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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 18:46 GMT
#641
On September 06 2015 03:41 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 03:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 03:22 yamato77 wrote:
not convinced on moosy townleans tbh

weird obsession with copcake reads off

Well then enlighten me because you and rayn apparently play with her a lot. Is this what she normally does?

Because to an outsider, it looks a hella like a bunch of filler posts/sheeping people/pocketing people.

Also, I am in no way obsessed with her right now. If I were I would be pushing for her lynch hard but rayn is holding me back and I'm inclined to believe him.


BTW it's easier for town if you don't use pronouns and say you are speaking of, MoosyDoosy when you filter dive when you search.

What seems off to you?

do you mean if i have thoughts from filter diving on everyone?

if so, the only people that strike out to me right now are Hydra and Copcake. Everyone is basically in the null/inactive group except for rayn/yamato who are the first into my townie circle. n00bKing is in a ??? category for me because I'm reading him as town but everyone else isn't for some reason.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 18:47 GMT
#642
Scott, wouldn't it be easier if you'd cobsolidate your reads in one post instead of going through the topic and post reads and re-adapt them as you go?

Meh, I don't know. I don't like what you're doing, although I think your reads make sense
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 18:48 GMT
#643
Ok, I'm voting noobking.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 18:48 GMT
#644
GB, where is scott for you? null, mafia lean, or town lean?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 18:52 GMT
#645
On September 06 2015 03:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, where is scott for you? null, mafia lean, or town lean?


Null/scummy. I don't like his posts because it just looked like he was trying to contribute while saying nothing + his constant posting looked like he was trying to look productive while actually just cluttering the thread. In the other hand he looks scummy as hell when he is town and his reads are making sense. His play here looks like his play in our last game.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 18:53 GMT
#646
On September 06 2015 03:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Scott, wouldn't it be easier if you'd cobsolidate your reads in one post instead of going through the topic and post reads and re-adapt them as you go?

Meh, I don't know. I don't like what you're doing, although I think your reads make sense


I was posting my townie thoughts along the way and adding my thoughts and quotes up in notepad.

Do you have any specific questions for me?

Is n00bking toast and you are bussing him now?

What about boxerfred, who's only made one post, why do you mention nothing of him?
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 18:54 GMT
#647
On September 06 2015 03:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 03:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, where is scott for you? null, mafia lean, or town lean?


Null/scummy. I don't like his posts because it just looked like he was trying to contribute while saying nothing + his constant posting looked like he was trying to look productive while actually just cluttering the thread. In the other hand he looks scummy as hell when he is town and his reads are making sense. His play here looks like his play in our last game.

mmm...ok
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 18:59 GMT
#648
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=n00bKing http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CoughingHydra
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CopCake
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=GlowingBear
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=boxerfred

I want GB or n00bking lynches though.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 19:02 GMT
#649
On September 06 2015 03:53 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 03:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Scott, wouldn't it be easier if you'd cobsolidate your reads in one post instead of going through the topic and post reads and re-adapt them as you go?

Meh, I don't know. I don't like what you're doing, although I think your reads make sense


I was posting my townie thoughts along the way and adding my thoughts and quotes up in notepad.

Do you have any specific questions for me?

Is n00bking toast and you are bussing him now?

What about boxerfred, who's only made one post, why do you mention nothing of him?


I have no questions for you since you read progression is clear to me. So there it is. Now is the time you say this is a scum tell of mine.
I make nothing out of boxer's post, neither Fidei's. These are guys who have just made one post.

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 19:07 GMT
#650
Who are your top three scumteam?

Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 05 2015 19:12 GMT
#651
On September 06 2015 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.

that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

[quote]

He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.

Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia?
Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.

Slam, i still want you to answer this. This post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2015 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.

that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

[quote]

He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.

Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia?
Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.

I can't see that world.

If noob was scum with bresh he would not defend me, he would vote me. Or he would tell bresh to stfu

... does not really answer anything.

Basically you are saying that "rayn went -BAM, votes for n00bking. That threw Breshke off".
Now if you assume Breske is mafia for that -> trying to find a different target because he got "thrown off" that has to mean n00bking is mafia, because otherwise there is no reason for Breshke to be "thrown off".

Like your argument is "Breshke is mafia because he got thrown off for rayn suddenly voting for a townie".
It makes literally no sense.

You are completely capable of pushing two town as town.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 05 2015 19:13 GMT
#652
On September 06 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear your vote isn't very good.

+1
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 05 2015 19:16 GMT
#653
Btw I am uncoting Breahke

After sleeping on it I was tinfoil
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 19:21 GMT
#654
On September 06 2015 04:07 scott31337 wrote:
Who are your top three scumteam?

Right now for me it's GB/N00bking/Boxerfred but that's too easy


I don't have a top three scumteam. I have people I could lynch for being lurky/slightly scummy. I'm not sure of anyone at this point.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 05 2015 19:45 GMT
#655
Am I still one of those people?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 19:49 GMT
#656
On September 06 2015 04:45 scott31337 wrote:
Am I still one of those people?


Yes. I think you're a better target than other active people.
I'm adorable.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 20:00 GMT
#657
Slam if you're around it would help if you would clarify this:
On September 05 2015 23:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Moist could be marshy, if I am actually hitting the nail on the head.

Which would explain things, and would make him (probably?) town

? I'm guessing I am the "Moist" you are referring to here? I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "marshy" as well.

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 05 2015 20:04 GMT
#658
Effective immediately, NocturneMage will be replacing in for CoughingHydra
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2015 20:04 GMT
#659
I'm here and pretty damn tired.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2015 20:05 GMT
#660
Also hi replacement.
Minimal effort.
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