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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2015 10:40 GMT
#1121
JAT could also be mafia. I am actually serious that he could be. There's a lot of argumentative loud people in this game and there is plenty to stuff I talk about. I just get this overall feeling that he's always sort of in the background. Maybe I'm just ignoring his posts but whenever people are talking in the thread (for example this morning) it feels like he is offering way less to the discussion than everyone else who is talking.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2015 10:41 GMT
#1122
On September 16 2015 19:38 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not sure you can equivocate the 2, tbh.

one he was hard-defending a scumbuddy based on previous soul reads

here he's just giving out townreads. even if he's mafia it's hard to pick out an agenda there, unlike in XXX

Maybe 2 of me/koshi/rayn are mafia!
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 10:41 GMT
#1123
the towniest thing about waffle is his first post where he interjects a random comment and is happy just to sit and leave it there and not post again for ages.

which does create some waffle.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 16 2015 10:42 GMT
#1124
On September 16 2015 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
the towniest thing about waffle is his first post where he interjects a random comment and is happy just to sit and leave it there and not post again for ages.

which does create some waffle.

aaayyyyy
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 10:48 GMT
#1125
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

lol

can't tell if townie or scummy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 10:48 GMT
#1126
On September 16 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I haven't even read rayn's case on moosy.

Also I can't even remember cephiro posting after a strong start so he is getting a downgrade.

This is correct.

So there was some normal game ages ago now where I superhardpushed (remember those days?) Cephiro on d2 because i was convinced he was mafia (he was)

then i thought he was mafia in a game soon after and pushed him again, except this time he wasn't. In that game he posted more kinda self-centred wall of texts like he has here, which led me to my early townread on him in this case

but if he's not playing, maybe he just decided that was his effort for the day.

dno though, will think about it a bit later

You're probably talking about TL Noir and Hogwarts.
On September 16 2015 19:40 Palmar wrote:
JAT could also be mafia. I am actually serious that he could be. There's a lot of argumentative loud people in this game and there is plenty to stuff I talk about. I just get this overall feeling that he's always sort of in the background. Maybe I'm just ignoring his posts but whenever people are talking in the thread (for example this morning) it feels like he is offering way less to the discussion than everyone else who is talking.

You can say I was in the background yesterday. But not today - that's just plain untrue. Not that it would make me mafia anyways.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 10:50 GMT
#1127
On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.

i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest.

the thing is, see the post that me/palmar quoted from last game.

moosy was very inaccurate with details there.

i just don't even BEGIN to grasp what rayn is pushing here :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 10:51 GMT
#1128
On September 16 2015 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.

i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest.

the thing is, see the post that me/palmar quoted from last game.

moosy was very inaccurate with details there.

i just don't even BEGIN to grasp what rayn is pushing here :/

Unless there is some super secret meta reasoning it is just bad.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 10:51 GMT
#1129
yeah it was Noir. Not 100% sure if hogwarts was the game i was thinking about after (although i know we were both in it and i may have called him mafia, feels like there may have been another, maybe not though)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 10:58 GMT
#1130
i just don't think i'm going to lynch moosy here.

the really weird "not rolled mafia before" thing seems NAI judging by both Moosy/rayn's reactions to it. he's super all over the place. maybe he can play like this as mafia, but do i have any reason to think so right now? 100% do not get this misremembering rayn in another game thing.

In reality mafia do not make these errors more than town, in fact probably less.

Cephiro has no new content. It's easy to talk in general terms at the start of the game, less so when real shit actually starts happening.
Waffle just isn't here, weird things in his list post, stood up really bad to ritoky's questioning i thought.

some more active/well-known-ish mafia that i don't really know if i want to try to pursue today. jat can be mafia but he kinda seems a little less pissy than i imagine him to be as mafia (and yes you're probs all reading this going "well he IS being pissy" - nonetheless, i think that )
maybe geript, his non-townread on rayn is wonky, his Damdred stuff was wonky, i know he's busy but i guess i'd expect a little more urgency? and when he actually answered me he sounded fine.

##Vote: Cephiro

kinda giving warwaffle tiny benefit of the doubt for his very first post + the fact he just gets mislynched d1 all the time. good reasons.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 11:00 GMT
#1131
totally forgot Wile. Would probably also lynch because i think most others look townier.

i think rayn's defence of him is based on associations that he shouldn't be making (esp moosy).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 11:01 GMT
#1132
What do you think of Palmar?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 11:01 GMT
#1133
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 11:02 GMT
#1134
I think damdred started the game throwing townreads around and then at some point just fell off a cliff.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 16 2015 11:03 GMT
#1135
I said cephiro was mafia from the get go. I had like 4 reasons.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 11:04 GMT
#1136
he has a lot of tonal posts that point towards town. but i'm missing some of the clever stuff (well, the stuff that you didn't think made him town last game but i did). but he feels very unforced which is good.

i'd say i'd be fairly surprised if he was scum in this situation, but it's not out of the question.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 16 2015 11:05 GMT
#1137
On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.

yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage

i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole

if you do, please go ahead :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
September 16 2015 11:10 GMT
#1138
On September 16 2015 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

lol

can't tell if townie or scummy


when i am mafiai am not voting someone that is believed to be vt. Thats for damn sure im going after potential poweroles. I think if theres clear evidence im town its that im voting a claimed vt because i am not terrible.

In the format I play protecting power roles is super important and finding them as mafia is even more.

I have moosys range as vt/ lying about being vt for cheap newbie town reads.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 11:11 GMT
#1139
On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.

yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage

i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole

if you do, please go ahead :>

The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 16 2015 11:12 GMT
#1140
On September 16 2015 20:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.

And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life

lol

can't tell if townie or scummy


when i am mafiai am not voting someone that is believed to be vt. Thats for damn sure im going after potential poweroles. I think if theres clear evidence im town its that im voting a claimed vt because i am not terrible.

In the format I play protecting power roles is super important and finding them as mafia is even more.

I have moosys range as vt/ lying about being vt for cheap newbie town reads.

Powerroles are way less important in forum mafia. Mafia will almost never push someone because they think it is a powerrole. It is hard enough to get any kind of mislynch going without giving yourself away.
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