2015 05:23 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

Actually you are right here.. hmm..
I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.


Which game was that? I'd like to compare. Sorry I just now realized you guys are actually responding to my catch up posts lol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly

D1 end. GB and Moosy's top townreads are only viable lynch candidates. GB claims doctor. I have been pushing Moosy's top townread all game. He asks ME "fuck rayn, what do we do"???? Like isn't it obvious what do we do in my opinion.

D2 start. i counter-claim GB. Moosydoosy is "convinced that neither of the claims is mafia". That is his first impression, when the claimed doctor did not even die during the night.

D3 start. rayn dies. Moosydoosy starts yelling "lol rayn townread me", when in fact i had scumread him ALL GAME, and made a post where i stated "okay let's assume you are town for the rest of the night phase, jsut so i can have a reasonable conversation with you".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:29 GMT
#2653
There was also something else i quoted to geript on TS at soem point but i forgot about it and do not really care to search.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:47 GMT
#2686
My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16
starts from ~half of that page (N1).

coolnamedude is mafia.
rsoultin is mafia.
LighntningStrike is mafia

in that order of confidence.

MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town.

I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:49 GMT
#2688
in fact sicklucker goes to the same pile with Moosydoosy just because i forgot he exists in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:03 GMT
#2697
If i die i actually expect people to go read my filter and what i say.
Don't be newbies / forget everything dead townies say like in NSM game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:08 GMT
#2699
Like literally, for anyone with any sort of clue on what has happened in this game this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=131#2604
..and what happened after that should be a no-brainer.

I don't care to argue with rsoultin about this;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=126#2519
i hope you read it with keeping in your mind what ACTUALLY happened in the game at those times.

My case on LS is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=125#2481
you have to read some posts (maybe ~2 pages) prior to this post to understand what i am talking about.

If you remember nothing else about this game after deadline, remember this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:10 GMT
#2700
I don't care talking about Moosy myself atm, because i am way more convinced that the other three people are mafia. Also other people are doing it already, and we can't all be dead after N1. They will probably remember what they posted aswell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:15 GMT
#2701
Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:26 GMT
#2708
On October 02 2015 06:19 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure.
You mean the part where I accidentally fell asleep and missed EOD?

I mean the part where you argue with rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:27 GMT
#2712
On October 02 2015 06:25 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
in fact sicklucker goes to the same pile with Moosydoosy just because i forgot he exists in the game.


I dont spam the thread at night like you morons asking people with 1 vote to claim (lol LS). in 5 minutes the game is on

If you don't understand the difference between spamming and discussing reads you truly should not post during the night.
You are the only one who has spammed in this thread during the night phase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:30 GMT
#2715
On October 02 2015 06:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure.


hummm...? how does her alignment confirm his

They are not mafia together and rsoultin is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:31 GMT
#2719
seems like you didn't though...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:32 GMT
#2721
On October 02 2015 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
really not surprised that rayn is pushing me eh. you always get my alignment wrong

This is actually incorrect because i just literally said i am not pushing you..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:40 GMT
#2729
On October 02 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
really not surprised that rayn is pushing me eh. you always get my alignment wrong

This is actually incorrect because i just literally said i am not pushing you..

Edit: think I'm scum

I didn't say that either. I did say that you are showing some characteristics that i have seen in your scumgame.
I didn't say they make you mafia here, in this game, because i have not confirmed that myself yet.
Which is also why i did not call you mafia. I called you possibly mafia due to process of elimination, and given that i am wrong on one / more of my scumreads.

I can't understand why easy things are so fucking hard to understand for certain people.
Like does anyone else think it is not clear what my thoughts on Moosydoosy are?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:43 GMT
#2732
On October 02 2015 06:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
really not surprised that rayn is pushing me eh. you always get my alignment wrong

This is actually incorrect because i just literally said i am not pushing you..

Edit: think I'm scum

I didn't say that either. I did say that you are showing some characteristics that i have seen in your scumgame.
I didn't say they make you mafia here, in this game, because i have not confirmed that myself yet.
Which is also why i did not call you mafia. I called you possibly mafia due to process of elimination, and given that i am wrong on one / more of my scumreads.

I can't understand why easy things are so fucking hard to understand for certain people.
Like does anyone else think it is not clear what my thoughts on Moosydoosy are?

Well, how would i know you used process of elimination to come to the conclusion I'm scum lol?

On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16
starts from ~half of that page (N1).

coolnamedude is mafia.
rsoultin is mafia.
LighntningStrike is mafia

in that order of confidence.

MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town.

I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia.

BECAUSE I LITERALLY FUCKING SAID IT RIGHT HERE!!½!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:43 GMT
#2733
Howe the fuck could you.. indeed?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:01 GMT
#2738
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.

kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:05 GMT
#2741
On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.

kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.


this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3

no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that.

Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways...

So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days.
Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:09 GMT
#2745
On October 02 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.

kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.


this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3

no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that.

Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways...

So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days.
Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game.


no. i'm taking a nap ^^

and i'm doing a reread tomorrow night as i said before. i have more important things than mafia to do, but as i was doing things in my limited time, yes, i posted it

yeah, apparently you have had more important things to do for the past three days while whining you cant get a read on me and saying you will re-read me. While producing 25 pages of nonsense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:09 GMT
#2747
Like i am really fucking mad at you Tine if you are town in this game.
Hopefully i don't have to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:11 GMT
#2750
##vote coolTLname
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:16 GMT
#2754
On October 02 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
like im pretty sure cooltl is always the best vote here. Theres scenarios where mafia did some sick plays to keep him alive (like we lynched a claim powerole it kind of takes mafia voting him to do that...

Oh that and hes the most obv scum.liar ever.

It could also clear rsoutlin who I cant read because she has no reads just many words

Are you scum?
It doesn't clear rsoultin in any way.

Or why does it, in your opinion?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:19 GMT
#2757
On October 02 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
...

i just posted a reads post and he says i have no reads

meh

your reads are not reads.
and you call my evidence "completely subjective".

Like i can't even express what i would want to write here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:19 GMT
#2758
On October 02 2015 07:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
like im pretty sure cooltl is always the best vote here. Theres scenarios where mafia did some sick plays to keep him alive (like we lynched a claim powerole it kind of takes mafia voting him to do that...

Oh that and hes the most obv scum.liar ever.

It could also clear rsoutlin who I cant read because she has no reads just many words

Are you scum?
It doesn't clear rsoultin in any way.

Or why does it, in your opinion?


lol cool spewed rsoul town so hard you not reading his posts? classic tmi

no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:22 GMT
#2761
On October 02 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
...

i just posted a reads post and he says i have no reads

meh

your reads are not reads.
and you call my evidence "completely subjective".

Like i can't even express what i would want to write here.

I have a townread on Damdred and marv. The rest of my "reads" i have to re-evaluate when i am gonna do my re-read."
We sure do know what your re-evaluation looks like right? Like you can do a full 180 or even a 720 if you feel like it, for no fucking reason. So by default, you managed to produce TWO reads on 10 people.

And again, this is after having posted 25 pages of filter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:25 GMT
#2766
GlowingBear i assume you blocked LS right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:28 GMT
#2769
On October 02 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
Show nested quote +
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.

On October 02 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.


coolTLname i am waiting for your answer to this.
Not because it would change anything, just because i think this is hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as asking that one dude what his read on himself is.
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October 01 2015 22:30 GMT
#2774
On October 02 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear i assume you blocked LS right?


Silly rayn

??

did he retract from his claim?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:33 GMT
#2777
On October 02 2015 07:32 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.

On October 02 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.


coolTLname i am waiting for your answer to this.
Not because it would change anything, just because i think this is hilarious.
Almost as hilarious as asking that one dude what his read on himself is.


and im still waiting on your answer to literally lying 7 times because u forgot *cough* didn't read the thread.

Everyone can remember the 7 votes being on me until scott claimed tracker and then damdred counterclaiming so all you're doing is distracting from your own lies.

scott claiming tracker had absolutely nothing to do with me being lynched, i don't even know why you're nit picking over timestamps?

Whereas you just totally missed tons of information , like not knowing rsoultin was a lynch candidate when she was up for for hours, with Trfel. It looked like she would be lynched.

answer why you claim there were 7 votes on you when there was in fact 3? I literally proved that.
You have never proved me lying, that's why YOU are being voted for and not me.
Basic logic that should be clear to like 12yr old.

Again, why were you lying?
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Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:34 GMT
#2779
On October 02 2015 07:33 coolTLname wrote:
the timestamp isnt even the same, 5:11 the votes and 5:39 where scott claimed

Then go to the voting thread and prove me otherwise.
I actually did that, WHICH YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOU READ MY NEXT POST AFTER THAT!!!!!
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October 01 2015 22:35 GMT
#2781
On October 02 2015 07:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear i assume you blocked LS right?


Silly rayn

??

did he retract from his claim?


Yes he said hours ago that he was just angry and wasn't town rb

i had an impression he somehow used that as calling you mafia on N1 no?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:36 GMT
#2783
On October 02 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In the above post i took HtS' vote count from :11 and matched the votes up until :39, when scott claimed.
That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:37 GMT
#2784
On October 02 2015 07:36 coolTLname wrote:
im gonna ignore rayn, i clearly had 7 votes and was going to be lynched day 1 until the scott/damdred claim / cc.

straight out lie.
please stop posting, you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:39 GMT
#2785
and rsoultin somehow cannot see this.
This game is so hilarious.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:42 GMT
#2788
On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-

he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn

between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch

HAHAHAHAHAH!
that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:42 GMT
#2789
On October 02 2015 07:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, don't you wonder why Marv got killed instread of you?

not really, no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:45 GMT
#2792
On October 02 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:33 Damdred wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear i assume you blocked LS right?


Silly rayn

??

did he retract from his claim?


Yes he said hours ago that he was just angry and wasn't town rb

i had an impression he somehow used that as calling you mafia on N1 no?


Probably

is it or isn't it?
i am gonna confirm that myself later on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:46 GMT
#2794
On October 02 2015 07:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-

he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn

between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch

HAHAHAHAHAH!
that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed.


...that doesn't appear to be what he's arguing? he appears to be arguing that he was fine with being lynched over me when he originally got the 7 votes but was happy to vote for scott after damdred cc'd...what are you pushing him for exactly?

read the thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:46 GMT
#2795
LIKE HOW CAN YOU FUCKING CALL ME MAFIA WHEN YOU DONT EVEN READ THE THREAD?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:49 GMT
#2802
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now.
This is what i was arguing about,

HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:51 GMT
#2804
On October 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now.
This is what i was arguing about,

HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!?


i found the other time thank you rayn

mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time?
somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:52 GMT
#2805
...and then you come here telling ME that my case on you is bad, when at the same time you are proving my points.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 22:55 GMT
#2808
On October 02 2015 07:53 coolTLname wrote:
can you stop with the insults and yelling and cursing ? all that type of behavior does is benefit mafia

can you stop lying and answer why you think 3 = 7?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:01 GMT
#2813
On October 02 2015 07:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now.
This is what i was arguing about,

HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!?


i found the other time thank you rayn

mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time?
somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina.


this isn't why i was townreading cool and i haven't been townreading him for quite some time?

like i get that you're saying TINA YOU'RE MISSING POSTS IN A 130 PAGE GAME

but you know

so are you. and so is everyone

nor can i remember everything that everyone has ever said just like everyone else in this game can't remember everything

i just don't like to see people screaming at each other over misunderstandings. clearly i was wrong. carry on

First of all his behavior or how he comes to conclusion on hi "reads" haven't changed since the beginning of the game.
Second, ofc people are missing stuff. Somehow you just miss ALL the stuff i am writing (while telling you can't have a read on me)......
third, also somehow... somehowsomehow, you pick some irrelevant posts and make dumb conclusions about them without investigating into the matter further BEFORE you make the dumb conclusion (or argument -- like here, like with your comment on Damdred early on. If you actually read what i was talking about there, you would see that Damdred's comment was in fact 100% factually INCORRECT [i]when you DON'T take it out of context, but instead see the context where is was posted in[/]i).

So yeah, i guess my suspicions of you are "totally unfounded". rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:01 GMT
#2814
On October 02 2015 08:00 rsoultin wrote:
the tmi thing is really pretty strong. i don't know why he's so certain i'm town

because he doesn't want to lynch a scumbuddy.-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:07 GMT
#2820
then go to sleep and post when you have a clear head.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:10 GMT
#2823
On October 02 2015 08:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 08:00 rsoultin wrote:
the tmi thing is really pretty strong. i don't know why he's so certain i'm town

because he doesn't want to lynch a scumbuddy.-


this sort of thing is going to make me stop talking to you again

I don't care. In my mind that is at least as reasonable reason to assume is true than any other considering his competance in this game. So i don't even know what you are talking about here in the first place.

My comment was purely sarcastic because you cannot literally make anything out of his read on you. Except he is scum, because he claims "biggest filter = town" but "people who post alot are mafia".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:17 GMT
#2830
Yeah the roleblocker stuff on GB means nothing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:21 GMT
#2834
haha^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:25 GMT
#2837
was it at least in a sexy way you thought of him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:26 GMT
#2840
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
I'm still iffy on cool cause apart from the hard defend I can see most of his play coming from newbie town quite easily.

pffff...............
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:30 GMT
#2843
Shining are you seriously entertaining a Mossy lynch over coolTLname?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:36 GMT
#2849
On October 02 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shining are you seriously entertaining a Mossy lynch over coolTLname?


Meh, not after his explained read progression. I thought I caught a slip but him explaining it makes slightly more sense.

It's just alarming to me that Moosy is on my radar and I still think LS could flip scum and they both voted coolTL. There is absolutely no way they're all scum together.

mm well rsoultin is mafia so...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 23:51 GMT
#2853
On October 02 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shining are you seriously entertaining a Mossy lynch over coolTLname?


Meh, not after his explained read progression. I thought I caught a slip but him explaining it makes slightly more sense.

It's just alarming to me that Moosy is on my radar and I still think LS could flip scum and they both voted coolTL. There is absolutely no way they're all scum together.

mm well rsoultin is mafia so...


Same question, because you're pretty adamant about your RSo read. You've echoed and made a lot of points I agree with, outside of RSo, so you're in my town pile, and I can see your train of thought on RSo to the point I'm considering revisiting my read on her so

Are you considering pushing RSo over lynching cool?

no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:00 GMT
#2859
On October 02 2015 08:53 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 08:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shining are you seriously entertaining a Mossy lynch over coolTLname?


Meh, not after his explained read progression. I thought I caught a slip but him explaining it makes slightly more sense.

It's just alarming to me that Moosy is on my radar and I still think LS could flip scum and they both voted coolTL. There is absolutely no way they're all scum together.

LS is scum. On the off chance coolTL is NOT scum I have an alternate read that I'm actually struggling with right now. The problem is that coolTL is such an obvious scum but my alternate read also lines up.


Mysterious post is mysterious.

So you think LS just said fuck it and went for the cool bus D1? Because if he did, he had an excuse for missing EoD which means unless he was lurking and lied about the excuse, he had no way of knowing Scott was going to get CCd and lynched and left his vote on his scummate.

that is not the only explanation.
i can explain it further tomorrow, rn i am too tired to actually go and look at any posts for people because if i do not quote mafia is going to shit on me and then i ahve to, again, argue about shit that should be obvious.

but LS would bus in that situation, taking account certain circumstances.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:32 GMT
#2871
On October 02 2015 09:18 coolTLname wrote:
i think at least 2/3 mafia members are accusing me , keep that in mind for the rest of this day.

How about you explain how 7 = 3?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:39 GMT
#2874
Trfel was simply incapable for making any kind of a decision because he was away.
Unless you want to prove me otherwise.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:39 GMT
#2875
On October 02 2015 09:38 coolTLname wrote:
and rayn was accusing me for voting scott, which i find to be really forced. I think shining hopped onto that as well, you guys said he was obviously town but just take a look into that as well

how is 7 = 3 true?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:48 GMT
#2877
coolTLname this is the last time i am going to be reasonable with you if you continue on the path you have chosen.

The truth is i can prove every single statement you have said about me to be either:
1) a lie
2) you not reading the thread properly.

both of which you consider to be ultimate scum traits.

I already did that once. I have repeatedly asked you how you are going to prove me otherwise. You have failed to do that. However, if you do that, or explain, how you were dumb enough to make an incorrect statement like that, i will move to the next point. And ask you the same thing.

So, in case you for some reason are town in this game i would ask you to take me very fucking seriously, because i guarantee you you will get lynched here over anyone else with interactions like you have provided. That would be a bad thing, regardless of my affiliation, now wouldn't it?

If you are scum i don't really care what you do.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:55 GMT
#2878
Even if you think i am mafia "trying to talk bullshit" this is your chance to prove i am talking bullshit because (from your point of view) people are not seeing that right now, as everyone thinks you are mafia.

So, how is it?
I have like an hour.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:56 GMT
#2879
And ftr if you just conveniently fuck off like the last time it doesn't make you look any better, or me any worse...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 00:59 GMT
#2880
So, here;

You claimed you were at 7 votes when scott claimed.
I said you were at 3 (or 4 if we take account scott's vote - doesn't really make a difference because i assume people post before vote).
you said "rayn is lying". You still say "rayn is lying".

Prove i am lying, or explain this some other way.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:05 GMT
#2884
On October 02 2015 10:01 coolTLname wrote:
You've yet to answer my several accusations so why should i humor your one? You're just very upset and looking for any reason to attack me, which is very offputting for me and everyone else in this game. So stop.

I have answered your accusations by saying you are straight out lying or not reading the thread.
If you are town you want to explain these things to townies who believe me (who you think is mafia) over you (who is supposed to be town). I am giving you a chance to explain those things.

With really simple questions that cannot be misunderstood.

So are you willing to provide reasoning on why i was lying in that case and you were not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:05 GMT
#2885
On October 02 2015 10:03 coolTLname wrote:
And i've already answered anyway, ridiculous.

no, you literally haven't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:07 GMT
#2887
On October 02 2015 10:06 coolTLname wrote:
I already have and anyone else can see that in my filter, so bye.

bye
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:10 GMT
#2889
For the next time do never attack someone who has a burning passion to solve the game. With fucking lies.
Don't act cocky towards them, because you will get what you deserve.
When they are being reasonable, do not... again... act cocky.
Even when you are mafia. That's why you get lynched today and noone will miss you, even your mafia team won't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:11 GMT
#2890
On October 02 2015 10:07 coolTLname wrote:
If you want to accuse me , try doing it with logic and not just empty yelling and cursing.

You must be some kind of a weird individual when you are saying things like this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:15 GMT
#2892
On October 02 2015 10:14 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the next time do never attack someone who has a burning passion to solve the game. With fucking lies.
Don't act cocky towards them, because you will get what you deserve.
When they are being reasonable, do not... again... act cocky.
Even when you are mafia. That's why you get lynched today and noone will miss you, even your mafia team won't.

