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On September 25 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: let's lynch me 33% of the games OK that's good odds I think I believe you get the "how marv reads rayn" treatment. whenever you make a single post that is "off" you're done. ![]() | ||
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On September 25 2015 21:58 Rels wrote: I wanna try tasting whisky playing this game what do I begin with Talisker Dark Storm. Fly to Finland i offer you a drink right away for your last game. | ||
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Talisker Storm - good Miyagikyo 12 - okay...ish... if i remember correctly Lagavulin 16 - good Glenfiddich - yuck, especially the 15yr Suntory Yamazaki Single Malt - quite good tbh Laphroaig 15 - ok Jack Daniels - as crap as any US whisky. | ||
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On September 25 2015 22:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: This is remarkably similar to how you try and read me tbh. Except I do weird stuff all the time :D no, not at all. | ||
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On September 25 2015 22:07 Half the Sky wrote: 10 year and Storm are very common and easy to find. (Yeh, when I say 10 or any number, that's the age, as in 10 year) Dark Storm looks worth a try when we're through. You should probably try this too. Best blend in the world and way better than most of ~50eur single malts. https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/islay-mist-deluxe-whisky/ | ||
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I am working outside my hometown today and at least tomorrow. Hopefully i can get home for tomorrow evening, maybe i will, maybe not. I'll be here a while after the game starts but then i am gonna be away for most of tomorrow. | ||
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![]() yes, there is four scum in this game. | ||
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i know, i was smarter than everyone. ![]() | ||
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i am gonna try if i am. not mafia. too time consuming. <3 | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:03 Damdred wrote: Rolled scum and decided to concede rayn? ![]() actually i would have preferred to roll scum and didn't. ![]() | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:07 rsoultin wrote: silly townread on ls why? cause...i feel like it -lounges- terrible. | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote: Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below. Requirements: A good person to team up with Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy Must not ignore my posts or talk over me must have a good voice and be funny and like walks Please apply for my townfriend i have a good voice, maybe? i might be funny. i enjoy walks. enough? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn who is with you in your scum qt? marv J Roc | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote: is it the same terrible townread i have? cause then you should retract and feel ashamed for being a putz who is yours? | ||
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marv can read me and then it's 100%. sl is mafia, gb is town. | ||
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i don't actaully think sicklucker is scum anymore. for the record to everyone i don't actually read what gb writes unless i think he is csum and he is not scum. but i have two really good scumreads. it makes one of my posts super funny. ![]() | ||
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There is a post that is horrible and you didn't say anything about it. | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote: J Roc is here Nowatimsayin Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia. Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn? no marv. you literally know all this here is 100% bullshit, and considering this guy is a smurf you should be extremely concerned about what he says here. and you are not. | ||
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never unnecessarily. which this would 100% be if i was mafia with sl. | ||
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It was about 4 yrs ago. After that, never. | ||
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I bussed in XXX and i did it hard. However i bus for a reason. The reason in that game was both me and JAT looking terrible on D1. If you read the scumQT i literally said "we have to bus, there is no other fucking way we are going to win as we have driven ourselves into this situation". In contrary, if you look at the last scumgame i linked, Slendy made a perfect case on my scumbuddy on D1. Too bad it came too late, so i just showed it off for "too little time, we are not gonna lynch SiRReN, you are scum if you push this" which was technically "right" as we had three options for lynch, and he was pushing a fourth one there for "no reason" about an hour before deadline. ![]() I forgot what i needed to say in the end here. It has to do with the last game as scum here. So yeah i made a case on rsoultin. I pushed it, and i pushed it hard. However, ultimately, i let Cory decide the lynch when we were on skype (it was an open comm game) with Xatalos and him. I didn't need to push rsoultin further because the lynch was between her (town), Tiger (town - he was the leading wagon at the time i pushed rsoultin hard and i had a "REALLY STRONG" townread on him for the best post ever in that game at the time everyone just ignored) and SIU (town). Like yeah, it's totally different than what i do as town (which is one thing Xatalos totally misrepped me in that game, unfortunately i just did not have time to fight him and that sneaky bitch posted only when i was not able to post and he knew it, props for it ^^). Every single person who was in any of those games knows this is true. Apparently Damdred doesn't, for some reason. | ||
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On September 29 2015 18:29 Rels wrote: @rayn marv told me the way to read him 100% after the witch mafia game He told me that as town he is involved in everything, and he can't replicate that as mafia Confirm ? If that's really the case then he will be an easy read at EOD basically that's quite close to the truth. here he is not involved in things he should be. | ||
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If i still want to eat at my food break i have to go, so more to come tonight. | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote: one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched. Damdred looks terrible for not pustting zero thought into this post. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:00 Damdred wrote: Nope I just tell it how I view it, but different views on that game exist no, there are literally 0 different views. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:04 rsoultin wrote: that post is effectively factual? you did. i agree it wasn't for no reason though lol >< you and jat were caught early that is the fucking point of the argument in the first place!!!!!! Are you all just idiots? | ||
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Then, when he flips mafia, i am going to ask Damdred something. | ||
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On September 29 2015 09:52 J Roc wrote: Alright goodnight, I am one of the few people on the site who can read Rsoultin. Town lean on her for now. rsoultin who is this guy? What comes to my mind is: jat yamato hf if this is any of those three people he is 100% scum. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote: -pokes rayn- moosy bugs me. am i dumb? my top townread. | ||
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But it makes it a fact that they are a smurf and when a smurf talks shit out of their mouth they are mafia just like any other player. | ||
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Yes it does, when you cut down bullshit from the thread. Which you effectively failed to do while that is something you love to do.. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:34 marvellosity wrote: you clearly don't know me anywhere near as well as you think you do. Well you can call it "interesting/uninteresting". The problem with you is it should have become interesting for you the moment the guy claims he is one of the best players in reading rsoultin. | ||
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On August 16 2015 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's like he approaches the whole Hopeless and deconduo as whole. Here is the post: Like he says "deconduo has played a shitton of games, i would expect him to do something". If you go to the database and look at the "most games played, you'll find out that: It's like, he calls deconduo mafia because deconduo is a vet and should know better "how to play", except that Hopeless has played MORE games than deconduo, and deconduo has been inactive for like what.. two years? In fact Hopeless is the one who "should know better" here. It's hard to explain but the approach as a whole doesn't make any sense at all. Another thing is this: There are two massive red flags here in this post. First one is that Trfel has literally no scumreads at all. The second one is the bolded red part. Notice he is talking about a guy who he has called mafia ALL GAME LONG (before Hopeless flip). Yet he doesn't somehow remember what ruxxar has posted and done. It's basically impossible he is telling the truth here. The logical conclusion for nayone who has read anything ruxxar has posted is that ruxxar is town. Yet he is somehow incapable of making the conclusion. I don't believe that. | ||
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MoosyDoosy could you explain in detail why you are scumreading me? | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote: ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though? It's like he says one thing then suddenly he says something completely different when anything should really have not changed in his opinion. | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:12 Rels wrote: It's not obvious from the post you quoted, but if that is what happened, then it is similar to this game's rsoultin read progression. Trfel had called ruxxar mafia for 3 ird-days. (D1/N1). On D2 he says what is quoted red in my post. | ||
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although i have no friggin' idea what Trfel is doing this game... | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:31 Rels wrote: This in particular: is the similar part about forgetting a reason to scumread rsoultin. to be fair this is true though. he literally says..at first.. that his "reasoning fro scumreading rsoul is not actually valid", let's call this reasoning X. When rsoultin makes a post he goes all "oh yeah, my reasoning was Y instead of X". Doesn't make much sense. | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:42 Rels wrote: rayn, marv, what do you think of coolTLname ? Mafia or newbie ? definitely newbie. not sure if mafia. | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:46 Rels wrote: yeah I didn't understand that part p: I disliked some things about his first two posts, but some can be excused by newbieness (the rayn / GB mixup + asking useless questions). Agree on wait & see I am pretty sure you called him scum though, no? | ||
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On September 29 2015 16:33 coolTLname wrote: I'll have to re-read rsoultin's posts and I think Trfel is suspicious but town But let's be honest here. coolTLname i would like you to explain how someone is "suspicious but town"? | ||
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On September 30 2015 00:24 MoosyDoosy wrote: Exactly how much of the thread have you read so far? It worries me that you didn't see that what Trfel did here differs from what he did in the other game. This is not your reason for scumreading me. Try again. | ||
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i have read the whole thread. | ||
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On September 30 2015 00:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: rayn, any response to the points I briefly listed against you? not really no. they are bad and some of them can't even poossibly make me mafia. | ||
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You should know that if you have read my filter which i would assume you have since i am your scumread. | ||
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On September 30 2015 00:49 marvellosity wrote: $10 says we lynch Jroc today after a million pages. Well as I said i am not gonna vote for anyone else regardless of what anyone does. | ||
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You have literally fucking argued for the exact reason why i am scumreading him and now you dumb down the argument to look stupid?!?!? You're probably scum. | ||
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On September 30 2015 01:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: Nope I have not been arguing for the exact same reasons as you. I just saw J Roc make a false statement and parroted what others had said about you busing yourself. I am not dumbing down the argument. Those were literally my thoughts. mmm and you think i am mafia for "not looking for inconsistancies"? | ||
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On September 30 2015 01:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: ? J Roc made a false statement. Not an inconsistency. Yes it is an inconsistancy. It's literally bullshit, because he is a fucking smurf which is proven by his "ability to read rsoultin", regardless of if that's correct or not. Him saying i like to claim mafia as mafia is another thing that is bullshit. 100%. People do not post things that are bullshit when they are town. Somehow you do NOT care about any of this, instead you call me scum for shit reasons. You deserve to die on D2. | ||
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On September 30 2015 01:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Okay, so what I said about your points against J Roc are correct in the end. No, it is not about bussing. It is about UNNECESSARILY BUSSING. You fucking argued about it in MY favor, now you somehow suddenly forget about the word "unnecessarily".... | ||
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bussing -> yes i do bus, when i have to (this is what YOUR post said later on) unnecessary bus -> no i never do that (which would be the case here if i was mafia with sl), which is what he said Like this is fucking simple. | ||
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On September 30 2015 01:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: ...bro that's such a minor detail. Whether it be "busing" or "busing unnecessarily" the meaning behind the post is the same. J Roc made a false statement about you and I corrected him about it. And you are taking this false statement as a scum read on him. That's clearly what I meant. But that is completely different. "rayn will bus" is not an incorrect statement. "rayn and sl are hardbussing here" is literally impossible for anyone who has ever played with me when i have been mafia. That's also why Damdred look terrible, for not realizing this simple fact. | ||
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On September 30 2015 01:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: Bottom line is that you're scum reading J Roc because he's spouting nonsense. Right? Yes. He is saying things he MUST know are incorrect. | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:48 Damdred wrote: one time as sxum rayn bussed his entire team foing so far on d1 to counter claim his partners fake medic claim to get him lynched. Explain this post Damdred. | ||
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The smurf comes in the game saying i am harcorebussing sicklucker ~1h into the game. MoosyDoosy says "but rayn never unnecessarily busses". Trfel points out a game where rayn busses. Your response is "that's right, rayn bussed in that game". Now, why in your opinion me possibly bussing sicklucker 1h into the game when noone has said anything counts as same as me bussing JAT 3h before the deadline when me/him are the ONLY viable lynch candidates? How do you explain those situations being similar, given that the argument here is "does rayn unnecessarily bus or not" and Trfel being a dumbass and not even realizing what he is arguing about? Or if you can't explain that, why the fuck did you even make that post that has nothing to do with anything except for calling me mafia by proxy? | ||
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On September 30 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote: it's only interesting because people are being moronic If you think Damdred or J Roc are morons then yes you are right, i would not be so sure of that, | ||
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On September 30 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: -cough- marv literally voted me because I was being a dick and he refused to read into my posts. I am not sure if you are doing this intentionally or not but why do you keep saying stuff that is just not true? | ||
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On September 30 2015 02:31 MoosyDoosy wrote: so rsoultin. What do you think of marv now? Why do you even care? You townread marv. Rsoultin townreads marv. Why do you care? | ||
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On September 30 2015 04:50 Damdred wrote: I told the truth from my view which is factual which at least one of your scum buddies in that game would agree with. And some of the people in the game. Incorrect. | ||
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It doesn't even have anything to do with if "my scumbbuddies agreed with me back then". Again, do you believe the situation in this game (assuming i was bussing SL) and in XXX game were similar? A simple question. | ||
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On September 30 2015 04:53 Damdred wrote: Idk what you say rayn it doesn't make my opinion factually incorrect. You didn't have to counter claim jats medic claim when town was super disorganized and everyone was going everywhere. It was an unnecessary bus in my opinion and your opinion doesn't outweigh mine or make what I say factually incorrect. And you do not believe it would have lead it into me being lynched when i was the ONLY opposing wagon? | ||
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On September 30 2015 04:55 coolTLname wrote: and in the beginning , where everyone is having friendly talk rayn seemed very mechanical. Also he keeps saying BRB, which irks me. He's irksome. however he has a town read on me which is odd, but then votes J roc when we literally share the same views so maybe not so odd. RAYN for president godfather 2016 brb | ||
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On September 30 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote: Because I was pushing Eden people were hopping everywhere. It could of went any direction no. you are mafia. you die when J Roc flips scum. | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:00 Damdred wrote: No your just either a moron or scum. I'm not sure which I hope scum well see about that. wanna trade 1v1 rn? brb | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:14 Damdred wrote: Idk who' I'm bad mouthing at this moment, you called me moronic first and I returned the favor. I 100% believe what I say about that game as its my actual opinion. And don't worry I'll be out of your hair after this game so you can rest assured no more emotional out bursts or someone trying to reason with you when you are wrong. In fact i did not. It was marv. | ||
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Add Moosy there and we pretty much can't go wrong unless Shining is scum. | ||
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gb: rayn who is with you in scum QT? rayn: marv, JRoc JRoc´: rayn likes to claim scum as scum sl: but rayn didn't claim scum someone: yes he did sl: no someone: yes sl: no sl: people not reading the thread = mafia ![]() | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:36 Rels wrote: Don't agree, Moosy makes sense in his reasonning. The only weird thing is him voting marv for a super bad reason. Actually his story makes a bit sense... not much, but a bit. The worst part is actually the tlname read that is.... ugh... it's not even a read. | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: sicklucker basically called himself scum. gb: rayn who is with you in scum QT? rayn: marv, JRoc JRoc´: rayn likes to claim scum as scum sl: but rayn didn't claim scum someone: yes he did sl: no someone: yes sl: no sl: people not reading the thread = mafia ![]() | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:57 coolTLname wrote: being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion hmm so you are in fact a smurf. can you now explain how is it possible for somneone to be suspicious and town, please? | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:01 Rels wrote: no way a smurf posts something like that: he's a newbie. If he's a smurf he's playing dumb ofc he is playing dumb, but he is 100% smurf. I remember Damdred doing that once with accidently posting on his own main account "if i am Damdred i am 100% mafia"...... as town...... I fucking hate smurfs and they should not be allowed anywhere. I am expecting him to answer me about his "read" on Trfel, then i am expecting him to answer me about why he is trolling and why his reasoning for scumreading me is bullshit. Then i expect him to make a really fucking good case on why someone is scum. Otherwise he can get lynched. | ||
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![]() there is nothing you can do. weak, so fucking weak J Roc. You are an asshole. | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:10 Rels wrote: OK to be sure: You' saying him saying "I don't care about GB's and Rels' suspicions" is making him 100% a smurf over a newbie troll Let me think about it ofc it does. | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:16 Rels wrote: like he had all this story about playing SC2 mafia for along time he joined Newbie XV, then /out to join this game it doesn't make sense Yeah and instead of saying "two people accusing me is hardly being under suspicion" he acts cocky and goes "being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion" is a clear indicator that he at least thinks you two are not capable of pushing lynches. idk, maybe he'll explain his choice of words then instead if he wants to. | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:18 LightningStrike wrote: I here for a short time before going home but I will reread every but coolTLname is not a smurf because he played with me in Student V when he got modkilled for pming Damdred in game lol...... Unless he was smurinf there too than how he got away with it. I will now reread the thread now. so he is just an idiot? | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:26 scott31337 wrote: Do you have any questions for me? I see the vote. Sorry to disappoint, but I swapped into town. not really i don't, there is nothing you can say. | ||
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I'll just tell three names at the end of day. My vote is on mafia. | ||
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On September 30 2015 19:24 marvellosity wrote: why are you finding it so hard to read me town this game? is it just paranoia from the last game? I think you are town, have thought so after i said "fair enough". | ||
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Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl. Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing. ##unvote ##vote rsoultin | ||
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On September 30 2015 19:44 marvellosity wrote: ok, if you're still sure about it tomorrow we can lynch scott this is a read that will not change, ever. and i am 100% sure about him being mafia. | ||
