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On July 26 2015 02:41 rsoultin wrote:
:/ i disagree with you on both those reads, gb
i've been kinda more hands-off this game as well cause my hands-on game is super spammy. what do you think about the rest of his play?
as for clarity, i don't like him because he has no opinion, just is sheeping, then he demands me for mine on the player he has no opinion on? he complains about no one posting or progressing the thread without progressing the thread. and then he disappears as soon as snickers starts tunneling...it seems like he's posting just to post to me
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On July 25 2015 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Sheeping rayn before he tunnels me. I agree Hopeless opening post looks forced.
##Vote Hopeless1der
Onegu named town I think claiming d1 is standard thing to do so it's whatever, basically am miller claim.
This snickers guy is pretty cool
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it's a problem with the strength of the read not lining up with his behavior. why is he trying to champion this lynch? i probably would have voted for hopeless already if his behavior surrounding the lynch wasn't making me twitchy
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On July 26 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 06:26 rsoultin wrote:
@oneg
as much as i trust any claim from you xP
it's a little surprising how often you use the same arguments against me when they've been proven false before and you've seen me get angry/frustrated so many times, but whatever lol >< i don't think that makes you scum, just illogical
current lynch list in order of preference: clarity, hopeless, bf, tofu
i've got at least shit reasons to lean town/townread everyone else
not lynching: ksc, palmar, snickers, rayn
yay \o/ You normally arent this hostile this early...
ye well -_- snickers
i don't really appreciate his purposeless opening digs
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lol bf's out of my to lynch list
i'd contest that some of rayn's early pushes and the more collaborative nature of them could be considered a "good start", disregarding the "claim", and don't really think that scott looks that bad this game though, dude
also, much as i can't say that i've appreciated all of snickers' posting, i do think he's town and i'm not going to lynch a townread just because he's aggravating
i really like your point on gb though, bf, because it reminded me that gb was ready to read clarity as town for "reaction testing" or whatever, and being the king of such "reaction tests" himself, i find it quite odd that he didn't interpret rayn's initial post similarly like i would assume most players did
considering i'm town and at least leaning town on the others, snickers, i think you're way off-base xP
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@snickers
'cause the entirety of the post seemed like it was coming from a towny mindset to me; he's noting down discrepancies and trying to look into how people are approaching their reads, i don't have an insanely high expectation for bf after just seeing his town game but he's met the threshold for not being my d1 lynch
oneg most likely town. it is pretty standard to claim named vt from the get-go, oneg may even be fake-claiming it as town cause he loves to pull that sort of thing, but i don't see him doing it as scum without knowing if there's someone who could cc him. plus, as i said, that "anger" read thing that he has on me he's stated before as town so i'm pretty sure he believes it
not to mention you're being doltish anyway by thinking that because you mention that i'm pissed, it's the same as him saying specifically that i tend to be more angry as scum than town
are you townreading clarity?
if you are, why?
@gb
yeah, no. you're focusing on something pretty damn irrelevant. there is nothing that says someone can't try to make a play to start discussion and still want to hang back a bit to see what fruit it bears. your "contradiction" isn't even a real contradiction, and there's really no huge deal about him opening with that post to begin with; you've opened with far less useful shit in the past. i don't think it makes you scum, per se, but i think bf noticing it makes it more likely that he is town
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On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? This post is SO bad. It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum Palmar, address to this. This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.
meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town?
cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP
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On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."
he's done it too much as town for that to mean anything? like, i have a way to read him but it requires a little more time than this lol >< and it's still in it's early stages but it bore fruit last game
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On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 12:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? This post is SO bad. It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum Palmar, address to this. This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me. meh, maybe, but you think it's more likely for annoyed scum to say he wants to lynch you even though stupid doesn't make you scum? or annoyed town? cause yeah, i perfectly understand his sentiment. i feel the same way about snickers. i won't lynch him, but i'd be happy to have him out of the game xP That puts snickers, or even Scott, on the chopping block. I've done nothing to annoy him other than calling him Mafia for fair reasons. Plus he says he doesn't like me. Then he says it's because I'm stupid. Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway. It's not that he could not do that as annoyed town, is that there is no reason to be annoyed with me in this game + it sounds more like he was okay with a lynch on me without having any reasons for lynching me. Then, when having the matter pushed, he couldn't find a fair reason to "not like" me. Why doesn't he like me? What I've being doing that is stupid? He fails to show that. The only townie thing I saw in his filter was what Palmar said about dismissing the possibility of shitting the thread, but he could also be trying to avoid getting more suspicions at him by dismissing a push, even if a bad push. I see nothing townie in him that takes him out of the lynch list like you did. I have yet to see what exactly makes him townie to your eyes that he is never getting lynched day1. Please tell me
yeah, well, i'm okay with lynching people i have no reasons to lynch, too xP it's called a null read
and yes, ksc is perfectly capable of being annoyed with stupidity in general. neither of us has much patience for it, and you aren't exactly known for being logical
look at his filter and his read progression
has he expressed irritation at stupid pushes on him? yes. is that the majority of his filter? no
he's clearly making reads and contributing and i really liked his push on tofu because i felt the same way reading tofu's response to palmar. plus i dunnae i think the aggression and bite in general is more likely to come from a town ksc than a scum one. scum worries about making friends. town just wants to solve the game xP
it's tonal but i'm fairly confident on it or i wouldn't have him in my strong townreads in the first place
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oh, btw obi
i kinda ignored your post on oneg cause i'm not really concerned with the lynch beyond this day phase right now...kinda goes without saying that everything needs to be reevaluated as the game progresses 
last post of the night...not sure where i'm at but i'm trying not to run away with posting before i run out of posts
i really want everyone to look into clarity though and tell me why they're townreading him if they are
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ye, i'm happy with a tofu lynch lol >< and i'll just keep repeating that i still think clarity is scum so people don't forget, since no one seems to really want to lynch him
hrum...scott, i guess my problem with scott is i feel like he's been lynched or at least strongly suspected for something similar before as town but it's one of those things i can't remember so well -_- i don't have a strong lean on him one way or another
though i kinda giggled at his explanation regarding giving the posts. i don't know if y'all noticed cause it wasn't well-articulated, but essentially he said that since ksc was whining about having to "waste" a post defending himself, he gave him posts, which is a type of assholeish sarcasm that amuses me
rayn's point is really good, though. if he's not reading rayn scum, where are the scummy voters coming from? i could have been too quick to like him just for being a dick? i dunnae :/
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palmar, can you talk to me about these tone things?
