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On July 23 2015 00:51 Rels wrote: Wow this looks more and more like my first game.
And I'm loving it (= ^ Glad to see you're joining us ruXxar.
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The cold never bothered me anyway...
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^^^
[Definitely not trying to pocket players. ]
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ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone.
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On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die.
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On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Then I will be honored to be in your company. Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum. Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed. Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one. If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous.. In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum. My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt. It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own. If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions. The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Wow it took you two/three games to realize this? I kept on pointing it out for you in our first game together and all you did was brush it aside.
For anyone else wondering, his tunneling hard on me was really bad. Like REALLY bad. This was basically his posts against me: "I think he's Mafia so if I read his posts, his first few pages show that he's tryhard townie then this post 15 pages later is him scum slipping because of this post now which when compared to the other post a couple pages back.
Meanwhile he was changing his vote every time a new wagon popped up. Yeh you can say I'm a bit biased against ruXxar so you better be careful buddy. The moment I see a scum slip you're done for.
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ayeeE this is our 3rd game together n00bKing.
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Breshke is this ur first game of TL Mafia.
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On July 24 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:05 MoosyDoosy wrote: ayeeE this is our 3rd game together n00bKing. Yep, and my 3rd game total! I noticed ruXxar said this is his 4th game. I need to make sure he plays in my 4th Newbie game, so that I can see him listed as a "Veteran" and my mind can = blown. PS: Are you Scum? Yeah it's my 3rd game total too. <3 I need to do that too. Let's plan it together.
PS: I am scum. tbh it doesn't matter what I say since you call my alignment out right every time. -.-
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On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote: hi everybody. i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw.
i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless. i still think you cannot tell either way though. moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me. False, I'm not pointing fingers I'm giving useless information and trying to pocket n00bKing. The one who's point fingers is n00bKing.
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^ Don't let that discourage you tho. You'll start distinguishing the fluff from the real posts over the course of the game. Just read every post carefully and try not to let biases get in your way.
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On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
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On that note n00bKing you seem a lot more friendly in this game than in others. At least you're posting a lot more fluff here and responding to more stuff than going down to business like you normally would. Any particular reason why?
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/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times.
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Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well.
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On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. Why would he be "obtuse" about something he was saying ruXxar when he's asking about what I said about you? They're two separate things. Hm?
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about something he was saying about ruXxar*
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His read on ruXxar has nothing to do with my thoughts on you. Unless you're being cautious about what exactly you wrote about ruXxar? Thanks man.
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Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.
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Is that answer enough Breshke? :3
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^^ It's a lazy attempt whether scum or newbie is all I can basically say.
Anyway, I'll read through filters. I'll do what I usually do and form a townie circle from reads before working from there.
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On July 24 2015 11:13 MoosyDoosy wrote: ^^ It's a lazy attempt whether scum or newbie is all I can basically say.
Anyway, I'll read through filters. I'll do what I usually do and form a townie circle from reads before working from there. Oh I was referring to Breshke's argument on ruXxar when I posted this.
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On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind. I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great. That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense. Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.
Oh, and since you ask: The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping.
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Then I will be honored to be in your company. Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum. Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed. Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one. If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous.. In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum. My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt. It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own. If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions. The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.
Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9):
On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote: Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?
Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post.
And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that?
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On July 24 2015 11:50 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 11:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind. I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great. That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense. Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads. Oh, and since you ask: The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping. On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Then I will be honored to be in your company. Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum. Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed. Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one. If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous.. In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum. My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt. It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own. If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions. The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9): On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote: Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia? Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post. And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that? Ive played with ruxxar twice he was scum both times. How many times have you played with him? The problem is I don't think you can because he said he activly tries to change the way he plays and damdred is right you cant change your meta but meta isnt stuff like you just explained it takes like many many games of playing with someone to really understand their meta, lazy meta reads like you just gave on ruxxar are easy to give and they are just as easy for people to fool you with because what stops ruxxar from not making a case if he is scum just to fool you? Also i never based my read on the fact that ruxxar didnt answer my question show me specifically where you think i did. That question was posed because i was forming my read on him and it was going to help if he answered it. Then damdred asked wtf was up with my questions so i showed what i had. NOWHERE in that post do i base it off of ruxxar not responding. Yes ruxxar didnt give a read on noobking but he had ample time to at least TRY and work it out while he was in the thread instead of doing his poetry stuff. And it is specifically noobking because as i said in the original post ruxxar specifically said he was doing the poetry stuff to get reactions and noobking reacted to the poetry stuff and ruxxar did NOTHING with this reaction. Yes this makes more sense. Thank you for clearly explaining your thought process.
To address your points.
To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam. If I'm guessing correctly (although you might be right in that he's metagaming really hard), he got townie and was honestly very relieved at that fact and decided to "change things up" with a "trap". In this case it would be his poetry spam. However, (if I'm brutally honest here) ruXxar really isn't the best at reads. He's good at creating conversations but he's not that good at reads. So I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't really been reading into anything and has just been happily freewheeling with his spam.