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His read on me was literally shit and he STILL sits on his read on me when i have easily refuted all his points. | ||
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On September 30 2015 19:57 marvellosity wrote: don't actually agree last time they were mafia together they had really really funky interactions together earlygame. probably quite easy to find in the database. It wasn't actually that funky. It was just... a toneread both ways and it looked, while bad, not scummy (at least at that time). This game is quite different. It's like... Trfel for some reason cannot decide what alignment he should come to as a conclusion regarding rsoultin. It's just... flip-floppy. | ||
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What happened between and what townie things did those all other people (than scott) do? In case you are not, sidcussing anything with you is pointless. | ||
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You had literally said your strongest townreads are Damdred and marvellosity. That, by default means marv has done some things you consider to be extremely town, otherwise you are just plain out lying. Now, marv does not post anything after that post (where you call him town) before you call him your #2 mafia read. Some examples: let's see...ls came back, and i know he's looking into college so not being around for that reason makes it nai...my main reason for suspecting him again had fallen off lol >< "LS didn't do anything to make my opinion on him change" sl continued pointing out interesting things that made him less likely to be scum, and i maintain my his reads are sl-centric which is generally a town sign point "sl did some things that make him less likely to be mafia (not town to be exact), so it apparently overrides my #2 townread in towniness" cool's posts feel super new to me. could be scum but i don't think for any of the reasons anyone are calling him out for "this null read on cool also overrides my #2 townread in towniness". Moosydoosy.... yeah there was nothing townie moosy did, that also overrides #2 townread in towniness. Like, unless you are just straight out throwing out conclusions out of your head without even thinking about anything for one second, you are just straight out lying. When you townread someone for any reason, the townread does just not vanish. If it did because "other people looked more town", well there is nothing you just said that suggests you are telling the truth. | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote: also i think marv is more likely town now and he'd probably be back up in my #3 or #4 townread so...lol does that make me scum? xP I don't care what you say about him now. I care about the fact that the progression of your reads does not line up with what you present in thread. | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:48 rsoultin wrote: and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum mmm like calling me and marv mafia? like.... oh you did that. | ||
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On September 30 2015 21:06 rsoultin wrote: hey, rayn, if you really thought i was scum so much that you insta!townread marv and rels for scumreading me, why weren't you pushing me? why haven't you been probing me for my alignment? that's odd to me tbh :/ explain i explained it already. i am not gonna answer a single question anymore in this game that i have already very clearly explained. especially to scum. now i am gonna drive home so see you guys in like 3h. brb | ||
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On September 30 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote: let me just make this super clear to everyone first point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret point 2) i had him as a strong townread point 3) no one was really suspecting him point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous >< there is so much wrong in this post. | ||
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On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote: scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously >< and this post proves it. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote: so why haven't you been pushing me all game? Because i have not read your posts. Is that so hard to understand? | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. ...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all. So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb. That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that. | ||
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because i read marv's case and then i read your posts. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote: you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all that's because the town was also retarded. that doesn't change the fact YOUR SCUMTEAM AS A WHOLE called me mafia and i caught you all. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote: why are you lying? that was a damdy/palmar push no it actually was not. regardless of you or anyone else voted for me that was not. and prplhz btw did, which is exactly why i figured out he is mafia. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote: now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you? what?1?!?! | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:23 rsoultin wrote: you can scream what at me all you want. you said you liked the case and read my posts. what in my posts made you go mafia? i am pretty sure i have laid that out. i also said i like marv's case. i am not sure what is so hard to understand here. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote: what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ? what marv pointed out. but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town. | ||
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I don't remember which game it was but the game where we lynched Kelsier on D1 and shot Tormented on N1 (yamato conceded on D2), you remember? I am pretty sure you commented in the thread post-game. What GB's conclusions there were were like 1000x worse than the "if rsoultin flips town we lynch marv" or whatever he said. So it's not "out of line" for him to say something dumb like that. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote: what do you think that is? note where my vote remains GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin. Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear". None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz..... yeah it makes sense. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:47 rsoultin wrote: why are you propagating this shit rayn? @.@ i am not, jsut checked. i don't argue with scum. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote: I just can't argue more than I did anymore. let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game.. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: if you're going to attempt to push me, at least pretend like you're putting some effort behind it instead of throwing weak potshots my way 1) not weak 2) no i am not attampting anything, i just find this hilarious ![]() | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote: yes...i didn't like GBs posts this morning after those three scumreads except what you are doing now is questioning him for the same exact thing he has been yelling all game long. And which you didn't have any intention to dig further into above other people (like marv/me). Instead you ended up in a conclusion that marv is mafia and i am fishy (at certain point - when, again, GB was saying THE EXACT SAME STUFF HE IS SAYING HERE). mmm... yeah no. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:12 rsoultin wrote: go suck a dick <3 last time someone told me this they were scum and shot me right after on a bright D1. sorry, i still don't do that. :/ | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: it is also very disconcerting coolTLname has his vote on rayn. hm...actually... weren't you supposed to think i am mafia, no? | ||
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i am pretty sure i would not prefer that. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: rayn, do you like this game? i think you understand what i am asking. no, not really, i don't. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:33 rsoultin wrote: it's tonal and it's because even if he isn't producing amazing cases or some such he's poking at things that i'd expect him to poke at i don't expect people to agree with me well you/trfel/damdred "tone read club" fell apart a couple of games ago so i don't trust shit about what any of you say on each other tonewise regardless of any of your affiliation. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:37 rsoultin wrote: but as with anything this could be the one exception to the rule! \o/ didn't you just end up with "Trfel is mafia" on N1 when you got shot? I would dare to say the last game you played with Trfel. He was town. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: didn't you just end up with "Trfel is mafia" on N1 when you got shot? I would dare to say the last game you played with Trfel. He was town. And yes, Damdred tried to hard-argue you and Trfel are both town in the last game you were BOTH mafia. And yes, Trfel is voting for YOU here in this game. So.... he is either right or YOU shouldn't even trust his read on you, or if you do you should call him fucking mafia. so, no, this circle is dead. The only circle there is is "marv reads rayn correctly every game". | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote: i'm not as valuable as a town rayn (sometimes) still voting mafia in over 60% of the games this year D1. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:46 rsoultin wrote: scum rsoul worries that hard townreading scum truffles and scum damdreds will get scum rsoul lynched when they flip scum not true tbh. | ||
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not on D1, no. later on probably yes, even more valuable then i am (well D2 is pretty close imo). but | ||
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the game i was just talking about like a minute ago. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote: show me one fucking game where i was scum with damdred or truffle and hard townread them ever Tropical Storm Mini Mafia | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote: i started with suspicion on him try again yeah and ended up hard defending him when people actually wanted to lynch him. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah and ended up hard defending him when people actually wanted to lynch him. You literally hard defended him OVER A CASE THAT A COP WHO HAD A FUCKING GREEN CHECK ON HIM BELIEVED...... If that's not hard defending a scumbuddy i don't know what is. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:52 Damdred wrote: I wasn't scum that game ![]() I know, but that is a reason why i do not trust your tonereads on rsoultin/Trfel. I mean i analyze your reads, but if the reasoning is "tone" i can't literally trust it because you were so wrong tonewise in that game. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:56 rsoultin wrote: the amazing hard-defense of truffle that rayn is referring to: so hard amazing wonderful clearly that was a hard townread good job rayn I am sorry but it is a hard defense when you'd rather lynch prplhz or even Chezinu and do not touch my case which was awesome even with a big fucking stick. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:56 Trfel wrote: Why should I care? There are several plausible interpretations for the meaning of that phrase. I'd like to know what he really meant by it, but it's not urgent. It's really not incriminating. Do you find it reasonable for someone to say someone is suspicious but town? | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote: Hehe yeah I just got mad and had them as scum early in the game then decided to just not work with anyone. lol ![]() | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:00 rsoultin wrote: REGARDLESS you are completely diverting me cause this is not relevant at all in fact this is quite relevant. | ||
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On August 16 2015 10:44 geript wrote: Vote Count Chezinu (0): Trfel (6): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, rsoultin (0): prplhz (4): Damdred, Not Voting (0): Currently Trfel is set to be lynched. Day 2 ends on August 16 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in geez i guess you werent on him after all. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:03 Trfel wrote: Someone from SC2 Arcade mafia? Definitely. Last time someone from SC2 Arcade mafia played on TL, they repeatedly told people to stop playing the game because we were supposed to just wait until someone solved the game on day 3-4 with power roles. And that we shouldn't be posting. fair enough | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:03 Damdred wrote: Because you guys destroyed the thread and anyone who wants to catch up can't effectively. I skipped 6 pages meh no, we didn't. Tina did. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote: if you're town you're pushing me on something the post you just quoted proves you wrong on lol >< If i was pushing you based on that i would be saying i am pushing you based on that. You made an argument you would not hard-defend Trfel if you were both mafia, which is a straight out lie because you have done it before. I don't need to push you. You are just misremembering, lying, or taking certain things differently ( what is hard-defending and what is not). It doesn't necessarily make you more mafia, and i don't care to figure it out because it doesn't make you more town either. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:13 Trfel wrote: I disagree with your fourth point. GlowingBear has seemed largely present to me (well, when he's here anyway, which is often enough). And it does feel like he's very willing to get attention. Maybe he's not quite as involved as he normally is as town, but he's on vacation. The way he posts feels exactly the same, even if the quantity/activity isn't quite there (it's close, though). I find it much more reasonable that he is town on vacation rather than mafia. In fact all the points are kinda wrong. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? On October 01 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: coolTLname last chance; how can someone be suspicious but town? | ||
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On September 30 2015 10:24 coolTLname wrote: I've only thought about his first few posts, but he seemed like mafia then J roc and some ppl accused him and he seemed like he was just defending without thinking too much about how he looked, which i find townish. like the flurry of posts made me think he was town, even though his logic seemed bad at first and looked mafia you mean this post? | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:23 coolTLname wrote: Hey rayn Can you revisit me when im actually lynch target and theres not a few hours left ? Thanks. sure. i just don't have anything to say about this days lynch anymore. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:25 GlowingBear wrote: WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BUS ON DAY 1? How can you fucking say there is someone bussing without a fucking flip? Just vote the scummiest, it's almost impossible to have a scum team out of associafion day1. I find that whoever does this on day1 is usually Mafia. now this is funny because you don't really think scott is scum.... | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote: Oh, sorry, I see what you're saying. You can't reverse your read on me here after you get votes on you. That would result in you being lynched. It would be extremely opportunistic. If this wagon had never happened, then you could have reversed your read on me. You said that Rels is mafia because he switched his vote from me (his scumread) to you, who can't be mafia with me (from Rels' perspective). That is why this is important. townpile ![]() | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:29 coolTLname wrote: Thats a good question , i will compile some stuffs for the thread. But mostly because theres commonly a mislynch day 1, and the way the people i think are mafia are voting/ behaving. Like super chill and relax.. like Aha theres 2 town being lynched, we can just chill. and now look what GB and his minions are freaking out no. be back in 15 minutes with some reads as rsoultin you've posted a ton of shit , just saying townies post lots, mafia are usually more quiet. * this would by default make you mafia btw. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:33 coolTLname wrote: so then vote me , otherwise stop derailing thread mafia . Id be okay with a lynch on me rather than rsoultin question; are you a fucking idiot or what? yes, i am 100% serious here. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: Okay guys, this is actually very simple. rayn literally said he would not care if he was Mafia. If we look at what he’s done so far, he’s been freewheeling and attacking things that he can remember without much effort. This recent push on rsoul also show how little effort he’s employing. He’s relying on meta which he almost never does and is getting things wrong about what happened in the thread. rayn’s also missed out on several inconsistencies but hasn’t really cared to remember things that have happened in this thread. I asked people to read the argument between rsoul and rayn, because it’s actually a pointless argument where rayn is just trying to nail her down. rayn is Mafia and he doesn’t want to be it and has already said he’s not enjoying the game. #freerayn2015 what? 1) I am not relying on meta on anything i have ever said on rsoultin in this game. I am pointing out how HER meta "i can't do this or that" is bullshit. I am not the one making the arguments. 2) I missed one inconsistency on GB. Which is clear why. I read him town, i said i won't read his posts. 3) I am not trying to nail anything down, see (1). 4) I cared about the game as much as i could, until morning. Then i decided to care again when marv became 100% town. I am caring. If you can't see who is mafia it doesn't make me mafia, it makes you stupid. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: rayn, what do you think of sicklucker? town | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:10 GlowingBear wrote: Just vote cool TL name, he is coming with all sorts of bad arguments Do you understand you are getting lynched here if you do not vote for rsoultin? There is one mafia on you atm, you are tied with her and one mafia will switch his vote from rsoul to you. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:15 GlowingBear wrote: I don't care, I just want to try and lynch Mafia. If towbies are stupid and lunch me / does not consolidate, then it's their fault well rsoultin is mafia. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: sicklucker made a false statement. I don't see you jumping all over it for some reason like you did with J Roc. where? | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:22 GlowingBear wrote: Like, tell me where he reacted to some information and used it to link all the players he is linking. He has being playing just like Shockey in that game he was always just considering scum teams I know he is likely to be mafia but both of rsoultin & J Roc are more likely. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: In the post I quoted. Open the nested stuff. You mean the "rayn never claimed scum"? In fact i kinda called sl mafia for it later. In a jokingly manner because i wa already kinda sure it doesn't even mean anything. I don't consider that as a scumtell in itself because sl is not... necessarily the most careful reader. You know you should read people as what hey do and are capable of as people. I don't consider all the people the same. | ||
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I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl). So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this. I think rsoultin is mafia. I think J Roc is mafia. I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia. coolnamedude is probably the third scum. I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i lied maybe i consider Ver also better than i am. the maybe is because he made me a town pardoner once which is retarded as fuck. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote: in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol.. yeah totally what i did. good job. are you planning on reading the thread soon? | ||
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Sorry i don't live in USA you jackasses. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote: in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol.. On October 01 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah totally what i did. good job. are you planning on reading the thread soon? On October 01 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote: eh yeah and he did give reads on me before earlier too but i still think he's town and it's frustrating >< did you ever say why you were reading truffle town? because your consolidate on gb thing makes no sense at all without a strong read on truffle On October 01 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never ever fucking said so. Are you planning on reading my posts rsoultin? On October 01 2015 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: pfff... havn't = hadn't which should be fucking obvious for anyone reading anything i have ever wrote in this game. Sorry i don't live in USA you jackasses. On October 01 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote: on what? like, you've been posting on me when i know i'm town so that's not really that interesting to me tbh...i know you want to lynch j roc but i'm not sure why you think gb is town i could filter dive and still probably have questions but it would be better if you just answered...or keep tunneling me to a mislynch that works too lol >< All these posts are NEARLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER in this thread. You know for a fact i am not a native english speaker and jsut because i happened to write has instead of had the context of my post "changes so much you for some reason can't anymore understand what i was talking about there". Fucking bullshit to the fullest. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: what marv pointed out. but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:19 rsoultin wrote: that wasn't why you read him town initially though? i'm asking about your initial read also...marv did say he could be reasonable as scum so i'm not sure that's a good enough reason? maybe your initial read was? yes it was. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote: you've gotten mad at him a lot? i dunnae i don't remember and no no no fuck it rayn come on you townread him super early...this post was today! like seriously >< i town read him for his early posts. i always read him for his early posts. then i ignore. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:27 coolTLname wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=31 So after i vote Rayn, GB suddenly shows up again and posts a lot to distract from what im saying. Also someone mentioned before that GB was being "mechanical" and i agreed. i think rsoultin mentioned that GB usually posts like a crack addict as town, and thats definitely not happening. If anything i think his reads are pretty mediocre (and im new lol ) and he hasn't been doing much reading or anything helpful except one block of text that was really hard to read, no spaces or anything. and now he suspects me, im not sure what to think about that, but i think i look town for the most part? Also if u notice, by voting me , he is making it more likely for rsoultin to be lynched, which is the bigger threat to mafia. I also noticed rels doing this same thing by sliding down his vote to me, but town prob mmm and your read is shit because i am not mafia nad you can't even fucking use that a read unless i flip mafia so you are pushing the wrong person, sir. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote: okay but what about his early posts made you think he was town? he was not being a total dumbass. everything i read, i don't remember when i stopped and i don't really care to argue about that rn. | ||