All i did was accuse you with arguments stating you were mafia. It's not my fault if u take it personally. Im playing the game whereas you're just screaming. And still are.

actually no, i am trying to argue with you about your reasoning, which you are not willing to do.
that makes in fact YOU "screaming". especially considering i am not scumread, you are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:16 GMT
#2893
And i don't take things personally, you do.
I can prove that too,
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:22 GMT
#2895
On October 02 2015 10:19 coolTLname wrote:
Anyway this is a waste of time. one piece of advice for you is don't take this online behavior to real life. you don't know who has nothing to lose.

so you don't want to argue about why you are lying?
check.

i'll just leave the rest of the post untouched because i consider it a personal attack towards me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:26 GMT
#2896
and never try giving me "any advice", please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:51 GMT
#2900
"Things are suspicious. I don't elaborate why.
Also when i do said things they are not suspicious."
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:52 GMT
#2902
Anyways i am off to bed.
Probably won't be posting much today.
I got my evidence already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 01:54 GMT
#2903
On October 02 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote:
I get that he's lied, but I don't see any motivation for him to do this as mafia. He simply misread/misunderstood something. There is no reason at all why he is more likely to do this as mafia than as town. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I don't think so?

post like this make you look super weird tbh....
like do you just ignore the fact i tried to make him contribute onto said things further?
and he responds basically with threatening my life or some fucking thing like that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:02 GMT
#2905
On October 02 2015 11:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote:
I get that he's lied, but I don't see any motivation for him to do this as mafia. He simply misread/misunderstood something. There is no reason at all why he is more likely to do this as mafia than as town. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I don't think so?

post like this make you look super weird tbh....
like do you just ignore the fact i tried to make him contribute onto said things further?
and he responds basically with threatening my life or some fucking thing like that?
No, I don't like that, but unfortunately I think that town players are sometimes stupid enough to play like that. I've seen it way too many times.

I wasn't referring to the post-lie argument, I was referring to the argument over the vote count itself and the nature of whether coolTLname's initial claim had mafia motivation.

well i am referring to the fact he himself considers:
1) lying
2) not reading the thread
as an absolute scumtell.
He is clearly doing both.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:03 GMT
#2906
AND he can't actually prove where i am doing those things, like he claims.-..

so there aren't much options on his alignment here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:08 GMT
#2907
Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this;

You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this.

So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:16 GMT
#2909
On October 02 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul, I don't think you can be suspicious of rayn due to meta reads here.

considering this is coming from a person who has scumread me all D1 this seems like a weird statement.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:20 GMT
#2911
On October 02 2015 11:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul, I don't think you can be suspicious of rayn due to meta reads here.

considering this is coming from a person who has scumread me all D1 this seems like a weird statement.

D1 you had no flames tbh.

but oh i did. at least enough to get warned for it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:24 GMT
#2914
On October 02 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul, I don't think you can be suspicious of rayn due to meta reads here.

considering this is coming from a person who has scumread me all D1 this seems like a weird statement.

D1 you had no flames tbh.

but oh i did. at least enough to get warned for it.

well no flames in terms of scum hunting. even if you were yelling at people in general.

incorrect.i was just sure i found mafia in J Roc and the game was shit so i didn't care.
unless marv started posting for real.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 02:26 GMT
#2915
Like do you understand there is a certain difference in how i approach the game / how much i post depending on if i am not working / if i am working 10h/day?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:00 GMT
#2976
On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote:
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol

well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this.
because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all...

let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:04 GMT
#2983
Trfel which one of us do you believe is right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:09 GMT
#2987
On October 02 2015 14:07 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 14:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote:
yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol

well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this.
because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all...

let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this.

it was just advice bro. it was actually sincere advice, believe it or not. im stressed due to my personal life, and anger triggers anger towards my parents and myself , so forth. i sympathize with you as we are kind of the same, although i admit i did want u modkilled i just like winning. Anyway now that i think you're town, Lets ignore all that

fine, let's not ignore the fact you are mafia.
at least you are not going to convince me you are not in this game ergardless of what you do.
period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:10 GMT
#2989
because, for me, when someone psots 72 hours of pure bullshit, for whatever reason, they cannot be town,.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:13 GMT
#2993
On October 02 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
ye okay lol nite

an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul

rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game

yeah we can talk all you want.
it doesn't change the fact you still have zero scumreads and still don't have a read on me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:21 GMT
#2999
On October 02 2015 14:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
ye okay lol nite

an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul

rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game

yeah we can talk all you want.
it doesn't change the fact you still have zero scumreads and still don't have a read on me.


-shrugs-

you're right. i'm not giving out reads before i do my analysis, which you already know

refer to my how rsoul plays mafia post ^^

not going to just rattle off "reads" because the almighty rayn demands them

besides which, my opinions are in thread sure enough. i'll get to making them so clear an infant couldn't mistake it after i review things

yes and instead of "revisiting things" as you call it you continue to post something completely different.
Not to even remind you have been "reviewing the things" - especially regarding me - for the past 72 hours.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:30 GMT
#3006
Hmm.. for me it seems like you have been making exactly 30 posts after the deadline.
You also have been here for the past 7,5 hours ALL THE TIME, not counting ~2 hours inbetween there,
that would, in my opinion give you a good 5,5 hours to actually do this "review".

But, i guess i can't expect you to do it because making 30 posts about something you cannot be even sure about (because you are unsure about the events in the game as per your OWN words) is fair then.....

yes rsoultin, that sounds very fucking convenient to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 05:37 GMT
#3008
On October 02 2015 14:33 rsoultin wrote:
did you miss the part where i'm still doing schoolwork?

I didn't. As i said this just doesn't look like doing schoolwork.
It doesn't look like playing mafia, as town, either.
It doesn't look like anything because again, you aren't doing anything that can be considered productive.

now is sleep time. it's already too late.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 10:34 GMT
#3018
On October 02 2015 19:24 GlowingBear wrote:
And Rayn, Marv dying instead of you heavily implies you were on the wrong track. You do need to take a step back.

No it really doesn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 11:00 GMT
#3020
I'm gonna go buy cigarettes then i'll explain why you are most likely wrong here GlowingBear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 11:47 GMT
#3021
So here it is. Please read the whole thing because it's actually relevant to this game in other ways aswell.
First i give you some examples;

A while ago i tried to convince a town to lynch someone because they said "this guy is scum because he is pocketing rayn, but i don't think rayn is necessarily town". You might remember the game... I don't actually think anyone in the game really got my reasoning for why it was obvious the guy was mafia, while it was like "i have this pie here. i am eating it with my spoon. If i have taken away the spoon from the table, it's impossible that guy ate the pie with a spoon. If he claims so afterwards, he is a liar." Really obvious? Mmmm.. apparently it wasn't.

Some year(s) ago i made a case on a guy who did the following; First they called someone out on p20. Then afk. Then i asked for their case. They said: "Here is my case [reasoning from page 30-40]". It is obvious that the dude is mafia because it's literally impossible he has thought someone is scum on p20 if his case doesn't have a simple scummy thing on that guy before p20. Seems like a simple thing? Mmm.. guess what, i had to argue for about 20 pages why it is obvious, hell MAFIA ARGUED FOR ME (yes, his scumbuddies) why it is obvious that guy is mafia. I had to draw a fucking mspaint picture to clarify why it is impossible the dude is NOT lying because apparently my words are somehow unclear...

Now let's go to this game, i have a couple of examples. The first one, maybe easier to understand is this:
rayn: TLname the votes piled up on you because scott claimed
TLname: no, i had 7 votes before scott claimed
rayn: [here is proof why you are lying]
rayn: explain
TLname: ......
.....
TLname: i had 7 votes before scott / damdred / cc
rayn: it does not work like that, explain why you are lying
rsoultin:
On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-

he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn

between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch

the thing here is that [u]was not the original argument. I consider rsoultin one of the smartest people in this game. If one of the smartest people fails to realize / doesn't even care what i write / (or twists things around which i believe is the case here -- and noone even calls her out for it) in the first place, how am i supposed to think other people do?

Another one:
J Roc: rayn bussed sicklucker here
rayn: i don't unnecessary bus and everyone knows it, this would be an unnecessary bus, so you are just straight out lying
Trfel: but rayn you bus
Damdred: yeah you bussed there in the game Trfel pointed out.
rayn: what the fuck is this bullshit Damdred, you were in the game?!?!?
rsoultin: Damdred is factually correct.

In fact Damdred is NOT factually correct here. Even if he believes i unnecessary bussed there, that is not the point. The point is the I DON'T BELIEVE IT and i have clearly expressed it in many occasions. The question becomes to; "rayn himself thinks he doesn't unnecessary bus. would this interaction with sl here be an unnecessary bus in his opinion? If yes, then J Roc's "case" is invalid. If no, then rayn could be mafia for what J Roc says".

And that was the point of the argument, not if anyone else than me does/doesn't think if i unnecessary bussed in some other game. I can understand someone having a different view from the XXX game, but saying "Damdred's argument is factually correct" is just bullshit, because it doesn't have anything to with the original argument.



It brings me to this:

If i get shot here the following will happen. My reads are proven to be legit, as in a sense that i actually believe in what i am saying (as in i am confirmed not mafia). When this happens, me, and everyone knows marv WILL actually go read what i wrote about people and will evaluate if he thinks i was right or not. He definitely did not do that during N1, so actually NOONE knows where he stood by the end of the night phase. Marv is way more persuasive than i am. It is a fact, just because apparently my writing skills are the poorest on this site and often times i have to yell my lynches through -- which makes people ignore me. Marv also understands me. Therefore, if marv dies - regardless of if i am right or not - mafia has a person (rayn) alive, who is way more easier to ignore/discredit/what the fuck ever people are always doing than marv is. 100%.

And that is the reason why marv dying does not make me "wrong" like you suggest here GB. If i am 100% right on my reads and they are good, marv will read them in case i die, and it is 100% more likely he actually believes me than any other person in the game and actually gets those people lynched.[/i]
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:11 GMT
#3024
Your first two sentences proved your post wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:14 GMT
#3026
And in fact i never wanted cool lynched on D1 over other people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:14 GMT
#3027
On October 02 2015 21:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your first two sentences proved your post wrong.


how so?

maybe you didn't notice, but when you were enjoining gb to vote for me when he switched to cool, i was already leading the votes with 4 votes. the next person was 3

Hmm maybe you didn't notice but when MARV wanted you lynched, you were getting lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:15 GMT
#3028
When MARV said "if you feel so strongly about scott i will sheep you", scott was getting lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:16 GMT
#3030
and now again when you want cool to be lynched

he is going to be lynched

no, everyone wants cool to be lynched already. I don't have to do anything about it.
and for the record marv is not even alive so your argument is factually incorrect.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:18 GMT
#3032
rsoultin do you even think about why certain things happen in this game?

saying i was the main reason you were getting lynched is just straight out bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:23 GMT
#3035
Ofc you are gonna say so because you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:29 GMT
#3040
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.

Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:32 GMT
#3042
On October 02 2015 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
did anyone notice he literally revokes everything he said and did in that post of his...


look, seriously...the guy is already being railroaded

let him talk freely and don't ping him like this. rayn's approach where he throws zingers and sarcasm is both demoralizing and tilting at once, and if cool is town, this is not the way to help him show that to us


thats pretty townie

I don't see how this is townie at all.
Just because Moosy's post is 100% right.

Like should we not call scummy things scummy or what do you suggest?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:33 GMT
#3045
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:38 GMT
#3049
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:39 GMT
#3051
On October 02 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.


eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying

yeah obviously, when rayn tries to be reasonable let's take all the things he has said and call it an "approach" but when someone else does the same thing "give him some room".

And then people call this townie.
You are good at saying what people want to hear, i admit that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:51 GMT
#3057
On October 02 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:40 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh


lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again


at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind

this is just a straight out lie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:52 GMT
#3059
On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there

I don't understand, can you elaborate further?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:52 GMT
#3060
On October 02 2015 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
rstoul i just read your posts. and I learned nothing about your reads on this game. they are absolutely filler. Like you are the filler posting champion. Like you are the god

OHHH SOMEONE GETS IT! <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:54 GMT
#3062
On October 02 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:40 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh


lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again


at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind

MoosyDoosy i'd like your opinion on this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:04 GMT
#3065
On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.


Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD


???

like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter

who was he pushing on N1?
This is where he ends up on Trfel:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.

"He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me".
So who was he pushing then?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:05 GMT
#3066
And we another case of "twisting the information to look like it's in my favor".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:08 GMT
#3071
On October 02 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


On October 01 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.


On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD


???

like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter

who was he pushing on N1?
This is where he ends up on Trfel:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.

"He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me".
So who was he pushing then?


do you see him pushing anyone after that retraction, rayn?

no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?!
ridiculous.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:10 GMT
#3073
On October 02 2015 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there

I don't understand, can you elaborate further?


Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 07:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

Tonight, I am banning scott31337 permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 1 has ended.



its interesting that the people suspect of being mafia did not vote scott. Mafia knew scott was a power role so they always vote/push him if there competent. I would suspect all 3 mafia to vote scott in this spot. but it was acualy the most town read people in the game that pushed it. / rayn / rstou / rels /shining .

Theres always mafia in there. No way scott gets lynched there without some mafia help and they have all the motivation. Some mafia might just have been afk for example if ls is mafia he was with his mom.

MAFIA KNOWS SCOTT IS A REAL POWER ROLE. they always vote him. Im acualy laying off of trefel because he didnt. 2 mafia probably voted scott and the third is probably cool who is an idiot so he does not count.


FUck i forget all that I wrote it was so good. Basically rsou/rels/shining are way more likely to be mafia because of how they voted scott. While the people who voted coolt are more likely to be town. not just because coolt is mafia but because he is never a town powerole the way he gave up. Like marv gave mafia the perfect reason to lynch a powerole (we have to assume mafia knows scott is really a powerole when he claims since hes not on there team)

Marv gave them the perfect excuse to vote scott too. unless the mafia was afk they always snap vote scott here. Also I think its less likely a mafia would be afk at a deadline.

I think the mafia team is probably coolt/rsou + one of shining/rels.

It can still be trefel but I feel hes not trying at all.

I don't think you have read the EoD1 quite closely....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:10 GMT
#3075
On October 02 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


On October 01 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.


On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD


???

like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter

who was he pushing on N1?
This is where he ends up on Trfel:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.

"He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me".
So who was he pushing then?


do you see him pushing anyone after that retraction, rayn?

no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?!
ridiculous.


no i think that given his posting he at least thinks there's a fair chance i could be town. given the posts above. you did read them?

yes i did read them.
no, that's a ridiculous conclusion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:13 GMT
#3079
On October 02 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there

I don't understand, can you elaborate further?


On October 02 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 07:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

Tonight, I am banning scott31337 permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 1 has ended.



its interesting that the people suspect of being mafia did not vote scott. Mafia knew scott was a power role so they always vote/push him if there competent. I would suspect all 3 mafia to vote scott in this spot. but it was acualy the most town read people in the game that pushed it. / rayn / rstou / rels /shining .

Theres always mafia in there. No way scott gets lynched there without some mafia help and they have all the motivation. Some mafia might just have been afk for example if ls is mafia he was with his mom.

MAFIA KNOWS SCOTT IS A REAL POWER ROLE. they always vote him. Im acualy laying off of trefel because he didnt. 2 mafia probably voted scott and the third is probably cool who is an idiot so he does not count.


FUck i forget all that I wrote it was so good. Basically rsou/rels/shining are way more likely to be mafia because of how they voted scott. While the people who voted coolt are more likely to be town. not just because coolt is mafia but because he is never a town powerole the way he gave up. Like marv gave mafia the perfect reason to lynch a powerole (we have to assume mafia knows scott is really a powerole when he claims since hes not on there team)

Marv gave them the perfect excuse to vote scott too. unless the mafia was afk they always snap vote scott here. Also I think its less likely a mafia would be afk at a deadline.

I think the mafia team is probably coolt/rsou + one of shining/rels.

It can still be trefel but I feel hes not trying at all.

I don't think you have read the EoD1 quite closely....


i was there dude... the scott lynch was super bad your biased because you helped lead it. Like mafia had to have voted for him

why was it bad? Damdred conter-claimed him. scott was (not counting the claim) scummy as fuck.
Like why does mafia "have to have voted for him"?

I don't understand what you are saying. Noone was gonna lynch scott after he claimed -> Damdred cc.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:14 GMT
#3080
I gave the "perfect excuse" for mafia to vote for scott. I pointed out Damdred is ccing.
At least get your facts straight, or if you are talking about something else marv did, please feel free to elaborate.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:15 GMT
#3083
But it doesn't change the fact that when scott claims, Damdred claim (assuming they are both town), mafia knows they are both town. So why does mafia "have to" vote for scott?!?!?!?!?
He is getting lynched anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:20 GMT
#3086
On October 02 2015 22:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:06 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there

I don't understand, can you elaborate further?


On October 02 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 07:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

Tonight, I am banning scott31337 permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 1 has ended.



its interesting that the people suspect of being mafia did not vote scott. Mafia knew scott was a power role so they always vote/push him if there competent. I would suspect all 3 mafia to vote scott in this spot. but it was acualy the most town read people in the game that pushed it. / rayn / rstou / rels /shining .

Theres always mafia in there. No way scott gets lynched there without some mafia help and they have all the motivation. Some mafia might just have been afk for example if ls is mafia he was with his mom.

MAFIA KNOWS SCOTT IS A REAL POWER ROLE. they always vote him. Im acualy laying off of trefel because he didnt. 2 mafia probably voted scott and the third is probably cool who is an idiot so he does not count.


FUck i forget all that I wrote it was so good. Basically rsou/rels/shining are way more likely to be mafia because of how they voted scott. While the people who voted coolt are more likely to be town. not just because coolt is mafia but because he is never a town powerole the way he gave up. Like marv gave mafia the perfect reason to lynch a powerole (we have to assume mafia knows scott is really a powerole when he claims since hes not on there team)

Marv gave them the perfect excuse to vote scott too. unless the mafia was afk they always snap vote scott here. Also I think its less likely a mafia would be afk at a deadline.

I think the mafia team is probably coolt/rsou + one of shining/rels.

It can still be trefel but I feel hes not trying at all.

I don't think you have read the EoD1 quite closely....


i was there dude... the scott lynch was super bad your biased because you helped lead it. Like mafia had to have voted for him

why was it bad? Damdred conter-claimed him. scott was (not counting the claim) scummy as fuck.
Like why does mafia "have to have voted for him"?

I don't understand what you are saying. Noone was gonna lynch scott after he claimed -> Damdred cc.



maybe its meta but the only reason dandred should have suspected scott was because he claimed 1 shot tracker which he did in the game before. Dandred thinking there cant be 2 cop type roles is super bullshit because anyone competetant knows open setups are usually random and any 2 town roles are possible thats why its called an open setup.

