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On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already.  Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit
you should probably stop posting right about now
if you're town, you're arguing with town rayn
if you're mafia you're going to get lynched over rayn 100 times out of 100
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On September 05 2015 09:00 scott31337 wrote:
Fucking town - I wanted to be mafia with Fidei and someone else - We'd bus the shit out of #3 and claim our victory.
is this the only thing you feel is worth saying at the moment or...?
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On September 05 2015 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. I'm hating everything you post.
Have you ever listend to Eminem - Guts Over Fear?
He's definitely lost skill but I like his message better nowadays.
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On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions.
I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not?
Of course I agree with the rest but still it was early like i don't see it as that much of a distraction. I don't care to defend GB too much here though because he has seemingly just pissed off now.
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On September 05 2015 09:02 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? I do agree on breshke. GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw. I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised.
mmm...
idk what to think of this noobking guy though. I have a hard time evaluating how he actually views people's abilities and play as he said some really dumb stuff in the last NSM game i played. Like he sure has a big ego, just don't know yet. He should be fairly obvious if he is scum though a bit later.
nothing much else to say at this point, i kinda like how Moosy is playing, not necessarily what he says, at least 100%.
Superbia is probably town.
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On September 05 2015 08:55 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing n00bKing. Just a question: Are you mafia? If the Mafia finds out I'm Town, they might kill me on Night 1 again. So I would rather keep my allegiance a secret. But okay...IF I have read my role PM (and I'm not saying I have) then it said I was not Mafia.
yaya let's do this together. :D
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On September 05 2015 09:02 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? I do agree on breshke. GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw. I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised.
I'm a god as any alignment.
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On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not?
Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me.
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Guys I am about, but it's Friday and I went out drinking with buddies. Last time I entered a thread drunk, I nearly got lynched. So I will read and post reactions tomorrow I promise.
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On September 05 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not? Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me.
wait...so ur saying u would have believed gb's claim?? I thought it was pretty clear that he HAD to be joking.
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On September 05 2015 09:03 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit you should probably stop posting right about now if you're town, you're arguing with town rayn if you're mafia you're going to get lynched over rayn 100 times out of 100
Yamato, tell me what you think of what I've just wrote.
I think Rayn is mafia. I'm not trying to argue WITH him. I'm trying to bring points which I think makes him mafia.
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On September 05 2015 09:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not? Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me. wait...so ur saying u would have believed gb's claim?? I thought it was pretty clear that he HAD to be joking.
I don't know what to believe when it comes to him. That's why i wanted him to clarify.
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On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit
It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you."
Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page.
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On September 05 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:38 Breshke wrote:
I think im going to just agree to disagree because i don't see how you could think GB was certain mafia after what he did and this isn't going anywhere. I do not think he is certain mafia. I think he has a 50% chance of being mafia if someone "counter-claims" him. This is a newbie game. Like the basics of this game, and how you prove yourself as town and help the town, are: 1) town benefits from clarity 2) town benefits from direction 3) town benefits from people working together Do you think anything Glowingbear has done is achieving either of these things? Because to me it looks like the opposite. And that's what MAFIA benefits from. Even if we go with the simplest thing basically everyone should know in this game; If i ask someone "are you really saying this", they should know i am being 100% serious and i want a serious answer because i don't like people playing around with stuff they should not. If they do not give me a serious answer, and they are town, it will relatively hinder the town's capabilities of finding mafia, because then i will be caught into something i can't make any sense out of. Because it DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. So yeah, there is pretty much no townie agenda behind Glowingbears actions. I still disagree. I don't think GB was being serious.Can i ask why you needed clarification in the first place? Why did it matter to you if GB was vigi or not? Because i want it to be 100% clear to everyone in the game, not just me.
mmk fair enough
On September 05 2015 08:38 CopCake wrote:
I don't like Breshke comment but first
Do I know you or have I played voice mafia with you?
Copcake I felt this implied you had a follow up after i answered. Does it?
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hmm maybe noobking is mafia after all.
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On September 05 2015 09:10 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you." Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page.
I've seem him coming with very contrived reasoning (calling rsoultin scum for not trusting his read on palmar), but I've never seen ALL his arguments being contrived.
I find opportunistic that he is ignoring me when I'm raising suspicions on him.
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On September 05 2015 09:10 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you." Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page.
Really? I actually thought that most of what GlowingBear wrote was garbage. But then again, I do tone reads and I like rayn's tone. Although I did think that it was weird that he's basing some of his reads on tone when he normally relies on more substantive stuff.
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On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years.
Okay, so from a meta-read standpoint, help me out here:
Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves.
"Active" doesn't make someone Town, and "loud" especially doesn't make someone Town.
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness.
If he has a penchant for being bothered by silliness, that's his fault, not mine. You should applaud me for giving him some practice at controlling himself. 
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On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it.
On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it.
A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean.
More Breshke walls of text -
GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite
On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote:
Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn
Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote:
I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow.
Good information but I'm already blitzed.
N00bking's posts bad like last game.
He's my worst right now.
Rayn town
Yamato doing shit - town
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On September 05 2015 09:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:10 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit It's true that everything rayn is saying there is bullshit. And I agree with everything you said in this post EXCEPT for: "I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you." Because *I* find it hard to believe that you've not seen retarded reasoning from him before. But for the rest of it, we're on the same page. Really? I actually thought that most of what GlowingBear wrote was garbage. But then again, I do tone reads and I like rayn's tone. Although I did think that it was weird that he's basing some of his reads on tone when he normally relies on more substantive stuff.
And what do you make of my garbage posting?
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