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i had one on palmar, which failed the last game, which is why it makes this one of the two i have. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:36 rsoultin wrote: also, rayn, why do you think your top scumread is pushing me if i'm scum? because he does not have an option. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:37 rsoultin wrote: and truffle and gb aren't options? be real not really, no. he'll claim 100% mafia if one of those flips scum. Even if you lynch town D1 that is a disaster. | ||
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he can only shoot himself into foot. someone else needs to push a lynch from your team, sry bby. | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote: you've made this quite miserable for me above and beyond what probably it ever should be tbh i was not the one who told the other one to go suck dick. | ||
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But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck. You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread. You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games. You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does. You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him. You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact. GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town. And now it's too late. | ||
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If someone askas you to fully explain something then you do. Or do not. But if you get lynched for it and are town, it's your fault. | ||
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i am trying to be polite towards a person i fucking respect, unlike you. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote: i have better things to do such as defend rsoultin directly or accuse the glowing bear/ rayn and possibly sicklucker one of whom have 3 votes on. not really, you are accusing 3 townies. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote: i still think he could be? like you've been wrong before, even if you're town, so i don't know why you'd expect me to trust your read over mine here have i? when? | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:06 sicklucker wrote: Cool have you figured out which one of me and rayn is the roleblocker and the gf yet? ahahah ^^ | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote: i do think scott could be mafia but i know that i tend to read him mafia and i don't have strong reasons for it really so i'm not trying to push him over gb. maybe i "should" do it if i'm town, but i'm going to push what i feel strongest about and your toneread just isn't enough to throw my gb read out the window? I don't care about the read on scott. My read on J Roc is 100%. Apparently you have totally dismissed that. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:10 coolTLname wrote: Again Rsoultin literally has a 20 page filter, please don't lynch the obviously very active townie. (most active player) here Rayn says Rsoultin hasn't been doing anything but shes the MOST active. I suspect rayn the most, the above about rsoultin is a total lie, and he claims GB is not mafia , who is his buddy. the bolded is a total lie. see what i did there? | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:11 rsoultin wrote: we've fought over reads plenty of times. you've been right on some, i've been right on some, but you're not infallible oh but i am talking about specifically about GB here. He can probably back me up. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote: i'm not sure this is really true tbh i trust your d1 reads above mine i am honest i didn't know that. ![]() | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:15 marvellosity wrote: why is GB town? i'm sure you explained somewhere but i forgot and i still have lots of things to do that are not-mafia before deadline He is being at least semi-reasonable. You can call that bullshit if you want to. I have never been wrong on GB in any game after the first time he rolled mafia. If him/you/someone want to prove me wrong go ahead. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote: certainly this year ![]() i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure. almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1... well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin. Your pick. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:17 sicklucker wrote: When me and rayn were mafia (i already mentioned this) he spammed the qt about how bad i was playing but he never bussed. ( also i got nominated for best scum fu rayn! ![]() You actually "claimed mafia" quite early in the game but unlike Palmar i didn't point that out because i had other shit to talk about instead. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote: but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong it makes him fucking mafia because he is a smurf who is actually capable of playing this game and at least claims he knows me very well. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:19 marvellosity wrote: we can do it. i'm feeling weak and my lack of confidence from the last 6 months or so is catching up with me xD have you read/evaluated scott's posts at all? not really. i have read them but there is pretty much nothing interesting in there. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:23 sicklucker wrote: acualy rstoulin talking for 20 pages and not coming up with any solid reads reminds me of that first game we played as town were it took her 6 day to lynch the confirmed mafia hf ...and if rsoultin talks about 20 pages and comes up with no solid reads she is likely to be mafia. but mmm... i really don't care. I can lynch J Roc / rsoultin, i am not gonna vote for anyone else. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:33 scott31337 wrote: Rayn's tunnelled on me for my past I had nothing to do with..... ![]() true. sorry ![]() | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:36 rsoultin wrote: ah yeah nah at least damdy and i had already townread you and i think rayn had too it wasn't particularly original of him in that sense hmm not really no. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: anyone not voting for scott gets a scumread. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:43 The Shining wrote: Hes being semi reasonable, therefore town? This contradicts the LS townread of him that as scum he makes more sense as scum and makes no sense as town. You have to be at least somewhat reasonable to make sense and if GB is making sense, he's scum to LS. What do you think about the LS read on GB? Like from what I see, you guys have opposite reasons for calling GB town. well LS is terrible. | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote: Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname? there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed. THER EIS LITERALLY NO WAY!!! | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:04 sicklucker wrote: huh? seems fine to me assuming he has not caught up there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets. no no no. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote: ...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he? yes when you went to (1) GB became a "more likely lynch than you did". | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes when you went to (1) GB became a "more likely lynch than you did". furthermore there is never a thread sentiment that suggests what LS is saying. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote: When I was skimming I saw people throwing around Tina, coolTLname and scott as lynch targets honestly so that how I ended up with that list of that I saw were the lynch targets. Also to answer your question Shining I think he scum for his odd play not matching up to what some people said and didn't have good content either. mmm but you never see anyone saying anything about GB? seems legit. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote: GB but it wasn't as prevalent as the main 3. there is about 5 pages of discussion on GB being mafia. You missed all that while "you were skimming"? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote: Did I skim it to quickly. Fuck me just lynch me. LYNCH ME. i am trying to do that so you just better claim. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote: I would rather die than let tina get lynched. I am VT afterall is she mafia if you are? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote: well isn't this just lovely. mmm | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote: we're gonna lynch cooltlname and he'll flip town and we'll have nothing oh well i believe this, unless; 1) he is dumb as fuck (even dumber than you think) 2) mafia with rsoul | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote: Hey guys since can we go back to lynching trefel? i think ls is pretty obv town here. the classic vt claim and that confidence no | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:33 sicklucker wrote: I think you gotta lay off rsou on this one rayn. she was typing for like 7 hours straight that doesn't make her anything. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:35 marvellosity wrote: like does theShining usually have zero drive to solve the game? i have no idea. but that's how it reads to me. why do you care? find a lynch instead? this is annoying. he is not mafia.- | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:35 rsoultin wrote: i was gone for maybe an hour in there and I WAS THE LEADING WAGON WHEN I WAS GONE so by definition you are either SUPREMELY mistaken right now or lying through YOUR DAMNED TEETH i am proving you wrong tomorrow, your posting frequency and tone went down pretty fucking quickly when you were not the "leading wagon" any more. I have an intuition on these things and i am not gonna explain it further unless i have to. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:37 marvellosity wrote: i'm so so fucking bored of the current TL meta where people confidently declare multiple people clear town based on nothing because he says smart stuff. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: Scott, gb, and sl is possible here. rsoultin too. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=106 can you read this page until LightningStrike posts and tell me your opinion? I have zero confidence he is telling the truth here. | ||
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On October 01 2015 18:29 marvellosity wrote: you mean this? i didn't understand why you said this at the time tbh splain to me? It's like.... ugh... Those things didn't happen.. fuck how to explain it... those things happened at separate times in the thread. It's like he is picking up something from point A and something else from point B and something from point X and he constructs a scenario from them. Like he has either read the thread or he hasn't, and his post suggests BOTH. | ||
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On October 01 2015 18:36 marvellosity wrote: i kinda assumed when i read it he glanced at the voting thread. is that not possible? it's very unusual that a mafia team will keep a running commentary in their QT of exactly who is up for lynch... he literally said he skimmed the thread in the post where he votes for coolname. It's like, he is informed enough to know that coolname is a lynch target, but he is not informed enough to know that coolname is a lynch target MAINLY BECAUSE scott claimed..... | ||
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There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". | ||
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On October 01 2015 18:42 marvellosity wrote: coolTLname was always one of the primary lynch targets? like did he ever have less than 4-5 votes in the last couple hours he was the primary lynch target before we started shifting over to scott, and he still was even then no, but the thing is when people shifted to scott (he didn't have any votes at first), the rsoultin lynch literally died at the same time. -> GlowingBear lynch appeared between a shift to scott. There is just no fucking point in the game where rsoultin/scott/coolname were main lynch targets. If he read the voting thread he would have said "hmm looks like GB/coolname/scott are our lynch targets". | ||
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Put these two together: On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote: Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname? at the same time, in the voting thread: On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: Day 1 Recall List rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname Trfel (2): coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining raynpelikoneet (0): marvellosity (0): scott31337 (1): marvellosity, Not listing (1): rsoultin, Like where does he get this? Not from the voting thread. Also not from the thread either. I am just asking, where? | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me. Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are. | ||
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If you are town and behind the thread you skim it. That's what LS did (in case he is town - which makes him telling the truth). Now put yourself into LS' situation here and look at the posts. The normal things people do when they skim the thread are; 1) am i under attack? do i need to defend myself? (especially from LS' point of view) - well no, okay so good. 2) who do i think is mafia, are they being voted? - well LS doesn't really think anyone is mafia, let's say "fair enough" for shits and giggles 3) i don't think anyone is mafia, who are being voted for so i can try lynch scum? - does it look like he did this? 4) why are the people being voted for are voted for, so i can make a better judgement call? - don't even start.... Every single mafia player does that, as town, because they want to lynch mafia and not get lynched. Sometimes excluding step 1. Now does it look like to you that LS did any of the steps 2-4? | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote: My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that? (2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too? I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on I think you are focusing too much on "if LS flips mafia it does incriminate me", which it does not. Read my latest post. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote: My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that? (2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too? 1) i don't care. it's not my point. 2) yes but at least that "shit" has direction that can be explained from town perspective. For example from the last game: people: we think LS is scum LS: i am not scum geript visited me on N1 and i got a PM from Palmar that he is wandering wraith i am pope. people: okay okay okay, what are your scumreads? LS: i think Damdred is scum people: [discussing if LS claim makes sense or not and what is the best course of action] people: okay LS, who are your other scumreads besides Damdred? LS: I think Damdred is mafai i am not mafia i am pope and i swear you will be sorry if you lynch me because i got a PM from Palmar and i did not even understand it at first and i am not mafia and Damdred is mafia for meta i know this you need to lynch Damdred and not me. Like there is a fucking clear direction on how he approaches things without reading almost nothing in the thread... Here, not so much.... | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:27 GlowingBear wrote: You don't think cool TL is Mafia, Rayn? I do, i also do think LS would bus in that situation. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:33 GlowingBear wrote: I think rsoultin and cool TL name are Mafia I have a lot of problems with Tina. yeah. on the same page. add LS to that. It would actually explain why he doesn't mention you, doesn't want to tie himself up on supporting your lynch in case rsoultin gets lynched while defending her (yes, i can totally see LS thinking like this as mafia). | ||
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1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia.. ![]() 3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:40 GlowingBear wrote: Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote") I think that happened after the counter-claim, no? | ||
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4) calls me out for "knowing Damdred will fakeclaim" -> when it's fucking obvious what Damdred meant when he was softing his counter-claim. Like really fucking obvious, at least if you have IQ more than... idk.. something. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:44 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't see it if it happened. Why did she vote scott then? because we voted for scott after Damdred cc'd. | ||
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Damdred makes this set of posts: On October 01 2015 06:49 Damdred wrote: Everyone shut up and lynch scott On October 01 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote: I suck maybe I should,be lynched. No I don't believe Scott's claim at all On October 01 2015 06:53 Damdred wrote: I'm dead tonight anyway because how I framed things unless there's a medic because I'm not,thinking past my pain meds. Scott has to be dubbing here as I don't believe him. On October 01 2015 06:55 Damdred wrote: Well I'm dead with no mafia to show for,it just kill Scott tommorow ...it doesn't make much brain cells to figure out what this means. Even if you are not as quick as i am you should probably figure it out ~10h after the deadline when you read the thread, especially if you are a sc2mafia player who has been solely focused on roles and claims. mmm.. no, instead he calls me scum for figuring this shit out instantly.. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote: gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD well she is. after all that me/you stuff on her the push on gb is really fucking suspicious. you should probably read my post about it. | ||
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On October 01 2015 20:11 sicklucker wrote: random thought but is it just me or is someone on pain meds/drugs everygame we play. Like I tottaly believe him but it just seems so common here lol. anyway random thought non game related. I mean i been on something like that too last game. ![]() yes, or drunk. especially when me/gb play. | ||
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On October 01 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote: i think some of the trouble is having people attacking me most of the day yesterday made it hard to get good reads and i've been thrown off a bit, but still... this is jsut a straight out lie. | ||
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On October 01 2015 20:46 rsoultin wrote: ^ these aren't reasons? like these are reasons to think marv is town and probably correct but they don't justify the way you've been pushing at me, do they? you've been acting like i'm lock scum when this isn't even your read, according to you that's not what you asked though? | ||
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What stuck out to me was this (why i think you are scum - MY CASE, regardless of marv's); 1) your read change on marv doesn't make logically any sense (in fact this is realted to his case aswell). When you started arguing about his case, i also scumread you for; 2) your arguments were terrible, and didn't address anything he said, you just yelled "omgus omgus". When i presented my case (1), you could not reasonable explain yourself, in fact you didn't explain anything at all, which makes (3). Later on you scumread (or "scumread" i don't even fucking know what the read is besides "itchy") me for "not interacting with me, when you have had ZERO interest in trying to interact with me, while i DO have a reason to not interact with you, as i have explained. The only point where you have interacted with me before that, was when you 100% incorrectly "figured out Damdred's post is factually correct". Bullshit. Then you whine about you not having a read on me when you don't even try to get a read on me how you, as per your own words, read me best; by interacting with me. That would be (4). (5) your push on GlowingBear is scummy as explained before. (6) you twist things into looking like something they are not, you are not being clear and you don't even try to be clear. (7) you don't have any scumreads (until you are being lynched). | ||
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On October 01 2015 21:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: lol rsoul, I abstained explaining this to coolTLname because I thought it was fairly obvious but if you can't see this, then there's a clear problem here. When rayn + marv started questioning you about your disconnect in reads on marv, I purposely talked about other stuff and stayed out of the thread because I was interested to see how you would react to the pressure. I picked up on it and was going to question you but marv barged into the thread so I decided to let him take over. yeah like it was really easy to see what you were doing. but please do not do it again, it's dumb. | ||
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On October 01 2015 21:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: Would we really have gotten two 1 shot trackers though? I don't care about that. I care about the fact that if he is fakeclaiming here he has to be mafia with coolTLname, right? Okay let's assume this is true. He fakeclaims and scott gets lynched. What happens next? If Damdred does not die during the night he is very very likely to be mafia. coolTLname will most likely die on D2 anyways (like everyone realizes this)... Instead of bussing he decides to make himself look like shit when he is townread by basically everyone in the game.. why? It doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On October 01 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote: i'll double-check that as well...i'll admit this is impressions and i haven't verified it yet, i just don't remember you being the main force behind it what have you actually read in this game because you don't seem to remember anything? | ||
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30 posts / minute, around 2seconds / post. Are you sure you are reading the thread? I mean like reading, not "reading". | ||
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On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote: Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Except everything i said was true, what he said is not true. ![]() he didn't even manage to read the posts he answered. | ||
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maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction. I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you: i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. Here is a post where scott claimed: On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote: I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway. I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey. I'm hard claiming. Here is the votecount at that time: On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Recall List rsoultin (2): Trfel, GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname Trfel (2): coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy raynpelikoneet (1): Rels (0): marvellosity (0): MoosyDoosy (0): scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, Not listing (1): The Shining Now you can go back and look at your sentence again. Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you. You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3. thank you for your time. | ||
