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On September 06 2015 02:46 CopCake wrote:
Why is slam mafia?
- because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't.
- his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained.
There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game.
Read my filter, it's all there.
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On September 06 2015 02:49 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:43 CopCake wrote:On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia. I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me. I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously  you already are. I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb. Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia. He is looking into other places in who is mafia. There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion. There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here. Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you. Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check. noobking slam(?) coughinghydra(?) I don't have a "very mafia" read except for noobking. Like i think everyone else is town except for james and boxerfred and even boxerfred is silghty leaning towards town for reasons i will not go more detail into at least yet. GB is null just because i do not like his votes. What's wrong about my votes? I'm pretty comfort with them for now.
Because i am almost definitely sure scott is town.
Why do you think he is mafia?
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On September 06 2015 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:- because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't. - his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained. There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game. Read my filter, it's all there.
But doesn't that make him townie?
Like if he knows his meta and how he works, and he knows how you read him, wouldn't he try to mimic that as mafia?
Mafia would try to win town's or strong player's trust, so I think that if he was mafia he would try to just act as "alakazam" town unless he is very very bad at faking it.
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On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town
Basically, these are summary with lazy reads.
Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town.
Then he fucks off.
Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new.
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On September 06 2015 02:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:46 CopCake wrote:
Why is slam mafia? - because he was catching up he didn't address my posts almost at all. i have a huge lot meta on him and when he is town he usually trusts me (when he thinks i am town, and he does here). here he doesn't. - his point on Breshke getting "thrown off" which he hasn't explained. There are these "filter" buttons in people's posts. If you click it you can have an ISO of that persons posts in this game. Read my filter, it's all there. But doesn't that make him townie? Like if he knows his meta and how he works, and he knows how you read him, wouldn't he try to mimic that as mafia? Mafia would try to win town's or strong player's trust, so I think that if he was mafia he would try to just act as "alakazam" town unless he is very very bad at faking it.
oh but he is.
especially if noobking is mafia he what choice does he have?
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On September 06 2015 02:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town Basically, these are summary with lazy reads. Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town. Then he fucks off. Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new.
have you ever read any games of his?
i suggest you go read one.
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On September 06 2015 02:53 scott31337 wrote:I'm only at page 19 - We have a vote thread I see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread#12##Vote N00bkingGB probably mafia too for his - GB thing and defending Breshke trying almost too hard - I have not seen him pour so much into a game - maybe he got laid off - but I have to call him town for now, but tinfoil scary the work he is putting in
Like this.
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On September 05 2015 14:29 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:07 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.
The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.
meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. On September 05 2015 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cakeycake what's your read on Noobking?
And do you think someone (else - if not him) is mafia? Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:13 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? yes, it makes him like 95% mafia. On September 05 2015 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:12 GlowingBear wrote:
You don't think is reasonable to call you Mafia for displaying bad arguments in thread, at least in my POV?
Also, consider I'm town. I'm having very different reads from you. I think Moosy doosy is Mafia and I really don't understand how can you town read him.
Do you understand why I think Moosy doosy is Mafia? I am sorry if you think that way but i have displayed zero bad arguments in thread. My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good. My argument on noobking is also good. You are (probably unintentionally) misrepresenting my "argument" on Breshke. So please go back and read what i answered to Moosy. You know i tend to use certainties, if i say "zero reason" it does in fact mean "zero reason in my opinion (at this point)". I push people to contribute, and i pressure them, that's why i use such wording. You should know it, you have played with me enough. I don't undersntad why you think Moosy is mafia. Can you clarify? Or do i need to go read somethign again? On September 05 2015 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? yes, it makes him like 95% mafia. And what's the mafia likelihood on the player that you're voting against instead of him? lol 98% On September 05 2015 10:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
town:
MoosyDoosy
CopCake
scott31337
Superbia
GlowingBear
yamato77
Breshke
scum:
n00bKing
Alakaslam
CoughingHydra
Fidei86
boxerfred
On September 05 2015 11:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:the third paragraph is jsut outright bullshit for anyone who knows yamato's/Slam's play. fourth is well... how i play as town. + the fact i was not creating a poor atmosphere, in fact you GB were. And i was fucking prodictive, i have been all game long. Over anyone else. fifth is kinda hilarious because he uses "you saying i am 98% scum is useless and stupid crap" as a reason to scumread me when my answer is literally an answer to his stupid question. Stupid questions get stupid answers. sixth is just fucking rofl. Like me saying i am town makes me mafia. Okay right. seventh..... ugh i don't even care anymore, i have been pushing an agenda he thinks is townie all game long, and now i am scum for it. this guy is hilarious. On September 05 2015 11:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 11:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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It is an attitude thing. I have played on VS where people tended to post nothing important on D1 before i started playing there. You can usually tell if people are just "hanging around" and most likely town, or mafia who try to say something even semi-game related.
