Tropical Storm Mini Mafia

On August 11 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:
awww but truffle...this was supposed to be your game of ultimate fun and awesomeness to make up for your blaaaaah lol ><

On August 11 2015 11:07 rsoultin wrote:


but but but...serious is so boring, truffle wuffle :/

On August 11 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote:


oh noes ;o; you already caught me

i guess i concede -_-

On August 11 2015 11:12 rsoultin wrote:


unassailable logic, truffle. however do you do it? xP

On August 11 2015 11:16 rsoultin wrote:


lol asshole ><

i dream of the day i get n1'd!

oh, wait...

heh, well...doesn't look like this place is gonna get lively any time soon :/ hearthstone?

On August 11 2015 11:20 rsoultin wrote:
rayn 2.0

what do people like so much about being sweaty, anyway? just come to texas lol @.@ walk outside and it's an instant lather!

kk i guess i can entertain myself for awhile :/

On August 11 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:


If you are talking about this post, yes it is the one thing stopping me from having a strong town read on trfel.

With how much you played with trfel it is just weird for an early read.

On August 11 2015 13:45 Damdred wrote:
I don't think its strange to have any early reads in general honestly, I love early town reads.

I dislike some of the reasoning used because rsoultin can fake almost all of that stuff on the short term basis and usually heavily admits to being able to do these things as town.

Yet you have talked to RS and played a fair bit with her, and yet don't show the normal hesitance most people have in reading her and the reasons are shaky which isn't a point against you.

Rs response is also a bit odd honestly with not really pointing out what I thought she would of gleaned instead going somewhere else that doesn't make the read bad.

On August 11 2015 14:34 Damdred wrote:
Actually I wasn't referring to you making early reads on RS at all because I don't remember peoples read patterns or when they read them such and such. I was more talking about me tr people early generally and often so I don't hold that against you because I do it.

There's a difference between what rsoultin said about you being generally indecisive when it comes to making reads and me saying that your read lacks a bit of hesitance. One relays that you are unable to make a decision while the other gives a sense of not wanting to etc.

totally different in the context of what is being said.

On August 11 2015 14:11 Chezinu wrote:


(1) Trfel - Chezinu
(2) Chezinu - Trfel, Damdred

Have not Voted: raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], rsoultin, ruXxar, Palmar, prplhz, deconduo, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, Vivax

On August 11 2015 11:48 Damdred wrote:


kinda hope a big shoots chez XD so I can ignore him or hope he says smart things.

On August 11 2015 17:33 ruXxar wrote:


Meh, there's not much to go off, so I work with what I have.

I could start spamming the thread up to generate activity, but I don't feel like doing that right now.

On August 12 2015 00:55 VisceraEyes wrote:

I really disliked this post about why he's suspicious of Chezinu. Like he sought Damdred's opinion of Chez, and when he didn't bite he gave this as reasoning to dislike Chez. But like...what about this is suspicious? What about being "sensitive" makes Chezinu mafia?

Coupled with his turnaround on rsoultin, which in my opinion is too fast given A) he literally was just fooled by rsoultin and B) she hasn't done a whole lot in the game, and I think he's the most suspicious character in the game.

I don't really know what this means with regard to rsoultin and Chezinu, but I think Trfel is mafia.

##Vote: Trfel

On August 12 2015 01:35 Chezinu wrote:


Also note the time VE. I was stalking the forums and watching view counts before posts. They ignored me long time before posting. Never really addressed me. They couldn't vote me cause that would make me right with my count. They know the Chez Rule it seems. They avoided contact it seemed.

On August 11 2015 13:25 Trfel wrote:
Chezinu, I don't think it's a very good idea to seek protection from an umbrella in a thunderstorm.

On August 12 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
nah, damdy is town lol ><

On August 12 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think Ruxxar, Vivax and Rayn are town. Ruxxar because he's going all gung-ho on this Artanis/Palmar thing on Vivax and I've rarely seen mafia makes posts like this:

It's the kind of martyring confidence that only comes from town.

On August 12 2015 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I wanted to ask this earlier.
Trfel why do you say this?

On August 12 2015 01:14 Vivax wrote:
I might actually call this the day where I'm willing to apply the Chezinu rule. It's a common reaction for townies to scumread their scumreaders, it's also common to talk yourself into something if you feel like finding something (to the defense of Trfel). When you wield a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Also possible coming from townies, I'm awaiting Trfel (so you won't miss this) to tell me about his state of mind when he was trying to find reasons for Chez being scum.

On August 12 2015 02:15 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, when I was making that post on Chezinu, I felt like my posts were really suspicious. I was scared that Damdred would catch me, so that's why I asked for his opinion first so I could agree with it. When he didn't give any, I felt like if I just left I would look really scummy, so I just posted the first thing that came into my mind.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 12 2015 15:48 Chezinu wrote:


You were obviously responding to my message. I mentioned how fortunate it was that we could listen to the rain while under the protection of an umbrella. But then we could hear what was to come. *thunder*

You clearly don't fear the thunderstorm but umbrellas themselves. Who say it was a mere thunderstorm that was heading toward the beach?