As a note, I might be a bit biased in this because I did much the same in my last game which was Newbie Mafia XII which you can take a look at.
Either way, I think we can both agree that we'll have to see how ruXxar acts from here on out and judge from there. Which will be easy because I'll be suspecting him hard if he doesn't start posting a shit ton like he normally does. And I'm going to take an especially hard look at him for reasons I stated before.
Thanks for your responses and reactions. They at least gave me some better reads.
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On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ? Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~
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^ Exactly. Glad I'm helping already.
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On a different note, I'd like for you not to get so tunneled Rels. Your perseverance is admirable in hunting your prey but you have to calm down a bit.
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On July 24 2015 22:35 ruXxar wrote: Moosy.. What is this soul-read you have on me? WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words. I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
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On July 24 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: On a different note, I'd like for you not to get so tunneled Rels. Your perseverance is admirable in hunting your prey but you have to calm down a bit. Tunneled on who exactly ? Just in general. An observation about your play from our last Newbie game together. If you look at your filter from it you can see you were tunneled on the wrong people most of the time starting with a tunnel on town!me and ending with a tunnel on town!Kickstart with some others in between. Keep your thought process open.
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On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. Have you talked with n00bKing before? He's a good player but when he pressures it feels like a needle is being rammed into your brain as you start desperately backpedaling to get solid footing to defend yourself. Not to mention when you try and engage him in casual conversation he spurns it most of the time and uses it as a foothold to pressure him instead of
But in this game he's been a lot less active and less spiky. I'm not sure if it's because of the reasons he listed before or not so just keep an open mind about him until he starts posting.
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On July 24 2015 21:50 Rels wrote:@Moosy I reread carefully and I think I understand now the situation, so disregard this post: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it.On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ? I'll explain what I thought the situation was so you can correct me if wrong. Breshke posted a read of ruxxar: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it.On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. You read the line in bold (see the quote above) and thought Breshke meant ruxxar dodges this post: When in reality, Breshke said ruxxar dodged a question about noobking here: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. Everything is correct except the last point. Breshke was saying that it was weird when ruXxar was posting his weird poetry shit in order to get reads but didn't actually actively draw reads from n00bKing and others who responded to his weird poetry shit.
I said that this could be because ruXxar is a) inept at reads b) is happy freewheeling with his spam c) is Mafia. I personally think it's a combination of a) and b).
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On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron. Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive.
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On July 24 2015 23:24 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. Have you talked with n00bKing before? He's a good player but when he pressures it feels like a needle is being rammed into your brain as you start desperately backpedaling to get solid footing to defend yourself. Not to mention when you try and engage him in casual conversation he spurns it most of the time and uses it as a foothold to pressure him instead of But in this game he's been a lot less active and less spiky. I'm not sure if it's because of the reasons he listed before or not so just keep an open mind about him until he starts posting. No I haven't. Though I've read a few games I think I'm just going to read people on what I'm seeing in this game alone - people seem to be making references to past games and not sure how helpful that is when apparently some people are changing their play style apparently anyways. This is a very good idea. Metagaming just starts to make things a lot more complicated than necessary.
It's just that I find n00bKing's slight change in behavior a bit strange because he's a stickler for consistency and I find it hard to believe he'd change his playstyle willingly. Eh, I've played with him in all his past games so I'll try and find his alignment.
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On July 24 2015 23:28 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron. Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. Town: Disformation. Rels. Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out?
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On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron. Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. Town: Disformation. Rels. Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain. Breshke: - Too many words, too emotional, overly-defensive. Moosy: - Explanation of my meta is contrived. - Says my town tone is glaringly obvious yet goes on to say he will suspect me hard. Lol you want my honest expectations of ruXxar? I think he's a shit player who can't give reads and who makes shitty arguments like this. He tunnels hard as hell and generates way too much spam for him to be worth as a townie. That's my honest interpretation of ruXxar.
HOWEVER
even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.
As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. That's what I mean when I say I will "suspect you hard". It's not that I think that you're Mafia but that I'm going to make sure that if you are Mafia that I'll catch it and make sure you die.
Want me to more brutally honest or does this suffice?
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On July 25 2015 00:52 ruXxar wrote:Also for moosy: You keep dodging rels question. I want an answer: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 22:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ? Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~ Sure I'll give you an answer.
I read you as slight town lean because you're being as useless as the other newbie game we were in where you were townie.
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If you guys want more of my thoughts on ruXxar please feel free to ask. I can write an essay about this guy's play. I was trying to keep it out of this game but since you guys seem to want it so bad~
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On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:28 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote: [quote]
It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?