I am confused, are you saying Damdred is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:22 GMT
#3088
On October 02 2015 22:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But it doesn't change the fact that when scott claims, Damdred claim (assuming they are both town), mafia knows they are both town. So why does mafia "have to" vote for scott?!?!?!?!?
He is getting lynched anyways.


How was he getting lynched anyways? I didnt want to vote for scott. you can kill him later if you still think hes mafia and maybe get some information.

Because when there is a claim and a counter-claim, in most of the occasions people lynch one of the claims (assuming at least one of them is scummy regardless of the claim). The thread sentiment supports this, in this game.

Again, if you are mafia, scott claims and Damdred counter-claims, why do you need to vote for either of them? Townies will do that anyways about 100% of the time regardless of who the other lynch targets are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:22 GMT
#3089
On October 02 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
anyway the point is dandred ccing in an OPEN SETUP does not make scott mafia lol. it was so dumb going back, im submitting it for a wtf moment for sure

ofc it doesn't.
but it negates the fact that "scott is town BECAUSE of his claim".
It really does.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:23 GMT
#3090
and scott was scummy for entirely different reasons (most likely J Roc reasons).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:26 GMT
#3095
On October 02 2015 22:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and scott was scummy for entirely different reasons (most likely J Roc reasons).


agreed i did vote him in the end after a really hard decision. but it had nothing to do with dandreds silly cc

THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING!

you seem to be arguing we should not have lynched scott because he claimed tracker, but at the same time you are arguing his claim does not make him anything and he was scummy so we should have lynched him?!?!!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:26 GMT
#3096
On October 02 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote:
But the point im making is rstou/rels/shining voted scott because of dandreds cc which makes no sense.

I did vote for scott aswell because of Damdred's CC. So did marv.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:28 GMT
#3097
On October 02 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote:
But the point im making is rstou/rels/shining voted scott because of dandreds cc which makes no sense.

oh wait, are you saying they did not vote for him before?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:28 GMT
#3098
liek "only after"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:29 GMT
#3100
yeah, okay that makes more sense. sorry for not understanding you before.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:29 GMT
#3103
On October 02 2015 22:29 Rels wrote:
wow sicklucker what you are saying is bullshit
scott was a main candidate for lynch the whole day. The one reason he wasn't a lynch candidate anymore was his claim
Damdred counter claiming nullified the town credit from scott's claim => he was a main candidate again
I also think it's bullshit you can say "mafia definitely vote for scott", because as soon as scott had enough vote to be lynched, mafia would shut up and let scott's lynch happen, while not taking part of it

did you vote for scott and when?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:29 GMT
#3104
On October 02 2015 22:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
no sicklucker is town. He gets the line ups that I saw earlier.

ofc sl is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:30 GMT
#3105
On October 02 2015 22:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote:
But the point im making is rstou/rels/shining voted scott because of dandreds cc which makes no sense.

I did vote for scott aswell because of Damdred's CC. So did marv.


yes I know and thats scum points for you. but you were pushing him regardless all the cc did was push him over the top for you. He did not seems to be so high on the others radar.

.

yeah i know what you mean rn and it's actually a really good point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:32 GMT
#3110
On October 02 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:29 Rels wrote:
wow sicklucker what you are saying is bullshit
scott was a main candidate for lynch the whole day. The one reason he wasn't a lynch candidate anymore was his claim
Damdred counter claiming nullified the town credit from scott's claim => he was a main candidate again
I also think it's bullshit you can say "mafia definitely vote for scott", because as soon as scott had enough vote to be lynched, mafia would shut up and let scott's lynch happen, while not taking part of it

did you vote for scott and when?

I voted for scott after Damdred' counter claim. JRoc was a lynch candidate since the lie about you busing though

What made you think scott is scum enough to vote for over your original lynch target (before claims -> after claims)?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:36 GMT
#3115
sicklucker do you remember from where any of those people swapped to scott?
i know rsoulting did GB -> scott
shining???
rels???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:39 GMT
#3117
then it actually makes you both look really really bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:40 GMT
#3118
unless you ofc want to explain, right now Rels, your explanation doesn't make much sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:45 GMT
#3127
On October 02 2015 22:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
We still have to shoot coolTL or we're shooting ourselves in the foot lol. Like he is either bad town or Mafia which places in a policy lynch either way.

I don't usually agree with policy lynches but in this case you are 100% right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:45 GMT
#3128
On October 02 2015 22:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:43 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is saying that marv said coolt was town. that kinda makes some sense but idk

it doesn't "kinda makes sense"
he factually said that (he actually said 95% town)

why did you agree with him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:46 GMT
#3129
On October 02 2015 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
We still have to shoot coolTL or we're shooting ourselves in the foot lol. Like he is either bad town or Mafia which places in a policy lynch either way.

I don't usually agree with policy lynches but in this case you are 100% right.

And for the record i don't think this is a policy lynch, i genuinely think the guy is scummy as fuck, but i get your point, and if you think so, i totally agree with you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:47 GMT
#3131
On October 02 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
We still have to shoot coolTL or we're shooting ourselves in the foot lol. Like he is either bad town or Mafia which places in a policy lynch either way.

no you shouldn't lynch him if you think he's a bad town

yes we should.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:49 GMT
#3135
On October 02 2015 22:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:44 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:43 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is saying that marv said coolt was town. that kinda makes some sense but idk

it doesn't "kinda makes sense"
he factually said that (he actually said 95% town)

why did you agree with him?

'cause usually mafia don't bus D1

what was the votecount at the time you thought this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:50 GMT
#3138
On October 02 2015 22:48 sicklucker wrote:
I had to take a nice shower to cool off. I said i would not get super involved and spammy like i used to.

don't worry you are doing a good job.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:52 GMT
#3140
Okay i am gonna check that out later.
Now i need to hear from shining.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:54 GMT
#3142
On October 02 2015 22:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 22:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
We still have to shoot coolTL or we're shooting ourselves in the foot lol. Like he is either bad town or Mafia which places in a policy lynch either way.

no you shouldn't lynch him if you think he's a bad town

hello? scum will 99.99% keep him around unless they're doing the 0.001% crazy play. like they will keep him around to make us doubt ourselves and screw us over later down the line.

I agree with that
I was saying that if you KNOW he is a bad town, you shouldn't lynch him

what the fuck is this argument.
he clearly does not know if cool is mafia or bad town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:55 GMT
#3143
It's like saying:
Person X: "i think A is mafia"
Person Y: "but if you think B is MORE mafia you should lynch him instead"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#3146
On October 02 2015 22:57 Rels wrote:
I just don't like this auto lynch situation we have
marv is still correct D1, mafia probably wouldn't bus this early

confirmed wrong by default unless you think i am mafia or rsoultin is mafia (and rsoultin would not even be bussing here).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#3149
Who would you call "bussing" if they hypothetically were mafia with coolTLname in this game (D1)?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#3150
Like who would in your opinion be bussing, regardless of if you think they are or aren't.
I mean like... fuck... People who voted for coolTLname or what? someone else too?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 14:04 GMT
#3152
I want a clarification because you said "everyone was okay with lynching coolTLname on D1, therefore, if he is mafia, there has to be a bus".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 14:10 GMT
#3155
On October 02 2015 23:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want a clarification because you said "everyone was okay with lynching coolTLname on D1, therefore, if he is mafia, there has to be a bus".

it means what it means ? I think everybody except rsoultin was OK lynching coolTLname. That's why marv made this comment on coolTLname being the "default lynch"

It in fact makes marv's comment invalid and gives an opportunity to mafia, if coolTLname is mafia, to defend him -> go onto another lynch, like scott.
On October 02 2015 23:08 Rels wrote:
rayn why did you switch to scott after Damdred's claim ? Why did this CC invalidated scott's claim about being 1 shot tracker ?

I find this out to be a stupid question because i have already explained it.
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October 02 2015 14:12 GMT
#3156
Like i would like nothing more that call my scumbuddy (who will not get lynched by thread sentiment) mafia.
Because it buys me town credit and well, we are still not lynching mafia (until later on, which everyone who is scum in this game knows -- that coolname is gonna get lynched at some point assumining he is scum).
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October 02 2015 14:15 GMT
#3159
On October 02 2015 23:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i would like nothing more that call my scumbuddy (who will not get lynched by thread sentiment) mafia.
Because it buys me town credit and well, we are still not lynching mafia (until later on, which everyone who is scum in this game knows -- that coolname is gonna get lynched at some point assumining he is scum).

Of course
but marv comment was BEFORE Damdred's cc

well did you switch your vote before damdred's cc?
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October 02 2015 14:22 GMT
#3163
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.
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October 02 2015 14:23 GMT
#3164
On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells

it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia.
i don't know why you want to claim otherwise.
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October 02 2015 14:26 GMT
#3166
On October 02 2015 23:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells

it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia.
i don't know why you want to claim otherwise.

because he said something like "GB you are known for not reading the thread" yesterday

who the fuck cares. he has played a game before.
do you think he smurfed back then in a newbie game then now came back and smurfed again?
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October 02 2015 14:29 GMT
#3169
On October 02 2015 23:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:24 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells

it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia.
i don't know why you want to claim otherwise.

because he said something like "GB you are known for not reading the thread" yesterday

who the fuck cares. he has played a game before.
do you think he smurfed back then in a newbie game then now came back and smurfed again?

no no no
I think he's a lurker reader

the why are you arguing he is a smurf?
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October 02 2015 14:30 GMT
#3170
Like you literally fucking say "since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells"
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October 02 2015 14:32 GMT
#3173
what the fuck is a lurker reader?
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October 02 2015 14:34 GMT
#3175
On October 02 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what the fuck is a lurker reader?

someone reading games but not posting or playing

mmm and you think this is possible given how he approached the game early on?
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October 02 2015 14:38 GMT
#3178
fair enough
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October 02 2015 14:42 GMT
#3181
I don't remember, in a day or so i guess.
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October 02 2015 14:43 GMT
#3182
she's been doing that all game long so i really don't even care anymore.
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October 02 2015 14:54 GMT
#3189
On October 02 2015 23:46 rsoultin wrote:
And trfel is currently my top suspect

I am really really waiting for this case because i do not see a world where there is, for ANYONE, any better reasons to think anyone is mafia than coolname.
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October 02 2015 14:57 GMT
#3190
I am quoting this because i am claiming about 80% of the things coolTLname has said in the first 72 hours of the game are lies. rsoultin, i hope you have a better case on Trfel than "80% of his posts are lies".
On October 02 2015 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this;

You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this.

So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him?

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October 02 2015 19:13 GMT
#3221
In that game i actually switched my read on geript for a reason. I just never had time to explain it and i didn't even care about the game at all. I am not that bad as mafia Rels, i don't "contradict myself" like that without any reason.

But that's not relevant.
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October 02 2015 19:20 GMT
#3223
Not really, marv can easily catch me on D1 because i make "less sense" then i am supposed to.
I don't know how he does it but he does. If i knew, he obviously could not be able to do it.
And when i am scum i literally just don't care. At all.
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October 02 2015 19:26 GMT
#3225
On October 03 2015 04:16 Rels wrote:
(that doesn't interest anyone else but I would really like to know the "reason" for your switch)

And that doesn't really matter anything because i was obviously "right" since geript was not mafia.
You will not learn anything about it and i can't make myself find it because i don't remember anything about that game, except for when i read the game before i replaced in my scumreads were genuinely you and geript. So even that part was not a lie..
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October 02 2015 22:32 GMT
#3253
On October 03 2015 07:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote:
Idk why it would be like talking to a brick wall when everyone town read you the first 36 hours and then you didn't do anything until you got called out, then repeat that's a bit meh Ls...

It was mainly rayn's attitude towards me it was exactly the same he treated me in my last game and I couldn't be assed to play there after Day 2 even though I caught you Day 1 of that game. Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled.

bullshit.
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October 02 2015 22:34 GMT
#3256
Seriously what teh fuck is wrong with people?

"LightningStrike could you read the thread before you post because... you know that's how this game is played?"

"Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled."

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT"!
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October 02 2015 22:36 GMT
#3259
If you are seriously going to put your not playing at all on me and you are town in this game i promise you you never have to play another game with me. I call fucking bullshit. I am not gonna get blamed when YOU YOURSELF refuse to play the game.
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October 02 2015 22:37 GMT
#3260
#thatisapromise
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October 02 2015 22:38 GMT
#3262
On October 03 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously what teh fuck is wrong with people?

"LightningStrike could you read the thread before you post because... you know that's how this game is played?"

"Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled."

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT"!

YOU TREATED ME THE SAME FUCKING WAY YOU DID WHEN I DIDN'T READ THE FUCKING OP RIGHT IN OUR LAST GAME AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BE SCUM FOR THE SAME FUCKING THING I DID AS TOWN? JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE BAD

THEN LEARN TO READ THE FUCKING OP OF THE GAME YOU ARE PLAYING!
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October 02 2015 22:38 GMT
#3265
What the fuck?
What the fucking fuck.
Why am i even trying?
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October 02 2015 22:44 GMT
#3268
Well then he purchased a place to my "never play with" list.
true story. i can take shit from people when it is at least semi-arguably legit.
This, no. Fucking no.
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October 02 2015 22:48 GMT
#3270
Like:
- LS hasn't read the thread
- rayn asks him to read the thread before posting because it is actually required to read the thread so you can post legitmate thoughts
- LS continues to not read the thread
- rayn calls him mafia
- LS says "it's rayn's attitude towards me which made me not play the game"

Mmmm... right.
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October 02 2015 23:29 GMT
#3281
sicklucker is definitely town Damdred.
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October 02 2015 23:30 GMT
#3283
And i am really really really sure GlowingBear is not scum.
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October 02 2015 23:31 GMT
#3284
On October 03 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote:
anywho, i'll be in-thread if anyone's in the mood to not auto-pilot this shit, but i'll be busy so don't expect more than sporadic responses till i'm done

well who would expect anything else from you anyways.
this has been your mantra for the past three days.
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October 02 2015 23:35 GMT
#3287
On October 03 2015 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Why are you so sure gb isn't scum

Because he isn't annoying, mostly. Also he has some good points.
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October 02 2015 23:37 GMT
#3291
On October 03 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Why are you so sure gb isn't scum

Because he isn't annoying, mostly. Also he has some good points.


Ummm that's not right though gb himself would tell you that he is hyper adhd and jumps around like he's on crack as town.

And good points can come from either side.

That's actually not correct.
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October 02 2015 23:42 GMT
#3295
Well i am waiting for the case on GlowingBear then.
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October 02 2015 23:44 GMT
#3297
I don't make towncases unless i know my townreads are under heavy suspicion.
People who think he is scum have the responsibility to prove he is mafia.
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October 02 2015 23:49 GMT
#3299
On October 03 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
No that's not how this work you can say I'm,not correct without proviking information why. Unless your scum of course

No Damdred, that's literally how it works. Make a case and then we can discuss it.
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October 02 2015 23:53 GMT
#3301
Like you say "GB is scum".
I say "no he is not".

It is literally your responsibility to prove he is mafia, because if you don't do that, then he is probably not mafia.
It's my responsibility to prove three other people are mafia. My responsibility is NOT to prove GlowingBear is not mafia, at least until you have a case on the table.

I am not wasting time on things i don't find important. I think we are lynching scum atm, and that's what is important to me. Noone has presented any other case. I don't care to do that now, before the lynch, because apparently some other people can't give a shit to play the game at all, so i don't jsut care right now. I have better things to do.

If someone cares, enough, to make a case on someone else than coolTLname, feel free to do it. Then i can discuss it and care more.
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October 02 2015 23:54 GMT
#3303
On October 03 2015 08:51 Damdred wrote:
No rayn you are being willfully obtuse when a town read is asking you why they are wrong what is your,motivation keeping relevant information from me.

I can present the information on N2 aswell as here and right now i just don't care.
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October 03 2015 00:06 GMT
#3305
Like i am sorry Damdred, it's not my intention to ignore you or anything like that.
I am just genuinely disinterested in the game right now because of certain people's unwillingness to play, and on top of that those same people throw shit at me. I would like if some other people made cases and put effort to the game aswell otherwise than yelling "tone tone". And i am not talking about all of the people in this game.
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October 03 2015 00:23 GMT
#3309
On October 03 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
okay, rayn, talk about reads time try to keep the bm down please

your main issue with cool is he said he had 7 votes on him before scott claimed...is there anything else?

i've read his filter, and apart from him claiming to have completely read the thread but still getting that detail wrong, i'm not really seeing whatever it is y'all are seeing in his play that has you guys thinking he's lock scum

point me to what i'm missing without demanding that i read your filter? you're on the list but i'm multi-tasking and i'd appreciate your cooperation

My case is very simple:
On October 02 2015 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this;

You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this.

So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him?

For someone who praises that people who:
1) lie
2) do not read the thread
are mafia, the accusation i provide here is pretty damning. I am not going to quote basically every single post in filter from the first 72 hours of the game. If you want to ask about some of them / all of them, do that.

Right now i have had zero questions about this (this is including coolTLname himself....).
I hope people do not ask stupid questions if they do, and if they do, i assume - as always - that they have read the thread.
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October 03 2015 00:35 GMT
#3312
Every single post where he writes anything about me, as i said.
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October 03 2015 00:37 GMT
#3313
1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding

Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread.

2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw

pretty clear shit.

3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him

oh but he did.
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October 03 2015 00:44 GMT
#3316
On October 03 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding

Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread.

2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw

pretty clear shit.

3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him

oh but he did.


i just read his filter rayn @.@ from top to bottom

quote it or let it go

He says he wanted to get lynced. That's what he said. Later on he says he didn't want to get lynched over scott (who was the opposing wagon) because he suspected scott. But he never suspected scott. In fact he suspected ME the most, and i was pushing scott's lynch ALL D1. So i find it really hard to believe what he is saying.
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October 03 2015 00:45 GMT
#3317
On October 03 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:
please don't call me an idiot. when you're not explicit with what you're saying, rayn, it can be misunderstood and it looks like that's what happened. why would he zero in on that as scum knowing what you meant, either? scum's not going to say the sky is red and expect people to believe them lol ><

Ge read the conversation where the post is taken from.
If you have read the conversation, you have no doubts what i am talking about.

The post is just taken out of context for no reason.
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October 03 2015 00:52 GMT
#3319
On October 03 2015 09:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:
please don't call me an idiot. when you're not explicit with what you're saying, rayn, it can be misunderstood and it looks like that's what happened. why would he zero in on that as scum knowing what you meant, either? scum's not going to say the sky is red and expect people to believe them lol ><

Ge read the conversation where the post is taken from.
If you have read the conversation, you have no doubts what i am talking about.