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That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes. | ||
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On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote: This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show. Actually you are right here.. hmm.. I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum. | ||
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On October 02 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote: Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine. Yeah it makes sense. Like does he just look at the flip and assume we just decided "scott is not tracker but lying" without anything else happening or what? | ||
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- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care - rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care - stuff happens - marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring - rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me) - rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before - things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell. | ||
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On October 02 2015 05:14 The Shining wrote: Lol its rayn and this is a game, you've got to learn to take things with a grain of salt. And I didn't really views your willingness to get lynched as this but more as demotivated scum giving up. You only came back to attempt to vote Scott with the rest of us last minute, even though it didn't count. If you wanted to get lynched, you wouldn't have tried to get on that wagon but would have truly just afkd EoD. The worst thing in that post is that he acts like a cocky bastard towards me when everything he says is completely untrue. Then when i give back what i think people doing that deserve, he goes crying into a corner because "rayn is mean". I am not unreasonable towards reasonable people. | ||
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On October 02 2015 05:17 Rels wrote: maybe but it's not really true that she doesn't have reads, she have strong townreads that she stated several times who gives a fuck about townreads if you can't produce even ONE scumread? | ||
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Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting? | ||
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On October 02 2015 05:23 The Shining wrote: Which game was that? I'd like to compare. Sorry I just now realized you guys are actually responding to my catch up posts lol http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly D1 end. GB and Moosy's top townreads are only viable lynch candidates. GB claims doctor. I have been pushing Moosy's top townread all game. He asks ME "fuck rayn, what do we do"???? Like isn't it obvious what do we do in my opinion. D2 start. i counter-claim GB. Moosydoosy is "convinced that neither of the claims is mafia". That is his first impression, when the claimed doctor did not even die during the night. D3 start. rayn dies. Moosydoosy starts yelling "lol rayn townread me", when in fact i had scumread him ALL GAME, and made a post where i stated "okay let's assume you are town for the rest of the night phase, jsut so i can have a reasonable conversation with you". | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16 starts from ~half of that page (N1). coolnamedude is mafia. rsoultin is mafia. LighntningStrike is mafia in that order of confidence. MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town. I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=131#2604 ..and what happened after that should be a no-brainer. I don't care to argue with rsoultin about this; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=126#2519 i hope you read it with keeping in your mind what ACTUALLY happened in the game at those times. My case on LS is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=125#2481 you have to read some posts (maybe ~2 pages) prior to this post to understand what i am talking about. If you remember nothing else about this game after deadline, remember this post. | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:19 Trfel wrote: You mean the part where I accidentally fell asleep and missed EOD? ![]() I mean the part where you argue with rsoultin. | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:25 sicklucker wrote: I dont spam the thread at night like you morons asking people with 1 vote to claim (lol LS). in 5 minutes the game is on If you don't understand the difference between spamming and discussing reads you truly should not post during the night. You are the only one who has spammed in this thread during the night phase. | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:29 sicklucker wrote: hummm...? how does her alignment confirm his They are not mafia together and rsoultin is mafia. | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote: really not surprised that rayn is pushing me eh. you always get my alignment wrong This is actually incorrect because i just literally said i am not pushing you.. | ||
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I didn't say that either. I did say that you are showing some characteristics that i have seen in your scumgame. I didn't say they make you mafia here, in this game, because i have not confirmed that myself yet. Which is also why i did not call you mafia. I called you possibly mafia due to process of elimination, and given that i am wrong on one / more of my scumreads. I can't understand why easy things are so fucking hard to understand for certain people. Like does anyone else think it is not clear what my thoughts on Moosydoosy are? | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: Well, how would i know you used process of elimination to come to the conclusion I'm scum lol? On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16 starts from ~half of that page (N1). coolnamedude is mafia. rsoultin is mafia. LighntningStrike is mafia in that order of confidence. MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town. I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia. BECAUSE I LITERALLY FUCKING SAID IT RIGHT HERE!!½!!!! | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote: Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false. kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote: this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3 no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that. Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways... So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days. Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: no. i'm taking a nap ^^ and i'm doing a reread tomorrow night as i said before. i have more important things than mafia to do, but as i was doing things in my limited time, yes, i posted it yeah, apparently you have had more important things to do for the past three days while whining you cant get a read on me and saying you will re-read me. While producing 25 pages of nonsense. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: like im pretty sure cooltl is always the best vote here. Theres scenarios where mafia did some sick plays to keep him alive (like we lynched a claim powerole it kind of takes mafia voting him to do that... Oh that and hes the most obv scum.liar ever. It could also clear rsoutlin who I cant read because she has no reads just many words Are you scum? It doesn't clear rsoultin in any way. Or why does it, in your opinion? | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote: ... i just posted a reads post and he says i have no reads meh your reads are not reads. and you call my evidence "completely subjective". Like i can't even express what i would want to write here. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:18 sicklucker wrote: lol cool spewed rsoul town so hard you not reading his posts? classic tmi no. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: your reads are not reads. and you call my evidence "completely subjective". Like i can't even express what i would want to write here. I have a townread on Damdred and marv. The rest of my "reads" i have to re-evaluate when i am gonna do my re-read." We sure do know what your re-evaluation looks like right? Like you can do a full 180 or even a 720 if you feel like it, for no fucking reason. So by default, you managed to produce TWO reads on 10 people. And again, this is after having posted 25 pages of filter. | ||
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On October 02 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit. maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction. I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you: Here is a post where scott claimed: Here is the votecount at that time: Now you can go back and look at your sentence again. Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you. You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3. thank you for your time. On October 02 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched. coolTLname i am waiting for your answer to this. Not because it would change anything, just because i think this is hilarious. ![]() Almost as hilarious as asking that one dude what his read on himself is. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:32 coolTLname wrote: and im still waiting on your answer to literally lying 7 times because u forgot *cough* didn't read the thread. Everyone can remember the 7 votes being on me until scott claimed tracker and then damdred counterclaiming so all you're doing is distracting from your own lies. scott claiming tracker had absolutely nothing to do with me being lynched, i don't even know why you're nit picking over timestamps? Whereas you just totally missed tons of information , like not knowing rsoultin was a lynch candidate when she was up for for hours, with Trfel. It looked like she would be lynched. answer why you claim there were 7 votes on you when there was in fact 3? I literally proved that. You have never proved me lying, that's why YOU are being voted for and not me. Basic logic that should be clear to like 12yr old. Again, why were you lying? | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:33 coolTLname wrote: the timestamp isnt even the same, 5:11 the votes and 5:39 where scott claimed Then go to the voting thread and prove me otherwise. I actually did that, WHICH YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOU READ MY NEXT POST AFTER THAT!!!!! | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:33 Damdred wrote: Yes he said hours ago that he was just angry and wasn't town rb i had an impression he somehow used that as calling you mafia on N1 no? | ||
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On October 02 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: In the above post i took HtS' vote count from :11 and matched the votes up until :39, when scott claimed. That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:36 coolTLname wrote: im gonna ignore rayn, i clearly had 7 votes and was going to be lynched day 1 until the scott/damdred claim / cc. straight out lie. please stop posting, you are mafia. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote: -sighs- he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch HAHAHAHAHAH! that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:41 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn, don't you wonder why Marv got killed instread of you? not really, no. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:46 rsoultin wrote: ...that doesn't appear to be what he's arguing? he appears to be arguing that he was fine with being lynched over me when he originally got the 7 votes but was happy to vote for scott after damdred cc'd...what are you pushing him for exactly? read the thread. | ||
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On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote: i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now. This is what i was arguing about, HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!? | ||
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mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time? somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina. | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:53 coolTLname wrote: can you stop with the insults and yelling and cursing ? all that type of behavior does is benefit mafia can you stop lying and answer why you think 3 = 7? | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:55 rsoultin wrote: this isn't why i was townreading cool and i haven't been townreading him for quite some time? like i get that you're saying TINA YOU'RE MISSING POSTS IN A 130 PAGE GAME but you know so are you. and so is everyone nor can i remember everything that everyone has ever said just like everyone else in this game can't remember everything i just don't like to see people screaming at each other over misunderstandings. clearly i was wrong. carry on First of all his behavior or how he comes to conclusion on hi "reads" haven't changed since the beginning of the game. Second, ofc people are missing stuff. Somehow you just miss ALL the stuff i am writing (while telling you can't have a read on me)...... third, also somehow... somehowsomehow, you pick some irrelevant posts and make dumb conclusions about them without investigating into the matter further BEFORE you make the dumb conclusion (or argument -- like here, like with your comment on Damdred early on. If you actually read what i was talking about there, you would see that Damdred's comment was in fact 100% factually INCORRECT [i]when you DON'T take it out of context, but instead see the context where is was posted in[/]i). So yeah, i guess my suspicions of you are "totally unfounded". rofl. | ||
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On October 02 2015 08:00 rsoultin wrote: the tmi thing is really pretty strong. i don't know why he's so certain i'm town because he doesn't want to lynch a scumbuddy.- | ||
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On October 02 2015 08:06 rsoultin wrote: this sort of thing is going to make me stop talking to you again I don't care. In my mind that is at least as reasonable reason to assume is true than any other considering his competance in this game. So i don't even know what you are talking about here in the first place. My comment was purely sarcastic because you cannot literally make anything out of his read on you. Except he is scum, because he claims "biggest filter = town" but "people who post alot are mafia". | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote: I'm still iffy on cool cause apart from the hard defend I can see most of his play coming from newbie town quite easily. pffff............... | ||
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On October 02 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote: Meh, not after his explained read progression. I thought I caught a slip but him explaining it makes slightly more sense. It's just alarming to me that Moosy is on my radar and I still think LS could flip scum and they both voted coolTL. There is absolutely no way they're all scum together. mm well rsoultin is mafia so... | ||
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On October 02 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote: Same question, because you're pretty adamant about your RSo read. You've echoed and made a lot of points I agree with, outside of RSo, so you're in my town pile, and I can see your train of thought on RSo to the point I'm considering revisiting my read on her so Are you considering pushing RSo over lynching cool? no. | ||
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On October 02 2015 08:53 The Shining wrote: Mysterious post is mysterious. So you think LS just said fuck it and went for the cool bus D1? Because if he did, he had an excuse for missing EoD which means unless he was lurking and lied about the excuse, he had no way of knowing Scott was going to get CCd and lynched and left his vote on his scummate. that is not the only explanation. i can explain it further tomorrow, rn i am too tired to actually go and look at any posts for people because if i do not quote mafia is going to shit on me and then i ahve to, again, argue about shit that should be obvious. but LS would bus in that situation, taking account certain circumstances. | ||
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On October 02 2015 09:18 coolTLname wrote: i think at least 2/3 mafia members are accusing me , keep that in mind for the rest of this day. How about you explain how 7 = 3? | ||
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On October 02 2015 09:38 coolTLname wrote: and rayn was accusing me for voting scott, which i find to be really forced. I think shining hopped onto that as well, you guys said he was obviously town but just take a look into that as well how is 7 = 3 true? | ||
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The truth is i can prove every single statement you have said about me to be either: 1) a lie 2) you not reading the thread properly. both of which you consider to be ultimate scum traits. I already did that once. I have repeatedly asked you how you are going to prove me otherwise. You have failed to do that. However, if you do that, or explain, how you were dumb enough to make an incorrect statement like that, i will move to the next point. And ask you the same thing. So, in case you for some reason are town in this game i would ask you to take me very fucking seriously, because i guarantee you you will get lynched here over anyone else with interactions like you have provided. That would be a bad thing, regardless of my affiliation, now wouldn't it? If you are scum i don't really care what you do. | ||
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You claimed you were at 7 votes when scott claimed. I said you were at 3 (or 4 if we take account scott's vote - doesn't really make a difference because i assume people post before vote). you said "rayn is lying". You still say "rayn is lying". Prove i am lying, or explain this some other way. | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:01 coolTLname wrote: You've yet to answer my several accusations so why should i humor your one? You're just very upset and looking for any reason to attack me, which is very offputting for me and everyone else in this game. So stop. I have answered your accusations by saying you are straight out lying or not reading the thread. If you are town you want to explain these things to townies who believe me (who you think is mafia) over you (who is supposed to be town). I am giving you a chance to explain those things. With really simple questions that cannot be misunderstood. So are you willing to provide reasoning on why i was lying in that case and you were not? | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:03 coolTLname wrote: And i've already answered anyway, ridiculous. no, you literally haven't. | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:06 coolTLname wrote: I already have and anyone else can see that in my filter, so bye. bye | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:07 coolTLname wrote: If you want to accuse me , try doing it with logic and not just empty yelling and cursing. You must be some kind of a weird individual when you are saying things like this. | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:14 coolTLname wrote: All i did was accuse you with arguments stating you were mafia. It's not my fault if u take it personally. Im playing the game whereas you're just screaming. And still are. actually no, i am trying to argue with you about your reasoning, which you are not willing to do. that makes in fact YOU "screaming". especially considering i am not scumread, you are. | ||
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I can prove that too, ![]() | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:19 coolTLname wrote: Anyway this is a waste of time. one piece of advice for you is don't take this online behavior to real life. you don't know who has nothing to lose. so you don't want to argue about why you are lying? check. i'll just leave the rest of the post untouched because i consider it a personal attack towards me. | ||
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Also when i do said things they are not suspicious." | ||
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Probably won't be posting much today. I got my evidence already. | ||
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On October 02 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote: I get that he's lied, but I don't see any motivation for him to do this as mafia. He simply misread/misunderstood something. There is no reason at all why he is more likely to do this as mafia than as town. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I don't think so? post like this make you look super weird tbh.... like do you just ignore the fact i tried to make him contribute onto said things further? and he responds basically with threatening my life or some fucking thing like that? | ||
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On October 02 2015 11:00 Trfel wrote: No, I don't like that, but unfortunately I think that town players are sometimes stupid enough to play like that. I've seen it way too many times. I wasn't referring to the post-lie argument, I was referring to the argument over the vote count itself and the nature of whether coolTLname's initial claim had mafia motivation. well i am referring to the fact he himself considers: 1) lying 2) not reading the thread as an absolute scumtell. He is clearly doing both. | ||
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You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this. So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him? | ||
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On October 02 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoul, I don't think you can be suspicious of rayn due to meta reads here. considering this is coming from a person who has scumread me all D1 this seems like a weird statement. | ||
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but oh i did. at least enough to get warned for it. | ||
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On October 02 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: well no flames in terms of scum hunting. even if you were yelling at people in general. incorrect.i was just sure i found mafia in J Roc and the game was shit so i didn't care. unless marv started posting for real. | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:04 coolTLname wrote: yeah i have to admit i reported him like twice now lol well this is going to be really funny if an action is take n on this. because i believe you made an indirect threat on my life, which i did consider not serious. maybe i should as it seems like you are serious after all... let's see what kinda shitfest we can get out of this. | ||
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On October 02 2015 14:07 coolTLname wrote: it was just advice bro. it was actually sincere advice, believe it or not. im stressed due to my personal life, and anger triggers anger towards my parents and myself , so forth. i sympathize with you as we are kind of the same, although i admit i did want u modkilled ![]() fine, let's not ignore the fact you are mafia. at least you are not going to convince me you are not in this game ergardless of what you do. period. | ||
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On October 02 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote: ye okay lol nite an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game yeah we can talk all you want. it doesn't change the fact you still have zero scumreads and still don't have a read on me. | ||
