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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 17:37 GMT
#1438
On September 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:
I here HTS what up girl?


Not much. Trying to power through a few filters and re-read the thread on mobile. Apparently there's a meeting in about 90 minutes a bunch of people are going to return here to discuss a few things.

Fidei also mentioned he would return to allocate more time to Mafia Sunday night (it's 1830 here, not sure what time he'd be around) but I'm hoping he can split time between NSM14 and here.

Isn't a little harder to read stuff on mobile lol. Also you asked someone to kill you because your Husband wants to play LoL why not play with him
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 17:42 GMT
#1442
On September 21 2015 02:40 Rels wrote:
Your page argument is stupid though. I don't know why having 17 pages is alignment indicative

Because for some people it actually alignment indicative for them because they post more as town than scum. Some people post more as scum than Town lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 17:45 GMT
#1446
On September 21 2015 02:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
which is a good scum tactic I have seen before. Didn't eden have 50 pages one time?

Ugh not that much when he played scum lol. He had 46 page filter in Horn of Africa I think that was his biggest filter in any game lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 17:51 GMT
#1451
On September 21 2015 02:48 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 21 2015 02:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
which is a good scum tactic I have seen before. Didn't eden have 50 pages one time?


That was as town vanilla in Horn of Africa. He fakeclaimed miller, goodness knows why.

Eden is a player who does jack all as scum, what that has to do with this game, no bloody idea.

You mean Eden doesn't do shit as scum lol. <3 Edem I wish he plays more.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 18:15 GMT
#1470
Fine just lynch me if it's the best play but I still think lynching Damdred is the best move since he's very likely mafia despite what you saying Rayn.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1472
Not worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1473
On September 21 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
No worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 19:40 GMT
#1484
Hmm BM isn't even here O_o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 20:14 GMT
#1485
HTS are you here?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 20:26 GMT
#1489
On September 21 2015 05:19 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tictock what happens if we lynch LS here and he is town? Your dumb post about the numbers makes no fucking sense at all.


I'm a little confused by this question.

My "numbers post" had nothing to do with LS, it was purely an attempt to make sure that a claim and soup kill today did not leave town in a shitty spot.

Why is my post dumb? There was 3 people who did the exact same type of post. What about mine in particular is dumb?

If LS is town and we lynch him then town is pretty SoL. Being 5/3 or at best 6/2 going into D3 is going to suck. Even worse if the crusader gets picked off and takes a townie with him.

I'm not completly sold on it just yet, but I'm thinking it's pretty likely LS is scum at this juncture. (Shoutout to Waffel-Boy who couldn't be in this game). Mostly my read on him is based on his lack of reads despite having a large filter. I also thought his position on Dandel was strange going into EoD. He asked at one point if we thought Dandel was just trolling or was mafia. Rels posted a mafia case on Dandel well before EoD (when LS was around, but he ignored/missed it) then a few hours before EoD LS comes back calling Dandel trolly town. Other than that "read" I've only seen LS give opinions on Geript, Damdred, Rayn, and when pushed rather un-opinionated reads on myself and Fidei.

@ BM

This reminded me you asked me a questions about LS's long post about his Damdred read. I thought it was a pretty useless post, tbh. All he really did was pull a bunch of quotes from his filter and state what each was a response to. Was made even more useless since Vivax had just been asking him for reads, but then he goes and rehashed an old read like he was proving something.


Did you not see what I quoted first? I quoted the post about him saying my Damdred read didn't have much drive so I quoted all the stuff I had said about Damdred throughout the game at that point like are blind like a bat?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 20:40 GMT
#1493
Okay guys who are not familar with my meta here some filters I want you guys to check from the database.
Games that similar in nature like this from my end:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Games I had been scum in:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 21:32 GMT
#1498
On September 21 2015 05:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Done with the game in question.

LS, my understanding is you are being lynched for strategic reasons (at least according to rayn) and nothing is going to stop that, judging from the votes.

I think your best bet is to find someone that is a higher probability of being scum than you are. Other than Damdred, I disagree with the lack of check, I get both sides of the story but assuming all the fallen thus far are town and Damdred is one of the three scum, who else is bad in your books?

Honestly James haven't done shit this entire Day phase and it kind bothering me now and plus earlier I had mention this but the person talks about the most was me and he got the highest % wise of filter of me over anyone else.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 21:35 GMT
#1499
Also honestly I can't wait to work with Geript in the Angel QT whenever I die because at least I can prove him wrong about his read on me
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 22:07 GMT
#1502
On September 21 2015 06:55 Half the Sky wrote:
In your world, why does this make James a higher probability of being scum?

Well honestly he not been posting as much as I recalled him doing in Himalayas when he was mason with Tina plus scum love to defend townies all the time and he defended me the hardest(I think) and he didn't do much other than defend me. He seem to be much more detached to this game than I ever seen him as town but him being the other game bu the explanation for it so(shrugs)
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 22:42 GMT
#1510
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1513
On September 21 2015 07:53 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls

what do you mean here? (ff)

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On September 21 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm

@ RELS (BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEED THIS WARNING) ;( ........ i already told people NOT TO DO THIS. Geript did it and it was BAD PLAY
why the hell would you claim what role you're not? that's terrible !!!
Do you understand what souping is???
DO.NOT.CLAIM.WHAT.ROLE.YOU'RE.NOT


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On September 21 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm

I would prefer James but i don't really care about this game anymore. Maybe you are right but i am 90% sure BM is not mafia.

If people won't even try to understand why this thing must be played in a certain way when there are soup kills and mafia gets the roles of NK'd ppl then it's going to be impossible to win already.

