[M][T] The New Personality Mafia - Page 4

On August 21 2015 07:30 The Shining wrote:


Then lynch me. I don't understand how Tube is confirmed town.

On August 21 2015 07:36 Fidei86 wrote:
Yeah ... I mean, I'm not sure how much the "Chezinu bloc" means if/until Chezinu flips. Obviously if he does ever flip mafia, then we'll have to go back and look carefully at who voted when and what the vote count was at that point.

On August 21 2015 18:05 Rels wrote:
@geript why Breshke isn't in your lurker list when Chez is ?

On August 19 2015 10:18 ritoky wrote:
We should lynch Fidei

After reviewing the game, I have arrived at the same place. Fidei is the best candidate for lynch both objectively and subjectively.

The Objective Case:

RNG has selected fidei, he is mafia. If you need an explanation of how he was selected please reference my filter. Outside of that RNG is PARTICULARLY suited for this game. This is a closed setup, and historically in closed setups there is an incredibly strong likelihood that there are more anti-town players than are normally in an open setup. So with that alone our probability of hitting mafia from RNG has already increased by a significant margin. However, there is more. We are playing a game in which people are attempting to act like other people and mask their own play as someone else's. This means that day 1 reads and particularly day 1 meta reads have a diminished rate of accuracy. Meaning RNG is the optimal line of play. A situation with increased odds of hitting mafia and diminished validity of meta reads clearly points to RNG being the objective best line of play.

The Subjective Case:

Outside of RNG declaring fidei mafia, he is actually mafia. Consider his posting thus far:



There are 3 aspects to this post that I would like to highlight:

1) The most classic mafia play ever: "Notice me senpai -> excuse about activity". His final sentence has no point other than to say hi I am here and fade away.

2) He is drunk or at least partially. This is important because drunk people are more prone to letting slip things or not being careful with their wording. Will be revisited later.

3) His immediate entrance response into the thread is to seek out me and essentially claim a personality to me in a very half-assed manner. First and foremost there is not point to this because he knows who I am and once RNG has declared him mafia, appeals to emotion are pointless only hard logic can deter me. Secondly, it may be coincidence but singling out the only person calling him mafia and appealing to them directly reads as an over-response to pressure. And finally the half-assed imitation. This will require some explanation.

I think people who are committing heavily to trying to act the part of the player they got rolled into and are sticking to it for a decent portion of time are very likely to be town. I feel that it is a risky play to play in a manner unlike yourself and in one that could potentially draw lynch attention to you for not playing "serious". Mafia are averse to both risk and lynch pressure on day 1, and thus would be less apt to fully commit to acting the part of someone else. I do not necessarily read legitimate frustration with the game type or completely ignoring who you rolled as scum though, I don't think the converse works. However, the half-ass attempts read as scum to me because it seems as if it is a mere "LOL"/attention grab for a few moments for them or a tool to further their agenda. This is the area fidei falls into in my mind.

Continuing on, and credit to Tubesock on the find here:







This goes hand in hand with point #2 from above, that fidei is drunk. He made an obvious error that speaks for itself. I can elaborate further, but I feel these consecutive quotes are very self explanatory. Not only did tubesock find it important but so did others:





And what was fidei's response to this important question?



Ignoring it and complaining. I hate to break it to you, but this is a regular mafia game already, and this is a real accusation; and you really are mafia.

Fidei is objectively and subjectively the best lynch in the game, anyone not voting for him is taking a sub-optimal line of play and is bad.

On August 20 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him