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On October 02 2015 14:17 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- you're right. i'm not giving out reads before i do my analysis, which you already know refer to my how rsoul plays mafia post ^^ not going to just rattle off "reads" because the almighty rayn demands them ![]() besides which, my opinions are in thread sure enough. i'll get to making them so clear an infant couldn't mistake it after i review things yes and instead of "revisiting things" as you call it you continue to post something completely different. Not to even remind you have been "reviewing the things" - especially regarding me - for the past 72 hours. | ||
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You also have been here for the past 7,5 hours ALL THE TIME, not counting ~2 hours inbetween there, that would, in my opinion give you a good 5,5 hours to actually do this "review". But, i guess i can't expect you to do it because making 30 posts about something you cannot be even sure about (because you are unsure about the events in the game as per your OWN words) is fair then..... yes rsoultin, that sounds very fucking convenient to me. | ||
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On October 02 2015 14:33 rsoultin wrote: did you miss the part where i'm still doing schoolwork? I didn't. As i said this just doesn't look like doing schoolwork. It doesn't look like playing mafia, as town, either. It doesn't look like anything because again, you aren't doing anything that can be considered productive. now is sleep time. it's already too late. | ||
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On October 02 2015 19:24 GlowingBear wrote: And Rayn, Marv dying instead of you heavily implies you were on the wrong track. You do need to take a step back. No it really doesn't. | ||
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First i give you some examples; A while ago i tried to convince a town to lynch someone because they said "this guy is scum because he is pocketing rayn, but i don't think rayn is necessarily town". You might remember the game... I don't actually think anyone in the game really got my reasoning for why it was obvious the guy was mafia, while it was like "i have this pie here. i am eating it with my spoon. If i have taken away the spoon from the table, it's impossible that guy ate the pie with a spoon. If he claims so afterwards, he is a liar." Really obvious? Mmmm.. apparently it wasn't. Some year(s) ago i made a case on a guy who did the following; First they called someone out on p20. Then afk. Then i asked for their case. They said: "Here is my case [reasoning from page 30-40]". It is obvious that the dude is mafia because it's literally impossible he has thought someone is scum on p20 if his case doesn't have a simple scummy thing on that guy before p20. Seems like a simple thing? Mmm.. guess what, i had to argue for about 20 pages why it is obvious, hell MAFIA ARGUED FOR ME (yes, his scumbuddies) why it is obvious that guy is mafia. I had to draw a fucking mspaint picture to clarify why it is impossible the dude is NOT lying because apparently my words are somehow unclear... Now let's go to this game, i have a couple of examples. The first one, maybe easier to understand is this: rayn: TLname the votes piled up on you because scott claimed TLname: no, i had 7 votes before scott claimed rayn: [here is proof why you are lying] rayn: explain TLname: ...... ..... TLname: i had 7 votes before scott / damdred / cc rayn: it does not work like that, explain why you are lying rsoultin: On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote: -sighs- he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch the thing here is that [u]was not the original argument. I consider rsoultin one of the smartest people in this game. If one of the smartest people fails to realize / doesn't even care what i write / (or twists things around which i believe is the case here -- and noone even calls her out for it) in the first place, how am i supposed to think other people do? Another one: J Roc: rayn bussed sicklucker here rayn: i don't unnecessary bus and everyone knows it, this would be an unnecessary bus, so you are just straight out lying Trfel: but rayn you bus Damdred: yeah you bussed there in the game Trfel pointed out. rayn: what the fuck is this bullshit Damdred, you were in the game?!?!? rsoultin: Damdred is factually correct. In fact Damdred is NOT factually correct here. Even if he believes i unnecessary bussed there, that is not the point. The point is the I DON'T BELIEVE IT and i have clearly expressed it in many occasions. The question becomes to; "rayn himself thinks he doesn't unnecessary bus. would this interaction with sl here be an unnecessary bus in his opinion? If yes, then J Roc's "case" is invalid. If no, then rayn could be mafia for what J Roc says". And that was the point of the argument, not if anyone else than me does/doesn't think if i unnecessary bussed in some other game. I can understand someone having a different view from the XXX game, but saying "Damdred's argument is factually correct" is just bullshit, because it doesn't have anything to with the original argument. It brings me to this: If i get shot here the following will happen. My reads are proven to be legit, as in a sense that i actually believe in what i am saying (as in i am confirmed not mafia). When this happens, me, and everyone knows marv WILL actually go read what i wrote about people and will evaluate if he thinks i was right or not. He definitely did not do that during N1, so actually NOONE knows where he stood by the end of the night phase. Marv is way more persuasive than i am. It is a fact, just because apparently my writing skills are the poorest on this site and often times i have to yell my lynches through -- which makes people ignore me. Marv also understands me. Therefore, if marv dies - regardless of if i am right or not - mafia has a person (rayn) alive, who is way more easier to ignore/discredit/what the fuck ever people are always doing than marv is. 100%. And that is the reason why marv dying does not make me "wrong" like you suggest here GB. If i am 100% right on my reads and they are good, marv will read them in case i die, and it is 100% more likely he actually believes me than any other person in the game and actually gets those people lynched.[/i] | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:14 rsoultin wrote: how so? maybe you didn't notice, but when you were enjoining gb to vote for me when he switched to cool, i was already leading the votes with 4 votes. the next person was 3 Hmm maybe you didn't notice but when MARV wanted you lynched, you were getting lynched. | ||
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and now again when you want cool to be lynched he is going to be lynched no, everyone wants cool to be lynched already. I don't have to do anything about it. and for the record marv is not even alive so your argument is factually incorrect. | ||
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saying i was the main reason you were getting lynched is just straight out bullshit. | ||
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Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim? | ||
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I don't see how this is townie at all. Just because Moosy's post is 100% right. Like should we not call scummy things scummy or what do you suggest? | ||
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I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that. | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote: eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying yeah obviously, when rayn tries to be reasonable let's take all the things he has said and call it an "approach" but when someone else does the same thing "give him some room". And then people call this townie. You are good at saying what people want to hear, i admit that. | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote: at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind this is just a straight out lie. | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote: his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there I don't understand, can you elaborate further? | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:51 sicklucker wrote: rstoul i just read your posts. and I learned nothing about your reads on this game. they are absolutely filler. Like you are the filler posting champion. Like you are the god OHHH SOMEONE GETS IT! <3 | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote: at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind MoosyDoosy i'd like your opinion on this post. | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:59 rsoultin wrote: ??? like maybe he's still suspicious i guess so "clearly townreading" was overstating it, but it doesn't look very much like he's pushing me, does it? trfel by contrast is one of the only ones in his n1 filter who was he pushing on N1? This is where he ends up on Trfel: On October 02 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote: i didn't. i guess i'm going mad. oh well. "He didn't read me mafia because he wasn't pushing me". So who was he pushing then? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote: do you see him pushing anyone after that retraction, rayn? no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?! ridiculous. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:06 sicklucker wrote: FUck i forget all that I wrote it was so good. Basically rsou/rels/shining are way more likely to be mafia because of how they voted scott. While the people who voted coolt are more likely to be town. not just because coolt is mafia but because he is never a town powerole the way he gave up. Like marv gave mafia the perfect reason to lynch a powerole (we have to assume mafia knows scott is really a powerole when he claims since hes not on there team) Marv gave them the perfect excuse to vote scott too. unless the mafia was afk they always snap vote scott here. Also I think its less likely a mafia would be afk at a deadline. I think the mafia team is probably coolt/rsou + one of shining/rels. It can still be trefel but I feel hes not trying at all. I don't think you have read the EoD1 quite closely.... | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote: no i think that given his posting he at least thinks there's a fair chance i could be town. given the posts above. you did read them? yes i did read them. no, that's a ridiculous conclusion. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote: i was there dude... the scott lynch was super bad your biased because you helped lead it. Like mafia had to have voted for him why was it bad? Damdred conter-claimed him. scott was (not counting the claim) scummy as fuck. Like why does mafia "have to have voted for him"? I don't understand what you are saying. Noone was gonna lynch scott after he claimed -> Damdred cc. | ||
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At least get your facts straight, or if you are talking about something else marv did, please feel free to elaborate. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:17 sicklucker wrote: maybe its meta but the only reason dandred should have suspected scott was because he claimed 1 shot tracker which he did in the game before. Dandred thinking there cant be 2 cop type roles is super bullshit because anyone competetant knows open setups are usually random and any 2 town roles are possible thats why its called an open setup. I am confused, are you saying Damdred is mafia? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:19 sicklucker wrote: How was he getting lynched anyways? I didnt want to vote for scott. you can kill him later if you still think hes mafia and maybe get some information. Because when there is a claim and a counter-claim, in most of the occasions people lynch one of the claims (assuming at least one of them is scummy regardless of the claim). The thread sentiment supports this, in this game. Again, if you are mafia, scott claims and Damdred counter-claims, why do you need to vote for either of them? Townies will do that anyways about 100% of the time regardless of who the other lynch targets are. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote: anyway the point is dandred ccing in an OPEN SETUP does not make scott mafia lol. it was so dumb going back, im submitting it for a wtf moment for sure ofc it doesn't. but it negates the fact that "scott is town BECAUSE of his claim". It really does. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:24 sicklucker wrote: agreed i did vote him in the end after a really hard decision. but it had nothing to do with dandreds silly cc THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING! you seem to be arguing we should not have lynched scott because he claimed tracker, but at the same time you are arguing his claim does not make him anything and he was scummy so we should have lynched him?!?!!?!? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote: But the point im making is rstou/rels/shining voted scott because of dandreds cc which makes no sense. I did vote for scott aswell because of Damdred's CC. So did marv. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote: But the point im making is rstou/rels/shining voted scott because of dandreds cc which makes no sense. oh wait, are you saying they did not vote for him before? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:29 Rels wrote: wow sicklucker what you are saying is bullshit scott was a main candidate for lynch the whole day. The one reason he wasn't a lynch candidate anymore was his claim Damdred counter claiming nullified the town credit from scott's claim => he was a main candidate again I also think it's bullshit you can say "mafia definitely vote for scott", because as soon as scott had enough vote to be lynched, mafia would shut up and let scott's lynch happen, while not taking part of it did you vote for scott and when? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: no sicklucker is town. He gets the line ups that I saw earlier. ofc sl is town. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:29 sicklucker wrote: yes I know and thats scum points for you. but you were pushing him regardless all the cc did was push him over the top for you. He did not seems to be so high on the others radar. . yeah i know what you mean rn and it's actually a really good point. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:30 Rels wrote: I voted for scott after Damdred' counter claim. JRoc was a lynch candidate since the lie about you busing though What made you think scott is scum enough to vote for over your original lynch target (before claims -> after claims)? | ||
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i know rsoulting did GB -> scott shining??? rels??? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: We still have to shoot coolTL or we're shooting ourselves in the foot lol. Like he is either bad town or Mafia which places in a policy lynch either way. I don't usually agree with policy lynches but in this case you are 100% right. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:44 Rels wrote: it doesn't "kinda makes sense" he factually said that (he actually said 95% town) why did you agree with him? | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't usually agree with policy lynches but in this case you are 100% right. And for the record i don't think this is a policy lynch, i genuinely think the guy is scummy as fuck, but i get your point, and if you think so, i totally agree with you. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:47 Rels wrote: no you shouldn't lynch him if you think he's a bad town yes we should. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:48 sicklucker wrote: I had to take a nice shower to cool off. I said i would not get super involved and spammy like i used to. don't worry you are doing a good job. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:52 Rels wrote: I agree with that I was saying that if you KNOW he is a bad town, you shouldn't lynch him what the fuck is this argument. he clearly does not know if cool is mafia or bad town. | ||
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Person X: "i think A is mafia" Person Y: "but if you think B is MORE mafia you should lynch him instead" | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:57 Rels wrote: I just don't like this auto lynch situation we have marv is still correct D1, mafia probably wouldn't bus this early confirmed wrong by default unless you think i am mafia or rsoultin is mafia (and rsoultin would not even be bussing here). | ||
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I mean like... fuck... People who voted for coolTLname or what? someone else too? | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:05 Rels wrote: it means what it means ? I think everybody except rsoultin was OK lynching coolTLname. That's why marv made this comment on coolTLname being the "default lynch" It in fact makes marv's comment invalid and gives an opportunity to mafia, if coolTLname is mafia, to defend him -> go onto another lynch, like scott. On October 02 2015 23:08 Rels wrote: rayn why did you switch to scott after Damdred's claim ? Why did this CC invalidated scott's claim about being 1 shot tracker ? I find this out to be a stupid question because i have already explained it. | ||
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Because it buys me town credit and well, we are still not lynching mafia (until later on, which everyone who is scum in this game knows -- that coolname is gonna get lynched at some point assumining he is scum). | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:13 Rels wrote: Of course but marv comment was BEFORE Damdred's cc well did you switch your vote before damdred's cc? | ||
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- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary) - yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70 - you are, logically, voting for coolname - scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20 - marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30. - Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70. Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch? I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote: since he's not a newbie, his two questions at the beginning are dumbtells it is 99% proven he is newbie to TL mafia. i don't know why you want to claim otherwise. | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:24 Rels wrote: because he said something like "GB you are known for not reading the thread" yesterday who the fuck cares. he has played a game before. do you think he smurfed back then in a newbie game then now came back and smurfed again? | ||
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the why are you arguing he is a smurf? | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: someone reading games but not posting or playing mmm and you think this is possible given how he approached the game early on? | ||
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On October 02 2015 23:46 rsoultin wrote: And trfel is currently my top suspect ![]() I am really really waiting for this case because i do not see a world where there is, for ANYONE, any better reasons to think anyone is mafia than coolname. | ||
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On October 02 2015 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this; You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this. So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him? | ||
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But that's not relevant. | ||
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I don't know how he does it but he does. If i knew, he obviously could not be able to do it. And when i am scum i literally just don't care. At all. | ||
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On October 03 2015 04:16 Rels wrote: (that doesn't interest anyone else but I would really like to know the "reason" for your switch) And that doesn't really matter anything because i was obviously "right" since geript was not mafia. You will not learn anything about it and i can't make myself find it because i don't remember anything about that game, except for when i read the game before i replaced in my scumreads were genuinely you and geript. So even that part was not a lie.. ![]() | ||
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On October 03 2015 07:19 LightningStrike wrote: It was mainly rayn's attitude towards me it was exactly the same he treated me in my last game and I couldn't be assed to play there after Day 2 even though I caught you Day 1 of that game. Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled. bullshit. | ||
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"LightningStrike could you read the thread before you post because... you know that's how this game is played?" "Every time I tried to talk to Rayn I felt like I hitting a brickwall voer and over and just gave up trying to talk since he so tunneled." BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT"! | ||
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On October 03 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote: YOU TREATED ME THE SAME FUCKING WAY YOU DID WHEN I DIDN'T READ THE FUCKING OP RIGHT IN OUR LAST GAME AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BE SCUM FOR THE SAME FUCKING THING I DID AS TOWN? JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE BAD THEN LEARN TO READ THE FUCKING OP OF THE GAME YOU ARE PLAYING! | ||
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What the fucking fuck. Why am i even trying? | ||
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true story. i can take shit from people when it is at least semi-arguably legit. This, no. Fucking no. | ||
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- LS hasn't read the thread - rayn asks him to read the thread before posting because it is actually required to read the thread so you can post legitmate thoughts - LS continues to not read the thread - rayn calls him mafia - LS says "it's rayn's attitude towards me which made me not play the game" Mmmm... right. | ||
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On October 03 2015 08:27 rsoultin wrote: anywho, i'll be in-thread if anyone's in the mood to not auto-pilot this shit, but i'll be busy so don't expect more than sporadic responses till i'm done ![]() well who would expect anything else from you anyways. this has been your mantra for the past three days. | ||
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On October 03 2015 08:34 Damdred wrote: Why are you so sure gb isn't scum Because he isn't annoying, mostly. Also he has some good points. | ||
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On October 03 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: Ummm that's not right though gb himself would tell you that he is hyper adhd and jumps around like he's on crack as town. And good points can come from either side. That's actually not correct. | ||
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People who think he is scum have the responsibility to prove he is mafia. | ||
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On October 03 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote: No that's not how this work you can say I'm,not correct without proviking information why. Unless your scum of course No Damdred, that's literally how it works. Make a case and then we can discuss it. | ||
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I say "no he is not". It is literally your responsibility to prove he is mafia, because if you don't do that, then he is probably not mafia. It's my responsibility to prove three other people are mafia. My responsibility is NOT to prove GlowingBear is not mafia, at least until you have a case on the table. I am not wasting time on things i don't find important. I think we are lynching scum atm, and that's what is important to me. Noone has presented any other case. I don't care to do that now, before the lynch, because apparently some other people can't give a shit to play the game at all, so i don't jsut care right now. I have better things to do. If someone cares, enough, to make a case on someone else than coolTLname, feel free to do it. Then i can discuss it and care more. | ||