Don't you know we are all the same? We are all tropical storms!!! Some want to land.... but others... we want to live with speed one the ocean waters! We want to survive longer. LANDING IS SUICIDE!!! DON'T DO IT!!! oh and be careful not to bump into eachother... I hear you may perish into a cane in a hurry! Just don't let anyone know your coordinates..aka don't let them know what them humans be calling you.

On August 12 2015 23:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I see Ruxx as being eager to post and continuously explaining his situation, fighting every argument being brought against him (in however poor way he's doing so) and attempting to contribute. A better way of putting it is that the what that he's been doing has been bad (and he has admitted to it as well) but the how he's doing it is so town that I'm very confident that he's town. The words I used were poorly chosen to make this clear but I could name examples of what I mean if you really want me to. I already put up an example earlier in my initial reads.

Is this the only reason you're scumreading me?

On August 13 2015 02:03 rsoultin wrote:


truffle wuffle...from what i can make out of ruxxar's post on artie, he came to the exact opposite conclusion you did. watcha think about that?

On August 13 2015 02:21 Chezinu wrote:
Mr. Truffle took 40 minutes to respond to my vote count. That was what I was referring to.

On August 13 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote:


you seem entirely unconcerned that he has a different read to yours?

On August 13 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:
essentially, truffle, even if you think that has no bearing on his alignment (and that would make sense, it being ruxxy lol ><) shouldn't you be trying to convince him of your point of view? or are you not interested in lynching artanis today?

On August 13 2015 02:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, since you suspect me, why don't you go over my list and question me on anything that stands out to you? At the very least, my read on you should be of interest.

On August 13 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
well

i'm still at

hopeless/condor/prp @artie

so...ye

any of those you want to lynch, truffle? i don't think i've ever seen artanis' scum game so i've no clue if he's just being super!scum here, but frankly his reads line up with mine enough that i've no interest in lynching him today

On August 13 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
not even scummy lurkers? lol ><

On August 11 2015 05:27 ruXxar wrote:


Inb4 all mafia are americans

On August 11 2015 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
Mm, of the people posting so far, trfel is most likely scum.
Didn't care for his reads post on rs at all tbh :/.
Felt too confident and almost made up as if he already knew her alignment and just poured on reasons to make it look legit.

I think damdy is town, rs is townish, chezinu is ?? No idea.

On August 11 2015 17:33 ruXxar wrote:


Meh, there's not much to go off, so I work with what I have.

I could start spamming the thread up to generate activity, but I don't feel like doing that right now.

On August 12 2015 00:22 ruXxar wrote:


Sounds like a plan.
The way it looks right now there's not much to do anyway.

On August 12 2015 01:12 ruXxar wrote:


I think rs alignment will become clear with time.
I just want to observe her and not interfere just yet.

I don't think trfel is towny at this point so I don't understand your question.
Are you calling me scum?

I think it's fine that people have differing opinions on trfel.
I'm naturally more suspicious of the people that disagree with me.

On August 12 2015 05:38 ruXxar wrote:
1) I'm not sure who scum are. If I knew then you'd see me tunneling them to hell and back.
I have some ideas, and I'm willing to explore them and see how people react when attacked.

2) Reads :

Town:

- Rayn
- Damdred
- VE gets a daypass.
- RS gets a daypass.

Scum:

-Trfel
- Vivax / hopeless. Leaning more towards hopeless.

On August 12 2015 05:54 ruXxar wrote:
We should lynch hopeless rider.

He's like 99% mafia imo.

On August 13 2015 03:14 Damdred wrote:
Have you even looked at his town games to see any differences

On August 13 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok but have you looked at any of his recent town games?

On August 13 2015 03:36 Damdred wrote:


so you are giving him scum points for being illogical? Unless I misunderstood?

On August 13 2015 04:57 ruXxar wrote:


I feel like this is a misrepresentation of my play.
In my opinion I've been interacting a lot, and have been adjusting reads and trying to consider different viewpoints.
I've been asking a decent amount of questions, even though some people refuse to answer.
I've also been pushing my reads which you can clearly see from the way the thread has been evolving.

The only thing here i agree with is that my critical thinking is not the sharpest.

On August 13 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote:
Cause ve isn't trying at all I guess. Do you tr him trfel?

On August 13 2015 09:50 Damdred wrote:
Trfel who are all your scum reads?

On August 13 2015 09:55 Damdred wrote:


all to me about art hoe suspicious of art

On August 13 2015 10:07 Damdred wrote:
You ninjas me.

But here's the follow up question. You seem pretty suspicious of art for multiple reasons but your vote on Dec sort of came out of the blue when you were talking about other things and a lot of people switched to him after art did, so why aren't you more suspicious that this could be a town lynch since someone you are suspicious of is helping head up the push.

