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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 12:15 GMT
#781
OK
You're mafia
good to have one confirmed (=
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 17 2015 12:16 GMT
#782
For refference this is more or less where I remember being. Might be subject to change as I reread here.

raynpelikoneet
Damdred
Fecalfeast
Bill Murray
The Shining
Vivax
Rels
Half the Sky
LightningStrike
Fidei86
geript
Dandel Ion
I can take that responsibility.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 17 2015 12:21 GMT
#783
@dandel if you aren't going to at least *look* like you're trying to play the game, then I really just want to vote you off. This sort of stuff makes me so angry - it's like KSC and OWS in the last game, or Onegu in all his games. Town just can't win with people like you trolling and refusing to help. Nobody NKs you, eventually we get to LYLO and you're the easiest mL target in the world, or alternatively you don't help.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22152 Posts
September 17 2015 12:22 GMT
#784
Dude it's a waste of time to get something out of Dandel, if crusader dies at any point he should just take him down.

I'm reasonably sure we should lynch into BM or damdy today.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 12:27 GMT
#785
On September 17 2015 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Dude it's a waste of time to get something out of Dandel, if crusader dies at any point he should just take him down.

I'm reasonably sure we should lynch into BM or damdy today.

I don't agree. If he was only useless or trolly there would be a chance for him to be town. But look:

the only reads he explained where:
- Damdred is town
- Shining is mafia

I didn't understand the "Damdred town" read. HTS didn't as well and asked for details, which he never gave.
His "Shining mafia" read is based on the fact the Shining is not scumreading Damdred, which is false. When I asked him to explain why Shining was mafia he answered; but when I provided him with evidence his read was false, he didn't explain it further.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22152 Posts
September 17 2015 12:29 GMT
#786
He won't explain anything no matter how much you pressure him, he'll just leave you hanging in your demands while laughing at you. You think I never tried? British Empire II.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 12:29 GMT
#787
this level of lies and slander lol, haven't got anything better
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 12:30 GMT
#788
*?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 12:31 GMT
#789
Alternativaly, on the 1% chance he's town: a big reason we lost the last game (personality mafia) was that KSC played exactly like that, and vig didn't shoot him. Because of one stupid thing he said, FF was suspected of being mafia when he was claimed cop, and the last mafia nuked FF without getting suspected.
The crusader cannot shot when he wants. He that was the case, I would agree to vig him N1. But we cannot know if that will happen.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 12:32 GMT
#790
On September 17 2015 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
this level of lies and slander lol, haven't got anything better

you think I will talk to you ?? stupid
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 12:32 GMT
#791
rolf
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22152 Posts
September 17 2015 12:33 GMT
#792
Read BM please and convince yourself why he's mafia ty
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#793
On September 17 2015 21:33 Vivax wrote:
Read BM please and convince yourself why he's mafia ty

you think BM is mafia ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 12:40 GMT
#794
On September 17 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS i believe is mafia for several reasons.

His opening. Geript is definiteky right about his meta. Also see the next point. I talked about this earlier.

LS has really hard time lying as mafia. Here he does things that are scummy when not explained. When people ask him to ezplain, instead of laying out his thought process he takes a re-route and talks about something distantly related to the matter (see for example the GB stuff - that jhas nothing to do with what geript said because gb is NEVER a town leader even when he is "leading"). Also see the part where i ask his grail vote.

Sorry for bad explanation. I am on phone and posting on phone is shit.

1. Geript is not entirely right about my meta I proved in the thread.
2. People been asking things and they wanted it explained further so ofc it looks like it gets rerouted.
3. We both have different definitions of Townl eaders so ofc you don't think GB is ever a town leader but he did lead town in Carol of the Bells because HF was scum that game so ofc HF wasn't exactly leading town that game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 12:40 GMT
#795
On September 17 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS i believe is mafia for several reasons.

His opening. Geript is definiteky right about his meta. Also see the next point. I talked about this earlier.

LS has really hard time lying as mafia. Here he does things that are scummy when not explained. When people ask him to ezplain, instead of laying out his thought process he takes a re-route and talks about something distantly related to the matter (see for example the GB stuff - that jhas nothing to do with what geript said because gb is NEVER a town leader even when he is "leading"). Also see the part where i ask his grail vote.

