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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 14:19 GMT
#581
On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.

First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).

1. hello, how are you today?
2. copcake is a girl
3. summary posts of what happened are generally useless as we all should have read the thread anyway. much more productive to pick out some posts u didn't like and then point them out to create more discussion. just some advice.
4. on that note, please go into detail about breshke. try and find posts which you thought were scum-lean and made you suspicious of him
5. harbor thoughts on copcake as well because i do not like her posting.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 14:55 GMT
#582
On September 05 2015 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Moist could be marshy, if I am actually hitting the nail on the head.

Which would explain things, and would make him (probably?) town

? I'm guessing I am the "Moist" you are referring to here? I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "marshy" as well.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
September 05 2015 15:26 GMT
#583
On September 05 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.

First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).

1. hello, how are you today?
2. copcake is a girl
3. summary posts of what happened are generally useless as we all should have read the thread anyway. much more productive to pick out some posts u didn't like and then point them out to create more discussion. just some advice.
4. on that note, please go into detail about breshke. try and find posts which you thought were scum-lean and made you suspicious of him
5. harbor thoughts on copcake as well because i do not like her posting.


1. Fine, thank you! I'm still , imho this thread is already too much spam : P
2. Pardon me, correcting to "with her funky posting"
3. Ah thanks, I did read that somewhere I believe, probably in some guide. I did it because it was a relatively long time span after the discussion and I didn't participate in the said discussion(s).
4. Mostly this post
On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.

Reminds me of the first (probably only) scum lynch i ever pushed in my like 3rd game on kush.

GB might remember it not that its relevant.

There was no legit case so he maybe tried to push a lynch. Afterwards though he seemed fine.
5. The main thing I don't like with her is she spams to much irrelevant stuff... spam
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 05 2015 15:53 GMT
#584
Hello guys, just chiming in to say "yo I'm here". Currently reading up the thread, I got like 1-2 hours time as of now. Are there any questions directed to me in a direct way? Really willing to contribute here but I don't have much time until monday.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 16:26 GMT
#585
On September 06 2015 00:53 boxerfred wrote:
Hello guys, just chiming in to say "yo I'm here". Currently reading up the thread, I got like 1-2 hours time as of now. Are there any questions directed to me in a direct way? Really willing to contribute here but I don't have much time until monday.

there's no way to read you when you've literally done nothing so far. but i am interested in knowing what your thoughts on CopCake and n00bKing are.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 16:37 GMT
#586
On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.

that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen?

This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum.

And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though...


He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.

Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia?
Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.

Slam, i still want you to answer this. This post:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 05 2015 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.

that's not actually true.


Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read

On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.


On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?


On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

[quote]

He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.


Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.

I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.


Im kinda getting confused here.

Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him

On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.

The why doesn't he fucking clarify it?
Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else.

Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII?
Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it.


He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e.

If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone

##Vote Alakaslam

Mafia.

What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment.

Another reason my Rayn respect is high.


Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.


I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.

What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.

Dude is this your first time being scum?

For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about.

This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched.

Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are.

Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me.

That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think.

Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.

Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia?
Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.

I can't see that world.

If noob was scum with bresh he would not defend me, he would vote me. Or he would tell bresh to stfu

... does not really answer anything.

Basically you are saying that "rayn went -BAM, votes for n00bking. That threw Breshke off".
Now if you assume Breske is mafia for that -> trying to find a different target because he got "thrown off" that has to mean n00bking is mafia, because otherwise there is no reason for Breshke to be "thrown off".

Like your argument is "Breshke is mafia because he got thrown off for rayn suddenly voting for a townie".
It makes literally no sense.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 16:43 GMT
#587
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 16:46 GMT
#588
On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?

That's not really wise. If he thinks i am mafia he should argue why i am mafia instead of arguing why other people are mafia.

Which he isn't doing. And i have already answered every single point he has brought up on me. He doesn't even argue about that..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 16:51 GMT
#589
On September 06 2015 00:53 boxerfred wrote:
Hello guys, just chiming in to say "yo I'm here". Currently reading up the thread, I got like 1-2 hours time as of now. Are there any questions directed to me in a direct way? Really willing to contribute here but I don't have much time until monday.

There are arguments against me, noobking and alakaslam atm.
Can you go read them and give your opinions on them?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 16:53 GMT
#590
GlowingBear your vote isn't very good.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 16:56 GMT
#591
On September 06 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?

That's not really wise. If he thinks i am mafia he should argue why i am mafia instead of arguing why other people are mafia.

Which he isn't doing. And i have already answered every single point he has brought up on me. He doesn't even argue about that..

Yes, but at times n00bKing can get a bit too focused on one person which becomes the lynchpin of his argument. I just want to know where he would look if he thought that you weren't Mafia for one moment.

Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 17:00 GMT
#592
On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?

That's not really wise. If he thinks i am mafia he should argue why i am mafia instead of arguing why other people are mafia.

Which he isn't doing. And i have already answered every single point he has brought up on me. He doesn't even argue about that..

Yes, but at times n00bKing can get a bit too focused on one person which becomes the lynchpin of his argument. I just want to know where he would look if he thought that you weren't Mafia for one moment.

Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.

I have a problem with what i just asked Alakaslam, i kinda can understand his other stuff. Except that when he was catching up he somehow completely ignored me, which i would think he would not do as town.

idk about GB, he's been better after the start, but i think his vote is terrible. I don't think scott is mafia, he is a low-volume poster and gets lynched for it in almost all the games for no reason. His post was good.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:05 GMT
#593
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:06 GMT
#594
i did read ur filter btw but i just want to make sure about your stance on Alakaslam earlier.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 17:07 GMT
#595
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 05 2015 17:09 GMT
#596
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
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On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 17:10 GMT
#597
On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?

Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.

Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia


ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect


I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 17:10 GMT
#598
On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:
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On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.

The amount of bad in this post is over 9000.

rayn is really, really obviously town and his reads are pretty reasonable

unless you're going to make the asinine case that he and I are mafia together and hard townread each other 2 hours into D1, you should probably stop complaining about his read on me

For the record, rayn and I ARE working together, as town is supposed to do. You're the one impeding cooperation, if in fact you are town, by insisting that one of us is reading the other incorrectly (namely by saying that rayn is mafia for his read on me which is laughable)

On September 05 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 05 2015 11:54 CopCake wrote:
Rayn soneji killed you in the other game.

I am laughing so hard.

OK I DON'T LIKE COPCAKE RITE NOW.


posts like these are actually +town for any given player, in general

On September 05 2015 12:11 n00bKing wrote:
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On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray.

If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you?

Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator.

I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another.
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Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity.

Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol


Yet you've managed only to ruffle feathers this game

I'd say you're failing massively in the do anything but piss off rayn department.

Notably, your last few posts I've seen before this one are quite meaningless.

On September 05 2015 14:47 n00bKing wrote:
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On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:36 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.

Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs

On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.


Fucking LOL

pot, kettle, black

On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.

First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).


>______________>

I have few townreads,

Slam, Rayn, Cop, Breshke

Superbia hasn't posted since the start; moosy posts irrelevant things and calls cake mafia for ? reasons; GB votes lurkers and says not much meaningful about the game - all null given their relative activity

noobking is pretty scummy given his posting but at least it's consistent. he is ultra wrong tho

no one else has done/said anything I find meaningful
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 17:12 GMT
#599
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 17:13 GMT
#600
On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.

yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here
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