I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia. n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron. Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. Town: Disformation. Rels. Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain. Breshke: - Too many words, too emotional, overly-defensive. Moosy: - Explanation of my meta is contrived. - Says my town tone is glaringly obvious yet goes on to say he will suspect me hard. Lol you want my honest expectations of ruXxar? I think he's a shit player who can't give reads and who makes shitty arguments like this. He tunnels hard as hell and generates way too much spam for him to be worth as a townie. That's my honest interpretation of ruXxar. HOWEVER even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway. As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. That's what I mean when I say I will "suspect you hard". It's not that I think that you're Mafia but that I'm going to make sure that if you are Mafia that I'll catch it and make sure you die. Want me to more brutally honest or does this suffice? Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 00:52 ruXxar wrote:Also for moosy: You keep dodging rels question. I want an answer: On July 24 2015 22:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ? What are your thoughts on ruxxar ? Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~ Sure I'll give you an answer. I read you as slight town lean because you're being as useless as the other newbie game we were in where you were townie. Wrong question. I want you to answer this: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it. OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. What do you mean with " You might be onto something here Damdred" ? Lol yeah you're shit. You ask for my honest opinion of you then spurn it when you dislike what you hear. Give me more bias buddy. Please disillusion yourself more.
As for your question, Breshke didn't give a clear line of reasoning behind his argument against you which I attempted to make him explain through pressuring. His defense was decent and if you look at the posts between us, it resembled your typical two townie shit fight. So I managed to glean a town read off of that. That line in particular was meant to spark a reaction from Breshke and see what he did.
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I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed. My play revolves around getting town reads and pocketing such townies to form a townie circle to catch Mafia. I've already explained this before.
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On July 25 2015 01:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. This is a general pocket post, it happened shrug. I'm not sure how I encouraged you to vote him? Don't forget how I was trying to pocket n00bKing earlier.
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On July 25 2015 01:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: If you guys want more of my thoughts on ruXxar please feel free to ask. I can write an essay about this guy's play. I was trying to keep it out of this game but since you guys seem to want it so bad~ No I think we all got it. You should comment his case now. What case? The case against him is null because it relies on him being a good player and the case against him is null because he doesn't know what he's doing.
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On July 25 2015 01:40 Damdred wrote: I can't say that i'm 100% sold on a town breshke though Yeah that's not what I was saying. Just that we can glean ONE town read from it in his favor.
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On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote: Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion.
Can I just point out this shitty play for you all? If we're trying to create a good town atmosphere you're supposed to accept what people say and bounce thoughts off of others to create a productive atmosphere. Statements like these just brushes other's thoughts away creating a shitty atmosphere. smh ruXxar. Alright I'm done with bashing him for now.
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On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:Don't like moosy at all: To breshke: Show nested quote +Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads. Show nested quote +And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) Show nested quote +To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam To me: Show nested quote +I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. Show nested quote +Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads Lynch with fire. I already explained it. I think he's a shitty player which is why he doesn't give reads and can't do reads for his life.
On the other hand since he did sign up to play he should at least do something helpful and TRY to give reads even though he won't give anything useful.
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On July 25 2015 01:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote: Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. Can I just point out this shitty play for you all? If we're trying to create a good town atmosphere you're supposed to accept what people say and bounce thoughts off of others to create a productive atmosphere. Statements like these just brushes other's thoughts away creating a shitty atmosphere. smh ruXxar. Alright I'm done with bashing him for now. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote: Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. So you're saying this statement is causing is causing worse town atmosphere than this? Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote: even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.
As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Lol yeah you're shit. You ask for my honest opinion of you then spurn it when you dislike what you hear. Give me more bias buddy. Please disillusion yourself more.. The more you talk the more convinced I am that you are mafia. I'm not afraid to respond in the same way that you've responded to me bb.
If things like these make you think I'm Mafia that just goes further to show you're a shitty player. These things just show how much I dislike you and go in no way to show that I'm Mafia. Continue to build your tunnel tho. It's fun to see you flailing and it just goes to prove how useless you are.
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On July 25 2015 02:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 01:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 01:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote: Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. Can I just point out this shitty play for you all? If we're trying to create a good town atmosphere you're supposed to accept what people say and bounce thoughts off of others to create a productive atmosphere. Statements like these just brushes other's thoughts away creating a shitty atmosphere. smh ruXxar. Alright I'm done with bashing him for now. On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote: Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion. So you're saying this statement is causing is causing worse town atmosphere than this? On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote: even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.
As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. On July 25 2015 01:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Lol yeah you're shit. You ask for my honest opinion of you then spurn it when you dislike what you hear. Give me more bias buddy. Please disillusion yourself more.. The more you talk the more convinced I am that you are mafia. I'm not afraid to respond in the same way that you've responded to me bb. If things like these make you think I'm Mafia that just goes further to show you're a shitty player. These things just show how much I dislike you and go in no way to show that I'm Mafia. Continue to build your tunnel tho. It's fun to see you flailing and it just goes to prove how useless you are. I'm glad you find pleasure in these personal attacks. I'm sorry to say that it's not an effective way to gain town-cred. You should try a different approach next mafia game. If you think that I'm trying to get town-cred with these attacks think again buddy. I don't think I'll exactly change this approach next Mafia game either. Since this is your second game in a row where you're tunneling in on me, I feel it's going to become custom where you do it every game and I point out your history of tunneling. And then ofc you still tunnel because you can't do anything else.