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On October 03 2015 08:51 Damdred wrote: No rayn you are being willfully obtuse when a town read is asking you why they are wrong what is your,motivation keeping relevant information from me. I can present the information on N2 aswell as here and right now i just don't care. | ||
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I am just genuinely disinterested in the game right now because of certain people's unwillingness to play, and on top of that those same people throw shit at me. I would like if some other people made cases and put effort to the game aswell otherwise than yelling "tone tone". And i am not talking about all of the people in this game. | ||
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On October 03 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote: okay, rayn, talk about reads time try to keep the bm down please your main issue with cool is he said he had 7 votes on him before scott claimed...is there anything else? i've read his filter, and apart from him claiming to have completely read the thread but still getting that detail wrong, i'm not really seeing whatever it is y'all are seeing in his play that has you guys thinking he's lock scum point me to what i'm missing without demanding that i read your filter? you're on the list but i'm multi-tasking and i'd appreciate your cooperation My case is very simple: On October 02 2015 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this; You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this. So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him? For someone who praises that people who: 1) lie 2) do not read the thread are mafia, the accusation i provide here is pretty damning. I am not going to quote basically every single post in filter from the first 72 hours of the game. If you want to ask about some of them / all of them, do that. Right now i have had zero questions about this (this is including coolTLname himself....). I hope people do not ask stupid questions if they do, and if they do, i assume - as always - that they have read the thread. | ||
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1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread. 2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw pretty clear shit. 3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him oh but he did. | ||
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On October 03 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote: i just read his filter rayn @.@ from top to bottom quote it or let it go He says he wanted to get lynced. That's what he said. Later on he says he didn't want to get lynched over scott (who was the opposing wagon) because he suspected scott. But he never suspected scott. In fact he suspected ME the most, and i was pushing scott's lynch ALL D1. So i find it really hard to believe what he is saying. | ||
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On October 03 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote: please don't call me an idiot. when you're not explicit with what you're saying, rayn, it can be misunderstood and it looks like that's what happened. why would he zero in on that as scum knowing what you meant, either? scum's not going to say the sky is red and expect people to believe them lol >< Ge read the conversation where the post is taken from. If you have read the conversation, you have no doubts what i am talking about. The post is just taken out of context for no reason. | ||
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On October 03 2015 09:51 rsoultin wrote: no i do understand what you were talking about? but i don't see why scum does that, is the point, rayn. even if he is scum, he still probably misunderstood Well he himself claims "mafia are people who don't read the thread". | ||
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But when EVERY SINGLE THING HE SAYS is a "mistake", that's too much. | ||
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Am i supposed to believe he is town when - again - every single thing he says about me during those 72 hours is either lie or him not reading the thread properly? Like this isn't so hard Tina, why are you making this so hard? | ||
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On October 03 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote: mostly because this isn't really the case...he was talking about other things both d1 and n1, rayn. you have to realize that you're emotionally invested in this read and you focus on tiny things, while i am not and i tend to focus on the big picture. both have their place I don't care if he was talking about other things, that's not what i am arguing about. I am arguing about his top scumread -- me. | ||
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On October 03 2015 10:52 coolTLname wrote: Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims. Has asked to prove even a a single one. Doesn't. Meanwhile... On October 03 2015 09:09 coolTLname wrote: ## vote glowing bear ![]() good night frands | ||
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On October 03 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote: scummy rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist) I would like you to explain how you come to this conclusion when your top townread thinks pretty much the exact same thing? | ||
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And The Shining seems to show a distinct lack of knowledge for LightningStrike's play, and since they've played several games together I'm pretty sure, I don't think that The Shining's early scumread on LightningStrike is very believable. Can you explain this further? | ||
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On October 03 2015 18:31 Trfel wrote: The Shining seems to assume that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet would read GlowingBear the same way, that doesn't seem reasonable. Even from reading a little bit of this game, it should become clear that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet have different styles, which would lead to different methods of how to read people. where does he say that? | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:52 The Shining wrote: I guess you're right but I'll still read when i can. I need to look at marvs and rayns filter for Rso becuz i had her as town originally. I appreciate the recap but idk what the actual case was so yeah. tbh i super heavily dislike this post. | ||
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Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it. | ||
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Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town. | ||
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On October 03 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote: solve the game with alcohol sounds like a plan! | ||
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On October 03 2015 19:35 rsoultin wrote: -yawns- morning lol >< @rayn...rels did this thing he did, where he talks about cool for half-decent reasons d1 but mostly focuses on truffle's reads, then kinda afks his vote on cool. and you're wrong that he and damdred have the same read. yes, some aspects are similar, but the gb comment in particular about reading the thread simply doesn't exist. additionally, of all the things to read cool scum for it's the most ridiculous? i've got plenty of reasons to townread damdy independent of his "cool isn't new" assertion. it's not like i said damdy is town for pushing that and rels isn't No you didn't say that but if a "sure townie" (Damdred) can make that sort of read why is that a scumtell for Rels? Like you just said "a townie can do this" and then you accuse someone of being mafia because they did it. And it's pretty similar, given the times those posts are made and at what state the game was back then. | ||
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On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote: but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all This doesn't bother you with Shining at all? | ||
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On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote: no he really kind of wasn't he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol Let's assume this is true for a moment. Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good". Because i can't think of a reason, except for one... | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:05 rsoultin wrote: lol you were too busy tunneling me d1 to notice that i completely thought people jumping on my wagon could be scum. i even pushed rels for it then, after which he backed off, defaulted to cool and pissed off so eh and i was pushing you for it because you kept saying you wanted to push me cause marv was "sure" when he'd said maybe i could be town and stopped pushing prior to obviously i thought scum was taking advantage, or very likely to? and i didn't like rels just dropping his scumread on truffle to sheep marv while saying truffle and i couldn't be scum together it was meh to me. don't you remember this at all? xP I am not talking about what you were thinking on D1. I am talking about the present. | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote: @.@ you were saying present tense. present tense he hasn't shown a large interest in lynching me right after marv's case he dropped his read on trfel and sheeped you guys even though he'd been hard pushing trfel. trfel hadn't addressed his points at the time, and he believed that trfel and i couldn't be scum when he did it Again i am starting to see red. You literally jsut said Rels was not interested in lynching you (while hopping on the wagon with me and marv). Because you said he then was willing to give you more room to explain -> not really interested in lynching you, as per your words. You don't think i am mafia, marv is flipped town. Again; If you do not think mafia hopped on your wagon (because regardless of if Rels is mafia or not he didn't really hop on your wagon and push your lynch as YOU SAID), why is that? Why can't you understand simple questions? | ||
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On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote: but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote: DUDE he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to! like how the fuck do you not understand this?! So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing. Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch? | ||
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I care about: Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch? Why do you have to dance around the question instead of jsut fucking answering it? | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote: rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room. why does he do that as mafia? | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote: he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me you're still saying the sky is green and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you? I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this: So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room. So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more. Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not. | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us" I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2. | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: it's not just "i think trfel is town" it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us" yes this would make sense if you had never scumread Trfel but that's not the case here. | ||
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On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote: -squints at- so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^ Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies... You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago. Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town). So, another scumpoint to you. | ||
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On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote: you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further... | ||
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- You didn't give any fucks about coolTLname when you imo should have. I am speaking of N1 here, you even went on defending him with factually incorrect argument. (see what i did there?) It's scummy. - The way you "look into people further" is scummy. You are under pressure, marv says GB might be mafia -> suddenly there is a case (and a vote) on GB from you while you didn't care about the things you found him scummy for earlier, at all. sl brings up the voting behavior and I start discussing it with him on D2. Rels and Shining are under questioning for that -> suddenly you come up with "now i am looking into Rels/Shining" and you come to a conclusion that Rels looks really bad and shining is town, you don't even touch this voting behavior thing at all... Hmm no, actually that is not scummy, that is super scummy. - You do voting analysis; you miss the most easily notable thing to you. That is scummy. That was your N1 -> D2. I think you are mafia. | ||
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On October 03 2015 21:25 rsoultin wrote: like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway The reverse isn't true in any way, because you (mafia) and coolTLname (mafia) suddenly ended up on GlowingBear (town). | ||
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On October 03 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: okay here's my problem like, i'm down to moosy and trfel and moosy/gb/rels are almost never ever going to be scum with cool...sicklucker seems rather unlikely as well given even though he didn't push as much on cool as the other three, the only one left is truffle and he did push hard on him basically, to believe in a cool = mafia world, you have to believe that he's being bussed since d1 @.@ or that his two scummates for whatever reason decided to attack each other in the middle of the day phase it's just not very likely, is it? idk, care to explain what for example this post is if not voting analysis? | ||
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On October 03 2015 21:49 rsoultin wrote: mm maybe, but that still doesn't explain why i didn't vote for trfel, does it? huh.. because you hard townread him, so you literally can't. | ||
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On October 04 2015 00:30 Rels wrote: No. In this question, the scummy parts is that he is misrepresenting why I'm scumreading him + the fact that he ignored my questions several times is the scummy part I also think he's scum because - his push on GB was done on super bad reasonning - he claimed to have been the one first voting and first pushing cool while it was me and GB; GB that he was pushing at the time - he associated with shining and based his push d1 on cool on a shining post; while answering questions, he kept bringing up that shining and him were the push creator on coolTLname isn't this all explained with the last thing? or like associated with it? | ||
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On October 04 2015 00:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm back from my SAT 2 tests. Jesus christ the math was a stick in the butt. I think I did well on my Literature test though. If anyone cares, my ankle is getting better and I can walk although running and tilting the ankle hurts. Will read and catch up. I can help you with math. 7 = 3 | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:23 coolTLname wrote: then he could have easily just said this instead of just flaming me for 4 hours, town would explain, mafia would derail I am sorry i don't explain stuff to people who cannot read the thread and who at the same time claim people who don't read the thread are mafia. See? | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:31 rsoultin wrote: ls is town though so this doesn't matter -_- | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:33 coolTLname wrote: Rayn what will u think of rsoultin when i flip town? Also if i flip town, mafia could possibly make a case against you Your flip will change nothing about how i view rsoultin. Yes they could, i'll let them try. | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: idk what dick move analysis is. plz explain further tbh. Basically i don't think LS would ever yell me like that as mafia. If he did he is a dick, but i don't think he can be that much of a dick so i have to trust he is town. that's dick move analysis. noone is above it, except for Blazinghand. | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:37 Trfel wrote: I'm not getting the impression that people have actually read The Shining's filter. I think he is scum. i also think cool is scum. | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:43 rsoultin wrote: i think you should put this in my sig when i flip town lol and this time you can't blame me for being bad, either ^^ mmm so your reads are really good then? i don't even know why you call people mafia except for Rels and cool (which i explained to you in the first place). | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:57 coolTLname wrote: I have been, for you i dont need to, bc ppl can just read your filter without context because you just analysis ed a bunch of people without pushing them, changing reads instead. Like ur the opposite of rayn which is also bad. Rayn is a necessary evil but unfortunately hes wrong this time. no you really haven't. | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:02 coolTLname wrote: Burst of anger at beginning, Counterclaim shady, Being present in thread yet not contributing anything especially day 2 His counterclaim is shady only if you are mafia. 100%. | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote: except he didnt get powershot, possibly of 2 trackers , GB claiming roleblocker then backing off (idk what this means actually ) Yes and u seem to think im mafia 100% so why arent u pushing damdred like a motherfucking train? Because in my world Damdred is not mafia anyways. But in your world, like you probably assume you are town right? scott was town. Why does Damdred claim when you two are the only possible lynches? Town is gonna get lynched anyways. For you there should be 0% reason to think Damdred is mafia jsut because you are supposed to know your own alignment. Not to even mention this is straight up "role interaction" where you are supposed to be "good at" because sc2mafia is nothing but THIS. | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:18 Damdred wrote: Don't talk about the power shot until tommorow at earliest we don't need to teach mafia what to do. If I have to explain then I have to but its not good. You don't have to explain anything, you are town. | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:47 The Shining wrote: Probably the shittiest 20 or so pages I've had to read in this game. If you think I'm scum, just lynch me so you can keep cool around as the biggest question mark that avoided two lynches and lose the game tomorrow. While you're at it, you can explain how scum Shining has been trying to bus scum cool since D1, since you have him as scum, rayn and Rels. Makes a lot of fucking sense. You too, Moosy. I should be looked into if cool is scum? When I've been trying to bury him for softing me as scum D2 and then never doing anything about it? And Damdred is right, I begin to start looking at Trfels filter and starting to hash things out with RSo regarding her suspicion of him and he comes back with this huge case based on meta and what he thinks I should be doing with my time. I don't even want to waste my time with a little over an hour before EoD so I'll only cover some of the bigger points. Then you can ask me w.e you want. wtf? noone is lynching you. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote: Can we switch to GB? He says we are hitting a townie votes for that person and fucks off that doesn't make him mafia. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:34 Damdred wrote: Why doesn't it make him mafia? He clearly thinks tlcool is town, said we are hitting a townie but votes him anyway instead of pushing anyone else? There's no point to that as town he can never get anyone else lynched. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:34 The Shining wrote: I'm actually not opposed to this. The only reason I towned him was his tunneling you early and even then I was iffy on it. GB also decided I'm scum, too, without any reasoning behind it. He didn't even say he was sleeping Trfel. And after d1 EoD, he said cool was auto lynch today. Then backs off of it. Then goes back to it. Then votes me. Then votes cool, calling him town, and fucks off. That looks bad as fuck. ofc you are not because you are mafia. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:36 coolTLname wrote: well i learned after having it be used on me like a million times like where? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:37 coolTLname wrote: the rsoultin case where everyone is like U THINK SHES TOWN CUZ UR MAFIA WITH TMI U EVEN CHECKED HER GAMES BEFORE blah blah blah can you quote your post from your filter where you ask what tmi is? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote: Ok rayns just derailing this now. Folloe.me to GB, he literally said tee are hitting a townie but votes him anyway. There's no reason for GB to say this and still vote him he could of voted anywhere. Lets go what the fuck are you doing? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote: Yup you're so right rayn. Your tunnel on RSo was bad and now you're starting on me. While voting my #1 scum that you'd have to believe I'm bussing if you think I'm mafia, since d1. Riiiggghhttt. oh it's funny you tell that to me NOW. How was it bad? I am waiting for your answer on N2. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:51 GlowingBear wrote: I WILL FUCKING KICK DEAD PUPPIES +1 | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: i am back but what d o we do? we are murdering rsoultin, switrch your vote quick! she claiemd mafia. | ||
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I will meet the activity requirements. I am done playing with dumbasses. I have better things to do. | ||
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2 MoosyDoosy 3 GlowingBear 4 Rels 5 sicklucker 6 The Shining give me a second. | ||
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We are going to lost the game because the-one-whose-name-we-don't-mention is going to vote wrong. | ||
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On October 05 2015 21:17 rsoultin wrote: at least he's not just rnging bah -_- lol | ||
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On October 05 2015 21:31 rsoultin wrote: also i really need you to fully explain your gb reasoning, because i think shining and gb are opposite alignments for sure just as i think you and md are opposite alignments for sure @.@ gotcha. now you actually scumslipped. | ||
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On October 05 2015 21:43 Rels wrote: WTF there is one mafia in GB / Shining, I can see that Why the fuck would there be one on GB / Rels ? And more importantly, why would there be one in Shining / MD ? Their mutual reads on each other makes a lot of sense as partners doesn't even matter sl should be confirmed mafia to her. | ||