The post is just taken out of context for no reason.


no i do understand what you were talking about? but i don't see why scum does that, is the point, rayn. even if he is scum, he still probably misunderstood

Well he himself claims "mafia are people who don't read the thread".
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October 03 2015 00:53 GMT
#3320
Like i can understand a mistake or two.
But when EVERY SINGLE THING HE SAYS is a "mistake", that's too much.
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October 03 2015 00:54 GMT
#3321
His D1 and N1 is literally devoted to "rayn is mafia because he is lying and not reading the thread". Literally.
Am i supposed to believe he is town when - again - every single thing he says about me during those 72 hours is either lie or him not reading the thread properly?

Like this isn't so hard Tina, why are you making this so hard?
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October 03 2015 01:00 GMT
#3325
On October 03 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His D1 and N1 is literally devoted to "rayn is mafia because he is lying and not reading the thread". Literally.
Am i supposed to believe he is town when - again - every single thing he says about me during those 72 hours is either lie or him not reading the thread properly?

Like this isn't so hard Tina, why are you making this so hard?


mostly because this isn't really the case...he was talking about other things both d1 and n1, rayn. you have to realize that you're emotionally invested in this read and you focus on tiny things, while i am not and i tend to focus on the big picture. both have their place

I don't care if he was talking about other things, that's not what i am arguing about.
I am arguing about his top scumread -- me.
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October 03 2015 01:10 GMT
#3328
I would like to hear your case on Trfel Tine, when you have time.
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October 03 2015 01:11 GMT
#3329
Tina*
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October 03 2015 01:18 GMT
#3331
Mmmm i have another game that starts about now so i'll probably leave this thread.
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October 03 2015 02:38 GMT
#3345
On October 03 2015 10:52 coolTLname wrote:
Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims.

Has asked to prove even a a single one. Doesn't.
Meanwhile...
On October 03 2015 09:09 coolTLname wrote:
## vote glowing bear



good night frands
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October 03 2015 09:01 GMT
#3402
On October 03 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
scummy
rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist)

I would like you to explain how you come to this conclusion when your top townread thinks pretty much the exact same thing?
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October 03 2015 09:05 GMT
#3404
Can you link the games you checked?
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October 03 2015 09:16 GMT
#3406
idk, his scumgame seems super different from this game.
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October 03 2015 09:23 GMT
#3410
And The Shining seems to show a distinct lack of knowledge for LightningStrike's play, and since they've played several games together I'm pretty sure, I don't think that The Shining's early scumread on LightningStrike is very believable.

Can you explain this further?
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October 03 2015 09:32 GMT
#3414
No Trfel it might be valid, what did you see?
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October 03 2015 09:33 GMT
#3415
On October 03 2015 18:31 Trfel wrote:
The Shining seems to assume that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet would read GlowingBear the same way, that doesn't seem reasonable. Even from reading a little bit of this game, it should become clear that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet have different styles, which would lead to different methods of how to read people.

where does he say that?
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October 03 2015 09:40 GMT
#3419
idk. If you have one of us town (me) and one of us scum (LS), in my opinion it is natural to ask from their townread about it, you know like "why do you think this guy thinks otherwise".
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October 03 2015 09:41 GMT
#3420
rsoultin get another "glowingber point" for her Rels read.
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October 03 2015 09:43 GMT
#3423
glowingbear point = "i wasn't interested in that when it happened but now, 2 days later, i suddenly am"
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October 03 2015 09:50 GMT
#3427
Trfel who else do you think is mafia?
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 09:53 GMT
#3429
On October 03 2015 18:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 18:47 Trfel wrote:
Seems to be reaching for reasons to scumread coolTLname, doesn't seem to join the wagon naturally

how is this scum indicative ?

If it is true ofc it is, regardless of coolTLname's affiliation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:00 GMT
#3432
On October 01 2015 04:52 The Shining wrote:
I guess you're right but I'll still read when i can. I need to look at marvs and rayns filter for Rso becuz i had her as town originally. I appreciate the recap but idk what the actual case was so yeah.

tbh i super heavily dislike this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:01 GMT
#3433
Like there is a push on rsoultin from me/marv.
Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:08 GMT
#3436
The way he dismisses the cases on rsoultin is also yuck...
Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:20 GMT
#3439
On October 03 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
solve the game with alcohol

sounds like a plan!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:39 GMT
#3441
On October 03 2015 19:35 rsoultin wrote:
-yawns-

morning lol ><

@rayn...rels did this thing he did, where he talks about cool for half-decent reasons d1 but mostly focuses on truffle's reads, then kinda afks his vote on cool. and you're wrong that he and damdred have the same read. yes, some aspects are similar, but the gb comment in particular about reading the thread simply doesn't exist. additionally, of all the things to read cool scum for it's the most ridiculous?

i've got plenty of reasons to townread damdy independent of his "cool isn't new" assertion. it's not like i said damdy is town for pushing that and rels isn't

No you didn't say that but if a "sure townie" (Damdred) can make that sort of read why is that a scumtell for Rels?
Like you just said "a townie can do this" and then you accuse someone of being mafia because they did it.

And it's pretty similar, given the times those posts are made and at what state the game was back then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:50 GMT
#3443
On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote:
but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all

This doesn't bother you with Shining at all?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 10:50 GMT
#3444
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:01 GMT
#3449
On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...


no he really kind of wasn't

he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that

like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol

Let's assume this is true for a moment.
Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good".

Because i can't think of a reason, except for one...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:02 GMT
#3450
i mean new = not as experienced as me/marv.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:02 GMT
#3451
which would be everyone else in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:08 GMT
#3454
On October 03 2015 20:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...


no he really kind of wasn't

he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that

like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol

Let's assume this is true for a moment.
Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good".

Because i can't think of a reason, except for one...


lol you were too busy tunneling me d1 to notice that i completely thought people jumping on my wagon could be scum. i even pushed rels for it then, after which he backed off, defaulted to cool and pissed off so eh

and i was pushing you for it because you kept saying you wanted to push me cause marv was "sure" when he'd said maybe i could be town and stopped pushing prior to

obviously i thought scum was taking advantage, or very likely to? and i didn't like rels just dropping his scumread on truffle to sheep marv while saying truffle and i couldn't be scum together it was meh to me. don't you remember this at all? xP

I am not talking about what you were thinking on D1.
I am talking about the present.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:12 GMT
#3456
I am confused. Are you saying Rels was interested in lynching you or not?
Because rn you are saying both.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:19 GMT
#3462
On October 03 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am confused. Are you saying Rels was interested in lynching you or not?
Because rn you are saying both.


@.@

you were saying present tense. present tense he hasn't shown a large interest in lynching me

right after marv's case he dropped his read on trfel and sheeped you guys even though he'd been hard pushing trfel. trfel hadn't addressed his points at the time, and he believed that trfel and i couldn't be scum when he did it

Again i am starting to see red.

You literally jsut said Rels was not interested in lynching you (while hopping on the wagon with me and marv). Because you said he then was willing to give you more room to explain -> not really interested in lynching you, as per your words.

You don't think i am mafia, marv is flipped town.

Again; If you do not think mafia hopped on your wagon (because regardless of if Rels is mafia or not he didn't really hop on your wagon and push your lynch as YOU SAID), why is that?

Why can't you understand simple questions?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:28 GMT
#3470
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:30 GMT
#3473
On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote:

but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:30 GMT
#3475
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:32 GMT
#3478
I don't care what he admits.
I care about:
Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


Why do you have to dance around the question instead of jsut fucking answering it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:37 GMT
#3481
On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch

but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room.
why does he do that as mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:45 GMT
#3484
On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch

but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room.
why does he do that as mafia?


he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me

you're still saying the sky is green

and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you?

I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this:

So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room.

So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more.

Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:03 GMT
#3487
On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"

I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:07 GMT
#3490
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:10 GMT
#3491
On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:
it's not just "i think trfel is town"

it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"

yes this would make sense if you had never scumread Trfel but that's not the case here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:14 GMT
#3493
On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.


-squints at-

so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that

i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^

Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies...

You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago.
Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town).

So, another scumpoint to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:19 GMT
#3495
On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that

yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#3501
So from what i have gathered from N1 and D2 (partly from D1 aswell) from you rsoultin is this:

- You didn't give any fucks about coolTLname when you imo should have. I am speaking of N1 here, you even went on defending him with factually incorrect argument. (see what i did there?) It's scummy.

- The way you "look into people further" is scummy. You are under pressure, marv says GB might be mafia -> suddenly there is a case (and a vote) on GB from you while you didn't care about the things you found him scummy for earlier, at all. sl brings up the voting behavior and I start discussing it with him on D2. Rels and Shining are under questioning for that -> suddenly you come up with "now i am looking into Rels/Shining" and you come to a conclusion that Rels looks really bad and shining is town, you don't even touch this voting behavior thing at all... Hmm no, actually that is not scummy, that is super scummy.

- You do voting analysis; you miss the most easily notable thing to you. That is scummy.

That was your N1 -> D2.

I think you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:30 GMT
#3502
On October 03 2015 21:25 rsoultin wrote:
like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway

The reverse isn't true in any way, because you (mafia) and coolTLname (mafia) suddenly ended up on GlowingBear (town).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:33 GMT
#3504
On October 03 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
okay here's my problem

like, i'm down to moosy and trfel

and moosy/gb/rels are almost never ever going to be scum with cool...sicklucker seems rather unlikely as well given even though he didn't push as much on cool as the other three, the only one left is truffle and he did push hard on him

basically, to believe in a cool = mafia world, you have to believe that he's being bussed since d1 @.@ or that his two scummates for whatever reason decided to attack each other in the middle of the day phase

it's just not very likely, is it?

idk, care to explain what for example this post is if not voting analysis?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:39 GMT
#3507
nope. it doesn't work that way when the other wagon is pushed by GlowingBear and you are pushed by marv/rayn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:43 GMT
#3510
I am not going to argue with you on this because it doesn't help at all.
You are scum and i don't argue with scum.

You can read my case on N2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:47 GMT
#3513
Because anyone who is scum (when rsoultin is scum here) who voted for Trfel looks like absolute garbade if rsoultin flips. Which is quite likely in case marv/rayn are pushing her.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:48 GMT
#3515
So instead they most likely ignored the push (shining), or are bad (coolTLname).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:51 GMT
#3517
On October 03 2015 21:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because anyone who is scum (when rsoultin is scum here) who voted for Trfel looks like absolute garbade if rsoultin flips. Which is quite likely in case marv/rayn are pushing her.


mm maybe, but that still doesn't explain why i didn't vote for trfel, does it?

huh.. because you hard townread him, so you literally can't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:55 GMT
#3520
no no, you don't even believe that yourself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 15:36 GMT
#3543
On October 04 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:
No. In this question, the scummy parts is that he is misrepresenting why I'm scumreading him + the fact that he ignored my questions several times is the scummy part
I also think he's scum because
- his push on GB was done on super bad reasonning
- he claimed to have been the one first voting and first pushing cool while it was me and GB; GB that he was pushing at the time
- he associated with shining and based his push d1 on cool on a shining post; while answering questions, he kept bringing up that shining and him were the push creator on coolTLname

isn't this all explained with the last thing?
or like associated with it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:22 GMT
#3645
On October 04 2015 00:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm back from my SAT 2 tests. Jesus christ the math was a stick in the butt. I think I did well on my Literature test though. If anyone cares, my ankle is getting better and I can walk although running and tilting the ankle hurts. Will read and catch up.

I can help you with math.
7 = 3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:22 GMT
#3646
i am sorry i just had to do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:28 GMT
#3653
On October 04 2015 04:23 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:18 rsoultin wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:16 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".


Come on. Are you serious? I had 7 votes, scott was actually lynched and rsoultin was being pushed for HOURS , primary lynch target over Trfel. LOOK AT THIS .


cool

rayn was saying we were never the main lynch targets at the same time, because ls was saying we were the ones to decide between

what he said is true

drop this

then he could have easily just said this instead of just flaming me for 4 hours, town would explain, mafia would derail

I am sorry i don't explain stuff to people who cannot read the thread and who at the same time claim people who don't read the thread are mafia.

See?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:29 GMT
#3654
On October 04 2015 04:27 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

who was blatantly lying then rayn?

you were
or either
you were not reading the thread

as i clearly said
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:32 GMT
#3660
On October 04 2015 04:31 rsoultin wrote:
ls is town though so this doesn't matter -_-

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:33 GMT
#3664
I don't care about LS because he is town for dick move analysis and if he is mafia the game is kinda invalid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:36 GMT
#3670
On October 04 2015 04:33 coolTLname wrote:
Rayn what will u think of rsoultin when i flip town? Also if i flip town, mafia could possibly make a case against you

Your flip will change nothing about how i view rsoultin.
Yes they could, i'll let them try.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:38 GMT
#3674
On October 04 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't care about LS because he is town for dick move analysis and if he is mafia the game is kinda invalid.

idk what dick move analysis is. plz explain further tbh.

Basically i don't think LS would ever yell me like that as mafia.
If he did he is a dick, but i don't think he can be that much of a dick so i have to trust he is town.

that's dick move analysis.
noone is above it, except for Blazinghand.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 03 2015 19:38 GMT
#3675
On October 04 2015 04:37 Trfel wrote:
I'm not getting the impression that people have actually read The Shining's filter.

I think he is scum.
i also think cool is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:42 GMT
#3679
On October 04 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:33 coolTLname wrote:
Rayn what will u think of rsoultin when i flip town? Also if i flip town, mafia could possibly make a case against you

Your flip will change nothing about how i view rsoultin.
Yes they could, i'll let them try.


#rayn!tunnel2015

It would be funny if the dumb hashtag club were mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:52 GMT
#3692
On October 04 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:33 coolTLname wrote:
Rayn what will u think of rsoultin when i flip town? Also if i flip town, mafia could possibly make a case against you

Your flip will change nothing about how i view rsoultin.
Yes they could, i'll let them try.


#rayn!tunnel2015

It would be funny if the dumb hashtag club were mafia.


i think you should put this in my sig when i flip town lol and this time you can't blame me for being bad, either ^^

mmm so your reads are really good then?
i don't even know why you call people mafia except for Rels and cool (which i explained to you in the first place).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 03 2015 19:58 GMT
#3703
On October 04 2015 04:57 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:51 coolTLname wrote:
aside from not knowing game irreverent information, (lets be real the whole time of scott claim and number of votes on me ? )

i've clearly shown a deep understanding as far as what's been being said in this game. Honestly i think i have the thread more memorized than anyone playing this game.

The TMI analysis on me, I dont agree with because im new for one so i dont even know what that meant

and i had decent evidence on rsoultin like her not voting for trfel , past game history as mafia etc. I mean to convince other people you have to be convinced yourself, right? Even if i was not 100% convinced rsoultin was town, i still think this is a bad mislynch so im gonna be like YEAH STOP VOTING RSOULTIN 100% TOWN U FUCKING IDIOTS

Its for political reasons not TMI reasons

If you have the thread memorized so well, why don't you go back and pull up evidence? You should know where they are. Instead of always going "I think" "maybe" "possibly" and changing your reads all the time.

I have been, for you i dont need to, bc ppl can just read your filter without context because you just analysis ed a bunch of people without pushing them, changing reads instead. Like ur the opposite of rayn which is also bad. Rayn is a necessary evil but unfortunately hes wrong this time.

no you really haven't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#3713
On October 04 2015 05:02 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Still haven't explained why I'm scum on any reasonable world.

Onto shining, if you've played with shining before it doesn't really matter how much work he does because he's always going to be hit and miss on the activity front its just the way it is.

And I don't think its compelling at all, and he did a decent amount d1 in a small time span he wasn't super active for the first like 30 hours of the game or something. So its all pretty much in line.

Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2

His counterclaim is shady only if you are mafia. 100%.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 20:11 GMT
#3730
On October 04 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:02 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
Still haven't explained why I'm scum on any reasonable world.

Onto shining, if you've played with shining before it doesn't really matter how much work he does because he's always going to be hit and miss on the activity front its just the way it is.

And I don't think its compelling at all, and he did a decent amount d1 in a small time span he wasn't super active for the first like 30 hours of the game or something. So its all pretty much in line.

Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2

His counterclaim is shady only if you are mafia. 100%.

except he didnt get powershot, possibly of 2 trackers , GB claiming roleblocker then backing off (idk what this means actually )

Yes and u seem to think im mafia 100% so why arent u pushing damdred like a motherfucking train?


Because in my world Damdred is not mafia anyways.

But in your world, like you probably assume you are town right?
scott was town.
Why does Damdred claim when you two are the only possible lynches? Town is gonna get lynched anyways.

For you there should be 0% reason to think Damdred is mafia jsut because you are supposed to know your own alignment. Not to even mention this is straight up "role interaction" where you are supposed to be "good at" because sc2mafia is nothing but THIS.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 20:21 GMT
#3745
On October 04 2015 05:18 Damdred wrote:
Don't talk about the power shot until tommorow at earliest we don't need to teach mafia what to do. If I have to explain then I have to but its not good.

You don't have to explain anything, you are town.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 20:49 GMT
#3771
On October 04 2015 05:47 The Shining wrote:
Probably the shittiest 20 or so pages I've had to read in this game. If you think I'm scum, just lynch me so you can keep cool around as the biggest question mark that avoided two lynches and lose the game tomorrow.

While you're at it, you can explain how scum Shining has been trying to bus scum cool since D1, since you have him as scum, rayn and Rels. Makes a lot of fucking sense. You too, Moosy. I should be looked into if cool is scum? When I've been trying to bury him for softing me as scum D2 and then never doing anything about it?

And Damdred is right, I begin to start looking at Trfels filter and starting to hash things out with RSo regarding her suspicion of him and he comes back with this huge case based on meta and what he thinks I should be doing with my time. I don't even want to waste my time with a little over an hour before EoD so I'll only cover some of the bigger points. Then you can ask me w.e you want.

wtf? noone is lynching you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:29 GMT
#3807
On October 04 2015 05:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 05:37 sicklucker wrote:
Now we justt gotta find the last one. in a coolt/trefel world a fake claiming dandred makes some sense which is why im curious of dandreds reaction here. but there is many other options

reeeeels


ya acualy its pretty much just rels because everyone else voted coolt ? who did you vote day 1 again

So I was the first to push and vote my teammate, and would have stayed here until the end when I had no way to know damdred would counter claim ? That's stupid


me and rayn were the first to push him. I love how you keep throwing that you were the first to vote him tho

Don't remember that, added to the to check pile

afaik i did never push coolTLname on D1.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:32 GMT
#3812
On October 04 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Can we switch to GB? He says we are hitting a townie votes for that person and fucks off

that doesn't make him mafia.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:34 GMT
#3815
how do you even know what tmi means?
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:34 GMT
#3819
On October 04 2015 06:34 Damdred wrote:
Why doesn't it make him mafia? He clearly thinks tlcool is town, said we are hitting a townie but votes him anyway instead of pushing anyone else? There's no point to that as town

he can never get anyone else lynched.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:35 GMT
#3821
On October 04 2015 06:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Can we switch to GB? He says we are hitting a townie votes for that person and fucks off


I'm actually not opposed to this. The only reason I towned him was his tunneling you early and even then I was iffy on it. GB also decided I'm scum, too, without any reasoning behind it. He didn't even say he was sleeping Trfel. And after d1 EoD, he said cool was auto lynch today. Then backs off of it. Then goes back to it. Then votes me. Then votes cool, calling him town, and fucks off. That looks bad as fuck.

ofc you are not because you are mafia.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:36 GMT
#3828
On October 04 2015 06:36 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how do you even know what tmi means?

well i learned after having it be used on me like a million times

like where?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:38 GMT
#3831
On October 04 2015 06:37 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:36 coolTLname wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how do you even know what tmi means?

well i learned after having it be used on me like a million times

like where?

the rsoultin case where everyone is like U THINK SHES TOWN CUZ UR MAFIA WITH TMI U EVEN CHECKED HER GAMES BEFORE blah blah blah

can you quote your post from your filter where you ask what tmi is?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:39 GMT
#3833
On October 04 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:
Ok rayns just derailing this now.

