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On September 17 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:
I'm going to vote ff for grail at this point. He's pretty obvious town, rels is pretty obvious town.
I'm sorta short I'll be more active tommorow just doing a major party for work.
This post makes me question giving FF the grail a bit.
I'm thinking FF is town, but the way Damdred lists FF and Rels together as two obvious town is strange to me. I see a few posts in FF's filter that look pretty towny but I wouldn't group him with obviously town Rels.
Plus ofc I'm scum reading Damdred so...
@FF you are scumreading Damdred for similar reasons to me I think.
How does him wanting to give you the grail affect your read on him?
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On September 17 2015 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh you know iahve drunk some.
How?
Because I know you way to well from our talk on TS.
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On September 17 2015 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No no no.
It does not matter. You are mafia.
I not fucking mafia maybe smoke some weed? I heard it's good for you :o
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Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.
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rayn I would like you thoughts on the Dandel's case, more precisely the fake Shining read part which is the strongest point.
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On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.
how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)
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On September 17 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment. how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)
He only changed with the thread sentiment O_o HTS maybe done the same thing but rayn's read progression was more natural though although he changed his read on me because apparently I reroute shit when some of the questions asked me to explain further which looks like it's rerouting -.-
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In case this is a contested lynch between LS Damdred and Dandel, I need you to read this
As rayn posted, it is important that we decide who the inquisitor should check. If we do that:
- the oracle has a garanteed hit
- if the inquisitor doesn't claim a red check D2, it means that the checked target is town
If there is a contested lynch, the person we decided to check might be lynched, and we cannot talk at night in this setup. It could mean the inquisitor and the oracle not knowing who to check.
SO
Near the end of the day, everybody should state who they want to check in addition to their lynch.
In the person they wanted to check is lynched instead, the inquisitor would just have to assume their initial lynch target is their check target.
OK ?
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For example, right now my lynch target is Dandel and my check target is Damdred.
If Damdred is lynched, my check target becomes Dandel.
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On September 17 2015 12:25 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm on the latter part of Tictock's filter and honestly finding his filter direction tenuous in general - I'm assuming he's scumreading Fidei for finding the push on LS suspicious but I thought he stressed part of that reason for scumming Tictock was that the read felt a little "safe" in that other people already were doing it. I didn't see Fidei's read as being unreasonable.
Sorta right, I'm not too concerned with Fidei scum reading me kus of my rather flippant post/read on LS at that point. I thought it was odd that he looked at the LS push and went looking for scum pushing LS, also the answers he gave me as to why he thought this were rather poor imo. So I'm scumreading him for looking for easy excuses to call people scum.
Also from about the second half of his filter (from posts 583 to about 609) I am having trouble telling whether he's trying to scumread rayn or just try and understand what he's saying. I know rayn somewhere in there tried to clarify a sequence of events but regardless I'm still pretty unclear where Tictock is going after post 609, the conclusion is really unclear as to where he stands on rayn if he's clarified where his townread on geript is coming from.
I'd be rather surprised to find out Rayn is anything but town, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for him to be scum here. I was more interested why he had such a hard read on geript more than trying check my read. Town!Rayn can give townreads for bad reasons, or scumreads for that matter. Part of it is that I'm pretty null on geript myself so I was wondering if there was something I was missing.
All said and done I got nothing out of that. Geript still seems pretty null to me, and Rayn's reasons for townreading him don't do anything for me.
Also noticed when he asked Dandel how he'd describe his posting and didn't follow up with his response (Dandel had replied "conscious" or something) - not sure if he missed that or just ignored it.
But lack of direction on that end warrants a scumlean. Also not understanding why he finds the Fidei read poor which is easy to trace if you look at the back and forth in his filter.
Dandel's response there made me smile, but doesn't help me read him a whole lot. Still making up my mind about that guy.
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On September 17 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
[made up BS]
There is a small chance he is Grandier, intentionally playing shitty to get reactions, then sacrificing himself to decide the lynch at the end of the day.
You should hope I'm not because if I am you're donezo
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On September 17 2015 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is basically begging a cop check so i don't think the lynch on him is a good idea. I also think the cop should check him because we either get a red, or we get a really good townie (if he can be trusted to be town).
Humm, this feels like a somewhat sudden shift but I think I can get behind it. It makes sense to me given how the roles play out to rely on a cop check like this.
I'm not sure LS would be my first backup without rechecking his filter though.
Was there anything besides LS suggesting you get the grail rayn that changed your mind on LS?
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On September 17 2015 06:57 Bill Murray wrote:
god i thought i made it right before deadline but we have a whole day dont we...
i feel like an idiot now
This post + the fact BM afked for 10 hours after it makes me want to rethink my townlean on him
Then again his rapid fire posting when he did come back is somewhat towny.
Ehh prob not someone I'd lynch today.
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On September 17 2015 22:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:57 Bill Murray wrote:
god i thought i made it right before deadline but we have a whole day dont we...
i feel like an idiot now This post + the fact BM afked for 10 hours after it makes me want to rethink my townlean on him Then again his rapid fire posting when he did come back is somewhat towny. Ehh prob not someone I'd lynch today.
Yeah I thought that post in particular was pretty weird too.
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On September 17 2015 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Dude it's a waste of time to get something out of Dandel, if crusader dies at any point he should just take him down.
I'm reasonably sure we should lynch into BM or damdy today.
Can you explain why you scumread BM?
I don't think the stuff about him ignoring rayn but calling you out, or w/e was very scummy. So wondering if you have more than that.
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On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.
Got it, you only care if I talk about you.
You really can't get anything else out of my filter?
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Rels what do you make of Damdred wanting to give FF the grail?
Having a hard time deciding this one.
I'm not sure I really care to try and make a case for myself getting it, nor do I think I have a chance at convincing enough people. So only option for me seems to be finding someone else to take it.
This also reminded me that I didn't like this post very much
On September 17 2015 09:42 The Shining wrote:
So Damdred comes back with more nothing, while WIFOMing his alignment in not one but two games. Bro, I hate you right now. W.e I'm done, see you guys at deadline.
Don't really care who gets the grail, either. Give it to whoever will be nkd n1 so this slow game can end fast.
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LS if you are still around, who do you think should get the grail?
Or do you still want to give it to rayn?
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On September 17 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote:
Rels what do you make of Damdred wanting to give FF the grail?
Having a hard time deciding this one.
Nothing but WIFOM.
Him townreading FF means nothing, as it is easy for scum to townread people.
I don't think it means anything.
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I think you should openly campaign for your election though p:
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