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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:14 GMT
#601
ehh i don't get why CoughingHydra calls Breshke mafia(?) for his case on Slam, because anyone who has read the thread and actually thinks why people say what they do would know it's in fact my case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:15 GMT
#602
On September 06 2015 02:13 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.

yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here

I think he was the most towniest person besides you when he was here.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:21 GMT
#603
How am I funky?

Why does it matter if I dissapeared and it was too early? It was friday night and i am west coast.

MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:22 GMT
#604
On September 06 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect


I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?

basically slam said that u were suspecting him but was pushing n00bKing more:

On September 05 2015 13:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

FITE ME

PERFECT

COME TO YOUR DOOM


[image loading]

The old man will win


He looks pretty young to me.

There is a bear in the cage. Just FYI

Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.

It looked like a pressure vote.

Rayn was genuinely suspicious of me because of meta.

On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.

that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

[quote]

He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.


How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world.

It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob

But he actually was pushing me a lot

He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.

looking thru ur filter that looked to be the case, altho u did drop suspicion on slam rather quickly in this post.

On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

but ur response makes sense because i tone read slam as happy and mafia people are mostly sad so i don't think this is important.

in the quote where i said slam was town, breshke/n00bking were saying that slam was stating that rayn was using him to catch lazy mafia. but as both of u said, ur suspicion on slam was real, so what both of them were saying was false. agreeing with breshke/n00bking would have been the easy way out as he was coming off as town read from the interaction anyway, but he actually stuck to his story.

-shrugs- the reasoning is a bit convoluted but it works out if u look at it in context. either way, slam is town from both tone reads and thread proof.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:24 GMT
#605
On September 06 2015 02:13 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.

yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here

no i liked his list post before he left. he is a town lean imo.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:25 GMT
#606
Also my gender doesn't matter.

ANDDDDDDDDDDD

Lol moosy being like

what do you think of cake and noobking?

then when someone talks about other two people in the next two psots he is like

what do you think of gb and alakazam?

seriously are you just going to spend the whole game asking for other people reads and don't make your own but like attack me for shitty silly stuff you are also doing?

LOL ok.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:28 GMT
#607
On September 06 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect


I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?

basically slam said that u were suspecting him but was pushing n00bKing more:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

FITE ME

PERFECT

COME TO YOUR DOOM


[image loading]

The old man will win


He looks pretty young to me.

There is a bear in the cage. Just FYI

Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.

It looked like a pressure vote.

Rayn was genuinely suspicious of me because of meta.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.


How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world.

It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob

But he actually was pushing me a lot

He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.

looking thru ur filter that looked to be the case, altho u did drop suspicion on slam rather quickly in this post.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

but ur response makes sense because i tone read slam as happy and mafia people are mostly sad so i don't think this is important.

in the quote where i said slam was town, breshke/n00bking were saying that slam was stating that rayn was using him to catch lazy mafia. but as both of u said, ur suspicion on slam was real, so what both of them were saying was false. agreeing with breshke/n00bking would have been the easy way out as he was coming off as town read from the interaction anyway, but he actually stuck to his story.

-shrugs- the reasoning is a bit convoluted but it works out if u look at it in context. either way, slam is town from both tone reads and thread proof.

I know the bolded part is true but i disagree with the fact that Slam would do that (is that what you mean?).
He 100% knows where my suspicion on him came from.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:30 GMT
#608
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:31 GMT
#609
On September 06 2015 02:25 CopCake wrote:
Also my gender doesn't matter.

ANDDDDDDDDDDD

Lol moosy being like

what do you think of cake and noobking?

then when someone talks about other two people in the next two psots he is like

what do you think of gb and alakazam?

seriously are you just going to spend the whole game asking for other people reads and don't make your own but like attack me for shitty silly stuff you are also doing?

LOL ok.

miss those 2 posts were in seperate contexts kk? i would ask u to look back but i'll explain it as i've been doing for u this whole game.

i asked about cake and n00bKing to boxerfred because he was new to the thread and i wanted a fresh read on them. especially because i might be getting a bit too paranoid in my thinking on u and a bit too tunneled on thinking that n00bKing is town. i am trying to get some new reads.

however, the basis of me asking rayn about glowingbear x alakazam is because A. he has more meta on them than me so he can tell me what he thinks and B. this gives me a chance to line up my reads with his and do a cursory check for further confirmation that rayn is town.

my questions might seem dumb and superficial on the surface, but i do have a reason for them thank you very much. on the other hand, i don't see much reason behind ur posts other than to antagonize but i'm willing to give u the space to operate. okokok?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:33 GMT
#610
On September 06 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect


I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?

basically slam said that u were suspecting him but was pushing n00bKing more:

On September 05 2015 13:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

FITE ME

PERFECT

COME TO YOUR DOOM


[image loading]

The old man will win


He looks pretty young to me.

There is a bear in the cage. Just FYI

Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.

It looked like a pressure vote.

Rayn was genuinely suspicious of me because of meta.

On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
[quote]

Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

[quote]

[quote]

[quote]

Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
[quote]

He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.


How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world.

It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob

But he actually was pushing me a lot

He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.

looking thru ur filter that looked to be the case, altho u did drop suspicion on slam rather quickly in this post.