I thought that was what Breshke was doing (the latter), but i was probably wrong.
I don't see anything wrong in Moosy's early posting.
If you have something you feel like i should re-look in a different light please let me know. I understand what you were saying about Breshke. I just think that on early game you can't pick a single post and assume the guy is simply "posting just to post". But if you see the guy doing it in a series of posts, then this would be a hard evidence. Let me show you posts that I think illustrates this better: + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. I'm hating everything you post. Have you ever listend to Eminem - Guts Over Fear? He's definitely lost skill but I like his message better nowadays. On September 05 2015 08:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear final anwer, are you claiming a vigilante or not? I am + Show Spoiler + can u be serious plzerino On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:9. like u can just scroll thru instead of asking miss. On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. On September 05 2015 08:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eminem - No love
oldie but goodie On September 05 2015 08:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:42 CopCake wrote:
How exactly "rayn calmed down" when I got in?
Couldn't he just calmed down on his own? I was being a funny punny. Zebrahead is actually pretty good too tbh. I like "Falling Apart" the most. On September 05 2015 08:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:HI NOOBKING OMG I LOVE U On September 05 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing n00bKing. Just a question: Are you mafia? Like, the last post, especially. Why he asks that to noobking? What answer does he expect? mmm...I consider myself the best person in this game to read n00bKing rite now so i know what im doing sir. and everything else i've been doing actually does make sense too. btw have u listened to Eminem - Mockingbird? it's so sad but gr8 m8. kinda funny because the bird got its name for sounding like its mocking people when it's actually not. I don't like Eminem. What did you get from his answer then? im guessing this was the question. 1. eminem doesn't like u. 2. i already said this but n00bKing is town. he's acting like his town game rite now although it would help if u guys stopped antagonizing him. like don't worry he's probably working on a big case right now because that's what he does. he asks a bunch of questions then writes a big case. the reason why rayn probably doesn't know this is because he was in the game where n00bKing was scum and didn't do this. 3. also, the point of me asking him was to set a rapport. the biggest tell in n00bking's scum game is how he posts. he posts more friendly/has more rapport as a scum. however, what he did was respond and then got to business straight away. this leads me to believe him as a town as he focused straight away after acknowledging me. and it's natural for him to acknowledge me because i've been in all of his past games and we've done some good work together. Why can't noobking do point 3 as mafia? n00bking is one of those players that are really bad at faking things as mafia. it was my mistake to not realize it in retrospect but i've learned from that game. I am actually asking because from what i remember it's not the thing of "being bad at faking stuff". It's the thing of being unable to understand if the people who know something better (in this case other people - like me/yamato/slam here, or like Rels in the last game) say something there is probably something behind it. Like if people who know certain people better than he does call them mafia/town, he is jsut incapable of even aknowledging the fact he could be wrong and the rest of the people are right (which btw goes against this): The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. On September 05 2015 12:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey slam can you make an mspaint picture of how town you are in this game? I discounted those on my own, I had 11 
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect
On September 05 2015 14:34 n00bKing wrote:
No one gives a shit about this 9 posts vs 3 posts, 4 posts vs 3 posts, 11 posts vs 3 posts crap. Knock it off.
Like no way in hell alakazam and noobking are mafia together
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On September 06 2015 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town Basically, these are summary with lazy reads. Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town. Then he fucks off. Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new. have you ever read any games of his? i suggest you go read one.
Rayn, yes, I've lynched him even when he got a green check. I shouldn't give him leeway for that, tho. I find him scummy.
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On September 05 2015 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:16 Tictock wrote:Advisory Message from Alliance Command
We of the Central Planets would like to remind all people living out on the Rim Worlds that in order for transmissions (especially those carrying voting data) to be received that they must be made on the proper channel. The channel that is open for use in your sector is tl.net.nsm014
Please also remember to observe the proper protocol in submitting you messages so that our filtering programs do not discard your transmission with the rest of the background radiation. It's a "reminder" in a fluff. Give this guy a medal. Meh, I'm voting slam.
