Season of the Witch 2 - Page 7

On September 16 2015 18:10 Dandel Ion wrote:

dunno how good his meta shit is (but geript disagreed so it's probably solid) but he knows about the shine, which is more than i can say about anybody else this game.

On September 16 2015 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:


I generally think people who do not think things through properly before posting are mafia. I understand regarding James and HtS what you say could be the case here, but on the other hand it's really easy to come in when you are mafia and just trash on people on their read when the dude they were scumreading starts to look town (regarding to James and LS here). At the time me and geript were scumreading LS the read was really logical and made the most sense in the game (yes it really did). Both of them didn't even go into the reasons - they just said something i find out to be nonsense, especially considering LS is likely to be town here. It's easy to defend a townie when you are scum, and in neither of these cases (James & HtS) there was no reason to post what they did.

Regarding TT. The second post i quoted jsut a while ago; I have a really hard time believing that is what the dude actually believes could be true. He has played with me, he knows how i do present my reads. I don't lay out everything at the start because it pushes out reactions. I have NEVER made a read, not explain it, and then NOT have reasons behind the read. Every single person who has ever played with me knows that. Like the dude has seen me make posts like this:

...and then he somehow believes it could be true i didn't have reasoning behind my read on LS at the start of the game.
It is just bullshit.

On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

On September 15 2015 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

okay then we have the same reason

On September 16 2015 16:44 Rels wrote:
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?

On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect. I don't know how any of you can be surprised that LS says stuff that doesn't add up early on. He's done that in every game I've seen him in, and he's also basically like that in voice. The way that he responded to Rels at his post #362 (basically "I'm not talking to you any more") felt very genuine, and exactly how I'd expect angsty town LS to respond.

On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think the person who comes out from the LS push looking the worst is TT. At his post #218 he basically says that LS is a "fine lynch", but his reasons are just re-hashes of what other people have posted earlier. He then takes it back at (#473) after others already had. I also think his town reads of Rayn, Rels and Vivax feel a little ... safe. I think thread sentiment is all pretty set on those three already, for pretty obvious reasons. When TT was mafia in HG he felt like he was always on the right side of every argument, and so far he reminds me of this.

On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- Rels looks towny insofar as his activity level goes, but he was also early on the LS 'wagon', although he didn't vote for it. I also don't like his TT read, and quite a lot of his activity seems responsive rather than pro-active, which is different from our last game together. Then again, that game (Personalities) was pretty weird and so IDK whether it's a reliable guide to someone's meta.

On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
I don't have a good handle on geript, TS (whose thread entry got a lot of talk, but which seemed pretty NAI to me) and FF.

On September 16 2015 21:00 geript wrote:
Lynching non-factor Dandelion is a good idea.

Can someone who knows Shining confirm or deny this ? If this is a lie, Damdred's read is super fake.

On September 16 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:



Beginning to be tired of these reads without explanation.
Next time, please don't hit post until what you wrote is a defense against LS saying you're using fabricated meta.

On September 17 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:

No. This has nothing to do with shining lying or alignment.
It's simple: if shining has an history of getting emotional as town, then I can understand damdred s scumread of him, even if it doesn't apply this game. I agree that outside of that, damdred may be scum for not being active if that is his scum meta.

On September 17 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no it isn't.
there is a difference in shining's play.
Damdred would attack that as either alignment. It doesn't make him anything.

That is the only real read Damdred has.