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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 01 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote: gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD well she is. after all that me/you stuff on her the push on gb is really fucking suspicious. you should probably read my post about it. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 01 2015 20:11 sicklucker wrote: random thought but is it just me or is someone on pain meds/drugs everygame we play. Like I tottaly believe him but it just seems so common here lol. anyway random thought non game related. I mean i been on something like that too last game.  yes, or drunk. especially when me/gb play. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i don't actually think gb is probably scum anymore lol >< despite the focus on early game things going on with truffle, etc. he was actually way more reactive on a reread of his filter than i remember him being and i think my perception of his play was just skewed regarding rayn...eh, rayn. itches, so many itches. it seems that he does read gb rather quickly, at least since he came back from his ban...which is fine i think. rayn, what was it about marv's case on me that you liked? cause tbh it really bugs me that i'm not strong townreading you...i think some of the trouble is having people attacking me most of the day yesterday made it hard to get good reads and i've been thrown off a bit, but still...asking why your gb read was like pulling teeth and you started giving me things way late to justify it and saying you'd explained yourself when you hadn't so what was it about marv's case? yeah i'm still not sure on cool and he could be mafia the ls thing i don't think is very strong. there's just not a good scum explanation for it? like it's weird, but what do you think actually happened there, rayn? i really want to talk about moosy, though. the way he approached the day phase. he seemed very much disconnected from any of the conversations actually going on, and the way he reacted to the flip he wasn't there for seemed...i dunnae very over the top plus, and shining did this, too, but i dunnae shining i think makes a bit more sense given he's been townreading me from the beginning...moosy says rsoul, see, cool has TMI that you're town...and i can't help but think well...isn't that TMI? like wouldn't people wonder if he's scum defending scum, how does he come to the TMI conclusion specifically without doing the same thing he's accusing cool of? i dunnae i'm half-awake and didn't sleep much maybe this is crazy but i want to talk about moosy cause i don't think anyone is and he skeeves me out a bit | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 01 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote: i think some of the trouble is having people attacking me most of the day yesterday made it hard to get good reads and i've been thrown off a bit, but still... this is jsut a straight out lie. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
can you please answer the question rather than poking at things that are subjective by their very nature? what about marv's case did you like, rayn? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
1) the thought process as a whole 2) the factthat if marv feels about something that strongly he is definitely town and also almost definitely right | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
it shouldn't take much time at all to go "the thing that made me think you were mafia and vote you over my previous tunnel that i never dropped was marv said yada yada and that was really fucking amazing" you should already know why you scumread me | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On October 01 2015 20:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Two things: 1) the thought process as a whole 2) the factthat if marv feels about something that strongly he is definitely town and also almost definitely right ^ these aren't reasons? like these are reasons to think marv is town and probably correct but they don't justify the way you've been pushing at me, do they? you've been acting like i'm lock scum when this isn't even your read, according to you | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 01 2015 20:46 rsoultin wrote: ^ these aren't reasons? like these are reasons to think marv is town and probably correct but they don't justify the way you've been pushing at me, do they? you've been acting like i'm lock scum when this isn't even your read, according to you that's not what you asked though? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If you ask me "why did you like marv's case on me" that != "why do you think i am mafia" or "those arent the reasons you are pushing me for". Those things are entirely different things. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On September 29 2015 19:48 marvellosity wrote: i've explained why i think rsoultin is mafia (or at least used moosy to flesh it out), so obviously i don't agree with your reasoning. did i really need to say that? :/ On September 29 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am pretty sure rsoultin is not mafia though. in fact, i asked you because when i was looking back through your filter i came on this again. i've quoted it before but the first time i didn't go to the context you actually said this in response to all the things that are part of marv's case on me, the early scumreads, except for the actual read shift so literally to you, somehow, marv's certainty using the same points you originally disagreed with, suddenly you think i'm scum because of the read shift? it's the only difference whatsoever between the point where you said you thought i was scum and this point in time here where you argued that you thought i was town that is weird, rayn especially to put this read in front of your own when i know for a fact that you disagreed with marv's original points. it's right here in the quotes | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On October 01 2015 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't like the way you are twisting arguments all the time rsoultin. If you ask me "why did you like marv's case on me" that != "why do you think i am mafia" or "those arent the reasons you are pushing me for". Those things are entirely different things. then by all means explain where you got your scumread from if it wasn't marv's case because you've been putting a lot of emphasis on the fact that it was marv and he was sure, and also a lot of emphasis on his being sure even after he'd clearly said he wasn't and i don't know if this is opportunism, missing his posts, what have you, but it appears to be a distancing thing. so why am i mafia independent of marv's read if that's not the real reason and why do you keep using his case as a crutch? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
pretend you believe i'm town cause if y'all lynch me it will be clear i am...or even don't pretend that. what impression did you get of him yesterday? i really felt like he was completely disjointed from things going on in the thread despite reading the thread, and his reaction last night independent of the arrogance there which admittedly rubs me wrong anyway, did that seem like a natural reaction to what happened to you? also he keeps claiming to have solved the game but i don't actually see anything but "i've solved it, but i need time to parse it, and i'm gonna be busy" like, what is that? you've either solved it or you haven't? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
What stuck out to me was this (why i think you are scum - MY CASE, regardless of marv's); 1) your read change on marv doesn't make logically any sense (in fact this is realted to his case aswell). When you started arguing about his case, i also scumread you for; 2) your arguments were terrible, and didn't address anything he said, you just yelled "omgus omgus". When i presented my case (1), you could not reasonable explain yourself, in fact you didn't explain anything at all, which makes (3). Later on you scumread (or "scumread" i don't even fucking know what the read is besides "itchy") me for "not interacting with me, when you have had ZERO interest in trying to interact with me, while i DO have a reason to not interact with you, as i have explained. The only point where you have interacted with me before that, was when you 100% incorrectly "figured out Damdred's post is factually correct". Bullshit. Then you whine about you not having a read on me when you don't even try to get a read on me how you, as per your own words, read me best; by interacting with me. That would be (4). (5) your push on GlowingBear is scummy as explained before. (6) you twist things into looking like something they are not, you are not being clear and you don't even try to be clear. (7) you don't have any scumreads (until you are being lynched). | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
truffle keeping the suspicion on me open and even now saying he's suspicious of me for having different reads is eh...i don't think he usually assumes same reads = same alignment but i'm not 100% on that and it seems convenient to have "doubts" about your counterwagon i need to recheck his filter to see what he was doing that whole time apart from asking me questions | ||
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