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On October 01 2015 23:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I at top of page 83 and Rayn I started at Day 1 post not from the very start of the thread silly  Also I starting to actually think I;m wrong on Tina although I don't exactly have a good track record of calling her scum until later in the game. Hmmm. explain Mainly her fight with you and Rayn up to page 83 seemed well way to pointless? She had you as town untill like 1hr she took you lower on the list when nothing happened between those times so it's a weird read progression based on nothing from her part. You do have a better track record than me I think so(shrugs).
did you not pick up any of this when you were actually reading the thread originally?
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Plus at the time she was running out of targets on who to call scum so(shrugs).
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On October 01 2015 23:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:14 LightningStrike wrote:On October 01 2015 23:10 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I at top of page 83 and Rayn I started at Day 1 post not from the very start of the thread silly Also I starting to actually think I;m wrong on Tina although I don't exactly have a good track record of calling her scum until later in the game. Hmmm. explain Mainly her fight with you and Rayn up to page 83 seemed well way to pointless? She had you as town untill like 1hr she took you lower on the list when nothing happened between those times so it's a weird read progression based on nothing from her part. You do have a better track record than me I think so(shrugs). did you not pick up any of this when you were actually reading the thread originally?
I didn't pick it up originally honestly.
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On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game.
But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort.
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On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort.
no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before.
i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it.
why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now?
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But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort.
i mean if you take this to its logical conclusion, there's nothing that stops any scumplayer doing anything, other than effort.
such a dead-end line of reasoning
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On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort. no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before. i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it. why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now? I am not sure what you are talking about?
I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it.
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Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
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Rolf I had skipped this part when I was first reading to catch up lol...
On October 01 2015 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?
1) i don't care. it's not my point. 2) yes but at least that "shit" has direction that can be explained from town perspective. For example from the last game: people: we think LS is scum LS: i am not scum geript visited me on N1 and i got a PM from Palmar that he is wandering wraith i am pope. people: okay okay okay, what are your scumreads? LS: i think Damdred is scum people: [discussing if LS claim makes sense or not and what is the best course of action] people: okay LS, who are your other scumreads besides Damdred? LS: I think Damdred is mafai i am not mafia i am pope and i swear you will be sorry if you lynch me because i got a PM from Palmar and i did not even understand it at first and i am not mafia and Damdred is mafia for meta i know this you need to lynch Damdred and not me. Like there is a fucking clear direction on how he approaches things without reading almost nothing in the thread... Here, not so much....
I said James would be mafia other than Damdred get it right at least 
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Alright so I did catch up throughly. We could lynch coolTLname or Tina next Day Phase I was just to blinded by my love for her.
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On October 01 2015 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
i still need to reread some others tbh
truffle keeping the suspicion on me open and even now saying he's suspicious of me for having different reads is eh...i don't think he usually assumes same reads = same alignment but i'm not 100% on that and it seems convenient to have "doubts" about your counterwagon
i need to recheck his filter to see what he was doing that whole time apart from asking me questions Different reads doesn't mean mafia.
We had a different read. I asked you to explain why. You said reasons for him being mafia that were the exact opposite of the reasons I had (which I saw very clearly) for him being town. I said this, you didn't respond. I continued to ask different people, eventually providing at least one example, and I kept looking for any sign whatsoever of the things that were mentioned as scummy, but I kept seeing the opposite. And you and the rest of the people scumreading GlowingBear never bothered to show me your perspective.
Of course that gives me pause..... It doesn't mean you have to be mafia but it worries me.
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On October 01 2015 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Alright so I did catch up throughly. We could lynch coolTLname or Tina next Day Phase I was just to blinded by my love for her. Ok, why do you want to lynch rsoultin then?
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Anyways I going to class and I wont be home till EoN area so I if I die just lynch either on of them.
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On October 01 2015 23:46 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Alright so I did catch up throughly. We could lynch coolTLname or Tina next Day Phase I was just to blinded by my love for her. Ok, why do you want to lynch rsoultin then?
Mostly her interaction with marv an rayn from like page 80 seemed worse on her end than I first saw it honestly. She was actually running out of targets to call mafia plus at that point she was scumreading marv but just before the fight she dropped her townread on him when marv didn't post anything between that time.
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On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort. no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before. i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it. why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now? I am not sure what you are talking about? I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it.
but you were commenting on n1. In which case you have my whole body of play to look at
so your comment makes zero sense.
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i.e. why are you making comments that i might be capable of playing like that as mafia, on n1, based on a tiny selection of my posts at the start of the game?
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On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
that's not very crazy
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On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort. no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before. i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it. why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now? I am not sure what you are talking about? I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it.
I find these 2 posts together extremely suspicious indeed
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post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia
post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?
it really makes no sense at all to me
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