Folloe.me to GB, he literally said tee are hitting a townie but votes him anyway. There's no reason for GB to say this and still vote him he could of voted anywhere.

Lets go

what the fuck are you doing?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:42 GMT
#3846
On October 04 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:34 The Shining wrote:
On October 04 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Can we switch to GB? He says we are hitting a townie votes for that person and fucks off


I'm actually not opposed to this. The only reason I towned him was his tunneling you early and even then I was iffy on it. GB also decided I'm scum, too, without any reasoning behind it. He didn't even say he was sleeping Trfel. And after d1 EoD, he said cool was auto lynch today. Then backs off of it. Then goes back to it. Then votes me. Then votes cool, calling him town, and fucks off. That looks bad as fuck.

ofc you are not because you are mafia.


Yup you're so right rayn. Your tunnel on RSo was bad and now you're starting on me. While voting my #1 scum that you'd have to believe I'm bussing if you think I'm mafia, since d1. Riiiggghhttt.

oh it's funny you tell that to me NOW.
How was it bad?
I am waiting for your answer on N2.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:52 GMT
#3885
On October 04 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I WILL FUCKING KICK DEAD PUPPIES

+1
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:53 GMT
#3891
hahaha^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 21:56 GMT
#3909
On October 04 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i am back but what d o we do?

we are murdering rsoultin, switrch your vote quick!
she claiemd mafia.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:00 GMT
#3938
^^
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:01 GMT
#3940
mmm
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:07 GMT
#3954
I am officially quituing this game right now.
I will meet the activity requirements.

I am done playing with dumbasses. I have better things to do.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:07 GMT
#3958
bye
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:11 GMT
#3969
On October 04 2015 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 07:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am officially quituing this game right now.
I will meet the activity requirements.

I am done playing with dumbasses. I have better things to do.


I thought you were okay to lynch cool TL

^

fuck you
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:11 GMT
#3970
i don't even care about what i say anymore.-
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:11 GMT
#3971
try me
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Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 22:39 GMT
#4021
Why did you lynch cooltlname i cant understand it was a mistake i think someone is mafia i dont know why or who i jsut think let me read the thread real quick brb 52 hours btw its hmm... trfels fault i am not playing btw remember this.

fuck you i won't do what you tell me.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 04 2015 20:48 GMT
#4121
wow i am also blue
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Finland43268 Posts
October 04 2015 21:51 GMT
#4147
I will rng vote tomorrow.
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October 04 2015 21:59 GMT
#4149
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. In id nulla non orci bibendum ultrices. Integer egestas magna vitae nibh aliquam pretium. Ut id pellentesque libero, a egestas est. Pellentesque gravida orci sit amet arcu volutpat, vel luctus arcu sollicitudin. Duis malesuada suscipit tellus vel ornare. Sed sit amet nulla neque. Praesent sollicitudin, mi id dignissim elementum, felis sapien commodo dolor, et tristique sem leo ut sem. Mauris enim urna, hendrerit sit amet dui dignissim, rsoultin consectetur nisi. Aliquam tristique lorem nec dui ornare mollis. Quisque ut ultricies lacus. In sed aliquet lectus. In aliquam elit in leo aliquam, et facilisis dui feugiat. Sed commodo ac arcu eu sagittis.

Donec in eros metus. Nulla posuere dictum sodales. Etiam nec velit sit amet erat mollis dignissim a et tellus. Nulla suscipit, neque eu euismod consequat, ex metus faucibus nunc, quis posuere nunc ante vel ex. Maecenas tristique ex nec gravida ullamcorper. Aenean convallis sapien porta eros pharetra congue ac a ex. Duis luctus neque non mauris venenatis eleifend. Nullam lorem ipsum, maximus ut felis quis, congue ultrices justo. Sed sit amet nunc a enim laoreet finibus. Nulla vel maximus ipsum. Fusce eget nibh elit. Suspendisse pellentesque tempor rhoncus. Fusce cursus ipsum vitae felis suscipit, vitae mattis enim faucibus.

Morbi nec facilisis nulla, iaculis posuere nibh. Nam mattis, augue a euismod porttitor, lorem felis imperdiet velit, ac tincidunt tortor urna ac lorem. Nam congue ex sit amet nulla ultrices, in pulvinar mi condimentum. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae; Cras rhoncus bibendum ante eu placerat. In neque ipsum, aliquet non dapibus molestie, iaculis a elit. Cras blandit shining dui, id finibus nunc pellentesque sed. Ut lacinia est sit amet nulla posuere, non congue est cursus. Phasellus ultricies eget odio at suscipit. Vivamus blandit mauris in quam faucibus, eu efficitur dui congue. Proin hendrerit suscipit enim, sed condimentum elit tincidunt sed. Proin id mollis libero. Suspendisse vitae vehicula sapien.

Morbi cursus, dolor et euismod ullamcorper, mauris tellus porta risus, et aliquet ipsum quam in neque. Mauris iaculis sodales diam in imperdiet. Vestibulum ultricies iaculis ex vel porttitor. Donec aliquam lectus id lectus dictum ullamcorper. Duis euismod lacus ligula, sit amet vehicula nisi placerat a. Sed cursus maximus sem nec hendrerit. Duis rutrum placerat porttitor. Sed varius massa et ornare feugiat. Phasellus efficitur tempus ipsum sed auctor. Aenean hendrerit erat velit, in elementum sapien malesuada a. Phasellus elementum lacus quis blandit euismod. Nunc id blandit neque. Curabitur ut purus id ligula porttitor hendrerit.

Ut nec arcu elementum, interdum leo non, porta odio. Ut at ligula diam. Donec sit amet vestibulum ex. Nullam tincidunt velit non pharetra aliquam. Mauris fringilla turpis ut gravida eleifend. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Praesent dapibus erat ac ligula gravida, sed pretium ipsum finibus. Quisque consequat purus fringilla, elementum nibh vitae, lacinia odio. Aliquam molestie ante at ligula auctor commodo. In tincidunt efficitur auctor. Nunc eget odio nec mi finibus feugiat.

Phasellus ullamcorper ac augue quis pellentesque. Maecenas moosy luctus diam, sit amet commodo augue. Morbi tempus ornare ipsum, sit amet consequat nisl interdum et. Integer egestas ex at enim eleifend, ut tincidunt sem vehicula. Etiam mollis nulla eget odio tincidunt pharetra. Aliquam at congue eros, vitae venenatis eros. Donec non leo non arcu placerat consectetur. Curabitur dictum facilisis magna ac dictum.

Vestibulum iaculis varius tempor. Vestibulum tristique mi vel est aliquet, vitae ornare enim lacinia. Nam maximus a nunc id gravida. Cras cursus dolor vitae quam porta accumsan. Nunc viverra auctor odio.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 04 2015 23:08 GMT
#4192
1 rsoultin (Shadow: NocturneMage)
2 MoosyDoosy
3 GlowingBear
4 Rels
5 sicklucker
6 The Shining

give me a second.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 04 2015 23:11 GMT
#4193
[image loading]

##vote The_Shining
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 04 2015 23:32 GMT
#4196
there is no ls
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:03 GMT
#4243
I watched a good movie last night.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:15 GMT
#4258
Okay this is seriously my last post this phase.
We are going to lost the game because the-one-whose-name-we-don't-mention is going to vote wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:20 GMT
#4263
On October 05 2015 21:17 rsoultin wrote:
at least he's not just rnging bah -_-

lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:33 GMT
#4276
On October 05 2015 21:31 rsoultin wrote:
also i really need you to fully explain your gb reasoning, because i think shining and gb are opposite alignments for sure just as i think you and md are opposite alignments for sure @.@

gotcha. now you actually scumslipped.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:38 GMT
#4281
ahh nvm. i forgot sl is in the game.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:44 GMT
#4290
well now you actually slipped
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October 05 2015 12:44 GMT
#4291
On October 05 2015 21:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
yeah -_- associative

damn

okay i'm just gonna reread everything again

on the plus side

we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><

i just want to be sure i'm lynching into the right one @.@

WTF
there is one mafia in GB / Shining, I can see that
Why the fuck would there be one on GB / Rels ?
And more importantly, why would there be one in Shining / MD ? Their mutual reads on each other makes a lot of sense as partners

doesn't even matter sl should be confirmed mafia to her.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 12:47 GMT
#4295
Yes i was fucking right and i have solved the game.
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October 05 2015 12:49 GMT
#4299
On October 05 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. In id nulla non orci bibendum ultrices. Integer egestas magna vitae nibh aliquam pretium. Ut id pellentesque libero, a egestas est. Pellentesque gravida orci sit amet arcu volutpat, vel luctus arcu sollicitudin. Duis malesuada suscipit tellus vel ornare. Sed sit amet nulla neque. Praesent sollicitudin, mi id dignissim elementum, felis sapien commodo dolor, et tristique sem leo ut sem. Mauris enim urna, hendrerit sit amet dui dignissim, rsoultin consectetur nisi. Aliquam tristique lorem nec dui ornare mollis. Quisque ut ultricies lacus. In sed aliquet lectus. In aliquam elit in leo aliquam, et facilisis dui feugiat. Sed commodo ac arcu eu sagittis.

Donec in eros metus. Nulla posuere dictum sodales. Etiam nec velit sit amet erat mollis dignissim a et tellus. Nulla suscipit, neque eu euismod consequat, ex metus faucibus nunc, quis posuere nunc ante vel ex. Maecenas tristique ex nec gravida ullamcorper. Aenean convallis sapien porta eros pharetra congue ac a ex. Duis luctus neque non mauris venenatis eleifend. Nullam lorem ipsum, maximus ut felis quis, congue ultrices justo. Sed sit amet nunc a enim laoreet finibus. Nulla vel maximus ipsum. Fusce eget nibh elit. Suspendisse pellentesque tempor rhoncus. Fusce cursus ipsum vitae felis suscipit, vitae mattis enim faucibus.

Morbi nec facilisis nulla, iaculis posuere nibh. Nam mattis, augue a euismod porttitor, lorem felis imperdiet velit, ac tincidunt tortor urna ac lorem. Nam congue ex sit amet nulla ultrices, in pulvinar mi condimentum. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae; Cras rhoncus bibendum ante eu placerat. In neque ipsum, aliquet non dapibus molestie, iaculis a elit. Cras blandit shining dui, id finibus nunc pellentesque sed. Ut lacinia est sit amet nulla posuere, non congue est cursus. Phasellus ultricies eget odio at suscipit. Vivamus blandit mauris in quam faucibus, eu efficitur dui congue. Proin hendrerit suscipit enim, sed condimentum elit tincidunt sed. Proin id mollis libero. Suspendisse vitae vehicula sapien.

Morbi cursus, dolor et euismod ullamcorper, mauris tellus porta risus, et aliquet ipsum quam in neque. Mauris iaculis sodales diam in imperdiet. Vestibulum ultricies iaculis ex vel porttitor. Donec aliquam lectus id lectus dictum ullamcorper. Duis euismod lacus ligula, sit amet vehicula nisi placerat a. Sed cursus maximus sem nec hendrerit. Duis rutrum placerat porttitor. Sed varius massa et ornare feugiat. Phasellus efficitur tempus ipsum sed auctor. Aenean hendrerit erat velit, in elementum sapien malesuada a. Phasellus elementum lacus quis blandit euismod. Nunc id blandit neque. Curabitur ut purus id ligula porttitor hendrerit.

Ut nec arcu elementum, interdum leo non, porta odio. Ut at ligula diam. Donec sit amet vestibulum ex. Nullam tincidunt velit non pharetra aliquam. Mauris fringilla turpis ut gravida eleifend. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Praesent dapibus erat ac ligula gravida, sed pretium ipsum finibus. Quisque consequat purus fringilla, elementum nibh vitae, lacinia odio. Aliquam molestie ante at ligula auctor commodo. In tincidunt efficitur auctor. Nunc eget odio nec mi finibus feugiat.

Phasellus ullamcorper ac augue quis pellentesque. Maecenas moosy luctus diam, sit amet commodo augue. Morbi tempus ornare ipsum, sit amet consequat nisl interdum et. Integer egestas ex at enim eleifend, ut tincidunt sem vehicula. Etiam mollis nulla eget odio tincidunt pharetra. Aliquam at congue eros, vitae venenatis eros. Donec non leo non arcu placerat consectetur. Curabitur dictum facilisis magna ac dictum.

Vestibulum iaculis varius tempor. Vestibulum tristique mi vel est aliquet, vitae ornare enim lacinia. Nam maximus a nunc id gravida. Cras cursus dolor vitae quam porta accumsan. Nunc viverra auctor odio.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#4320
##unvote
##vote rsoultin


IF YOU ARE TOWN GET YOUR VOTE THERE ASAP!!!

I will expain later when i have time.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#4324
Please.

rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".
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October 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#4325
On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?

let's just vote sicklucker lol

oh you realized how you scumslipped.
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October 05 2015 13:16 GMT
#4328
nope
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October 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#4330
You have a tendency to "realize things" in this game when your team is about to fall apart.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:18 GMT
#4332
c'mon rels you are smarter than this.

rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum
rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum
rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town.

rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:19 GMT
#4333
Instead she wants to lynch GB....
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:21 GMT
#4336
shus...
well if you want to throw the game fine.
my vote is not moving.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:23 GMT
#4339
It's not that you are derping once.
It's that you are derping all game long in the same manner where the other explanation is just that you are mafia because the derping tends to happen in situations where your team is under attack..
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:27 GMT
#4346
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.

ls is not mafia, sl is not mafia.
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Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 13:47 GMT
#4362
wow this is going to be one hell of a post
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raynpelikoneet
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October 05 2015 14:08 GMT
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On September 30 2015 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let's see;
You had literally said your strongest townreads are Damdred and marvellosity.
That, by default means marv has done some things you consider to be extremely town, otherwise you are just plain out lying.

Now, marv does not post anything after that post (where you call him town) before you call him your #2 mafia read.
Some examples:
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let's see...ls came back, and i know he's looking into college so not being around for that reason makes it nai...my main reason for suspecting him again had fallen off lol ><

"LS didn't do anything to make my opinion on him change"

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sl continued pointing out interesting things that made him less likely to be scum, and i maintain my his reads are sl-centric which is generally a town sign point

"sl did some things that make him less likely to be mafia (not town to be exact), so it apparently overrides my #2 townread in towniness"

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cool's posts feel super new to me. could be scum but i don't think for any of the reasons anyone are calling him out for

"this null read on cool also overrides my #2 townread in towniness".

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Moosydoosy....

yeah there was nothing townie moosy did, that also overrides #2 townread in towniness.



Like, unless you are just straight out throwing out conclusions out of your head without even thinking about anything for one second, you are just straight out lying.

When you townread someone for any reason, the townread does just not vanish. If it did because "other people looked more town", well there is nothing you just said that suggests you are telling the truth.

On October 01 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?

what do you think that is?

note where my vote remains

GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin.
Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear".

None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz.....

yeah it makes sense.

On October 01 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina.

But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck.

You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread.

You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games.

You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does.

You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him.

You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact.

GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town.

And now it's too late.

On October 01 2015 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Basically i don't think marv's case on you does make you 100% scum. But i do know that when marv is so confident in his argument he is 100% town, and when he is town AND that confident he is probably right, even if i do not see it. I hadn't read your posts properly before that, for the reasons you i have outlined earlier. When i saw the case i did go back and read your posts.

What stuck out to me was this (why i think you are scum - MY CASE, regardless of marv's);
1) your read change on marv doesn't make logically any sense (in fact this is realted to his case aswell).

When you started arguing about his case, i also scumread you for;
2) your arguments were terrible, and didn't address anything he said, you just yelled "omgus omgus".

When i presented my case (1), you could not reasonable explain yourself, in fact you didn't explain anything at all, which makes (3).

Later on you scumread (or "scumread" i don't even fucking know what the read is besides "itchy") me for "not interacting with me, when you have had ZERO interest in trying to interact with me, while i DO have a reason to not interact with you, as i have explained. The only point where you have interacted with me before that, was when you 100% incorrectly "figured out Damdred's post is factually correct". Bullshit. Then you whine about you not having a read on me when you don't even try to get a read on me how you, as per your own words, read me best; by interacting with me. That would be (4).

(5) your push on GlowingBear is scummy as explained before.

(6) you twist things into looking like something they are not, you are not being clear and you don't even try to be clear.

(7) you don't have any scumreads (until you are being lynched).

On October 02 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 05:17 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.

maybe
but it's not really true that she doesn't have reads, she have strong townreads that she stated several times

who gives a fuck about townreads if you can't produce even ONE scumread?

On October 02 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
not to even mention... in over 20 pages of filter.
Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting?

On October 02 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.

kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.


this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3

no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that.

Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways...

So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days.
Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game.

On October 02 2015 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.

kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.


this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3

no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that.

Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways...

So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days.
Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game.


no. i'm taking a nap ^^

and i'm doing a reread tomorrow night as i said before. i have more important things than mafia to do, but as i was doing things in my limited time, yes, i posted it

yeah, apparently you have had more important things to do for the past three days while whining you cant get a read on me and saying you will re-read me. While producing 25 pages of nonsense.

On October 02 2015 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 07:46 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-

he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn

between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch

HAHAHAHAHAH!
that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed.


...that doesn't appear to be what he's arguing? he appears to be arguing that he was fine with being lynched over me when he originally got the 7 votes but was happy to vote for scott after damdred cc'd...what are you pushing him for exactly?

read the thread.

On October 02 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now.
This is what i was arguing about,

HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!?


i found the other time thank you rayn

mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time?
somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina.

On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.

Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim?

