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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:18 GMT
#2481
marv think it like this:

If you are town and behind the thread you skim it. That's what LS did (in case he is town - which makes him telling the truth). Now put yourself into LS' situation here and look at the posts. The normal things people do when they skim the thread are;
1) am i under attack? do i need to defend myself? (especially from LS' point of view) - well no, okay so good.
2) who do i think is mafia, are they being voted? - well LS doesn't really think anyone is mafia, let's say "fair enough" for shits and giggles
3) i don't think anyone is mafia, who are being voted for so i can try lynch scum? - does it look like he did this?
4) why are the people being voted for are voted for, so i can make a better judgement call? - don't even start....

Every single mafia player does that, as town, because they want to lynch mafia and not get lynched. Sometimes excluding step 1. Now does it look like to you that LS did any of the steps 2-4?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:19 GMT
#2482
On October 01 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me.

Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are.


My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:23 GMT
#2483
On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me.

Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are.


My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on

I think you are focusing too much on "if LS flips mafia it does incriminate me", which it does not.
Read my latest post.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:26 GMT
#2484
On October 01 2015 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 19:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me.

Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are.


My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on

I think you are focusing too much on "if LS flips mafia it does incriminate me", which it does not.
Read my latest post.


I've read it. I've got what you mean and it makes sense. Still, I find it possible that LS can do that as town.

What I DO think is that LS coming back and caps locking asking why did we lynch scott was fabricated. I mean, people lynched scott because we had a counter claim, and solely that. It was dumb, but not 100% stupid. It seems fake.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:27 GMT
#2485
You don't think cool TL is Mafia, Rayn?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:29 GMT
#2486
On October 01 2015 19:19 GlowingBear wrote:
My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that?
(2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too?

1) i don't care. it's not my point.
2) yes but at least that "shit" has direction that can be explained from town perspective. For example from the last game:
people: we think LS is scum
LS: i am not scum geript visited me on N1 and i got a PM from Palmar that he is wandering wraith i am pope.
people: okay okay okay, what are your scumreads?
LS: i think Damdred is scum
people: [discussing if LS claim makes sense or not and what is the best course of action]
people: okay LS, who are your other scumreads besides Damdred?
LS: I think Damdred is mafai i am not mafia i am pope and i swear you will be sorry if you lynch me because i got a PM from Palmar and i did not even understand it at first and i am not mafia and Damdred is mafia for meta i know this you need to lynch Damdred and not me.

Like there is a fucking clear direction on how he approaches things without reading almost nothing in the thread...
Here, not so much....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:30 GMT
#2487
On October 01 2015 19:27 GlowingBear wrote:
You don't think cool TL is Mafia, Rayn?

I do, i also do think LS would bus in that situation.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:33 GMT
#2488
I think rsoultin and cool TL name are Mafia

I have a lot of problems with Tina.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:34 GMT
#2489
If you also think rsoultin is Mafia, do you think a team of cool/rsoultin/LS is possible?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:35 GMT
#2490
On October 01 2015 19:33 GlowingBear wrote:
I think rsoultin and cool TL name are Mafia

I have a lot of problems with Tina.

yeah. on the same page. add LS to that.
It would actually explain why he doesn't mention you, doesn't want to tie himself up on supporting your lynch in case rsoultin gets lynched while defending her (yes, i can totally see LS thinking like this as mafia).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:39 GMT
#2491
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:40 GMT
#2492
On October 01 2015 19:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:33 GlowingBear wrote:
I think rsoultin and cool TL name are Mafia

I have a lot of problems with Tina.

yeah. on the same page. add LS to that.
It would actually explain why he doesn't mention you, doesn't want to tie himself up on supporting your lynch in case rsoultin gets lynched while defending her (yes, i can totally see LS thinking like this as mafia).


It's possible.

Also, cool TL has being acting weird and rsoultin never approached him properly. When he was up for the lynch, she started discussing a lot of people without actually presenting reasons why cool TL shouldn't be the lynch. She never voted him. Then she wanted me lynched. Then she easily shifted to scott without thinking twice about the claims.

Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote")
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:42 GMT
#2493
On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


Everything he posts is fabricated. He tries to incriminate people with things that simply aren't true. He says I'm never bringing something new but I'm always developing discussion and putting my thoughts on people. I have no idea how he decided that I'm scum. It just seems he took the easy path when I was getting votes and is never letting it go
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:43 GMT
#2494
On October 01 2015 19:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote")

I think that happened after the counter-claim, no?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 10:44 GMT
#2495
On October 01 2015 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 19:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote")

I think that happened after the counter-claim, no?


I didn't see it if it happened. Why did she vote scott then?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:44 GMT
#2496
Oh yeah, on coolnamedude:
4) calls me out for "knowing Damdred will fakeclaim" -> when it's fucking obvious what Damdred meant when he was softing his counter-claim. Like really fucking obvious, at least if you have IQ more than... idk.. something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:45 GMT
#2497
On October 01 2015 19:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I didn't see it if it happened. Why did she vote scott then?

because we voted for scott after Damdred cc'd.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 01 2015 10:46 GMT
#2498
gonna be so annoyed if rsoultin is mafia xD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:48 GMT
#2499
Scott claims tracker.
Damdred makes this set of posts:
On October 01 2015 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Everyone shut up and lynch scott

On October 01 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
I suck maybe I should,be lynched. No I don't believe Scott's claim at all

On October 01 2015 06:53 Damdred wrote:
I'm dead tonight anyway because how I framed things unless there's a medic because I'm not,thinking past my pain meds. Scott has to be dubbing here as I don't believe him.

On October 01 2015 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm dead with no mafia to show for,it just kill Scott tommorow

...it doesn't make much brain cells to figure out what this means.
Even if you are not as quick as i am you should probably figure it out ~10h after the deadline when you read the thread, especially if you are a sc2mafia player who has been solely focused on roles and claims.

mmm.. no, instead he calls me scum for figuring this shit out instantly..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
October 01 2015 10:50 GMT
#2500
The underlined are, for people who cant figure that out, either a town trait for (1) coolnamedude or (2) how he plays the game.

Both go against his own definition of how town plays.
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