Okay so why are you voting slam?
Moosy trying to solve the game - unlike his mafia games - townlean
I saw this post at page 21 from Alakaslam -
On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:22 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
I might be doing that thing where im stopping people pressure people but i can't help it when someones post gets misunderstood and its going to take like 6 years for it to get worked out on its own Nah, don't worry about it. I also have a tendency to clear up miscommunications between players, and I think it's generally a good thing. Then you at least make sure that the thread doesn't get cluttered up with people just talking past each other, and that if someone is going to scumread somebody else, it'll be because of what they said or did, instead of just what someone *thought* they said or did. So by all means, clear up misunderstandings between myself and rayn. And that won't keep me from being able to pressure him. Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray. If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you? Granted I have no memory of you, so fish mah man Rayn has meta reason as strong as my real reason for being away. Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity. He is a townread. Yamato another townread. Still reading.
And I did not like it - so I filter dived - this post is the only that only is more then one line -
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.
Which says very little and bashing on Rayn who is my top townread at the moment -
And now I see GB voting me - but says very little about this
On September 05 2015 13:56 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh I'm voting scott
##vote:scott Why If you leave I will suspicious of you agai
My thoughts right now - but from what I watched of Slam he wouldn't put himself out here this easily, almost a townlean in a way - not a D1 lynch
D1 lynches right now are GB and N00bking and voting n00bking
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On September 06 2015 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town Basically, these are summary with lazy reads. Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town. Then he fucks off. Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new. have you ever read any games of his? i suggest you go read one. Rayn, yes, I've lynched him even when he got a green check. I shouldn't give him leeway for that, tho. I find him scummy.
meh actually you may have a point. sorry.
but i think his vote is in the right place atm so i don't care about him right now.
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On September 05 2015 12:01 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:tell him he is just as bad as nordlending that was the most obvious attempt at pocketing. copcake is playing up the noob/buddy ante really hard rite now. I am not pocketing anyone, me and rayn are friends already. Pockting would be me trying to seduce a player I dont know.
This post screams at me for some reason - what is the town agenda here? It reminds me of VE or others posting "i'm fucking town" -
On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......
I could buy this but no HIJOLE or his famous other town words...
Slam is actually trying in this game as well though - not a D1 lynch
On September 05 2015 13:20 GlowingBear wrote:
argh scott again has got a bad post and did nothing right after...
I'm kinda lost here tbf
On September 05 2015 13:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam what do you think of moosydoosy?
So what is bad about my post? Enlighten me...
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MoosyDoosy - town, wants to solve game
n00bKing - mafia -
CoughingHydra - null - even posted?
CopCake - slight townlean trying to solve
Alakaslam - really posty - tinfoil like Breshke - actually want to win or change it up?
Fidei86 - null - posts?
scott31337 - town
Superbia - a little townlean from what I read earlier started well died off
GlowingBear - OMGUS smoking crack voting me - mafia lean - not interested in solving
boxerfred - no posts?
yamato77 - townlean - doing his yamato town "meta"
Breshke - townlean - but posting wayyy too much - laid off or changing it up - townlean not D1 lynch
raynpelikoneet - town hero as usual - <3
Time to make sure I did not forget anybody
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Ok guys, I have to out irl, I will be back in an hr I think but I won't last more than 1:30 hrs.
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11589 Posts
not convinced on moosy townleans tbh
weird obsession with copcake reads off
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On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.
First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).
shit post - page 30
On September 06 2015 00:26 CoughingHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.
First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv). 1. hello, how are you today? 2. copcake is a girl 3. summary posts of what happened are generally useless as we all should have read the thread anyway. much more productive to pick out some posts u didn't like and then point them out to create more discussion.  just some advice. 4. on that note, please go into detail about breshke. try and find posts which you thought were scum-lean and made you suspicious of him 5. harbor thoughts on copcake as well because i do not like her posting. 1. Fine, thank you! I'm still  , imho this thread is already too much spam : P 2. Pardon me, correcting to "with her funky posting" 3. Ah thanks, I did read that somewhere I believe, probably in some guide. I did it because it was a relatively long time span after the discussion and I didn't participate in the said discussion(s). 4. Mostly this post Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.
Reminds me of the first (probably only) scum lynch i ever pushed in my like 3rd game on kush.