On October 02 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
rstoul i just read your posts. and I learned nothing about your reads on this game. they are absolutely filler. Like you are the filler posting champion. Like you are the god

OHHH SOMEONE GETS IT! <3

On October 02 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


On October 01 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.


On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD


???

like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter

who was he pushing on N1?
This is where he ends up on Trfel:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.

"He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me".
So who was he pushing then?


do you see him pushing anyone after that retraction, rayn?

no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?!
ridiculous.

On October 02 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 02 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


On October 01 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.


On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD


???

like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter

who was he pushing on N1?
This is where he ends up on Trfel:
On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:35 Trfel wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia

post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?

it really makes no sense at all to me
There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.

As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia.

the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....

You do realize that you are my top townread, right?

i didn't.

i guess i'm going mad.

oh well.

"He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me".
So who was he pushing then?


do you see him pushing anyone after that retraction, rayn?

no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?!
ridiculous.


no i think that given his posting he at least thinks there's a fair chance i could be town. given the posts above. you did read them?

yes i did read them.
no, that's a ridiculous conclusion.

On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

On October 03 2015 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there is a push on rsoultin from me/marv.
Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it.

On October 03 2015 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The way he dismisses the cases on rsoultin is also yuck...
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Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town.

On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...


no he really kind of wasn't

he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that

like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol

Let's assume this is true for a moment.
Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good".

Because i can't think of a reason, except for one...

On October 03 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch

but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room.
why does he do that as mafia?


he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me

you're still saying the sky is green

and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you?

I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this:

So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room.

So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more.

Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.

On October 03 2015 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.


-squints at-

so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that

i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^

Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies...

You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago.
Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town).

So, another scumpoint to you.

On October 03 2015 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So from what i have gathered from N1 and D2 (partly from D1 aswell) from you rsoultin is this:

- You didn't give any fucks about coolTLname when you imo should have. I am speaking of N1 here, you even went on defending him with factually incorrect argument. (see what i did there?) It's scummy.

- The way you "look into people further" is scummy. You are under pressure, marv says GB might be mafia -> suddenly there is a case (and a vote) on GB from you while you didn't care about the things you found him scummy for earlier, at all. sl brings up the voting behavior and I start discussing it with him on D2. Rels and Shining are under questioning for that -> suddenly you come up with "now i am looking into Rels/Shining" and you come to a conclusion that Rels looks really bad and shining is town, you don't even touch this voting behavior thing at all... Hmm no, actually that is not scummy, that is super scummy.

- You do voting analysis; you miss the most easily notable thing to you. That is scummy.

That was your N1 -> D2.

I think you are mafia.

On October 05 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
c'mon rels you are smarter than this.

rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum
rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum
rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town.

rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap.

1) Marv's case / my case on her.
2) When there are those cases on her, she decides GB is mafia for reasons he was not mafia before. Also the timing where the case comes.
3) Her read on coolTLname and "incapability" to see the scummy things on him (coolname's read on me throughout the game). Instead she thinks Trfel is scum. Never makes the case.
4) Her read on Trfel. She should have thought Trfel is town 100% by voting analysis.
5) Her read on shining. sicklucker pointed out how Rels/Shining voting history on D1 is fishy. rels explains this reasonably, shining doesn't explain it at all. She is interested in discussing Rels for this, not Shining.
6) Based on above, both of marv / Trfel (nk'd townies) put shining onto the scumpile (at that time noone else really did). Doesn't consider this as a reason to even investigate shining more.
7) Her read on Rels. Damdred the top townie did the same thing rels did, still it's a reason to scumread Rels (logicvally it isn't).
8) Her D3. Bullshit.

TLDR;
- not paying attention to important things that actually make sense (see for example read on GB D1, read on me, Trfel...)
- her read on me throughout the game is terrible, she should have townread me on D1 100% if she was town (see marv here - noone can actually read me except for marv, people should trust marv's read on me, and rsoultin should 100% know this)
- other reads are bad, and the reasoning is fishy (gb, rels, trfel)
- didn't have any real reads until N2 (srsly, she didn't)
- not interested in discussing shining when she 100% should

idk if i forgot some reasoning in my TLDR, but mafia mafia mafia!!
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October 05 2015 14:26 GMT
#4393
On October 05 2015 23:24 rsoultin wrote:
it's just really depressing to me that people can't see how town i am with all the work i've put in this game

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October 05 2015 14:27 GMT
#4394
I can do a "work of rsoultin multiquotepost" aswell if you guys want to.
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October 05 2015 14:29 GMT
#4396
It consists of;
"rayn is itchy, i have to reread him".
"i don't care about stuff that is clear" [or rather, where i (or anyone else) points that out]
"i am doing schoolwork so no reading rn"
"i am doing [whatever else] so no reading rn"
"i am gonna reread [someone] soon"

I can maybe gather like 50 posts like this.
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October 05 2015 14:33 GMT
#4398
On October 05 2015 23:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can do a "work of rsoultin multiquotepost" aswell if you guys want to.


you're hurting my feelings

i know it doesn't mean anything now

but post-game...you're really hurting my feelings right now

well i am sorry if you are town but i don't respond well to TMI.

I also asked you, really politely, on N1 (or D2 don't remember exactly) to actually read and try to understand before you post. You continued to do the same you did before.

so, however hard that might feel, it doesn't really mean anything to me after the game either in case you are town.

I have literally just made up my mind already, because in my opinion i have seen enough.
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October 05 2015 14:37 GMT
#4399
I also asked the same thing from coolTLname and LightningStrike.
All the three of you totally failed and decided it's better to throw shit and TMI on me.
I find that disgusting, unless you are mafia ofc.
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October 05 2015 14:38 GMT
#4400
and that is my honest opinion.
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October 05 2015 14:41 GMT
#4402
..or AtE, i don't even know what TMI means tbh.
what the fuck ever.
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October 05 2015 14:43 GMT
#4404
and now the dick move analysis suggests that rsoultin is town...
*sigh*

i don't even know why mafia has come to this.
##unvote
##vote The Shining
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October 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#4406
full claim please.
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October 05 2015 14:53 GMT
#4408
rayn is town
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October 05 2015 14:53 GMT
#4409
see this start was really productive
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October 05 2015 14:58 GMT
#4411
rsoul is town
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October 05 2015 15:03 GMT
#4414
sl is town
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October 05 2015 15:04 GMT
#4417
On October 06 2015 00:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
any objections or no?

yes
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October 05 2015 15:05 GMT
#4419
you
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October 05 2015 15:05 GMT
#4420
and seems like GB aswell.
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October 05 2015 15:07 GMT
#4422
then hard claim and the game is 100%
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October 05 2015 15:08 GMT
#4424
sl
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October 05 2015 15:11 GMT
#4427
On October 06 2015 00:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:10 LightningStrike wrote:
MD if you are blue you have to claim your role 100% right now.

There is absolutely no need to when we have scum in GB/Shining.

yes there is.
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October 05 2015 15:12 GMT
#4429
if you are blue the longer the game goes on the less worth your claim is. not to even mention if you are scum you are just fucking with people.
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October 05 2015 15:12 GMT
#4430
if you do not claim right now i will lynch you
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October 05 2015 15:13 GMT
#4431
noone is gonna shoot you anyways and if they do it's bad for scum anyways since you are a suspect.
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October 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#4434
On October 06 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
oh. well I didn't mean to be a dick. i am the town roleblocker.

actions
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October 05 2015 15:17 GMT
#4436
why did you decide to block LS on N2?
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October 05 2015 15:18 GMT
#4438
On October 06 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting.

explain
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October 05 2015 15:21 GMT
#4441
remind me what was your reaction to GB climing rb'r on N1?
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October 05 2015 15:24 GMT
#4442
On October 06 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting.

so you thought you were right on GB (=mafia) after N1 but ended up on coolTLname?
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October 05 2015 15:28 GMT
#4445
why exactly did you choose to roleblock GB on N1?
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October 05 2015 15:30 GMT
#4447
i don't want a timeline, i want an answer.
you'll sure remember the answeer if you are telling the truth.
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October 05 2015 15:40 GMT
#4450
he said his claim is not real on N1...
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October 05 2015 15:43 GMT
#4452
I ma going to check that out.
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October 05 2015 15:52 GMT
#4457
MoosyDoosy is not blue.
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October 05 2015 15:56 GMT
#4462
On October 06 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MoosyDoosy is not blue.

What makes you say that ? Will check by myself the GB's claim rescind while you answer

GB claims "his role" on N1.
He is pretty involved in N1.
Moosy scumreads GB on N1.
sicklucker points out inconsistancies.
GB rescinds.his claim.
Moosy goes all way to "happily ever after" and doesn't care.

There is no way he misses GB's claim/unclaim like he claims.
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October 05 2015 15:58 GMT
#4466
Does nayone else wanna claim blue?
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October 05 2015 16:00 GMT
#4468
more importantly, sicklucker/shing, do you want to claim blue?
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October 05 2015 16:00 GMT
#4469
noone else is 100%,.
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October 05 2015 16:01 GMT
#4473
On October 06 2015 01:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does nayone else wanna claim blue?

obviously scum will. but just lynch me first. we were already very productive and know that shining/gb/sicklucker is mafia. sicklucker may be wrong and you might have to look into others but there's your scum team.

there is no "lynch me first". Why do you even say so?
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October 05 2015 16:03 GMT
#4476
On October 06 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 01:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 05 2015 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just some random thoughts:

The Trfel kill was probably an attempt to kill blue but they got the wrong guy (itsa me Mario!) Anyway, there are several reasons why rayn is alive:
1. He is Mafia
2. He said he would RNG and they believed him
3. They were going after the blue role
The 1st only becomes serious when rayn lives the next night. I'm inclined to think it's the 3rd as the 2nd doesn't make much sense.

Also, as Trfel was town and one of the people trying to push off of coolTLname, there should be a Mafia that also tried to push off of coolTL.


Hahahaha

Is that what you discussed in the scum qt?

We already have two Blues dead. Where did you get the idea truffle was blue???

? And here the attack comes.

I never said Trfel was blue. I said that the only reason behind the Trfel NK > rayn was that they were blue hunting. duh

I am sorry but this literally means you think he was blue, or at least had a chance of being blue.
Otherwise you would not say this.
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October 05 2015 16:08 GMT
#4480
Moosy can you give me a full case on why you think GB is mafia?
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October 05 2015 16:11 GMT
#4482
As i sidenote i bought tickets to Rise Against on the 16th.
Fucking awesome band. Hear and learn.
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October 05 2015 16:11 GMT
#4483
On October 06 2015 01:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Moosy can you give me a full case on why you think GB is mafia?

i don't have a case

.......................
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October 05 2015 16:13 GMT
#4485
who do you have a case on?
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October 05 2015 16:13 GMT
#4487
On October 06 2015 01:13 Rels wrote:
So rsoultin reacted the the claim by immediately removing moosy from her lynch list ... Just have to wait for sicklucker s reaction now and the game is over

rsoultin is not mafia or the game is invalid.
ls is not mafia or the game is invalid.
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October 05 2015 16:14 GMT
#4488
Which kinda means i have been bad.
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October 05 2015 16:16 GMT
#4490
Why not me? I have been behaving like a really bad boy at least according to certain people.
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October 05 2015 16:19 GMT
#4494
On October 06 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Which kinda means i have been bad.

Hmm You never admitted to being bad in our last game :o

On October 03 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 03 2015 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously what teh fuck is wrong with people?

"LightningStrike could you read the thread before you post because... you know that's how this game is played?"

"Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled."

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT"!

YOU TREATED ME THE SAME FUCKING WAY YOU DID WHEN I DIDN'T READ THE FUCKING OP RIGHT IN OUR LAST GAME AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BE SCUM FOR THE SAME FUCKING THING I DID AS TOWN? JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE BAD

THEN LEARN TO READ THE FUCKING OP OF THE GAME YOU ARE PLAYING!


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October 05 2015 16:19 GMT
#4495
On October 06 2015 01:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not me? I have been behaving like a really bad boy at least according to certain people.

I don't feel like bashing a fellow person who does not care about the game.

oh but i do care about the game.
in case it hasn't been obvious.
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October 05 2015 16:22 GMT
#4497
so who is scum?
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October 05 2015 16:24 GMT
#4498
can everyone jsut post a list who they think is mafia?
please.
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October 05 2015 16:25 GMT
#4500
like;

rsoultin (Shadow: NocturneMage) town
MoosyDoosy scum
GlowingBear town
LightningStrike town
Rels town
sicklucker scum
The Shining scum
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October 05 2015 16:26 GMT
#4502
On October 06 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so who is scum?

shining/gb. mmm...the last one is a toss-up.

there should not be one for you.
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October 05 2015 16:27 GMT
#4503
the earlier you do this the more town points you get.
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October 05 2015 16:31 GMT
#4505
On October 06 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can everyone jsut post a list who they think is mafia?
please.

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October 05 2015 16:39 GMT
#4508
idc, just psot the fucking list.
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October 05 2015 16:45 GMT
#4509
If you think i am town you will post the list because there is no need not to.
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October 05 2015 16:46 GMT
#4510
If you need to go to talk to your scumbuddies before doing it fine.
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October 05 2015 16:51 GMT
#4514
On October 06 2015 01:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'm here.

Rels - town
Rayn - maybe town
Rsoultin - I'm not sure, maybe town
Moosy - maybs Mafia
Shining - maybs Mafia
LS - Mafia

Am I forgetting someone?

you sure are
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October 05 2015 16:52 GMT
#4517
On October 06 2015 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh I forgot sicklucker.

I'm not sure... I mean, if I take survivability literally, he is Mafia. But a lot of posts of his stroke me as town. So I'm uncertain.9

update your list please.
not "if's". Only town/mafia
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October 05 2015 16:53 GMT
#4519
On October 06 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait, when did you flip your read on rsoultin?

on page X
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October 05 2015 16:54 GMT
#4520
more accurately on pgae 221.
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October 05 2015 16:57 GMT
#4522
can other people post the lists plz?
i don't even care if they are 10 pages old or what the fuck.

just do it-
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October 05 2015 17:01 GMT
#4524
On October 06 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, why is truffle dead?

scum shot him.
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October 05 2015 19:11 GMT
#4603
So moosy and rels cc each other.
chekcs?
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October 05 2015 19:16 GMT
#4604
##unvote
##vote MoosyDoosy
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October 05 2015 21:49 GMT
#4613
I actually something to ask.
Does TMI stand for too much information?
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October 05 2015 21:59 GMT
#4621
mhm.. GlowingBear is scum.
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October 05 2015 22:04 GMT
#4624
Moosydoosy doesn't think his counter-claim is scum.
That's like "rayn is ccing GB but i don't think either of them is scum".

just fucking bs.
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October 05 2015 22:05 GMT
#4627
there is no reason he should not think rels is mafia when rels is ccing him at lylo.
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October 05 2015 22:06 GMT
#4629
On October 06 2015 07:04 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I actually something to ask.
Does TMI stand for too much information?


didnt you verbally attack someone for not knowing what tmi is earlier in the game? lol rayn

yes. i have played ~150 games of mafia and i couldn't understand how someone who has played a total of 0,25 games could know that.
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October 05 2015 22:08 GMT
#4632
it's apparently a new urban bullshit term like pocketing and other shit like that which doesn't really mean anything.
You can just yell "omgus", "tmi" or "pocketing" when you have no real reasons to think someone is scum.
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October 05 2015 22:10 GMT
#4635
On October 06 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Moosydoosy doesn't think his counter-claim is scum.
That's like "rayn is ccing GB but i don't think either of them is scum".

just fucking bs.


like i get what you're saying, rayn, i do, but at the same time what does moosy gain as scum for not "thinking" rels is scum? it just doesn't make much sense either way

idk, he is dumb enough o hard bus on D1 for no reason so i don't expect much logic from him if he is scum.
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October 05 2015 22:12 GMT
#4636
On October 06 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 06 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn

Why you voting him?


Oh so you ARE here.

Nightkills point out to Rayn being scum

Rayn admittedly said Marv could read him well
Marv is dead

Truffle was the only one with the guts to cast suspicions on Rayn
Truffle is dead

Rayn is alive
Others are dead

this post is the most illogical post in the game.
die you fuck.
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October 05 2015 22:14 GMT
#4638
I apologize for being wrong on GB rsoultin.
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October 05 2015 22:18 GMT
#4643
no it's like.. he doesn't have options anymore so he does just.. something.
illogical bullshit. other posts of his have some weird gb logic behind them, this one doesn't.
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October 05 2015 22:19 GMT
#4646
it's going to be shining/moosydoosy/gb
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October 05 2015 22:33 GMT
#4662
On October 06 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's going to be shining/moosydoosy/gb


you think gb starts a second wagon on shining, even as a supposed "reaction test" when we're auto-lynching cool? if they're scum together, i mean?

there was never going to be another lynch than cool, who cares what whoever starts.
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October 05 2015 22:34 GMT
#4664
furthermore, rsoultin, is he lynching shining now?
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October 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#4669
no it doesn't, from balance perspective it doesn't.
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October 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#4670
but i can lynch shining or GB aswell. I don't care.
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October 05 2015 22:45 GMT
#4675
whatever, i go back to not caring.
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October 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#4677
On October 06 2015 07:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but i can lynch shining or GB aswell. I don't care.


You want to lynch me because I called you Mafia?

Hahaha

Oh my god Rayn, you have to stop being emotional.
What are you listening to now? Avenged Sevenfold?

yes, i am callign you mafia because you call me mafia for shit reasons.

go back to listen to your Jamiroquai and try to get laid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#4678
I can understand why you didn't succeed.-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:19 GMT
#4691
On October 06 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
We have a 1-shot tracker, 1-shot roleblocker, and a townblocker to balance out the Detective.

Mafia has the Strongshot and most likely Framer/Godfather to balance it out.

liar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:20 GMT
#4692
which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1?
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raynpelikoneet
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October 05 2015 23:21 GMT
#4696
On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:22 GMT
#4698
On October 06 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1?


neither claimed it so theres a mafia one. lol @ 3 roleblockers in a 3 player game with a cop and a watcher this is not a mishmash where every player has a role theres some vts like me

But moosydoosy jsut said there is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:24 GMT
#4703
On October 06 2015 08:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1?


neither claimed it so theres a mafia one. lol @ 3 roleblockers in a 3 player game with a cop and a watcher this is not a mishmash where every player has a role theres some vts like me

But moosydoosy jsut said there is not.


and what does this tell you?


On October 06 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1?


neither claimed it so theres a mafia one. lol @ 3 roleblockers in a 3 player game with a cop and a watcher this is not a mishmash where every player has a role theres some vts like me

But moosydoosy jsut said there is not.

yes because i'm clearly mafia.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#4706
On October 06 2015 08:24 sicklucker wrote:
I feel like a mafia would not go theres no mafai roleblocker when that mafia roleblocker i already confirmed in the game

well town would definitely not go.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#4709
On October 06 2015 08:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, talk to me. I'm not Mafia.