On August 13 2015 10:32 Damdred wrote:


so you are voting against most of your tr and with scum reads/null reads? Mostly

On August 13 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:


>> dangerous

what do you mean you feel like me lol ><

On August 13 2015 10:55 rsoultin wrote:


-flicks- why don't you just answer the question instead of being a troll

On August 13 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:


damdred's

why voting condor over hopeless? the votecount you posted doesn't really clear that up any @.@

On August 13 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But Artanis is not mafia.

There is a certain difference in his play when he is scum. The way he addresses & acts towards me is either super hostile (in terms of he will either call me scum or just trash my reads with no real logic) or super buddy. In this game it's neither as while he disagrees with me on some things his criticism comes around as constructive and not a single bit bullshtitty. Like he is actually trying to work with me instead of how he does it as scum.

Also the fact that he lynched deconduo and what happened after that is townie. If Artanis is mafia here he should think that (1) when deconduo flips town rayn can call him scum, which is bad and (2) when deconduo flips town he basically has to give me the keys to wreck his scumteam because he can't just argue against me, it's a suicide.

So like, unless BOTH of Hopeless and Chezinu are town there is absolutely no reason why Artanis does what he did as mafia. And i think it's 100% impossible that they are both town, and 95% impossible that EITHER of them is town. Because otherwise i am missing too many things and there is just not fucking enough people who can be mafia.

On August 14 2015 14:42 ruXxar wrote:
<---- confirmed town right here.

On August 14 2015 15:04 ruXxar wrote:


You silly.

I'm confirmed town

I was first to call hopeless scum, and voted him all day.

I was suspicious of people not wanting to lynch hopeless.

Af night I heavily encouraged people to storm vote hopeless.

I was also right on VE, my alignment test on him worked as I expected.

I'd like to see someone try to push scum on me after this.

On August 14 2015 15:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So in fact you have zero idea?

On August 14 2015 15:24 ruXxar wrote:


You better answer this real quick or im lunching you today chez.

On August 14 2015 15:24 Trfel wrote:
It's not terribly hard to understand. In fact, it's all on this page.

On August 15 2015 08:48 ruXxar wrote:
Chez is mafia. It's undeiniable. I gave him the chance to clear himself bny giving me names of his 2 scumreads.

Unfortunately such things above chezinu,

I know, and rayn knows that chezini is mafia.

Anyone else disagreeing is goin to have to prove why they're right,

Sorry chez but I gave you the chance to claim yoursself as the one try town guy,
You didn't take the chance, and now it's too late

On August 15 2015 14:49 Trfel wrote:
And why does this make him mafia?

I still need to read his filter, but of all the reasons to scumread Chezinu, this seems like the worst one...

On August 15 2015 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like this is the post i am talking about. There is so much wrong in this post.

On August 16 2015 02:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Like I said, I think it holds some water and makes it less likely for him to be mafia, but Rayn's case is good enough to easily overcome that. Especially the part about Trfel 'forgetting'/downgrading his scumread on RuXx in his reads post when he'd been on him before is damning. I don't think town Trfel acts like that.

On August 16 2015 02:34 Damdred wrote:
I still think rayn is town, just tinfoil. So don't get offended rayn and start pouting.

And Trfel scum game is a bit different then what you are used to Rux... its hit and miss honestly if its great trfel scum or bad scum trfel.

But it is what it is,

I kinda prefer a prp lynch now that I think about it though.

On August 16 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I thought you had more than two scum games idk I didn't check your profile. And stop lying you always think i'm ridiculous or scum.

IDK if it is a real change for chez though this is just how he is when he plays.

On August 16 2015 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Prplhz
Are you trying to get lynched?

On August 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Yes, but it was connected to Chez being scum (which I had him on due to PoE). It'd be a much weaker connection if his scum partner was someone that's doing well.

I still think there's good arguments for him to be town but there's better arguments for him to be scum.

On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

guys just read this.
meh meh meh...

On August 16 2015 09:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am telling you all right now that prplhz will not flip mafia.

so do what you must. he will not flip mafia.

On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together.
Then you think they're both scum.
Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum.
What?

On August 16 2015 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I can't imagine that you wouldn't have thought of the argument of prplhz simply having a bit more motivation than expected as you read the argument unless you were not using any critical thinking whatsoever.

On August 16 2015 09:20 ruXxar wrote:


So you think chezinu, with fully being able to choose a train with no repercussions, chose to bus his teammate instead of voting for you?

If prpl is mafia I don't see how chezinu can be if he keeps his vote on prpl.

On August 16 2015 05:02 geript wrote:
Vote Count

Chezinu (1): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred, Trfel
Trfel (3): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, rsoultin
rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp]
prplhz (4): Damdred, Artanis[Xp], ruXxar, Trfel

Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Vivax

Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
Day 2 ends on August 16 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in

On August 16 2015 09:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You have been similarily useless/not present today though. Also, I don't think there was ever a chance Hopeless wasn't getting stormed last night and I'm pretty sure prplhz knew that so I don't really buy that as an explanation.