Battle of the Drams Mafia - Page 10

On October 02 2015 00:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Then explain your post stating that you were trying to mimic frenetic town in our scum game together GB. What's your goal in this game? And why did you keep on pushing coolTL? What made you not believe Damdred's counter claim?

On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys gb is are roleblocker

On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

On October 02 2015 02:43 sicklucker wrote:


i know and i thought you were trying to take a bullit =/ poorly

On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.


i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.



My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.




I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.

On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16
starts from ~half of that page (N1).

coolnamedude is mafia.
rsoultin is mafia.
LighntningStrike is mafia

in that order of confidence.

MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town.

I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia.

On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure.

On October 02 2015 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No it really doesn't.

On October 02 2015 21:22 rsoultin wrote:
anyway the point is gb's point isn't invalid and i'm not gonna keep talking to a wall :/

gb, please, if you think that we're going down the wrong path, where do you want to go?

On October 02 2015 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here it is. Please read the whole thing because it's actually relevant to this game in other ways aswell.
First i give you some examples;

A while ago i tried to convince a town to lynch someone because they said "this guy is scum because he is pocketing rayn, but i don't think rayn is necessarily town". You might remember the game... I don't actually think anyone in the game really got my reasoning for why it was obvious the guy was mafia, while it was like "i have this pie here. i am eating it with my spoon. If i have taken away the spoon from the table, it's impossible that guy ate the pie with a spoon. If he claims so afterwards, he is a liar." Really obvious? Mmmm.. apparently it wasn't.

Some year(s) ago i made a case on a guy who did the following; First they called someone out on p20. Then afk. Then i asked for their case. They said: "Here is my case [reasoning from page 30-40]". It is obvious that the dude is mafia because it's literally impossible he has thought someone is scum on p20 if his case doesn't have a simple scummy thing on that guy before p20. Seems like a simple thing? Mmm.. guess what, i had to argue for about 20 pages why it is obvious, hell MAFIA ARGUED FOR ME (yes, his scumbuddies) why it is obvious that guy is mafia. I had to draw a fucking mspaint picture to clarify why it is impossible the dude is NOT lying because apparently my words are somehow unclear...

Now let's go to this game, i have a couple of examples. The first one, maybe easier to understand is this:
rayn: TLname the votes piled up on you because scott claimed
TLname: no, i had 7 votes before scott claimed
rayn: [here is proof why you are lying]
rayn: explain
TLname: ......
.....
TLname: i had 7 votes before scott / damdred / cc
rayn: it does not work like that, explain why you are lying
rsoultin:

the thing here is that [u]was not the original argument. I consider rsoultin one of the smartest people in this game. If one of the smartest people fails to realize / doesn't even care what i write / (or twists things around which i believe is the case here -- and noone even calls her out for it) in the first place, how am i supposed to think other people do?

Another one:
J Roc: rayn bussed sicklucker here
rayn: i don't unnecessary bus and everyone knows it, this would be an unnecessary bus, so you are just straight out lying
Trfel: but rayn you bus
Damdred: yeah you bussed there in the game Trfel pointed out.
rayn: what the fuck is this bullshit Damdred, you were in the game?!?!?
rsoultin: Damdred is factually correct.

In fact Damdred is NOT factually correct here. Even if he believes i unnecessary bussed there, that is not the point. The point is the I DON'T BELIEVE IT and i have clearly expressed it in many occasions. The question becomes to; "rayn himself thinks he doesn't unnecessary bus. would this interaction with sl here be an unnecessary bus in his opinion? If yes, then J Roc's "case" is invalid. If no, then rayn could be mafia for what J Roc says".

And that was the point of the argument, not if anyone else than me does/doesn't think if i unnecessary bussed in some other game. I can understand someone having a different view from the XXX game, but saying "Damdred's argument is factually correct" is just bullshit, because it doesn't have anything to with the original argument.

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It brings me to this:

If i get shot here the following will happen. My reads are proven to be legit, as in a sense that i actually believe in what i am saying (as in i am confirmed not mafia). When this happens, me, and everyone knows marv WILL actually go read what i wrote about people and will evaluate if he thinks i was right or not. He definitely did not do that during N1, so actually NOONE knows where he stood by the end of the night phase. Marv is way more persuasive than i am. It is a fact, just because apparently my writing skills are the poorest on this site and often times i have to yell my lynches through -- which makes people ignore me. Marv also understands me. Therefore, if marv dies - regardless of if i am right or not - mafia has a person (rayn) alive, who is way more easier to ignore/discredit/what the fuck ever people are always doing than marv is. 100%.

And that is the reason why marv dying does not make me "wrong" like you suggest here GB. If i am 100% right on my reads and they are good, marv will read them in case i die, and it is 100% more likely he actually believes me than any other person in the game and actually gets those people lynched.

On October 03 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
Even if cool is scum it doesn't mean truffle isn't. But an apathetic truffle is not a town truffle. Unless I find give a shits in his filter didn't notice before I think he's highly likely to be scum, even over cool