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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 17:10 GMT
#2601
Sigh
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 01 2015 17:43 GMT
#2602
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys gb is are roleblocker


I'm not, I was just upset and made that up


i know and i thought you were trying to take a bullit =/ poorly
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 17:52 GMT
#2603
On October 02 2015 02:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys gb is are roleblocker


I'm not, I was just upset and made that up


i know and i thought you were trying to take a bullit =/ poorly


I wasn't lol
I'm adorable.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 18:56 GMT
#2604
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 19:01 GMT
#2605
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia
I'm adorable.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:02 GMT
#2606
And i called him out for derailing the thread, not cluttering. He goes off topic a lot, for example when there is only a few hours left. I've caught him lying probably 7 times now
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:04 GMT
#2607
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread?
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:05 GMT
#2608
Furthermore he is making up false accusations based on complete lies.
## free rayn
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:06 GMT
#2609
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Except everything i said was true, what he said is not true.
he didn't even manage to read the posts he answered.
table for two on a tv tray
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:13 GMT
#2610
I bolded the lies in the nested quotes btw. Rayn states: rsoultin was never a lynch target,

Completely false, when Trfel and Rsoultin were tied at 4 a piece, rsoultin looked like she would be lynched for even more than just a few hours.

And he even says that "coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed"

Lol?

Lynch all liars, please.

And he states GB was the main lynch candidate, He actually only had 3 votes while rsoultin still had 4. He was never the primary lynch target at any point, Afterwards i was voted up, BEFORE scott claimed

## free rayn 2015
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:16 GMT
#2611
I'm trying really hard to be cool right now..
Can someone just vig that guy?
table for two on a tv tray
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
October 01 2015 19:18 GMT
#2612
You're not going to even defend yourself?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#2613
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:32 GMT
#2614
In the above post i took HtS' vote count from :11 and matched the votes up until :39, when scott claimed.
That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:36 GMT
#2615
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 19:38 GMT
#2616
Just got into work. It's looking like a slow day here so I should have a lot of time to be here. But I will be alternating between here and the League Worlds group stages matches. If you're not watching, you suck.

On October 01 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote:
Well Idk what scum motivation is if I'm scum going 1 for 1 is always town favored not scum favored. So Idk why I'm automatically scum for thinking it's highly suspicious if not unlikely that two roles exist like that


This is a good point. At first I thought it was interesting that this came from Damdred but I don't think he is scum. With the last scum game I saw him in and his lack of motivation there, I really don't think he would be confident enough to CC Scott as scum and then use this argument as a defense. It's too risky imo.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 19:43 GMT
#2617
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2015 19:46 GMT
#2618
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

Actually you are right here.. hmm..
I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.
table for two on a tv tray
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 19:48 GMT
#2619
On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him.....


Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 19:49 GMT
#2620
On October 01 2015 14:22 Trfel wrote:
I can't sleep.............

I'm willing to assume that marvellosity is town.

If rsoultin is town, I guess I'll trust her read on raynpelikoneet here. Just for simplicity. So raynpelikoneet is town, regardless of rsoultin's alignment.

There were several posts that rsoultin made where the tone strongly suggested to me that she is town. My tone reads are terrible, but combine that with some general impressions I got from a Skype chat a while back about mafia, and that she doesn't really like playing mafia, and that if she is mafia she would have been extremely frustrated by raynpelikoneet, it just seems like rsoultin is town. Except for the push on GlowingBear. That's the most significant problem I have with rsoultin at this point, I just cannot see any of the things that she says about GlowingBear. And while I didn't prove any inconsistencies in her thought process, I wasn't completely satisfied by her explanations (notably the explanation with regards to her early read on sicklucker)...

I still want to townread LightningStrike for his early posting, but excuses or no, his posting patterns did fit a mafia motivation.... He got townread by post people early on, and then his activity levels dropped off sharply. I don't like him asking to get lynched instead of rsoultin, but I'm not convinced that it is mafia indicative I suppose. I guess he's probably just town.....

I don't know about Rels. Sometimes he seems reasonable, but I feel that he lacks thread presence. Which is strange because he actually has a fairly long filter. And some of his posts I remember thinking were very unreasonable. I need to figure out why I don't feel much thread presence from him, it may just be that he's being covered up by marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, and rsoultin, or there may be a more interesting reason.

I don't really know about MoosyDoosy and sicklucker. I don't feel confident in reading either of them, their thought process differs so much from my own. I feel like sicklucker's been townread a lot for bad reasons, though... Apparently there was a sicklucker smurf game recently? I thought that the smurf was not sicklucker, though?

Quotes please.
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