i just came from a game with bf (we both did, actually) and he definitely wasn't timid endgame there...bullheadedly illogical but not going to be swayed from his opinion by anyone, basically. though i can't remember if he started out that way or not; i'd have to check...i pay so much less attention when i roll scum lol ><
why do you think tofu's just bad? i'll admit the one thing giving me pause was there are certain players you just don't go against as scum (i know how ironic this is after my last scum game lol ><), and assuming you're town, a palmar that is playing (and there was one other, maybe rayn?) aren't people most would go toe-to-toe with
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nah, i like the players on the tofu train just fine, snickers
and tofu's push on palmar was horrible. it's not a bad lynch. it could be a wrong lynch. i'm hoping palmar can articulate why he doesn't want to pull the trigger on it
a timid bf doesn't fit with my knowledge of bf, either, so that may actually be a thing, despite liking his big post. i'll admit that his posts made me twitch even as scum just cause of how little sense they made. i might be very wrong on him here because lack of twitch factor lol ><
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heh i had no clue how many posts i was on ^^ apparently i'm alright
ye, 100% unless i see something new from clarity, if we can get a lynch rolling on him i will lynch him over everyone else right now
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On July 27 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar are you sure Kelsier is more likely to be mafia than FT is?
I have to get up at 4am, i am going soon, i need your input.
I hate rsoultin is not here and Clarity is probably scum.
lol i'm here...i actually had a social life this weekend, wonder of wonders
eh, i didn't like gb's case on ksc :/ blah, but that's more because it seems to me that gb isn't understanding what's being said in a lot of kelsier's posts. i guess i could be somewhat pocketed here but i don't think so?
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On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? 
i need you to articulate it better for me, rayn
how is the thought process contradictory? his explanation for it (palmar having new reads on people he was actually interested in) seemed okay? granted, it's obvious palmar won't be lynched and it's pretty coincidental that he doesn't seem to think he's scum anymore
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@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game
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bueno, vote clarity ^^
clarity clarity clarity and if he's scum this game i get a cookie! \o/
so start baking
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On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott
2 isn't damning at all if it's how i interpreted it to be? like, i get it could be either way, i'm not ksc, but if i can interpret it as coming from both alignments and see nothing else to make me think ksc is scum, it's not enough for me to change my mind? that simple
why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/
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On July 27 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/ I ma not sure about it. I am not sure about Kelsier being mafia. I actually think you and Palmar are more likely to be mafia.
lol then you're at least 50% wrong
and i dunnae...i'm shit at reading palmar but i don't think i've seen him play this way as scum? i agree with the stream of consciousness doubty thing mentioned by tofu i think it was
so most likely you're 100% wrong...tofu you may be right on but i don't feel strongly about him?
i don't really know how to explain it, apart from clarity doing nothing to progress the thread in any way and knowing that he's capable of it. he even "sheeped" you without making it clear what his read on you even was, which is something that i don't believe comes from a towny mindset
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On July 27 2015 04:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott 2 isn't damning at all if it's how i interpreted it to be? like, i get it could be either way, i'm not ksc, but if i can interpret it as coming from both alignments and see nothing else to make me think ksc is scum, it's not enough for me to change my mind? that simple why not clarity, rayn? i really think he's scum :/ You're talking about the interpretation you have on his answer to scott, and I'm talking about him shutting down ANY pressure put towards him, that can't be object of double interpretation. It is a deflection of pressure.
yeah, so?
i do that as town? if it's stupid as shit half the time i tell you to take a hike, go read, etc. etc. if it doesn't make me scum i'm not sure how it makes him scum
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