OH AND RAYN CHIMES IN
THANKS FOR HELPING MAFIA GUYS

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On September 21 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to try to say this once more.

The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.

Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.

Here is why the lynch is the best:
1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario
2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia
3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION.
4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.

The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him.
The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia.
IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.

there is only 1 problem with your plan, but i really can't say what it is right now

it's not really a problem, it's just slightly better scenario for us (in my opinion) and really is in regards to playstyle in general so it is semantic and doesn't have meaning to this conversation

Really excellent post, point, and sentiment, Rayn. Bravo. Glad I'm already voting LS because this is an S+ concept. Buy more wards, though :D

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On September 21 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Not worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God

LMFAO

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On September 21 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i am gonna have a glass of Talisker Dark Stormand watch some Heroes.
Maybe i'll care to put some effort tomorrow.


[image loading]

LOL

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On September 21 2015 03:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls


......

What do you make of Damdred?

Do you think (based on your last post and maybe what BM is saying) that Rels is being opportunistic?

Do you think he can reasonably be opportunistic when he's not really played with you in games before?

which post do you mean from me?

I don't think we should assume he is a green check and I think he is still on the table for lynch. I think the lack of a red check claim might buy him today but if he doesn't pick it up I don't care about implied cop checks

I feel like FecalFeast dodged the meat and bones of HtS's questions here... FF's response doesn't sit well with me. I can't put my finger on why, though.

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On September 21 2015 05:19 Tictock wrote:
On September 20 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tictock what happens if we lynch LS here and he is town? Your dumb post about the numbers makes no fucking sense at all.


I'm a little confused by this question.

My "numbers post" had nothing to do with LS, it was purely an attempt to make sure that a claim and soup kill today did not leave town in a shitty spot.

Why is my post dumb? There was 3 people who did the exact same type of post. What about mine in particular is dumb?

If LS is town and we lynch him then town is pretty SoL. Being 5/3 or at best 6/2 going into D3 is going to suck. Even worse if the crusader gets picked off and takes a townie with him.

I'm not completly sold on it just yet, but I'm thinking it's pretty likely LS is scum at this juncture. (Shoutout to Waffel-Boy who couldn't be in this game). Mostly my read on him is based on his lack of reads despite having a large filter. I also thought his position on Dandel was strange going into EoD. He asked at one point if we thought Dandel was just trolling or was mafia. Rels posted a mafia case on Dandel well before EoD (when LS was around, but he ignored/missed it) then a few hours before EoD LS comes back calling Dandel trolly town. Other than that "read" I've only seen LS give opinions on Geript, Damdred, Rayn, and when pushed rather un-opinionated reads on myself and Fidei.

@ BM

This reminded me you asked me a questions about LS's long post about his Damdred read. I thought it was a pretty useless post, tbh. All he really did was pull a bunch of quotes from his filter and state what each was a response to. Was made even more useless since Vivax had just been asking him for reads, but then he goes and rehashed an old read like he was proving something.


I forgot I asked you about that, but I'm glad you remembered.
I just thought it was odd, especially the fact he called it a long post. It was just a few short snippets of responses that felt discombobulated ... almost as if his teammate made the post for him. It didn't sound like an LS post in general... I'm going to go reread that. I'm glad you brought this up.

Vivax said my Damdred read had very little substance or something along those lines and I made that post explaining my position on Damdred throughout the game and why I thought the things I did during those posts.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 23:00 GMT
#1515
But in all honesty it might be the best to lynch me so I can tell Geript how bad his read on me was and actually try to make hero plays with the Angel Saves Mechanics
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 23:03 GMT
#1520
On September 21 2015 08:01 Bill Murray wrote:
LS said"
Show nested quote +
"Vivax said my Damdred read had very little substance or something along those lines and I made that post explaining my position on Damdred throughout the game and why I thought the things I did during those posts."


Well, in your defense, Damdred has had very little substance, low impact, and no energy So how could your case have a lot of substance, when there isn't anything to build it off of?

Because Damdred is normally very high substance, high impact, and lots of energy as town at least in my experience with playing with him and I been playing with him since the same time I started playing with Tina and HTS so I know him pretty well lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 23:04 GMT
#1522
On September 21 2015 08:02 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.

this is a game, not real life; you're not going to heaven
if you wanna look at it that way, though, if you're really the pope, you should be happy with where you're at right now
.... all you can really do here as town is SCUMHUNT like i've said to do... like... go through pages 1-70... pick page 57 for example... and read through it trying to find whose words would have come from scum.

If you want a good idea to do, while doing that, that will help you, read what people are saying and try to not look at their names... just read the words that are being posted.... that way you aren't reading it like the person posted that and you're reading what they posted instead which would help you

if you do this for me ill unvote you and try to get other people to lynch someone else because im not as sure you're scum as everyone else is sure you're scum...

i really would like to give you 1 more day to see where you are at this game and put you on probation instead of sending you to the noose

Will you do that for me? go to pages Fifty Seven to Sixty and just read them and talk about 2 to 3 people that are scum. dont talk about who is town, talk about who is scum. dont give information about what they said so much as do analysis of why they are scum for saying it and what makes them scum for the motivation of doing it.


Will do but I don't think it will be worth it >.<
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 20 2015 23:45 GMT
#1537
On September 21 2015 08:40 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 08:32 Bill Murray wrote:
gonna possible go see a movie ... taking a break from this either way... maybesome dota 2 ?


I'm on now, are you in the Steam group? Last round for me though.

I wouldn't mind playing Dota 2 with you I need a little bit of a break from reading the pages BM told me to read.
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