You lost your privilege to be listened to again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#4711
On October 06 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:24 sicklucker wrote:
I feel like a mafia would not go theres no mafai roleblocker when that mafia roleblocker i already confirmed in the game

well town would definitely not go.


its one of those too stupid to be mafia spots to me

i know. but trust me he is not too dumb to be scum.
he is just scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 05 2015 23:30 GMT
#4715
On October 06 2015 08:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 08:24 sicklucker wrote:
I feel like a mafia would not go theres no mafai roleblocker when that mafia roleblocker i already confirmed in the game

well town would definitely not go.


its one of those too stupid to be mafia spots to me

i know. but trust me he is not too dumb to be scum.
he is just scum.


some qeustions.

1 do you think moosy/gb are trying to push thread sentiment toa 4 roles is possible scenerio

+ Show Spoiler +
2. do you think its possible the mafia team is rels/gb/moosy and they are doing some next level strategy where they cc each other so we lynch outside of the claims
.

No i don't think Rels is mafia. I think Shining is the third mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:14 GMT
#4803
rsoultin i don't think Rels is mafia. I think all the mafia are on Shining atm. Which kinda makes this game solved.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:15 GMT
#4804
like there is a tiny tiny chance shining is mafia over sicklucker, they basically cannot be mafia together.
Which makes MD and GB scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:16 GMT
#4805
Like i am really really sure Rels is town, and that makes at least 2 scum on Shining, which makes Shining either town, or Moosydoosy scum (so need to bus anyways). That's why Moosydoosy is absolutely the best lynch today.

I think Rels is making sense regarding the claim. I am never going to believe EITHER MD or GB believes there is 2 town roleblockers. That is just ridiculously stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:32 GMT
#4806
rsoultin you need to switch your vote.
Shining will probably be here at some point and if the townie who is on Shining is not moving then we just lose.. most likely.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:32 GMT
#4807
LightningStrike you need to vote for MoosyDoosy,. please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:38 GMT
#4808
On October 06 2015 21:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:59 rsoultin wrote:
okay guys here's the deal

PAY ATTENTION!

rels is mafia

things that make his claim false
- lack of reaction to GB's roleblocker claim
- 1-shot not claiming at start of day...he's expended his RB and can narrow the lynch pool. this is always the best play
- rels' response to md's claim
- first he goes to "check" on the rescind and even asks rayn why rels isn't blue
- determination to see md lynched cause their "can't be two rb'rs!
^ one of these two things is not like the other. there's no reason for him to hide if he's really 1-shot, so he should have instantaneously cc'd if he believes the second point. he didn't

regarding md...there is no scum-motivated reason to say that there could be two rb's...even if you go, oh, he's afraid! the simple truth is that lynching a town roleblocker ends the game for scum. there's nothing to be afraid of. yolo. him or me. fight to the death. secondly, leaving the true town roleblocker alive gives him a chance to catch out scum, and there's no way for scum to know if rels' 1-shot claim is true or not
- plus he actually did react to gb and scumread him
- plus he claimed in lylo, which is the correct move, and he did it while not under pressure

rels is mafia
and if he isn't the game ends today, which is just as well

lynch rels with me for ultimate glory! either i recover this game for y'all, or i go out with an awesome bang of stupidness! we will call it the rsoul crusade! gird your loins, gents, draw your swords, and obtain everlasting glory!

fuck you stupid moron. There is a very good reason I didn't claim at the beginning of the day. That's also the reason I know for sure he's fake claiming. And I waited before ccing to see yours and sicklucker's reactions to Moosy's claim.
You remarked that I didn't react to GB's claim; but when I show:
- Moosy was in the thread, talking to GB when he claimed
- Moosy wasn't scumreading GB at EON
- Moosy knew GB rescinded 1 hour after EON
It all makes sense to you.
You're the most frustrating person I've ever played with. I'm not sure that makes you mafia but I used all my care yesterday. See you tomorrow if I'm alive

This post never ever comes from mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:43 GMT
#4812
On October 06 2015 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:
I guess we can yolo MD here but if we are wrong we lose though :\

we lose if we lynch town anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 13:53 GMT
#4813
On October 05 2015 20:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
-yawn-

Rels, you really are a dumb if you think my read progression on Shining doesn't make sense.

A. I hard townread Shining.
B. When literally everyone else suspects Shining, what am I supposed to do? Be like: oh I still townread him, screw reconsidering. Hello? Obviously not. That's anti-town and super scummy. I said I'd read his filter again just to make sure my townread was correct.

For you to see otherwise is you trying to pull things from your butt.

And don't think these analyses get you anywhere. I find it laughable you're probably busing a scummate here as well as trying to nail a mislynch down. These are all tired thoughts that have already been talked about and your posts are literally just reiterations of each other for two pages with nothing new.

Here is basically why MoosyDoosy thinks Shining is mafia. What reasons are those? There are no reasons.

Then he scumreads Rels here. But when Rels counter-claims him he suddenly townreads him.
WHAT?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:07 GMT
#4814
none of the people voting for shining have actually presented any reasons for him to be mafia.
if that was a bus i would assume mafia would make a case for towncredit later. noone does that.
So there literally MUST be mafia there. More than one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:31 GMT
#4816
we can discuss this if you want to.
But just look at the votes and tell me what do you see?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:33 GMT
#4818
I think Rels is being logical around the claims. I don't see a reason why he couldn't - as town - wait for people's reactions before he counter-claims. Like it makes sense to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:34 GMT
#4819
Do you rememeber ~which pages the posts are-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:41 GMT
#4823
okay wait. i found it, i am going to read everything after that
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:44 GMT
#4825
- Okay so moosydoosy claims.
- I ask for his actions.
- First GB N1. He says he didn't read where GB rescinds (N1). later on he says GB rescinded on D2, which is a lie, and he has ACTUALLY read where GB rescinds. That is a red flag.
- On N2 he says he did block LS because "i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting.". what the hell does this even mean???? also he has said "okay on D2 i thought maybe GB's fakeclaim is not alignment indicative". but it was a REASON (GB = mafia) he blocked LS on N2??????


okay i stopped there, the actions itself don't make any sense. lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:47 GMT
#4826
Fucking fuck. And again it doesn't make any sense for him to think Rels is NOT mafia because Rels counter-claims him!!!! He had Rels as scum before his cc.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:49 GMT
#4827
On October 06 2015 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting.

so you thought you were right on GB (=mafia) after N1 but ended up on coolTLname?

it's gb. he could have just been town screwing around or mafia hunting for a reaction. but the fact he dropped it quickly made it nai to me. but seeing as to how trfel died, i'm inclined to believe my roleblock on him n1 made mafia fussy.

On October 06 2015 00:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Let me explain this nicely.

D1
- First time as roleblocker cool.
N1
- GB claims roleblocker.
- Well fuck you GB. Since he was lurking and acting somewhat scummy, I’ll just roleblock him.
D2
- I don’t even know what the point of this role is lol.
- GB says his claim was not serious.
- Okay, well maybe his claim was NAI.
N2
- LS looks scummy and inactive so I’ll just roleblock him.
D3
- Trfel died.
- Oh, well there’s no point in killing Trfel unless they were trying to blue hunt. Which means they’re looking for me lel. Only reason they would try to blue hunt is if they’re scared of something blue did. I blocked GB N1 which might mean I did something good and GB's scum.

One of the red sentences is a lie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:50 GMT
#4829
On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he said his claim is not real on N1...

Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late. I also doubt I would have changed my roleblock anyway. I have no idea how to use this role and it would have been too much of a bother to PM all three hosts again.

I sososo don't believe this.
"I don't know how to use my role".

ROFL.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:51 GMT
#4831
On October 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
MD said the truffle kill made him think he did something good N1...i.e. scum is role-hunting because the RB interfered with something N1 so actually believed the blue claims enough to kill truffle; he didn't say that's why he blocked LS

Okay let's assume this is true.
WHY IS HE VOTING WITH GLOWINGBEAR?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 14:52 GMT
#4832
I have to check something on GB.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:04 GMT
#4843
On October 06 2015 01:13 Rels wrote:
So rsoultin reacted the the claim by immediately removing moosy from her lynch list ... Just have to wait for sicklucker s reaction now and the game is over

rsoultin i think this makes perfect sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:06 GMT
#4848
On October 06 2015 01:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Didn't Rels think Shining was Mafia too? So he should be perfectly fine with the lynch only so long as he tries to lynch me after.

see here.
if rels is scum with shining he is already bussing.
if rels is mafai and shining is not mafia why is he counter-claiming moosy?
like none of this makes sense if Rels is mafia. He would be either bussing or he could easily just lynch Shining. Instead he decides to FAKECLAIM.... It doesn't make any sense to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:06 GMT
#4849
On October 07 2015 00:05 sicklucker wrote:
Hey rayn look at the roleblock targets. theres something very interesting in them that everyone missed that I just noticed

????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:07 GMT
#4852
On October 07 2015 00:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
In the only game where I cared about not making a slip was where I was actually Mafia.

Except you weren't that good there.
You made numerous of slips-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:08 GMT
#4854
On October 07 2015 00:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 06 2015 01:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Didn't Rels think Shining was Mafia too? So he should be perfectly fine with the lynch only so long as he tries to lynch me after.

see here.
if rels is scum with shining he is already bussing.
if rels is mafai and shining is not mafia why is he counter-claiming moosy?
like none of this makes sense if Rels is mafia. He would be either bussing or he could easily just lynch Shining. Instead he decides to FAKECLAIM.... It doesn't make any sense to me.

i already said he's town. rayn is not reading again~~

but the fact is town does not have 2 roleblcokers. Town does NEVER HAVE 2 ROLEBLOCKERS IN THIS GAME.
There is zero reason for anyone to assume that. ZERO!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:09 GMT
#4857
On October 07 2015 00:07 sicklucker wrote:
guys .... Moosy claims to have rolebacked ls last night. but ls did not mentioned he was roleblocked like dandred did. That means that rels is real because he roleblocked moosy last night...

GG LOL moosy is scum

there are no notifications. if LS is vanilla he does not know if he was roleblocked or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:09 GMT
#4861
Okay rsoultin. I propose the following.
Let's lynch GlowingBear?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:09 GMT
#4862
Everyone should join that because everyone thinks he is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:11 GMT
#4867
The fact that GlowingBear calls LS mafia and believes both of the claims is insanely stupid.
There is no way he should assume that LS is mafia, never ever in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:14 GMT
#4873
On October 06 2015 02:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 02:35 Rels wrote:
OK now that both rsoultin and sicklucker have answered, I can finally do this. (=

I'm 1-shot French Oak (roleblocker)

I breadcrumbed my role in my first post:
On September 29 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
yo everybody (= starting to read the thread
For the record, will be super busy thursday so don't expect much from me that day. Obviously, it will be night 1 so it's not that bad

FO 1 => 1 shot French Oak.

On September 25 2015 23:13 Rels wrote:
On September 25 2015 22:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I can CH. Promise to do better than last time.

Cool (=
Now please make me french oak

fidei told me he didn't cheat the setup to give me the role, but I'm pretty sure he did ... thanks mate. <3

I roleblocked Moosy N2.

My goal was to wait as long as possible to use my shot, to have more chance at blocking KP + maybe have strongman already used. But with us at LYLO yesterday if I didn't block KP, I had to chance it.

To do that, I needed to not be killed. That's why I did so few cases, and almost didn't use bold through the game. If you look through my filter, you'll see there is a big different between D1-2 and D3; with strongman used and my shot used, I could post freely.


This is the worst breadcrum I have ever seen LMAO

False, it's actually a really good breadcrumb.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:16 GMT
#4876
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear


he basically has to be scum he. he has to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:19 GMT
#4878
Look Moosy and Rels are not mafia together. There is either 1 mafia or 0 mafia. If there is 0 mafia chances of GB being scum goes up.

So let's say there is 1 mafia between Rels/Moosy.
sicklucker & shining are never mafia together here. There is 1 mafia between them, and the fact that almost everyone is voting for Shining means sl is more likely to be scum, but that's irrelevant now.

Glowingbear has to be scum. He has to be mafia here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:20 GMT
#4880
On October 06 2015 02:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 02:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Moosy

Why do you admit rels is throwing the game instead of believing he could be Mafia fake claiming?

That really makes no sense, I should be mafia from his POV. He just knows I'm blue

Look at the point GlowingBear brings up here.
Now he does himself assume both claims are real.
Jesus christ.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:25 GMT
#4881
We need rsoultin, LS and shining. Then we need the townie who is on Shining to switch.
Please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:26 GMT
#4882
On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote:
LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )=

I'll copy what I said earlier:

1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he said his claim is not real on N1...

Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late.

This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys gb is are roleblocker


I'm not, I was just upset and made that up

Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.


That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together.

The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever.

i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well.


You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it.

This makes no sense at all.

Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum?

Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure
I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately.

Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation?

Someone isn't reading the thread.

He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 02:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?


Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process?

Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post

No, I don't really see what's wrong. You could have just killed scott during Night and buy town cred from coolTL.

So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim.

2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 00:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So does anyone want to give me some coaching advice on what the point of a town roleblocker is? I guess it's helpful against the Mafia framer? But then my reason for existing kind of died when Damdred claimed.

Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (=

And we can add:
3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia.

4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming
So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens.

This is a really fucking good post.
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Profile Joined April 2007
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October 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#4885
On October 06 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Moosydoosy doesn't think his counter-claim is scum.
That's like "rayn is ccing GB but i don't think either of them is scum".

just fucking bs.


like i get what you're saying, rayn, i do, but at the same time what does moosy gain as scum for not "thinking" rels is scum? it just doesn't make much sense either way

Rels is never getting lynched here because you are the only one pushing him (at this point).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 06 2015 15:46 GMT
#4892
No, voting for GlowingBear is the best thing the town can do here. I promise.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:50 GMT
#4895
Well apparently you do believe his claim since you don't wanna lynch him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#4897
Except you do braindead stuff as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:53 GMT
#4936
On October 07 2015 05:36 rsoultin wrote:
raaaaayyyyyn

one of the claims is maaaafia

I know but you wanna vote for the wrong one
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:53 GMT
#4937
On October 07 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
rayn old buddy old pal you're voting town i think

i know this too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:54 GMT
#4938
##unvote
##vote MoosyDoosy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:55 GMT
#4941
If yo uwanna safe lynch we can go for either sl/shining but there is no guarantee rels will be back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#4944
On October 07 2015 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If yo uwanna safe lynch we can go for either sl/shining but there is no guarantee rels will be back.


well i'm fine with either really i think shining will be easier to push though

the thing here is Rels has the correct scumteam as his reads...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#4946
He even laid that out before Moosy claimed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 20:59 GMT
#4947
On October 07 2015 05:58 rsoultin wrote:
also rayn rayn rayn

like

we can just leave the roleblockers alive ^^ and let scum decide whether to kill the real one or risk getting kp blocked. that would be fun

nah, scum have a roleblocker so they will jsut roleblock the real one, unless we lunch them.
The scum blocker is probably the one who claimed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#4950
I will be really fucking impressed if Rels softed "his role" he is going to fakeclaim in his first post and then claims it a fucking week later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#4951
On October 07 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 05:58 rsoultin wrote:
also rayn rayn rayn

like

we can just leave the roleblockers alive ^^ and let scum decide whether to kill the real one or risk getting kp blocked. that would be fun

nah, scum have a roleblocker so they will jsut roleblock the real one, unless we lunch them.
The scum blocker is probably the one who claimed.


lol wow

roleblockers resolve simultaneously dude

they do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#4953
Okay let's kill sicklucker? Or shining?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:02 GMT
#4954
which one? your pick, both are scum anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:03 GMT
#4957
On October 07 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
well a double mafia kill would be baller

problem is shining could vote last minute so prob just play it safe and vote shining

he definitely will if he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:04 GMT
#4959
glowingbear and ls are you guys here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:04 GMT
#4960
meh okay we have to vote for shining, both townies are there.
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Profile Joined April 2007
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October 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#4961
##unvote
##vote The Shining
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:06 GMT
#4963
HtS your last votecount is wrong, MoosyDoosy isn't voting for anyone.
Not that it matters, but still it's wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:29 GMT
#4978
I think we win this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:30 GMT
#4981
We lynch sicklucker next and then see what happens the following night with Rels/moosy.
Moosy will get a 100% succesful block if he is town.
So let's wait for that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 21:30 GMT
#4983
If Moosy dies before that Rels is scum.
If Moosy doesn't get a successful block he is scum.
If Moosy no-kills we can lynch BOTH AD;DA;DA;DA;
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 22:10 GMT
#5035
On October 07 2015 07:06 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Day 3 Recall List


The Shining (5): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Rels, raynpelikoneet, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, Rels, sicklucker, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (1): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, rsoultin, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (1): Rels, GlowingBear, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, Rels
LightningStrike (1): The Shining, GlowingBear
Rels (0): rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (0): GlowingBear
rsoultin (0): raynpelikoneet
sicklucker (0): rsoultin

Tonight, I ban The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The spirits recall list is here.
Only votes on this list will be counted.

Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill.

The votecount is incorrect because MoosyDoosy has unvoted GlowingBear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 22:15 GMT
#5043
Okay seriously?!?!
MoosyDoosy is not voting for anyone.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 22:49 GMT
#5085
On October 07 2015 07:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
rsoultin I'm really sorry. It was not an act, more like me being mad at my mislynch Moosy being blue, people not lyching him after my fakeclaim, and me realizing I made a mistake ... anyway here it is. Good job on solving the game <3


lolol

suck it rayn ^^

<3s rels...sorry dude i saw it but really you probably could have still won, cause no one was listening to me

No he would not. As i said:
We lynch Shining
We lynch sicklucker.
Then Moosy blocks Rels and the NK.
Then we can lynch them both.

There was no way for mafia to win whoever is the real roleblocker.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#5092
yeah not gonna play another game aswell.
i get too mad with people who join games and don't give any fucks about playing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 22:56 GMT
#5094
On October 07 2015 07:55 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear was obvious town all game

I know, until he started shitposting the last phase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 06 2015 23:03 GMT
#5106
On October 07 2015 08:00 Rels wrote:
Talking about the "angry post meta" fucking thing. I really felt we were fucked by that at some point. Like "Damdred is conf town because he's angry" and "LS is conf town because he screams at me" is bullshit meta. Nothing to do to counter that. Even I got townread by rayn because of a stupid rage post. I feel this really needs to stop for mafia to have an even chance to fight; and for this to stop, the players in question needs to improve their scumgames.

Thsi is another reason why i just stopped playing mafia, except for invite games.

well played man, you got me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#5122
On October 07 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Rayn, I like you very much, I remember playing voice Mafia with you and having a lot of fun

I don't understand why you antagonise me so much

I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town.