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On October 05 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. In id nulla non orci bibendum ultrices. Integer egestas magna vitae nibh aliquam pretium. Ut id pellentesque libero, a egestas est. Pellentesque gravida orci sit amet arcu volutpat, vel luctus arcu sollicitudin. Duis malesuada suscipit tellus vel ornare. Sed sit amet nulla neque. Praesent sollicitudin, mi id dignissim elementum, felis sapien commodo dolor, et tristique sem leo ut sem. Mauris enim urna, hendrerit sit amet dui dignissim, rsoultin consectetur nisi. Aliquam tristique lorem nec dui ornare mollis. Quisque ut ultricies lacus. In sed aliquet lectus. In aliquam elit in leo aliquam, et facilisis dui feugiat. Sed commodo ac arcu eu sagittis. Donec in eros metus. Nulla posuere dictum sodales. Etiam nec velit sit amet erat mollis dignissim a et tellus. Nulla suscipit, neque eu euismod consequat, ex metus faucibus nunc, quis posuere nunc ante vel ex. Maecenas tristique ex nec gravida ullamcorper. Aenean convallis sapien porta eros pharetra congue ac a ex. Duis luctus neque non mauris venenatis eleifend. Nullam lorem ipsum, maximus ut felis quis, congue ultrices justo. Sed sit amet nunc a enim laoreet finibus. Nulla vel maximus ipsum. Fusce eget nibh elit. Suspendisse pellentesque tempor rhoncus. Fusce cursus ipsum vitae felis suscipit, vitae mattis enim faucibus. Morbi nec facilisis nulla, iaculis posuere nibh. Nam mattis, augue a euismod porttitor, lorem felis imperdiet velit, ac tincidunt tortor urna ac lorem. Nam congue ex sit amet nulla ultrices, in pulvinar mi condimentum. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae; Cras rhoncus bibendum ante eu placerat. In neque ipsum, aliquet non dapibus molestie, iaculis a elit. Cras blandit shining dui, id finibus nunc pellentesque sed. Ut lacinia est sit amet nulla posuere, non congue est cursus. Phasellus ultricies eget odio at suscipit. Vivamus blandit mauris in quam faucibus, eu efficitur dui congue. Proin hendrerit suscipit enim, sed condimentum elit tincidunt sed. Proin id mollis libero. Suspendisse vitae vehicula sapien. Morbi cursus, dolor et euismod ullamcorper, mauris tellus porta risus, et aliquet ipsum quam in neque. Mauris iaculis sodales diam in imperdiet. Vestibulum ultricies iaculis ex vel porttitor. Donec aliquam lectus id lectus dictum ullamcorper. Duis euismod lacus ligula, sit amet vehicula nisi placerat a. Sed cursus maximus sem nec hendrerit. Duis rutrum placerat porttitor. Sed varius massa et ornare feugiat. Phasellus efficitur tempus ipsum sed auctor. Aenean hendrerit erat velit, in elementum sapien malesuada a. Phasellus elementum lacus quis blandit euismod. Nunc id blandit neque. Curabitur ut purus id ligula porttitor hendrerit. Ut nec arcu elementum, interdum leo non, porta odio. Ut at ligula diam. Donec sit amet vestibulum ex. Nullam tincidunt velit non pharetra aliquam. Mauris fringilla turpis ut gravida eleifend. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Praesent dapibus erat ac ligula gravida, sed pretium ipsum finibus. Quisque consequat purus fringilla, elementum nibh vitae, lacinia odio. Aliquam molestie ante at ligula auctor commodo. In tincidunt efficitur auctor. Nunc eget odio nec mi finibus feugiat. Phasellus ullamcorper ac augue quis pellentesque. Maecenas moosy luctus diam, sit amet commodo augue. Morbi tempus ornare ipsum, sit amet consequat nisl interdum et. Integer egestas ex at enim eleifend, ut tincidunt sem vehicula. Etiam mollis nulla eget odio tincidunt pharetra. Aliquam at congue eros, vitae venenatis eros. Donec non leo non arcu placerat consectetur. Curabitur dictum facilisis magna ac dictum. Vestibulum iaculis varius tempor. Vestibulum tristique mi vel est aliquet, vitae ornare enim lacinia. Nam maximus a nunc id gravida. Cras cursus dolor vitae quam porta accumsan. Nunc viverra auctor odio. - blazinghand ezgameezalyfe | ||
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##vote rsoultin IF YOU ARE TOWN GET YOUR VOTE THERE ASAP!!! I will expain later when i have time. | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote: actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum? let's just vote sicklucker lol oh you realized how you scumslipped. ![]() | ||
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rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town. rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap. | ||
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well if you want to throw the game fine. my vote is not moving. | ||
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It's that you are derping all game long in the same manner where the other explanation is just that you are mafia because the derping tends to happen in situations where your team is under attack.. | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote: What I'm saying is: rsoultin could be mafia. But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia. ls is not mafia, sl is not mafia. | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let's see; You had literally said your strongest townreads are Damdred and marvellosity. That, by default means marv has done some things you consider to be extremely town, otherwise you are just plain out lying. Now, marv does not post anything after that post (where you call him town) before you call him your #2 mafia read. Some examples: "LS didn't do anything to make my opinion on him change" "sl did some things that make him less likely to be mafia (not town to be exact), so it apparently overrides my #2 townread in towniness" "this null read on cool also overrides my #2 townread in towniness". yeah there was nothing townie moosy did, that also overrides #2 townread in towniness. Like, unless you are just straight out throwing out conclusions out of your head without even thinking about anything for one second, you are just straight out lying. When you townread someone for any reason, the townread does just not vanish. If it did because "other people looked more town", well there is nothing you just said that suggests you are telling the truth. On October 01 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin. Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear". None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz..... yeah it makes sense. On October 01 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not trying to be an idiot towards you Tina. But the way you present your arguments is scummy as fuck. You don't actually take any kind of a stance on my argument against you. You call marv's argument "omgus" when it clearly is not, it has been pointed out for like 10 times in this thread. You give defenses like "i would never do this as mafia because...." which i do not believe are true, because i KNOW you have acted otherwise in games. You misrepresent things, like cooliodude's argument one me, if you were town it should be really easyfor you to see what i was saying at the time i did it, just because i managed to mistype one word does not make it scummy like you seem to think it does. You are not looking for mafia, rn you are looking for someone to lynch,. and if you were town you would try to convince me to lynch scott who is btw 100% mafia (with you). There is no reason you should be thinking he is town (as you don't) and if you are town there is no reason why you should NOT try to lynch him. You are both mafia. If you are not mafia, then pfff.... You have fucked up this game totally, because you are not even trying to figure out who is mafia (no you haven't, all game). You have not tried to lynch mafia (no you haven't, all game). That is a fact. GlowingBear is not mafia. If i am wrong on this shit you can call me bad how much you want to but i am not gonna call myself bad if you somehow happen to flip town. And now it's too late. On October 01 2015 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Basically i don't think marv's case on you does make you 100% scum. But i do know that when marv is so confident in his argument he is 100% town, and when he is town AND that confident he is probably right, even if i do not see it. I hadn't read your posts properly before that, for the reasons you i have outlined earlier. When i saw the case i did go back and read your posts. What stuck out to me was this (why i think you are scum - MY CASE, regardless of marv's); 1) your read change on marv doesn't make logically any sense (in fact this is realted to his case aswell). When you started arguing about his case, i also scumread you for; 2) your arguments were terrible, and didn't address anything he said, you just yelled "omgus omgus". When i presented my case (1), you could not reasonable explain yourself, in fact you didn't explain anything at all, which makes (3). Later on you scumread (or "scumread" i don't even fucking know what the read is besides "itchy") me for "not interacting with me, when you have had ZERO interest in trying to interact with me, while i DO have a reason to not interact with you, as i have explained. The only point where you have interacted with me before that, was when you 100% incorrectly "figured out Damdred's post is factually correct". Bullshit. Then you whine about you not having a read on me when you don't even try to get a read on me how you, as per your own words, read me best; by interacting with me. That would be (4). (5) your push on GlowingBear is scummy as explained before. (6) you twist things into looking like something they are not, you are not being clear and you don't even try to be clear. (7) you don't have any scumreads (until you are being lynched). On October 02 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: who gives a fuck about townreads if you can't produce even ONE scumread? On October 02 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: not to even mention... in over 20 pages of filter. Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting? On October 02 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that. Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways... So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days. Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game. On October 02 2015 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah, apparently you have had more important things to do for the past three days while whining you cant get a read on me and saying you will re-read me. While producing 25 pages of nonsense. On October 02 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time? somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina. On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you. Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim? On October 02 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: no, and somehow you think HE TOWNREADS YOU AS HE DIDN'T PUSH YOU ON N1?!?!?!?! ridiculous. On October 02 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes i did read them. no, that's a ridiculous conclusion. On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means: - your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary) - yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70 - you are, logically, voting for coolname - scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20 - marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30. - Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70. Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch? I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. On October 03 2015 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like there is a push on rsoultin from me/marv. Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it. On October 03 2015 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: The way he dismisses the cases on rsoultin is also yuck... On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's assume this is true for a moment. Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good". Because i can't think of a reason, except for one... On October 03 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this: So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room. So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more. Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not. On October 03 2015 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies... You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago. Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town). So, another scumpoint to you. On October 03 2015 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: So from what i have gathered from N1 and D2 (partly from D1 aswell) from you rsoultin is this: - You didn't give any fucks about coolTLname when you imo should have. I am speaking of N1 here, you even went on defending him with factually incorrect argument. (see what i did there?) It's scummy. - The way you "look into people further" is scummy. You are under pressure, marv says GB might be mafia -> suddenly there is a case (and a vote) on GB from you while you didn't care about the things you found him scummy for earlier, at all. sl brings up the voting behavior and I start discussing it with him on D2. Rels and Shining are under questioning for that -> suddenly you come up with "now i am looking into Rels/Shining" and you come to a conclusion that Rels looks really bad and shining is town, you don't even touch this voting behavior thing at all... Hmm no, actually that is not scummy, that is super scummy. - You do voting analysis; you miss the most easily notable thing to you. That is scummy. That was your N1 -> D2. I think you are mafia. On October 05 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: c'mon rels you are smarter than this. rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town. rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap. 1) Marv's case / my case on her. 2) When there are those cases on her, she decides GB is mafia for reasons he was not mafia before. Also the timing where the case comes. 3) Her read on coolTLname and "incapability" to see the scummy things on him (coolname's read on me throughout the game). Instead she thinks Trfel is scum. Never makes the case. 4) Her read on Trfel. She should have thought Trfel is town 100% by voting analysis. 5) Her read on shining. sicklucker pointed out how Rels/Shining voting history on D1 is fishy. rels explains this reasonably, shining doesn't explain it at all. She is interested in discussing Rels for this, not Shining. 6) Based on above, both of marv / Trfel (nk'd townies) put shining onto the scumpile (at that time noone else really did). Doesn't consider this as a reason to even investigate shining more. 7) Her read on Rels. Damdred the top townie did the same thing rels did, still it's a reason to scumread Rels (logicvally it isn't). 8) Her D3. Bullshit. TLDR; - not paying attention to important things that actually make sense (see for example read on GB D1, read on me, Trfel...) - her read on me throughout the game is terrible, she should have townread me on D1 100% if she was town (see marv here - noone can actually read me except for marv, people should trust marv's read on me, and rsoultin should 100% know this) - other reads are bad, and the reasoning is fishy (gb, rels, trfel) - didn't have any real reads until N2 (srsly, she didn't) - not interested in discussing shining when she 100% should idk if i forgot some reasoning in my TLDR, but mafia mafia mafia!! | ||
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"rayn is itchy, i have to reread him". "i don't care about stuff that is clear" [or rather, where i (or anyone else) points that out] "i am doing schoolwork so no reading rn" "i am doing [whatever else] so no reading rn" "i am gonna reread [someone] soon" I can maybe gather like 50 posts like this. | ||
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On October 05 2015 23:29 rsoultin wrote: you're hurting my feelings i know it doesn't mean anything now but post-game...you're really hurting my feelings right now well i am sorry if you are town but i don't respond well to TMI. I also asked you, really politely, on N1 (or D2 don't remember exactly) to actually read and try to understand before you post. You continued to do the same you did before. so, however hard that might feel, it doesn't really mean anything to me after the game either in case you are town. I have literally just made up my mind already, because in my opinion i have seen enough. | ||
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All the three of you totally failed and decided it's better to throw shit and TMI on me. I find that disgusting, unless you are mafia ofc. | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:03 MoosyDoosy wrote: any objections or no? yes | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: There is absolutely no need to when we have scum in GB/Shining. yes there is. | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: oh. well I didn't mean to be a dick. i am the town roleblocker. actions | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting. explain | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting. so you thought you were right on GB (=mafia) after N1 but ended up on coolTLname? | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:54 Rels wrote: What makes you say that ? Will check by myself the GB's claim rescind while you answer GB claims "his role" on N1. He is pretty involved in N1. Moosy scumreads GB on N1. sicklucker points out inconsistancies. GB rescinds.his claim. Moosy goes all way to "happily ever after" and doesn't care. There is no way he misses GB's claim/unclaim like he claims. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: obviously scum will. but just lynch me first. we were already very productive and know that shining/gb/sicklucker is mafia. sicklucker may be wrong and you might have to look into others but there's your scum team. there is no "lynch me first". Why do you even say so? | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote: ? And here the attack comes. I never said Trfel was blue. I said that the only reason behind the Trfel NK > rayn was that they were blue hunting. duh I am sorry but this literally means you think he was blue, or at least had a chance of being blue. Otherwise you would not say this. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:13 Rels wrote: So rsoultin reacted the the claim by immediately removing moosy from her lynch list ... Just have to wait for sicklucker s reaction now and the game is over rsoultin is not mafia or the game is invalid. ls is not mafia or the game is invalid. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote: Hmm You never admitted to being bad in our last game :o | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: I don't feel like bashing a fellow person who does not care about the game. oh but i do care about the game. in case it hasn't been obvious. | ||
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rsoultin (Shadow: NocturneMage) town MoosyDoosy scum GlowingBear town LightningStrike town Rels town sicklucker scum The Shining scum | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote: shining/gb. mmm...the last one is a toss-up. there should not be one for you. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: can everyone jsut post a list who they think is mafia? please. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:50 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I'm here. Rels - town Rayn - maybe town Rsoultin - I'm not sure, maybe town Moosy - maybs Mafia Shining - maybs Mafia LS - Mafia Am I forgetting someone? you sure are | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:51 GlowingBear wrote: Oh I forgot sicklucker. I'm not sure... I mean, if I take survivability literally, he is Mafia. But a lot of posts of his stroke me as town. So I'm uncertain.9 update your list please. not "if's". Only town/mafia | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote: Wait, when did you flip your read on rsoultin? on page X | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:01 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn, why is truffle dead? scum shot him. | ||
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Does TMI stand for too much information? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:04 sicklucker wrote: didnt you verbally attack someone for not knowing what tmi is earlier in the game? lol rayn yes. i have played ~150 games of mafia and i couldn't understand how someone who has played a total of 0,25 games could know that. | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote: like i get what you're saying, rayn, i do, but at the same time what does moosy gain as scum for not "thinking" rels is scum? it just doesn't make much sense either way idk, he is dumb enough o hard bus on D1 for no reason so i don't expect much logic from him if he is scum. | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote: Oh so you ARE here. Nightkills point out to Rayn being scum Rayn admittedly said Marv could read him well Marv is dead Truffle was the only one with the guts to cast suspicions on Rayn Truffle is dead Rayn is alive Others are dead this post is the most illogical post in the game. die you fuck. | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: you think gb starts a second wagon on shining, even as a supposed "reaction test" when we're auto-lynching cool? if they're scum together, i mean? there was never going to be another lynch than cool, who cares what whoever starts. | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:44 GlowingBear wrote: You want to lynch me because I called you Mafia? Hahaha Oh my god Rayn, you have to stop being emotional. What are you listening to now? Avenged Sevenfold? yes, i am callign you mafia because you call me mafia for shit reasons. go back to listen to your Jamiroquai and try to get laid. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: We have a 1-shot tracker, 1-shot roleblocker, and a townblocker to balance out the Detective. Mafia has the Strongshot and most likely Framer/Godfather to balance it out. liar. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1? | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote: neither claimed it so theres a mafia one. lol @ 3 roleblockers in a 3 player game with a cop and a watcher this is not a mishmash where every player has a role theres some vts like me But moosydoosy jsut said there is not. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:24 sicklucker wrote: I feel like a mafia would not go theres no mafai roleblocker when that mafia roleblocker i already confirmed in the game well town would definitely not go. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:24 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn, talk to me. I'm not Mafia. You lost your privilege to be listened to again. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote: its one of those too stupid to be mafia spots to me i know. but trust me he is not too dumb to be scum. he is just scum. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:29 sicklucker wrote: some qeustions. 1 do you think moosy/gb are trying to push thread sentiment toa 4 roles is possible scenerio + Show Spoiler + 2. do you think its possible the mafia team is rels/gb/moosy and they are doing some next level strategy where they cc each other so we lynch outside of the claims No i don't think Rels is mafia. I think Shining is the third mafia. | ||
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I think Rels is making sense regarding the claim. I am never going to believe EITHER MD or GB believes there is 2 town roleblockers. That is just ridiculously stupid. | ||
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On October 06 2015 21:24 Rels wrote: fuck you stupid moron. There is a very good reason I didn't claim at the beginning of the day. That's also the reason I know for sure he's fake claiming. And I waited before ccing to see yours and sicklucker's reactions to Moosy's claim. You remarked that I didn't react to GB's claim; but when I show: - Moosy was in the thread, talking to GB when he claimed - Moosy wasn't scumreading GB at EON - Moosy knew GB rescinded 1 hour after EON It all makes sense to you. You're the most frustrating person I've ever played with. I'm not sure that makes you mafia but I used all my care yesterday. See you tomorrow if I'm alive This post never ever comes from mafia. | ||
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On October 06 2015 22:39 LightningStrike wrote: I guess we can yolo MD here but if we are wrong we lose though :\ we lose if we lynch town anyways. | ||