Sorry for bad explanation. I am on phone and posting on phone is shit.

1. Geript is not entirely right about my meta I proved it in the thread.
2. People been asking things and they wanted it explained further so ofc it looks like it gets rerouted.
3. We both have different definitions of Townl eaders so ofc you don't think GB is ever a town leader but he did lead town in Carol of the Bells because HF was scum that game so ofc HF wasn't exactly leading town that game.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 12:43 GMT
#796
I guess that what happens when Rayn drinks Alcohol when I'm town
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 12:48 GMT
#797
Anyone here want to talk? I kinda bored if no one is here I will just filter dive Ticktock.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 17 2015 12:57 GMT
#798
Oh you know iahve drunk some.
How?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 17 2015 12:58 GMT
#799
No no no.
It does not matter. You are mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 13:00 GMT
#800
Why is Dandel Ion mafia: an easy catch


1. Dandel Ion actively lurked the whole D1
Actively lurking, IE reading the thread but not posting anything interesting or answering questions, is scum indicative. There are no benefits for a townie to do that. The benefits for a mafia to do that are: posting to appear active, not sharing reads mean you cannot be judged on your positions, not answering questions means people cannot understand you.
Plus, here is a geript quote regarding Dandel's scum meta:

On September 17 2015 04:53 geript wrote:
Dandel might be town but ugh. He usually hates playing as mafia often to the point of getting his team to bus him for credit. Usually as mafia he's low to super low activity, which is what I see here. It's not a 100% thing but I think it's a decent flip.

So Dandel is playing his scum meta this game.

2. Dandel Ion said The Shining was scum for not scumreading Damdred, which is false
Dandel said:
On September 17 2015 18:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 10:52 Half the Sky wrote:
So if your first post was serious why are you trusting the read when you don't know how good his meta shit is?

Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to communicate (in the bolded)?

Particularly when Shining had a very sharp (IMO) reaction to how Damdred scumread him on page 26. What do you make of that then?

If you are being serious and I am understanding you correctly, then I have no idea how you are townreading Damdred.

How am I trusting his read?
Sharp? shining is an obvious omgusser, yet he didn't even call damdred scum (for that, but also not for anything else, but he sure is trying hard to soft it)

shining is just scum it's really that simple

That is not true. Shining is not "trying hard to soft" attack Damdred. He is currently voting Damdred and said his vote won't move until deadline:
On September 17 2015 09:46 The Shining wrote:
##deadlinevote Damdred
##HolyGrail Fecalfeast

On September 17 2015 09:42 The Shining wrote:
So Damdred comes back with more nothing, while WIFOMing his alignment in not one but two games. Bro, I hate you right now. W.e I'm done, see you guys at deadline.

Don't really care who gets the grail, either. Give it to whoever will be nkd n1 so this slow game can end fast.


3. Dandel doesn't answer my questions but attacks me as a person
Not talking about his trolling, but about that bit right there:
On September 17 2015 19:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
inb4 french scum takes this as excuse to rub all over my balls like he wanted to the whole game

I didn't push Dandel the whole day. D1 I put him in a useful list of useless people to warn him and others they should not be useless in this game. D2 I voted him and specifically said I would re evaluate when he starts playing. Only now I truly believe he is scum.
So Dandel Ion is lying about me attacking him the whole day.

BUT the reverse is true.
D1 when I posted the first version of the useful list, Dandel's reaction was:
On September 15 2015 17:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

oh no

And when he continues being here while still being useless, I put him into the "maybe scum category", his reaction was:
On September 15 2015 18:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 18:34 Rels wrote:
Going to grab some lunch so I'll be AFK until later. Here is my brain right now:

Town
rayn
Vivax
TT

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
HTS
fidei
BM

Maybe scum
Dandel Ion

Scum
The Shining
LS

See you all later (=

lynch imo


So Dandel is accusing me of something I didn't do, but he has actually done to me.

Conclusion
Dandel is mafia for actively lurking, not helping others to understand him, having one of his two reads based on something false, attacking me as a person. There is a small chance he is Grandier, intentionally playing shitty to get reactions, then sacrificing himself to decide the lynch at the end of the day. I don't believe it as it would be sub optimal play. And even if he is, lynching him is what he wants.
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