You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#5127
I ma sorry for my bad play i was too busy lynching stupidity once again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#5129
On October 07 2015 08:13 Trfel wrote:
I do hate it when people stop playing mafia, but I understand

Raynpelikoneet, Damdred, rsoultin, we've played a bunch of games together. I know that I've been quite a pain on rare occasions (okay, most of the time ), but it's been great to work with you all.

Looks like no more free townreads for me, though, all of the people who read me like an open book aren't playing any more. Maybe I should give some tips to a few people so I can continue to be as lazy as possible XD

I ma prolly organizing/hosting/playing invite games and you are definitely in if you want to.
Well played man.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 23:17 GMT
#5134
On October 07 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Rayn, I like you very much, I remember playing voice Mafia with you and having a lot of fun

I don't understand why you antagonise me so much

I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town.

You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it.


As I said, more than winning, I like to play to have fun and I have fun doing those things because I like to see things happening. I like the debate.

It just felt that you simply don't like to play with me rather than thinking I'm doing stupid things. It kinda gets me upset because I do like playing with you.

Anyway, there's that.

well i like winning, so there is that.
If i want to have fun i go talk with people in TS/Skype or something. When i play mafia i play mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#5156
On October 07 2015 08:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 08:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On October 07 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Rayn, I like you very much, I remember playing voice Mafia with you and having a lot of fun

I don't understand why you antagonise me so much

I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town.

You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it.


Alright, the elephant in the room - this is NOT just at rayn but the townplay in general Day 1 and Day 2.

Just hear me out please. I realise people are going to say LOL HTS, it's easy to say when you have perfect information, but the fact of the matter is:

1 Townies DO illogical things from time to time. You cannot assume that a townie will play optimally 100% of the time. Suboptimal play does not mean a person is EXCLUSIVE mafia. Vivax gave me GREAT advice in Gaiden - is someone's read progression/case/overall behaviour believable from their perspective, even if suboptimal? That is the way to look into stuff. There are people who play very lurky or whose towngames are very scummy because they are new (coolTLname) or don't know what they are doing (Moosy), etc, and it's really important to try and see things from their perspective.

2 VCA (voting analysis) speaks volumes. I was a bit surprised that it was not used or looked into as much.

3 I have been guilty of this - but some of you need to watch how you use meta to defend people. People were hard defending the mafia for poorly rooted meta reasons or altogether inexplicable reasons. It made it harder partially for town to work together.

4 Town needed to do a much better job of LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. THERE ARE THREE MAFIA IN THE GAME. You might feel very strongly about one mafia, but someone else might be paying attention to another player for whatever reasons. There was far too much shouting over each other, and marvellosity even said in obs qt that this was partially related to #3.

5 NK analysis. Shining was strongly implicated from the deaths of Marv and Trfel. GlowingBear caught on to it but failed to convince people.

These are the things that stuck out most to me, but I feel that town could have worked a little better together the first few days simply by listening to each other and trying to understand the other perspective. Not everyone in every game is experienced as the other. And it makes it a bit more pleasant to play with others as well, foster an environment that makes people want to show they are town.


i used it very well they should have listened to me sooner. they completely ignored it but i expected that or I wouldnt have used it. THE SCUM TEAM ALWAYS VOTES SCOTT IN THAT SPOT

Funnily enough that was the reason i scumread Shining and probably should have scumread Relös aswell (i bought his explanation). Good job giving away BOTH of your teammates.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#5159
VCA is idiotic if you don't know the other wagon's alignment * cough rsoultin *
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 11:42 GMT
#5191
A few thoughts and comments:

In hindsight Damdred should have not claimed (obviously), but it would have been better even if scott was mafia. We could still have lynched another mafia, and regardless of scott's alignment him being alive on N1 it ensures Damdred gets a check. Mafia cannot roleblock him if scott is mafia, mafia will not roleblock him is scott is town. He will definitely not get strongarmed. I don't fault him for his decision, i would have probably done the same with the time left on the day phase, but it's just something that came to me a bit later....

I really really can't understand why people do not read and/or try to process what they read in certain situations. Nobody except for marv (and Rels but that's kinda irrelevant since he was mafia) understood my argument on J Roc (mainly looking at Damdred, Trfel and rsoultin here). I found out it very frustrating when i was saying "bananas are yellow", Damdred and Trfel come in and say "oranges are orange", and then rsoultin comes to say "Damdred is factually correct"................................... ugh. Please, try to understand the meaning behind the posts and thought process before you post. And this is not just for those people but to others aswell. That was just one of many examples.

I understand the argument behind shining read (that marv just pointed out -- and Trfel on D2). My problem is, like i said when the game ended, the last couple of games i have been too busy lynching stupidity. It's very hard for me to not lynch people who say the following stuff:
- first read in the game, "rayn is bussing sicklucker" [screw you motherfucker, I WAS EVEN RIGHT!!]
- some guy doesn't read the thread at all and makes bullshit argument for 72 hours and in the meantime claims "lynch all liars" and "people who don't read the thread are mafia".....
- some dude reads like only the last post in thread and follows the thread sentiment, then does VCA and ends up in a conclusion "this is how people voted". when you tell them to read the thread, they fucking mock you and somehow you are the reason they are not reading the thread in the first place... super terrible.
- "this dude counter-claims me in lylo, so i'll swap my read on him from mafia -> town" ?!?!?!?!?!?"?!"?!#¤#%(UDSJF....................

....over let's say shining, who was at least being reasonable with his posts. I understand this kinda stuff often comes from a townie, but at the same time, even if it does the town is gonna lose the game if those players are alive at the end of the game 100% (especially against Rels who was really really active here). I know this is a "shitty" thing to say but nowadays i end up lynching people who will lose the game for the town regardless of their alignment more than mafia, because they distract me from finding mafia. That's why i don't want to play anymore with people i consider to be in that category.

J Roc left scott in a really shitty position. For me there was nothing that could ever make me re-consired the read, regardless of what scott said. I am sorry for scott, but when i decide someone is mafia, there is no more "discussing", that phase is over, then i just try to lynch that player until something really extreme happens (like claim -- well that didn't really help here... ).

I liked the last day phase. The case/votes on GlowingBear basically solved the game (regardless of Rels/Moosy alignment). Rels you should have not claimed. I understand your reasoning but you have to think further. You didn't, obviously because you wanted to win the game there. That was a mistake because Shining was really really likely to be lynched anyways. Well played anyways.

sicklucker apparently says townie stuff only when he is pointing out who his scumbuddies are.
Thank you for making my game easier on D3.

Yeah, idk, it's nice to leave with a win but the game was still shit. Very shit.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#5193
I decided she is town because of her AtE. That is the only thing. Which makes it... meh.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 07 2015 12:10 GMT
#5194
And i really think MoosyDoosy should have been modkilled for not voting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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October 07 2015 12:11 GMT
#5196
ALSO SUCK IT BLAZINGHAND MY RNG ACTUALLY HITS MAFIA!
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October 07 2015 12:12 GMT
#5198
On October 07 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I decided she is town because of her AtE. That is the only thing. Which makes it... meh.

I really don't understand how you didn't see it earlier, though it's easy for me to say since I knew her alignment :p

she did a lot of things i considered more likely to come from mafia, i pointed all of them out.
But idk.. i am bad at reading her anyways. I always think she is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 07 2015 12:13 GMT
#5202
On October 07 2015 21:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i really think MoosyDoosy should have been modkilled for not voting.

Meh. He clearly unvoted to vote himself, so if the selfvote is not allowed, the unvote shouldn't count either.

Of course it should. If someone is dumb enough to not see they are not allowed to vote for themselves, then it's their fault. Same as if someone is dumb enough to roleblock themselves in a delivered KP game then they are dumb enough to block their own KP.
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October 07 2015 12:16 GMT
#5204
On October 07 2015 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I decided she is town because of her AtE. That is the only thing. Which makes it... meh.

I really don't understand how you didn't see it earlier, though it's easy for me to say since I knew her alignment :p

she did a lot of things i considered more likely to come from mafia, i pointed all of them out.
But idk.. i am bad at reading her anyways. I always think she is scum.

You just get stuck a lot on what you think people should be doing, which you usually reason from what you would do in their place. There's a variety of reasons for why people do the things they do and it seems that you don't really understand how she thinks.

I know i don't understand that (well actually i do now after talking with her about it).

But some of the things just looked very much more likely to come from scum than town, like the GB case on D1 -> which came when she was under pressure. And it looked like this:
- glowingbear does stuff
- rsoultin townreads him
- glowingbear continues doing same stuff
- rsoultin is scumread
- suddenly rsoultin scumreads gb....
i found it out to be fishy as hell.
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October 07 2015 12:17 GMT
#5205
Also her read on marv was like "no fucking hell...."
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October 07 2015 12:26 GMT
#5207
mmm basically the first thing was her reads on me and you and how she approached them that made me scumread her.
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raynpelikoneet
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October 07 2015 12:27 GMT
#5208
meh.. last five games my initial (first scumread) in the game has been 100% correct and 3/5 i have dropped it because someone else who is town starts doing dumb shit.
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October 07 2015 12:30 GMT
#5210
On October 07 2015 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I decided she is town because of her AtE. That is the only thing. Which makes it... meh.

I really don't understand how you didn't see it earlier, though it's easy for me to say since I knew her alignment :p

she did a lot of things i considered more likely to come from mafia, i pointed all of them out.
But idk.. i am bad at reading her anyways. I always think she is scum.

You just get stuck a lot on what you think people should be doing, which you usually reason from what you would do in their place. There's a variety of reasons for why people do the things they do and it seems that you don't really understand how she thinks.

I know i don't understand that (well actually i do now after talking with her about it).

But some of the things just looked very much more likely to come from scum than town, like the GB case on D1 -> which came when she was under pressure. And it looked like this:
- glowingbear does stuff
- rsoultin townreads him
- glowingbear continues doing same stuff
- rsoultin is scumread
- suddenly rsoultin scumreads gb....
i found it out to be fishy as hell.

I find that pretty understandable honestly. Things he posts later can result in having a different perspective on the things he's posted earlier. Plus it's very different reading someone's posts when you have sort of a townread on them over reading their filter when you saw something suspicious.

I know. In my opinion she didn't explain this clearly enough though.
I mean i also know it's mostly my fault because i was scumreading her already, but still..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:35 GMT
#5213
Rels you know what;
You actually had a chance after people didn't want to lynch Moosy.
You should have claimed scum (not literally, but make people lynch you) and then kill Moosy.
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October 07 2015 12:38 GMT
#5216
On October 07 2015 21:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I would appeal to emotion but for some reason, people don't believe it.

Then it makes you better (in that regards) than the people who are believed.
It really does.
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October 07 2015 12:40 GMT
#5220
On October 07 2015 21:38 NocturneMage wrote:
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On October 07 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ALSO SUCK IT BLAZINGHAND MY RNG ACTUALLY HITS MAFIA!


nice. speaking of RNG though...taking a look at the opposite extreme...

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On October 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few thoughts and comments:

In hindsight Damdred should have not claimed (obviously), but it would have been better even if scott was mafia. We could still have lynched another mafia, and regardless of scott's alignment him being alive on N1 it ensures Damdred gets a check. Mafia cannot roleblock him if scott is mafia, mafia will not roleblock him is scott is town. He will definitely not get strongarmed. I don't fault him for his decision, i would have probably done the same with the time left on the day phase, but it's just something that came to me a bit later....


interestingly enough, I'm going through the mods' google doc....rsoultin the wanderer randomly visited marvellosity the same night mafia killed him.

had that tracker lived and tracked rsoultin to marv...I'm pretty sure rsoultin would have been auto-lynched. that is some shitty RNG.

I am pretty sure the tracker would have been either roleblocked or killed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:41 GMT
#5221
On October 07 2015 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On October 07 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2015 21:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I would appeal to emotion but for some reason, people don't believe it.

Then it makes you better (in that regards) than the people who are believed.
It really does.

Eh, usually when people go for that they were pushed too far. The line between playing to win as hard as possible and signing up just to have fun is one that's different for everyone. At some point, people break and they'll do so in a different way depending on their alignment. I don't think you can put the blame merely at those who crack. You may play to win, but the goal (in terms of why people sign up) is to have fun.

Yeah but when people crack because of "you can't read me", that's just pathetic in my opinion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:44 GMT
#5223
I mean like it's certainly not fun for anyone to be called mafia for shit or "shit" reasons. But that's what this game is about.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:46 GMT
#5224
Every single time a townie is called out mafia / lynched it's because of shit reasons.
Yes i am referring to her, LS, Damdred and GB.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:46 GMT
#5225
Oh and coolTLname aswell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:49 GMT
#5228
On October 07 2015 21:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 07 2015 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh and coolTLname aswell.

he was gr8

yeah totally. i have never seen a player so disconnected from what actually has happened in the game before...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 12:50:43
October 07 2015 12:50 GMT
#5229
On October 07 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On October 07 2015 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Every single time a townie is called out mafia / lynched it's because of shit reasons.
Yes i am referring to her, LS, Damdred and GB.

I can't speak for them as I didn't follow the game close enough for that, just experienced it from Tina's side, but like I said the reason was more in how you stressed you don't think she can be that dumb as town which is why she's mafia and not really listening to her rather than the actual mafia calling itself.

in fact i was listening to her. but i talked about apples and she responded with talking about oranges.
yes she really did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 12:55 GMT
#5231
On October 07 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, I'm done telling her story; she can do it perfectly well herself

Voice mafia this sunday?

I know her story. It makes sense. I have talked with her about it already.
However i didn't know her story then. That's why it didn't make sense.

Voice mafia, sure. I can play today.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 13:02 GMT
#5233
Let's go to TS and talk bullshit now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 13:10 GMT
#5235
You're so bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 15:42 GMT
#5266
On October 07 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 07 2015 22:53 Damdred wrote:
While it might be true townies have a habit of cracking which isn't good... Its not exactly right or good when you know how to get them to crack to push them past those points.

Imo I never cracked this game due to being called mafia, I yelled at Marv for other things he yelled at me for other things. It was unfortunate and mafia unrelated.

Anyway yrah


-plops on a damdy- ^^

i don't know why we're being blamed for being emotional anyway? i was tunneled by rayn for a very long time beforehand and managed okay @.@ ish

and if damdy cannot be emotional as mafia, it's not his fault if we take his emotions as town indicators. it's not like he deliberately shows no emotion as mafia just to be read town

and blaming ls at all is silly. i think you know that, rayn

well i guess it's good i am quitting then i think.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 15:49 GMT
#5268
On October 08 2015 00:47 Rels wrote:
rayn
I feel very bad that you're quitting
The two towngames we played together were sooo cool and we owned scum in both
I hope you'll come back soon

you're hoping for something that will not happen unfortunately.
but you'll get an invite if/when i host/organize a game.
You play well. No bullshit, only mafia.
I like it
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 15:52 GMT
#5269
Not gonna lie Rels, you are the best player i have seen join TL mafia this year, for sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 15:57 GMT
#5271
Like you are not necessarily the best town/scum player, but you are really good as town, and when you play scum you are like... "uncatchable" (not literally -- you know what i mean). Your scumplay goes to the same category i have never seen from people except for HF, DP and wbg (Palmar to an extent). It is a really big compliment. You should appreciate it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#5273
Just wait a year or two when people start lynching you for "you don't have 15 pages of filter on D1" or "noone else can pull this off as mafia". Then you will come to the same conclusion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:02 GMT
#5274
First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:05 GMT
#5276
Oh my apologies. kitaman should be in the list aswell.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 16:09:22
October 07 2015 16:07 GMT
#5277
On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:
bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad

my town play is not exactly good wit this portion of players.
I fail to understand most of them and i come to wrong conclusions because of it.

Also my win% is pretty low i guess. Regardless of what alignment i am / what i do.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:09 GMT
#5280
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:16 GMT
#5283
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

It is not the point though.
I can't make myself lynch mafia or "mafia" over people who are just not playing the game.
I got really stressed and angry with this game for said reasons. When i had a break and got back to here, i tried to avoid that, when (now) it's getting back to me it's not good for me and it's not good for anyone else aswell.

I can't help it, i am a logic guy, when the logic prevails, i wanna lynch (or i get angry -- usually both). It's sad. I don't want that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:19 GMT
#5284
marv & JAT, i really did that when i got back. I got lynched for it.
I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched.
What am i supposed to do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:20 GMT
#5285
Like i literally did play better. I found more mafia.
People didn't lynch mafia, instead they lynched me.
It annoys me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:22 GMT
#5289
On October 08 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv & JAT, i really did that when i got back. I got lynched for it.
I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched.
What am i supposed to do?

I don't know. This is a problem that won't go away because there will almost always be people in the game who do dumb stuff.

Well i will solve it by not playing except for playing with people i wanna play with.. .who are not shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:25 GMT
#5293
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:33 GMT
#5303
On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible.

I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc

mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces).
except for you. you are listened to, always.

For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.

idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:35 GMT
#5304
On October 08 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb.


Maybe you should stop thinking that high of yourself because although you are clearly a good player you have some awful awful reads from times to times - in a sense that a laid back Marv could see why shining was scum on day one and you simply gave him a town pass.

Being logical =\= being smart, although being smart requires being logical. This is not a game just about logic. If you want to play with logic, you should try sudoku

not going to answer this shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#5306
On October 08 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible.

I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc

mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces).
except for you. you are listened to, always.

For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.

idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.

Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place.

Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to

edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow.

ofc this is true. but let me ask you this:
how do you think i managed to lynch scum after scum early on this year?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:39 GMT
#5307
answer: townies were not stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:45 GMT
#5311
I am not quitting because i am a pussy.
I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.

I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:50 GMT
#5313
marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game.
I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win.
I fucking cracked into pieces.
That is the truth.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 16:56 GMT
#5316
On October 08 2015 01:54 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game.
I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win.
I fucking cracked into pieces.
That is the truth.

It was a fantastic game, it really was.

I know it was.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 17:02 GMT
#5318
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 17:05 GMT
#5322
On October 08 2015 02:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 08 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...

accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone!

i don' t emply tone in any of my reads because that's just shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 17:06 GMT
#5323
On October 08 2015 02:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:
bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad


lol <3

i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case

i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was

"you stupid moron!" lol

but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them

Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p

what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie

usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense.
mafia claims are usually much tidier.

didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

Yeah that's true. That's why rsoultin pushed me. Didn't change the fact I was mad

meh maybe i was just bad at reading all of it then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 17:07 GMT
#5324
because imo rsoultin pointed out illogicalities of your claim.....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 17:17 GMT
#5326
nvm, i gotta yolo i am travelling in ~10min apparently <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#5348
Marry me everyone!
It will leadf to good resylts!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 18:04 GMT
#5349
Just marry me!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 07 2015 18:18 GMT
#5352
No GB. its very hard toi not lynch yiu when you do those things.
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