On October 06 2015 02:35 Rels wrote: OK now that both rsoultin and sicklucker have answered, I can finally do this. (=
I'm 1-shot French Oak (roleblocker)
I breadcrumbed my role in my first post:
On September 29 2015 17:00 Rels wrote: yo everybody (= starting to read the thread For the record, will be super busy thursday so don't expect much from me that day. Obviously, it will be night 1 so it's not that bad
FO 1 => 1 shot French Oak.
On September 25 2015 23:13 Rels wrote:
On September 25 2015 22:47 Fidei86 wrote: I can CH. Promise to do better than last time.
Cool (= Now please make me french oak
fidei told me he didn't cheat the setup to give me the role, but I'm pretty sure he did ... thanks mate. <3
I roleblocked Moosy N2.
My goal was to wait as long as possible to use my shot, to have more chance at blocking KP + maybe have strongman already used. But with us at LYLO yesterday if I didn't block KP, I had to chance it.
To do that, I needed to not be killed. That's why I did so few cases, and almost didn't use bold through the game. If you look through my filter, you'll see there is a big different between D1-2 and D3; with strongman used and my shot used, I could post freely.
So rsoultin reacted to the Moosy's claim by immediately removing Moosy from her lynch list. SL was super indecisive about it. I'm pretty sure rsoultin is the third mafia.
On October 06 2015 02:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: funny thing is you should still be fine with lynching Shining. But go ahead and tunnel me to split town. Just expect to be made a laughingstock in my banner post game.
Sure if you want us to kill Shining before you, let's do that (=
On October 06 2015 02:44 Rels wrote: So rsoultin reacted to the Moosy's claim by immediately removing Moosy from her lynch list. SL was super indecisive about it. I'm pretty sure rsoultin is the third mafia.
Did you already make a list?
Yes. Catch up with the thread; rsoultin / sicklucker was the only thing I wasn't sure about. I'm sure Shining is mafia, and Moosy is now confirmed.
On October 06 2015 02:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: funny thing is you should still be fine with lynching Shining. But go ahead and tunnel me to split town. Just expect to be made a laughingstock in my banner post game.
Sure if you want us to kill Shining before you, let's do that (=
no, go ahead and tunnel me for the, again, wrong third time in a row.
why are you giving up )= no fun will be had for the rest of the day ?
Pretty happy about the whole thing (= Don't know why Moosy felt the need to do a fake claim like that (= (= The only thing left is decide between rsoultin and sicklucker, and we have the rest of the day to do that
On October 06 2015 02:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am contemplating ruining the thread but I have too much respect for Half the Sky and the cohosts Fidei and Kelsier to actually do it.
gg town
Rels is throwing the game. I can't be bothered to check back after this.
Third mafia is rsoultin / sicklucker. Moosy's claim reaction indicates rsoultin maybe; I could be putting too much strength in that though. Going to eat diner, I'll be back in a few! Let's win that triple LYLO (=
LOL this is unbelievable. And kinda funny p: I'm done for today, going to watch a movie then sleep. I was super motivated this morning when we were at LYLO, but looks like it's actually going well. (= See you tomorrow
LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )=
I'll copy what I said earlier:
1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thoughts on EoD: The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together.
The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever.
i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well.
You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it.
This makes no sense at all.
Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum?
Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately.
Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation?
Someone isn't reading the thread.
He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process?
Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post
No, I don't really see what's wrong. You could have just killed scott during Night and buy town cred from coolTL.
So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim.
2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP
On October 06 2015 00:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: So does anyone want to give me some coaching advice on what the point of a town roleblocker is? I guess it's helpful against the Mafia framer? But then my reason for existing kind of died when Damdred claimed.
Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (=
And we can add: 3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia.
4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens.
whatever going to sleep. I said everything I had to say about Moosy and Shining, and until people are voting them, I won't have anything to add. When people finally decide to lynch them, we can talk about rsoultin / sicklucker
On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote: LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )=
I'll copy what I said earlier:
1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely
On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: he said his claim is not real on N1...
Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late.
This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline:
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote: Guys gb is are roleblocker
I'm not, I was just upset and made that up
Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread:
On October 02 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thoughts on EoD: The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together.
The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever.
i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well.
You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it.
This makes no sense at all.
Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum?
Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately.
Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation?
Someone isn't reading the thread.
He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
On October 02 2015 02:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process?
Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post
No, I don't really see what's wrong. You could have just killed scott during Night and buy town cred from coolTL.