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On July 25 2015 02:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 02:04 Rels wrote: ruxxar why are you still attacking moosy when the "change in attitude" thing is not true ? Look here: On July 24 2015 12:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: Either way, I think we can both agree that we'll have to see how ruXxar acts from here on out and judge from there. Which will be easy because I'll be suspecting him hard if he doesn't start posting a shit ton like he normally does. And I'm going to take an especially hard look at him for reasons I stated before. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads He says he is going to suspect me if I don't spam. And when I spam he says "stop spamming"? First, he's not suspecting you. Second, I think what he's saying is "post more useful stuff". It doesn't matter either way. He never stops tunneling.
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On July 25 2015 02:32 disformation wrote:Okay. Back home from work. Caught up to the thread. Have like 12 tabs open with posts I want to point out/respond to. Please feel free to ask any questions, if you have any. I also super duper dislike MoosyDoosy's use of language here... Sorry will tone down the curses.
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On July 25 2015 03:15 ruXxar wrote: Either way I don't want inbetween lines. I want an explicit list of reads. Yeh cuz u suck. Will continue reading from this post. Looks like a lot of action went down or ruXxar spammed a lot during the time I was away. I'll do the list after I'm finished reading since others besides ruXxar asked for it.
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On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote: Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...
We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...
So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?
You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps... zzzz, cut the crapperonies. GIve us some reads in plain text. LOL like you should be talking ruXxar. All right all right I'll stop bashing the poor kid. Just can't help seeing these little posts. Will finish reading in silence and post afterwards.
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On July 25 2015 04:25 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:23 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 21:45 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 18:59 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:@ruxxar On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote: [quote] Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (= 'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike. Sure. (= Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ? It is for all who know the inside joke. In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me. Give me action, I want to see your teeth. OK ruxxar. So this line: On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote: Did I mention I am yakuza guys. has two purposes: - joke for those who knows it - reaction test for mafia Am I correct ? And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ? On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote: In b4 finnski claims cop.
Indeed, it's from another voice mafia game. OK that makes little sense to me that you have two separates explanations for a sentence containing 7 words. I think I may be able to clear up this misunderstanding between Rels and ruXxar. When ruXxar says "it's from another voice mafia game" he could be talking about the "finnski claims cop" line, instead of still talking about the Yakuza claim. What's your opinion on moosy? What do you think about my evaluation of you being more warm and jokey than usual? COUGH YOU'RE evaluation about him being more warm? I was the first one to point that out thank you very much. But then again the only thing you can do is hop on wagons so I guess I shouldn't have expected anything else.
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On July 25 2015 04:43 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote: n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.
Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit. What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. This post from me will probably not be productive. But I don't think I can keep myself from making it. First off, ruXxar comparing me to a "shiny dodacahedron" almost makes everything else he said in his annoying posting style WORTH it. Almost. Second, I have to wonder if your post to him is just copied and pasted from things I said to you in Newbie XII, when you were being equally useful. My efforts to make you wake up and start participating in the game took quite a while to have any effect. Eh. The difference between what we did is that it was clearly obvious that ruXxar was trying to force a reaction which made the Mafia just more cautious. On the other hand I went all-out with my trap so that Sulfurus was snagged hard. You can see this on the vote count. I was almost lynched and it went down to a one vote difference between me and Sulfurus. On the other hand, ruXxar was too lazy with his trap and no one took him seriously anyway.
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On July 25 2015 04:53 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain. ...weren't you scum in that game too, though? If you're Town this game, then being suspicious of him because he reads you the same way he did when you were both scum is...curious. How so? It's the lazy man approach. Damdred thinks like this: "Fuck I am scum again, boring shit" "Ruxx said a lot of crap" "I know ruxx is town, so how do I convey that without TIMI" "I'll just use my random tone-read I used last game done deal" Or he doesn't. I'll be damded If I know what damdred thinks half the time. ruXxar as a hint of advice, don't try to understand other people's thought process. That's a bad thing because you can literally twist anyone's "thought process" to make it look like they're Mafia. What you should do is look at posts and find tone reads or slips. And the contradictions you tried to force onto me are like the ones that batsnacks forced on geript. There's a difference between scumslips and contradictions. A way to get better at Mafia is discerning this.
Just some friendly advice since this is a newbie game after all.
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On July 25 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 05:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 05:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 05:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:58 ruXxar wrote: Only reason rayn is scum here is for abusing town sentiment of bad barakos post to push a mis-lynch. Otherwise I think rayn is town. you can argue that on N1. Or i can argue you are scum if Barakos flips mafia. hint: take a stance. if you think Barakos is town push another lynch then, because i am pushing a mislynch and if you are town you do not want to mislynch. Don't you worry, moosy is my #1 mafia all day every day. how about you convince the rest of us to vote for him them? and tell me how my case is bad. right now you only have dumb reasons (sorry if i am being rude here) to think my case is bad. or rather, you haven't even commented on my case in any way, you just bring up reasons why Barakos COULD be town instead of arguing why the scummy stuff is not scummy. I didn't say your case is bad, I haven't evaluated it yet. And I don't like barakos posts at all tbh. I wouldn't be sad if he got lynched, but I think he's also an easy target if he's town. I'll give you input on barakos when I've read your case. why are you even talking to me about this right now? Like you LITERALLY said "only reason rayn is scum here is for abusing town sentiment of bad barakos post to push a mis-lynch". go read then come back and do not derail the thread with useless shit please. say things when you have things to say. you havent even read what i have to say yet you invent a narrative i could be scum for something you don't even know!?!?!? why? Because it's logic. What you say is not as important as what you do. Putting things in context it's plausible that mafia want to push barakos for his bad post. It's also possible that mafia aren't touching barakos with a 10 feet pole to draw suspicion to him and are trying to subtly defend him. wow logic *mindexplosion.gif* comment on the case please. do not sidetrack. that's all you are doing right now in case you somehow cannot see it yourself.