GB might remember it not that its relevant. There was no legit case so he maybe tried to push a lynch. Afterwards though he seemed fine. 5. The main thing I don't like with her is she spams to much irrelevant stuff... spam
another shit post
I see this post from boxer
On September 06 2015 00:53 boxerfred wrote:
Hello guys, just chiming in to say "yo I'm here". Currently reading up the thread, I got like 1-2 hours time as of now. Are there any questions directed to me in a direct way? Really willing to contribute here but I don't have much time until monday.
filter dive
Nothing else - could lynch boxerfred as well
On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.
There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. The amount of bad in this post is over 9000. rayn is really, really obviously town and his reads are pretty reasonable unless you're going to make the asinine case that he and I are mafia together and hard townread each other 2 hours into D1, you should probably stop complaining about his read on me For the record, rayn and I ARE working together, as town is supposed to do. You're the one impeding cooperation, if in fact you are town, by insisting that one of us is reading the other incorrectly (namely by saying that rayn is mafia for his read on me which is laughable) Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 11:54 CopCake wrote:
Rayn soneji killed you in the other game.
I am laughing so hard. OK I DON'T LIKE COPCAKE RITE NOW. posts like these are actually +town for any given player, in general Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:11 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray.
If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you? Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator. I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another.
Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity.
Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol Yet you've managed only to ruffle feathers this game I'd say you're failing massively in the do anything but piss off rayn department. Notably, your last few posts I've seen before this one are quite meaningless. Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:47 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 14:36 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was. Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.
First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv). >______________> I have few townreads, Slam, Rayn, Cop, Breshke Superbia hasn't posted since the start; moosy posts irrelevant things and calls cake mafia for ? reasons; GB votes lurkers and says not much meaningful about the game - all null given their relative activity noobking is pretty scummy given his posting but at least it's consistent. he is ultra wrong tho no one else has done/said anything I find meaningful
Good post from yamato - more town love here
On September 06 2015 02:21 CopCake wrote:
How am I funky?
Why does it matter if I dissapeared and it was too early? It was friday night and i am west coast.
Ate post - I do not like - -- ... copcake just say it.
Another shit post
On September 06 2015 02:25 CopCake wrote:
Also my gender doesn't matter.
ANDDDDDDDDDDD
Lol moosy being like
what do you think of cake and noobking?
then when someone talks about other two people in the next two psots he is like
what do you think of gb and alakazam?
seriously are you just going to spend the whole game asking for other people reads and don't make your own but like attack me for shitty silly stuff you are also doing?
LOL ok.
On September 06 2015 02:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, yamato is probably town
Where do you come up with this - and this probably GB mafia agenda?
Yeah - def Scumlean on you and not for OMGUS when Boxer and others have not posted.
Why can't we ever be on the same team?
On September 06 2015 02:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town Basically, these are summary with lazy reads. Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town. Then he fucks off. Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new.
Glowingbear just let me know what else you want to know and talk more about.
I hear town Palmar talking to me right now - and we both say you are mafia.
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On September 06 2015 02:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote:
In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town Basically, these are summary with lazy reads. Yamato doing shit = town. That was way too fast and yamato wasn't doing much. He called me drunk/high just to discredit me and then called me null. He calls noobking bad but does not vote him. He gives no reason to call Rayn town. Then he fucks off. Just looks like a Mafia trying to contribute while saying nothing new.
Mafia.
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On September 06 2015 03:22 yamato77 wrote:
not convinced on moosy townleans tbh
weird obsession with copcake reads off
Well then enlighten me because you and rayn apparently play with her a lot. Is this what she normally does?
Because to an outsider, it looks a hella like a bunch of filler posts/sheeping people/pocketing people.
Also, I am in no way obsessed with her right now. If I were I would be pushing for her lynch hard but rayn is holding me back and I'm inclined to believe him.
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On September 06 2015 03:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 03:22 yamato77 wrote:
not convinced on moosy townleans tbh
weird obsession with copcake reads off Well then enlighten me because you and rayn apparently play with her a lot. Is this what she normally does? Because to an outsider, it looks a hella like a bunch of filler posts/sheeping people/pocketing people. Also, I am in no way obsessed with her right now. If I were I would be pushing for her lynch hard but rayn is holding me back and I'm inclined to believe him.
BTW it's easier for town if you don't use pronouns and say you are speaking of, MoosyDoosy when you filter dive when you search.
What seems off to you?
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