So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim.
2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP
On October 06 2015 00:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: So does anyone want to give me some coaching advice on what the point of a town roleblocker is? I guess it's helpful against the Mafia framer? But then my reason for existing kind of died when Damdred claimed.
Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (=
And we can add: 3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia.
4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens.
1. He skips posts a lot of times. He could genuinely skipped my post
2. He may really not have read his role. I don't know what levels stupidity can reach
3. We don't know how many roles Mafia has. We already know Mafia has a roleblocker and a strongman AND a Miller was in the game. Two power roles and two lesser roles may be a possibility
4. See above
OK. I can't accept all of that, especially together. You need to reread exactly this part where you rescinded your claim. Moosy posted 2 minutes after; he continued reading the thread and answered a post from you that was made 20 minutes after the claim. Now imagine Moosy has already decided to roleblock after your claim. He should be paying extra attention to what you're saying. In fact, he does; the post he did 2 minutes after your claim was a reply to you; and the posts after also talks about you. There is NO way Moosy as roleblocker doesn't notice the rescind. And I'm not arguing it's weird he roleblocked you even after the rescind; that would be understandable. But he claimed he did not know you rescinded your claim to justify the roleblock on you. And, as demonstrated above, that is not possible.
Plus, there is no way there are 2 roleblockers in the setup. That is not balanced, and everybody thinking that should think about the possible implications. 2 roleblockers means there is the possibility to confirm two people if one mafia is flipped. If on N1 or N2, one mafia is flipped and one roleblocker had to claim cause he was getting lynched or whatever. The two roleblockers uses their block on two targets then: - if one people dies, when the roleblocker claims his blocks, the other should do it too => PAM 4 confirmed townies - if none dies, of course the two roleblockers will claim, believing they blocked KP => PAM one mafia between two people confirmed
On October 06 2015 17:33 Rels wrote: Plus, there is no way there are 2 roleblockers in the setup. That is not balanced, and everybody thinking that should think about the possible implications. 2 roleblockers means there is the possibility to confirm two people if one mafia is flipped. If on N1 or N2, one mafia is flipped and one roleblocker had to claim cause he was getting lynched or whatever. The two roleblockers uses their block on two targets then: - if one people dies, when the roleblocker claims his blocks, the other should do it too => PAM 4 confirmed townies - if none dies, of course the two roleblockers will claim, believing they blocked KP => PAM one mafia between two people confirmed
the best part is that if the strongman used on a claimed roleblocker is not super useful, because: => well, the claimed roleblocker should claimed his target at deadline anyway, so it doesn't matter => there is two investigative role running wild now. So two other confirmed townies with investigative abilities
On October 06 2015 00:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Let me explain this nicely.
D1 - First time as roleblocker cool. N1 - GB claims roleblocker. - Well fuck you GB. Since he was lurking and acting somewhat scummy, I’ll just roleblock him. D2 - I don’t even know what the point of this role is lol. - GB says his claim was not serious. - Okay, well maybe his claim was NAI. N2 - LS looks scummy and inactive so I’ll just roleblock him. D3 - Trfel died. - Oh, well there’s no point in killing Trfel unless they were trying to blue hunt. Which means they’re looking for me lel. Only reason they would try to blue hunt is if they’re scared of something blue did. I blocked GB N1 which might mean I did something good and GB's scum.
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: he said his claim is not real on N1...
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: he said his claim is not real on N1...
Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late. I also doubt I would have changed my roleblock anyway. I have no idea how to use this role and it would have been too much of a bother to PM all three hosts again.
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?
So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being: - the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname - the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim ???????????
I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.
Your point on me is true, so I can't say anything about that. But if you think coolTLname is scum, this GB's read is retarded. He was trying to get people to lynch coolTLname over scott! If he was mafia he would shut up and let things happen
hm...I'm actually thinking of dropping the GB read purely because coolTL said he was tunneling on rsoul. He probably just doesn't know the definitions to things.
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thoughts on EoD: The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.
I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID
lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.
I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott
Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?
Looking for that I found a post 1 hour of start of D2 where he knows you retracted your claim:
On October 02 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: GlowingBear i assume you blocked LS right?
Silly rayn
??
did he retract from his claim?
gb is obviously never really claiming at night rofl
also gb did retract his claim
So added to the things above (posting 2 minutes after the rescind, talking to you, replying to a post you made 20 minutes after your rescind), that post saying he did not know you rescinded your claim before the end of the night is laughable.
EPT