On July 25 2015 05:16 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 04:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain. ...weren't you scum in that game too, though? If you're Town this game, then being suspicious of him because he reads you the same way he did when you were both scum is...curious. How so? It's the lazy man approach. Damdred thinks like this: "Fuck I am scum again, boring shit" "Ruxx said a lot of crap" "I know ruxx is town, so how do I convey that without TIMI" "I'll just use my random tone-read I used last game done deal" Or he doesn't. I'll be damded If I know what damdred thinks half the time. Please don't write a pointless narrative that has no basis in fact. I actually love rolling scum and I never really get caught in tmi. Anyway you going to have a really hard time in big boy games if this is what you focus on when you are town.
ayeeE these are the posts I'm talking about.
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Okay read through posts. Glad people realize ruXxar is a dumb.
But whatever. It looks like the important portion of this day was in the last few pages so I'll read over it, look at filters, and decide which camp to take place in.
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On July 25 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote: Yeah sulfurus is town Reasoning?
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On July 25 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: ruxxar I think you and moosy both need to stop tunneling each other for stupid as fuck reasons. just ignore each other for a while and focus on something else. you are both town anyways. I am not tunneling on him. I just love bashing him. On the other hand, he is really tunneling on me.
On July 25 2015 22:03 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: ruxxar I think you and moosy both need to stop tunneling each other for stupid as fuck reasons. just ignore each other for a while and focus on something else. you are both town anyways. TMI scum slip? No. It's just obvious as hell when you're a townie.
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Barakos why'd you have to die and leave me to win this game? T . T
^^ Oh snap scum slip.
Guys, guys, ruXxar is right. Please lynch me.
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To be honest, I'm getting a lot busier so I wouldn't mind if you all lynched me so that my obligation to this game is gone. So please wagon me on ruXxar so I can shove this mislynch in his face in our next game.
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##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh.
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MoosyDoosy is scum because ruXxar says so. Lynch with fire and brimstone.
rayn is town. He’s been active and questioning/interacting with others the most. His intentions are clearly to catch Mafia. The fact that he’s been getting frustrated over others wasting time on him is only a townie point in his favor as there’s no point in tunneling on towns. (cough ruXxar cough)
ruXxar is town because he’s being a dumb like his other newbie game as a townie. The only time where he knows what he’s doing is when he’s Mafia as he knows the alignments then. Otherwise he’s clueless. Everyone else has pointed this out as well so it’s been universally agreed on that he is a townie.
Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.
disinformation is town. His filter is clean and he’s working to catch Mafia although he’s not that active. But when he’s posting he posts good stuff. He caught Barakos early on and pushed for his lynch too so he’s a townie.
NocturneMage is a good newbie town. Same as disinformation but a smaller filter. Still puts in decent effort and is a solid town read.
1 scum read and 5 town reads. Everyone else I'm re-looking at.
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On July 27 2015 02:35 Damdred wrote: Idk how moosey has a read on Breske but not me.
Though I have reread mages and he's not as bad ad I thought I have a few hang ups though about him. Like what. If you posted I'm reading from 40 onwards so I'm a bit behind. It would help if you re-quote your posts about him or quote some posts about him that are fishy. Or just give what vibe you get from him since we're both tone-oriented. Note that I do have reads on you but my townie circle is what I posted so far.
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On July 27 2015 02:42 Damdred wrote: I'm on phone so can't qupte, I was the first person who called Barak out on his post. You even liked that post but aren't town reading me for the same reasons as you are disinformation.
It's reallyvweird idk I've never seen you this active before. Whenever you're townie you're always chill and relaxed while throwing out good reads to guide us in the right direction. I also haven't looked at the voting process because it's really difficult to without a separate thread for it. I'll look into it but it's gonna take a while because the voting count is spread across so many pages.
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Yeah I guess Damdred has to be town unless he was busing hard and had to point out that post because it was way too obvious. One thing that bothers me is that you’ve been a bit of an oprah early on with your town reads but I guess they were really obvious although still a bit TOO early.
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On July 27 2015 02:56 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure how what you are describing is different in any way from here.
I have good town reads early. I call out scum!barakos I vote him third but misspell,his name so on the wagon later rather than third. I continue to have ok reads and try to figure people out.