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On October 05 2015 20:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: -yawn- Rels, you really are a dumb if you think my read progression on Shining doesn't make sense. A. I hard townread Shining. B. When literally everyone else suspects Shining, what am I supposed to do? Be like: oh I still townread him, screw reconsidering. Hello? Obviously not. That's anti-town and super scummy. I said I'd read his filter again just to make sure my townread was correct. For you to see otherwise is you trying to pull things from your butt. And don't think these analyses get you anywhere. I find it laughable you're probably busing a scummate here as well as trying to nail a mislynch down. These are all tired thoughts that have already been talked about and your posts are literally just reiterations of each other for two pages with nothing new. Here is basically why MoosyDoosy thinks Shining is mafia. What reasons are those? There are no reasons. Then he scumreads Rels here. But when Rels counter-claims him he suddenly townreads him. WHAT?!?!? | ||
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- I ask for his actions. - First GB N1. He says he didn't read where GB rescinds (N1). later on he says GB rescinded on D2, which is a lie, and he has ACTUALLY read where GB rescinds. That is a red flag. - On N2 he says he did block LS because "i think i did something good night 1 with GB because i'm pretty sure the Trfel shot was an attempt at blue hunting.". what the hell does this even mean???? also he has said "okay on D2 i thought maybe GB's fakeclaim is not alignment indicative". but it was a REASON (GB = mafia) he blocked LS on N2?????? okay i stopped there, the actions itself don't make any sense. lol | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: it's gb. he could have just been town screwing around or mafia hunting for a reaction. but the fact he dropped it quickly made it nai to me. but seeing as to how trfel died, i'm inclined to believe my roleblock on him n1 made mafia fussy. On October 06 2015 00:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Let me explain this nicely. D1 - First time as roleblocker cool. N1 - GB claims roleblocker. - Well fuck you GB. Since he was lurking and acting somewhat scummy, I’ll just roleblock him. D2 - I don’t even know what the point of this role is lol. - GB says his claim was not serious. - Okay, well maybe his claim was NAI. N2 - LS looks scummy and inactive so I’ll just roleblock him. D3 - Trfel died. - Oh, well there’s no point in killing Trfel unless they were trying to blue hunt. Which means they’re looking for me lel. Only reason they would try to blue hunt is if they’re scared of something blue did. I blocked GB N1 which might mean I did something good and GB's scum. One of the red sentences is a lie. | ||
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On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late. I also doubt I would have changed my roleblock anyway. I have no idea how to use this role and it would have been too much of a bother to PM all three hosts again. I sososo don't believe this. "I don't know how to use my role". ROFL. | ||
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On October 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote: MD said the truffle kill made him think he did something good N1...i.e. scum is role-hunting because the RB interfered with something N1 so actually believed the blue claims enough to kill truffle; he didn't say that's why he blocked LS Okay let's assume this is true. WHY IS HE VOTING WITH GLOWINGBEAR?!?!? | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:13 Rels wrote: So rsoultin reacted the the claim by immediately removing moosy from her lynch list ... Just have to wait for sicklucker s reaction now and the game is over rsoultin i think this makes perfect sense. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: Didn't Rels think Shining was Mafia too? So he should be perfectly fine with the lynch only so long as he tries to lynch me after. see here. if rels is scum with shining he is already bussing. if rels is mafai and shining is not mafia why is he counter-claiming moosy? like none of this makes sense if Rels is mafia. He would be either bussing or he could easily just lynch Shining. Instead he decides to FAKECLAIM.... It doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:05 sicklucker wrote: Hey rayn look at the roleblock targets. theres something very interesting in them that everyone missed that I just noticed ???? | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: In the only game where I cared about not making a slip was where I was actually Mafia. Except you weren't that good there. You made numerous of slips- | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:07 MoosyDoosy wrote: i already said he's town. rayn is not reading again~~ but the fact is town does not have 2 roleblcokers. Town does NEVER HAVE 2 ROLEBLOCKERS IN THIS GAME. There is zero reason for anyone to assume that. ZERO! | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:07 sicklucker wrote: guys .... Moosy claims to have rolebacked ls last night. but ls did not mentioned he was roleblocked like dandred did. That means that rels is real because he roleblocked moosy last night... GG LOL moosy is scum there are no notifications. if LS is vanilla he does not know if he was roleblocked or not. | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:39 GlowingBear wrote: This is the worst breadcrum I have ever seen LMAO False, it's actually a really good breadcrumb. | ||
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So let's say there is 1 mafia between Rels/Moosy. sicklucker & shining are never mafia together here. There is 1 mafia between them, and the fact that almost everyone is voting for Shining means sl is more likely to be scum, but that's irrelevant now. Glowingbear has to be scum. He has to be mafia here. | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:56 Rels wrote: That really makes no sense, I should be mafia from his POV. He just knows I'm blue Look at the point GlowingBear brings up here. Now he does himself assume both claims are real. Jesus christ. | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote: LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )= I'll copy what I said earlier: 1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline: Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread: He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind: So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim. 2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (= And we can add: 3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia. 4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens. This is a really fucking good post. | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote: like i get what you're saying, rayn, i do, but at the same time what does moosy gain as scum for not "thinking" rels is scum? it just doesn't make much sense either way Rels is never getting lynched here because you are the only one pushing him (at this point). | ||
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On October 07 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote: rayn old buddy old pal you're voting town i think i know this too. | ||
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On October 07 2015 05:56 rsoultin wrote: well i'm fine with either really i think shining will be easier to push though the thing here is Rels has the correct scumteam as his reads... | ||
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On October 07 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote: well a double mafia kill would be baller problem is shining could vote last minute so prob just play it safe and vote shining he definitely will if he is mafia. | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:06 Half the Sky wrote: Final Day 3 Recall List The Shining (5): GlowingBear (1): MoosyDoosy (1): LightningStrike (1): The Shining, Rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Tonight, I ban The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. The votecount is incorrect because MoosyDoosy has unvoted GlowingBear. | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:47 rsoultin wrote: lolol suck it rayn ^^ <3s rels...sorry dude i saw it but really you probably could have still won, cause no one was listening to me ![]() No he would not. As i said: We lynch Shining We lynch sicklucker. Then Moosy blocks Rels and the NK. Then we can lynch them both. There was no way for mafia to win whoever is the real roleblocker. | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:55 Trfel wrote: GlowingBear was obvious town all game ![]() I know, until he started shitposting the last phase. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:00 Rels wrote: Talking about the "angry post meta" fucking thing. I really felt we were fucked by that at some point. Like "Damdred is conf town because he's angry" and "LS is conf town because he screams at me" is bullshit meta. Nothing to do to counter that. Even I got townread by rayn because of a stupid rage post. I feel this really needs to stop for mafia to have an even chance to fight; and for this to stop, the players in question needs to improve their scumgames. Thsi is another reason why i just stopped playing mafia, except for invite games. well played man, you got me. ![]() | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Rayn, I like you very much, I remember playing voice Mafia with you and having a lot of fun I don't understand why you antagonise me so much I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town. You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:13 Trfel wrote: I do hate it when people stop playing mafia, but I understand ![]() Raynpelikoneet, Damdred, rsoultin, we've played a bunch of games together. I know that I've been quite a pain on rare occasions (okay, most of the time ![]() Looks like no more free townreads for me, though, all of the people who read me like an open book aren't playing any more. Maybe I should give some tips to a few people so I can continue to be as lazy as possible XD I ma prolly organizing/hosting/playing invite games and you are definitely in if you want to. Well played man. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote: As I said, more than winning, I like to play to have fun and I have fun doing those things because I like to see things happening. I like the debate. It just felt that you simply don't like to play with me rather than thinking I'm doing stupid things. It kinda gets me upset because I do like playing with you. Anyway, there's that. well i like winning, so there is that. ![]() If i want to have fun i go talk with people in TS/Skype or something. When i play mafia i play mafia. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:34 sicklucker wrote: i used it very well they should have listened to me sooner. they completely ignored it but i expected that or I wouldnt have used it. THE SCUM TEAM ALWAYS VOTES SCOTT IN THAT SPOT Funnily enough that was the reason i scumread Shining and probably should have scumread Relös aswell (i bought his explanation). Good job giving away BOTH of your teammates. ![]() | ||
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In hindsight Damdred should have not claimed (obviously), but it would have been better even if scott was mafia. We could still have lynched another mafia, and regardless of scott's alignment him being alive on N1 it ensures Damdred gets a check. Mafia cannot roleblock him if scott is mafia, mafia will not roleblock him is scott is town. He will definitely not get strongarmed. I don't fault him for his decision, i would have probably done the same with the time left on the day phase, but it's just something that came to me a bit later.... I really really can't understand why people do not read and/or try to process what they read in certain situations. Nobody except for marv (and Rels but that's kinda irrelevant since he was mafia) understood my argument on J Roc (mainly looking at Damdred, Trfel and rsoultin here). I found out it very frustrating when i was saying "bananas are yellow", Damdred and Trfel come in and say "oranges are orange", and then rsoultin comes to say "Damdred is factually correct"................................... ugh. Please, try to understand the meaning behind the posts and thought process before you post. And this is not just for those people but to others aswell. That was just one of many examples. I understand the argument behind shining read (that marv just pointed out -- and Trfel on D2). My problem is, like i said when the game ended, the last couple of games i have been too busy lynching stupidity. It's very hard for me to not lynch people who say the following stuff: - first read in the game, "rayn is bussing sicklucker" [screw you motherfucker, I WAS EVEN RIGHT!!] - some guy doesn't read the thread at all and makes bullshit argument for 72 hours and in the meantime claims "lynch all liars" and "people who don't read the thread are mafia"..... - some dude reads like only the last post in thread and follows the thread sentiment, then does VCA and ends up in a conclusion "this is how people voted". when you tell them to read the thread, they fucking mock you and somehow you are the reason they are not reading the thread in the first place... super terrible. - "this dude counter-claims me in lylo, so i'll swap my read on him from mafia -> town" ?!?!?!?!?!?"?!"?!#¤#%(UDSJF.................... ....over let's say shining, who was at least being reasonable with his posts. I understand this kinda stuff often comes from a townie, but at the same time, even if it does the town is gonna lose the game if those players are alive at the end of the game 100% (especially against Rels who was really really active here). I know this is a "shitty" thing to say but nowadays i end up lynching people who will lose the game for the town regardless of their alignment more than mafia, because they distract me from finding mafia. That's why i don't want to play anymore with people i consider to be in that category. J Roc left scott in a really shitty position. For me there was nothing that could ever make me re-consired the read, regardless of what scott said. I am sorry for scott, but when i decide someone is mafia, there is no more "discussing", that phase is over, then i just try to lynch that player until something really extreme happens (like claim -- well that didn't really help here... ![]() I liked the last day phase. The case/votes on GlowingBear basically solved the game (regardless of Rels/Moosy alignment). Rels you should have not claimed. I understand your reasoning but you have to think further. You didn't, obviously because you wanted to win the game there. That was a mistake because Shining was really really likely to be lynched anyways. Well played anyways. sicklucker apparently says townie stuff only when he is pointing out who his scumbuddies are. ![]() Thank you for making my game easier on D3. Yeah, idk, it's nice to leave with a win but the game was still shit. Very shit. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I really don't understand how you didn't see it earlier, though it's easy for me to say since I knew her alignment :p she did a lot of things i considered more likely to come from mafia, i pointed all of them out. But idk.. i am bad at reading her anyways. I always think she is scum. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:11 Rels wrote: Meh. He clearly unvoted to vote himself, so if the selfvote is not allowed, the unvote shouldn't count either. Of course it should. If someone is dumb enough to not see they are not allowed to vote for themselves, then it's their fault. Same as if someone is dumb enough to roleblock themselves in a delivered KP game then they are dumb enough to block their own KP. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You just get stuck a lot on what you think people should be doing, which you usually reason from what you would do in their place. There's a variety of reasons for why people do the things they do and it seems that you don't really understand how she thinks. I know i don't understand that (well actually i do now after talking with her about it). But some of the things just looked very much more likely to come from scum than town, like the GB case on D1 -> which came when she was under pressure. And it looked like this: - glowingbear does stuff - rsoultin townreads him - glowingbear continues doing same stuff - rsoultin is scumread - suddenly rsoultin scumreads gb.... i found it out to be fishy as hell. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I find that pretty understandable honestly. Things he posts later can result in having a different perspective on the things he's posted earlier. Plus it's very different reading someone's posts when you have sort of a townread on them over reading their filter when you saw something suspicious. I know. In my opinion she didn't explain this clearly enough though. I mean i also know it's mostly my fault because i was scumreading her already, but still.. | ||
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You actually had a chance after people didn't want to lynch Moosy. You should have claimed scum (not literally, but make people lynch you) and then kill Moosy. ![]() | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:36 MoosyDoosy wrote: I would appeal to emotion but for some reason, people don't believe it. Then it makes you better (in that regards) than the people who are believed. It really does. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:38 NocturneMage wrote: nice. speaking of RNG though...taking a look at the opposite extreme... interestingly enough, I'm going through the mods' google doc....rsoultin the wanderer randomly visited marvellosity the same night mafia killed him. had that tracker lived and tracked rsoultin to marv...I'm pretty sure rsoultin would have been auto-lynched. that is some shitty RNG. I am pretty sure the tracker would have been either roleblocked or killed. | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Eh, usually when people go for that they were pushed too far. The line between playing to win as hard as possible and signing up just to have fun is one that's different for everyone. At some point, people break and they'll do so in a different way depending on their alignment. I don't think you can put the blame merely at those who crack. You may play to win, but the goal (in terms of why people sign up) is to have fun. Yeah but when people crack because of "you can't read me", that's just pathetic in my opinion. | ||
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Yes i am referring to her, LS, Damdred and GB. | ||
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yeah totally. i have never seen a player so disconnected from what actually has happened in the game before... | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't speak for them as I didn't follow the game close enough for that, just experienced it from Tina's side, but like I said the reason was more in how you stressed you don't think she can be that dumb as town which is why she's mafia and not really listening to her rather than the actual mafia calling itself. in fact i was listening to her. but i talked about apples and she responded with talking about oranges. yes she really did. ![]() | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, I'm done telling her story; she can do it perfectly well herself ![]() Voice mafia this sunday? I know her story. It makes sense. I have talked with her about it already. However i didn't know her story then. That's why it didn't make sense. ![]() Voice mafia, sure. I can play today. | ||
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On October 07 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote: -plops on a damdy- ^^ i don't know why we're being blamed for being emotional anyway? i was tunneled by rayn for a very long time beforehand and managed okay @.@ ish and if damdy cannot be emotional as mafia, it's not his fault if we take his emotions as town indicators. it's not like he deliberately shows no emotion as mafia just to be read town and blaming ls at all is silly. i think you know that, rayn well i guess it's good i am quitting then i think. | ||
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On October 08 2015 00:47 Rels wrote: rayn I feel very bad that you're quitting The two towngames we played together were sooo cool and we owned scum in both I hope you'll come back soon you're hoping for something that will not happen unfortunately. but you'll get an invite if/when i host/organize a game. You play well. No bullshit, only mafia. I like it ![]() | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote: bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad my town play is not exactly good wit this portion of players. I fail to understand most of them and i come to wrong conclusions because of it. Also my win% is pretty low i guess. Regardless of what alignment i am / what i do. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit. ![]() | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote: that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> It is not the point though. I can't make myself lynch mafia or "mafia" over people who are just not playing the game. I got really stressed and angry with this game for said reasons. When i had a break and got back to here, i tried to avoid that, when (now) it's getting back to me it's not good for me and it's not good for anyone else aswell. I can't help it, i am a logic guy, when the logic prevails, i wanna lynch (or i get angry -- usually both). It's sad. I don't want that. | ||
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I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched. What am i supposed to do? | ||
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People didn't lynch mafia, instead they lynched me. It annoys me. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote: I don't know. This is a problem that won't go away because there will almost always be people in the game who do dumb stuff. Well i will solve it by not playing except for playing with people i wanna play with.. .who are not shit. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote: The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote: I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible. I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces). except for you. you are listened to, always. For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long. idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: Maybe you should stop thinking that high of yourself because although you are clearly a good player you have some awful awful reads from times to times - in a sense that a laid back Marv could see why shining was scum on day one and you simply gave him a town pass. Being logical =\= being smart, although being smart requires being logical. This is not a game just about logic. If you want to play with logic, you should try sudoku not going to answer this shit. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote: Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place. Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow. ofc this is true. but let me ask you this: how do you think i managed to lynch scum after scum early on this year? | ||
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I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play. I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure. | ||
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I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win. I fucking cracked into pieces. That is the truth. | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:54 marvellosity wrote: It was a fantastic game, it really was. I know it was. | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote: didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also. yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh... ![]() | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone! i don' t emply tone in any of my reads because that's just shit. | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:04 Rels wrote: Yeah that's true. That's why rsoultin pushed me. Didn't change the fact I was mad meh maybe i was just bad at reading all of it then. ![]() | ||
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