On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

but ur response makes sense because i tone read slam as happy and mafia people are mostly sad so i don't think this is important.

in the quote where i said slam was town, breshke/n00bking were saying that slam was stating that rayn was using him to catch lazy mafia. but as both of u said, ur suspicion on slam was real, so what both of them were saying was false. agreeing with breshke/n00bking would have been the easy way out as he was coming off as town read from the interaction anyway, but he actually stuck to his story.

-shrugs- the reasoning is a bit convoluted but it works out if u look at it in context. either way, slam is town from both tone reads and thread proof.

I know the bolded part is true but i disagree with the fact that Slam would do that (is that what you mean?).
He 100% knows where my suspicion on him came from.

yes, but i think this post made them think u read slam as town and was looking to catch a lazy mafia:

On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

which is false because u did genuinely suspect slam. and slam stuck to his story rather than using what breshke/n00bking thought as a way to cop-out which i liked.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:35 GMT
#611
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:36 GMT
#612
On September 06 2015 02:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect


I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?

basically slam said that u were suspecting him but was pushing n00bKing more:

On September 05 2015 13:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

FITE ME

PERFECT

COME TO YOUR DOOM


[image loading]

The old man will win


He looks pretty young to me.

There is a bear in the cage. Just FYI

Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Otherwise, he would be on Breshke's and mine skin before you.

It looked like a pressure vote.

Rayn was genuinely suspicious of me because of meta.

On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
[quote]
Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.


How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world.

It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob

But he actually was pushing me a lot

He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.

looking thru ur filter that looked to be the case, altho u did drop suspicion on slam rather quickly in this post.

On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

but ur response makes sense because i tone read slam as happy and mafia people are mostly sad so i don't think this is important.

in the quote where i said slam was town, breshke/n00bking were saying that slam was stating that rayn was using him to catch lazy mafia. but as both of u said, ur suspicion on slam was real, so what both of them were saying was false. agreeing with breshke/n00bking would have been the easy way out as he was coming off as town read from the interaction anyway, but he actually stuck to his story.

-shrugs- the reasoning is a bit convoluted but it works out if u look at it in context. either way, slam is town from both tone reads and thread proof.

I know the bolded part is true but i disagree with the fact that Slam would do that (is that what you mean?).
He 100% knows where my suspicion on him came from.

yes, but i think this post made them think u read slam as town and was looking to catch a lazy mafia:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

which is false because u did genuinely suspect slam. and slam stuck to his story rather than using what breshke/n00bking thought as a way to cop-out which i liked.

I don't think you get what i mean.
If Slam takes the cop-out as mafia he knows it will make me see theat he is bullshitting and then he will get lynched.

Other people might not know how i read Slam but Slam KNOWS how i read him so he cannot do anything else than to "stick with his story (truth)", otherwise he gives himself away to me.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:36 GMT
#613
Add coughing hydra into the scum list too.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:39 GMT
#614
On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.

Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia.
He is looking into other places in who is mafia.

There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion.

There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 17:41 GMT
#615
Ok, yamato is probably town
I'm adorable.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:43 GMT
#616
On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.

Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia.
He is looking into other places in who is mafia.

There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion.

There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.


Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you.

Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:44 GMT
#617
On September 06 2015 02:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.

Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia.
He is looking into other places in who is mafia.

There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion.

There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.


Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you.

Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check.

noobking
slam(?)
coughinghydra(?)

I don't have a "very mafia" read except for noobking.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 05 2015 17:45 GMT
#618
On September 06 2015 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:43 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.

Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia.
He is looking into other places in who is mafia.

There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion.

There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.


Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you.

Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check.

noobking
slam(?)
coughinghydra(?)

I don't have a "very mafia" read except for noobking.

Like i think everyone else is town except for james and boxerfred and even boxerfred is silghty leaning towards town for reasons i will not go more detail into at least yet.

GB is null just because i do not like his votes.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
September 05 2015 17:46 GMT
#619
Why is slam mafia?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 05 2015 17:49 GMT
#620
On September 06 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:43 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:35 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake what are your reads?
I heavily disagree with Moosy being mafia.


I disagree with you, moosy is being very hypocrite with his posts and he says i am antagonizing him when he is doing that to me, he is paying extremely TOO MUCH attention to me.

I also don't like how he just said "trying to confirm if rayn is town" like seriously you already are.

I don't like noobking either but he might just been having an ego attack and is being sturbborn, the whole "town would have reacted this way to gb claim" is fucking dumb.

Look, Moosy does not think any of the current lynch candidates are mafia.
He is looking into other places in who is mafia.

There is honestly not much you have said that should get you a townread to people who do not know you and your play (which is basically everyone other than me and yamato). It is not unreasonable for him to think you are mafia, in my opinion.

There is no reason to get into any shitfight because of this. He is not being a hypocrite, even if he is mafia in this game he isn't being a hypocrite here.


Ok I will call down with moosy and just trust you.

Now tell me who are your "very mafia" reads so I can go check.

noobking
slam(?)
coughinghydra(?)

I don't have a "very mafia" read except for noobking.

Like i think everyone else is town except for james and boxerfred and even boxerfred is silghty leaning towards town for reasons i will not go more detail into at least yet.

GB is null just because i do not like his votes.


What's wrong about my votes?
I'm pretty comfort with them for now.
I'm adorable.
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