So what's causing the hesitation when earlier you liked my posts? At first I liked your initial reads. But as the game went on and you became more aggressive and active which is way different from what I’ve seen of you before, I started getting really paranoid and read your earlier reads as something only Mafia could say so early on with confidence.
…Eh, I still think it’s strange that you’re pushing so hard when you normally don’t but your voting states otherwise. I might also just have had a wrong feel of your meta since the two games that I’ve been in with you, you’ve been very chill and only threw out reads occasionally.
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n00bKing, I'm reading your filter next but I'm gonna say that I don't feel good about you getting tunneled this hard on Rels. Something that I said might happen and warned you about before too. :/
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On July 27 2015 03:47 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 03:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: n00bKing, I'm reading your filter next but I'm gonna say that I don't feel good about you getting tunneled this hard on Rels. Something that I said might happen and warned you about before too. :/ I don't think "tunneled" means what you think it does. Tough to accuse me of "tunnel vision" when I am continuously giving thoughts on other players besides Rels, and continuously engaging in discussions that have nothing to do with Rels. If there is any player that you aren't sure what I think of them, that's about to be corrected. Then I'm waiting for your epitaph.
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On July 27 2015 04:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 03:35 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 03:31 Rels wrote: So what you said: "Rels said his post didn't require thought". "Rels said his post required thought". Is not what happened.
The situation is: "Rels said each remarks in his post didn't require thought" (in response to you BTW. The original case does NOT care if each separate remark are cut off thoughts or not) "Rels said his post required thought 'cause there are remarks on three different subjects". I'm going to label this as "Rels having fun with semantics." And I am going to label it as "the 3rd time Rels has been forced to retcon a story, after there being 5 times he has contradicted himself." ?!!! His story checks out. Your grandiose witch hunt on this small little detail doesn't matter jack shit in the long run because what you want to look for is mafia motivation and not get hung up in small details like this that totally derail town productivity. I can perfectly understand rels logic here and nothing in that argument is him contradicting himself. Go look at the broader strokes of the game and try to discern mafia motivation from that, this topic of rels scum-read has been beaten to death and you're not going to convince me he's scum for it. Ruxxor makes a good post. Must be scum
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Damdred what's your thought on n00bKing vs Rels?
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^ Just a quick one-liner and I'll post my own thought on it.
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Also as a btw, my list changed a bit after actually reading through filters and reading some more thoughts.
I'll post it after Damdred gives his thought on n00bKing vs Rels.
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On July 27 2015 04:05 ruXxar wrote: Fuck me what have I done.... At least you now know how to screw everyone over in your next game as Mafia. Post random shit that doesn't make sense.
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Well I think it's your standard townie shitfest. XD Admittedly, reading through n00bKing's filter is like slogging through mud and it's a lot larger than other games but his play is starting to look more like himself while Rels is acting like Rels.
Alright so here’s my list as it stands.
Townie Circle ruXxar: Hashed and rehashed by everyone.
disinformation: Same as previous list, clean filter looks like he’s scum hunting when he’s active and he was early on Barakos.
Damdred: Although a bit different from my previous games with him, his early pushes and votes against Barakos make him a townie.
rayn: Same as previous list, good filter that shows he’s scum hunting and has been the most active and worthful in his posting.
n00bKing: His good old tunneling and his posts just reflect that he’s a townie. The fight between him and Rels is clearly your standard townie shitfest.
Rels: In the same boat as n00bKing. Got tunneled as hell on NocturneMage based on first posts (as usual) and the shitfest is just fun to watch.
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On July 27 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's murder Flexes and then Tictock. Well my list leaves Tictock, Breshke, NocturneMage, Flexes, and Sulfurus.
Tictock's filter is trash but that's as usual from him. I expect him to buckle down and get to business in Day 2 as he did in the last newbie game. His reads were all wrong Day 1 though which is never good.
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.
NocturneMage can be a Mafia desperately flipping since he was 8th on the Barakos wagon. His filter is rather clean but I'll take a look at it again.
Flexes is afk. Good vigi shot.
Sulfurus is weird. Probs Mafia Godfather for the 3rd time in a row.
So I would shoot Flexes, then lynch Sulfurus and work from there.
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On July 27 2015 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i find it absolutely impossible both remaining mafia were on Barakos, unless n00bKing and NocturneMage are scum but i also find this impossible. They might have flipped at different times. That's why I'm looking at Sulfurus/NocturneMage more closely. Or Breshke/NocturneMage.
I really doubt that both Mafias flipped together like Breshke/Sulfurus but it can be possible.
It would be great if n00bKing could look into the associative cases of these three since he’s good at that and stop being tunneled on Rels for a moment.
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On July 27 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote: @Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday? Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos. To be perfectly honest? Real life stuff. I woke up late and was busy taking my practice SAT2 Lit test then had to run to my SAT2 Physics class so I wasn’t around for the voting time. Still not an excuse since it was my fault I woke up late.
Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard.
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On July 27 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i find it absolutely impossible both remaining mafia were on Barakos, unless n00bKing and NocturneMage are scum but i also find this impossible. They might have flipped at different times. That's why I'm looking at Sulfurus/NocturneMage more closely. Or Breshke/NocturneMage. ehhh, why do you want Flexes shot if you don't even think he is mafia? Eh, I’m just really antsy about inactive people since they turn out to be Mafia more often than not. I mean another fine vigi action would be to shoot Sulfurus and then see if Flexes becomes active or not. Judging by how he didn’t post or vote for the longest time it could just be real life stuff.
Then we look at Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage and see who’s Mafia and who’s not.
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On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see.
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On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.
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On July 27 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. I'll tell you a secret, it can happen if townies don't get lazy and dumb after D1 mafia lynch. Which usually happens. so, instead of posting a list of people and say "lynch here and there and ggnore" continue find mafia. this goes to everyone, not only to you. Um...I don't see how I'm being lazy. In fact I'm trying to help out by supplying my list and actually answering questions from people. Sure I put in a joke or two but if you find that as "lazy" then I guess you can't take even that...
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On July 27 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I promise i will look more closely onto Sulfurus in case i am alive on D2. As I said.
n00bKing, thoughts about your list after looking at my most recent posts? Yours seems solid and more or less mine although I have people on mine in a slightly different order.
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On July 27 2015 05:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I promise i will look more closely onto Sulfurus in case i am alive on D2. As I said. n00bKing, thoughts about your list after looking at my most recent posts? Yours seems solid and more or less mine although I have people on mine in a slightly different order. Besides Rels ofc. Eh, if I address Rels I have to put on tinfoil and address you as well. I'll do it again but I hate reading both of your filters at this point.
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Tictock is more dangerous so checking him would be more prudent imo.
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On July 27 2015 05:36 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: It would be great if n00bKing could look into the associative cases of these three since he’s good at that and stop being tunneled on Rels for a moment. You gonna say stuff like this to me every single game? I have to keep going back to Rels only because no one else is posting any arguments against him where I can be like "Yeah, that." It's not going to keep me from looking at everything else. It's not like I'm so focused on Rels that I can't think about or talk about anything else. I read like 9 filters during this Phase, okay? I'll have my head in the game. Uh, which part. The tunneled part which is true? Or the the associative case part which you're the best at? Either way I'll read Rels filter and yours again just to make you happy.
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How many hours until night time ends?
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On July 27 2015 06:40 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: How many hours until night time ends? 20 minutes, I think. Well it was nice knowing whoever is going to die. Hopefully we'll get information from this death. In the >1% chance that I die, my list of reads is what I'll leave behind.
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ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this.
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scott replaced Flexes...uh oh that may or may not be an improvement judging by how often scott posts. Anyway, welcome buddy.
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On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I gotta go to bed. shoot Fexexs. check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia. i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM. i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed? Honestly, just looking at n00bKing's, mine's, and Damdred's lists in the last few pages should be enough.
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On July 27 2015 09:16 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this. This is an interesting post. Did you think that n00bking had a high likelihood of getting NKed? Same question for you n00bking, why make all the posts before the day post about "pls don't kill me scum"? Did you seriously think you were getting NKed? Let me explain this for you plainly.
I personally did not think n00bKing would be killed because Rels is not scum. And n00bKing's play was so centered around killing Rels that scum decided to best course would be to let him live.
On the other hand, n00bKing believes that he is correct about Rels. It is because of this that he thought he would die. Also because he has been killed for 66.66% on Night 1 for all of his games so far.
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On July 27 2015 09:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 09:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this. This is an interesting post. Did you think that n00bking had a high likelihood of getting NKed? Same question for you n00bking, why make all the posts before the day post about "pls don't kill me scum"? Did you seriously think you were getting NKed? Let me explain this for you plainly. I personally did not think n00bKing would be killed because Rels is not scum. And n00bKing's play was so centered around killing Rels that scum decided to best course would be to let him live. On the other hand, n00bKing believes that he is correct about Rels. It is because of this that he thought he would die. Also because he has been killed for 66.66% on Night 1 for all of his games so far. Actually, this doesn't mean much on second thought because we don't know who Doctor saved. Hm...I doubt it would have been n00bKing though.
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I'd like Breshke's thoughts on Sulfurus.
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Where's the Day 2 voting link btw?
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On July 27 2015 10:47 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:38 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote: Nice save medic!
Seems pretty likely that we have Doc/Cop setup going, slim chance of a Vigi who held their shot (which you shouldn't do if your a vigi).
If there was a vet Mafia should have been roleblocking their NK (they know what setup we are in) to prevent the loss of their KP. So pretty much confirms that we have a medic.
Should not need to state this, but blues should continue to remain hidden. And ruxx, you need to stop trying to point out people who you think might have a role. How have you not learned this by now?
Welcome back Scott ^.^
Because n00bking is giving me all sorts of bad vibes and I'm trying to figure out why. Something about n00bking is rubbing me in the wrong spot, like an ominous premonition that something is off. I don't want to slander him without bringing evidence to the table so I'll put together my specific thoughts tomorrow. Like I don't even want to say that it's directly scummy, it's just a really weird feeling I get from his play. Also cop should out if he has a red check. Eh, I suppose a cop with a redcheck could out, but I know I wouldn't. Shouldn't have to out just to push someone you know is mafia. I'll be honest... I'm not sure if I care to dig through n00bs filter at this point to check if there is enough to break my townread on him. I've already seen all the back and forth between him and Rels and not much of it looked like it was worth following too closely. This I agree with. As I've said a couple times now, Rels vs n00bKing is just your standard townie shitfest.
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Finding out who medic saved is very unimportant...
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On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:@ Moosy Care to explain this read evolution? Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.
Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. I'm Mafia
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On July 27 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 11:03 Tictock wrote:@ Moosy Care to explain this read evolution? On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process. On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. I'm Mafia Ok. ##Vote: MoosyDoosyWas a simple question, why try and dodge it like that? yeah and I gave you a simple answer. I'm the Mafia. Nice catch.
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On July 27 2015 12:52 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 09:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 09:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 09:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 06:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this. This is an interesting post. Did you think that n00bking had a high likelihood of getting NKed? Same question for you n00bking, why make all the posts before the day post about "pls don't kill me scum"? Did you seriously think you were getting NKed? Let me explain this for you plainly. I personally did not think n00bKing would be killed because Rels is not scum. And n00bKing's play was so centered around killing Rels that scum decided to best course would be to let him live. On the other hand, n00bKing believes that he is correct about Rels. It is because of this that he thought he would die. Also because he has been killed for 66.66% on Night 1 for all of his games so far. Actually, this doesn't mean much on second thought because we don't know who Doctor saved. Hm...I doubt it would have been n00bKing though. Okay...good recovery, Moosy. Because there wouldn't be many ways for you to know that Scum decided to let me live, instead of me being saved. It wasn't a "good recovery." It was me attempting to put myself in your shoes and explain your thought process and why you were scared about being killed. But I guess I was wrong.
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So ruXxar....this is your golden chance to push a lynch on me. Why don't you do it?
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As an off question, why are you trusting Sulfurus so much Tictock? When I flip town what are you going to do? I doubt that you'll actually just roll over and die as described in Sulf's list.
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On July 27 2015 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote TickTack
He is either mafia or terrible. His list is terrible. I'd like a real case. I'd still rather lynch Sulfurus if I am to be honest.
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^ How would you know that???
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On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on.
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Tictock is town. He's starting to post more and is actually doing work as he usually starts doing once D2 starts. I still expect more tho. However, his reads are all wrong and he needs to start from scratch because it's been a disaster for him since D1.
And to answer his question: As for my evolution of reads on Breshke. While he has been having townie interactions with others, he’s been afk for far too long for me to enjoy having him in my townie circle. My primary fear is Mafia that is afk so that it’s almost impossible to read them. For now he is null due to his continued absence from the thread although if he posts or answers my questions I will be happy to re-evaluate.
If we indeed have a Vigi, then that leaves us a very dumb Vigi or a Vigi scott as someone stated before. This shortens our list to: Sulf/Breshke/NocturneMage
Again, there's the possibility of a world with Illuminati so let's not all get so tunneled.
As a note, I am very surprised that Sulfurus rolled Mafia Godfather for the 3rd game in a row now.
##Vote Sulfurus
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On July 27 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. Instead of being super aggressive all the time, could you answer this ? Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:I read moosy's filter and I like it. Except this. On July 27 2015 04:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote: @Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday? Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos. To be perfectly honest? Real life stuff. I woke up late and was busy taking my practice SAT2 Lit test then had to run to my SAT2 Physics class so I wasn’t around for the voting time. Still not an excuse since it was my fault I woke up late. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard. When moosy and ruxxar did their fight, it was late in the first half of D1 and Barakos was not clearly the lynch, and even less "hammered into the ground". @MD: What post did you have in mind with this sentence, when you wanted to find another scumread than Barakos but got into a fight with ruxxar ? 'cause the posts I found were waaaay prior Barakos being the clear lynch. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard.
Everyone and their mothers was saying that Barakos was scummy af except for Tictock. If I posted my same read on him would that have achieved anything?
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On July 28 2015 00:00 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: Tictock is town. He's starting to post more and is actually doing work as he usually starts doing once D2 starts. I still expect more tho. However, his reads are all wrong and he needs to start from scratch because it's been a disaster for him since D1.
And to answer his question: As for my evolution of reads on Breshke. While he has been having townie interactions with others, he’s been afk for far too long for me to enjoy having him in my townie circle. My primary fear is Mafia that is afk so that it’s almost impossible to read them. For now he is null due to his continued absence from the thread although if he posts or answers my questions I will be happy to re-evaluate. Show nested quote +Again, there's the possibility of a world with Illuminati so let's not all get so tunneled. Illuminati with respect to this game means....? Alright, so I'm a little more clear on the last part of why you'd lynch Breshke. Fair. Prepare your tinfoil hats. Mafia may be one of the inner core of townies and have given us the slip. I doubt it but it happens.
On July 27 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. Instead of being super aggressive all the time, could you answer this ? On July 27 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:I read moosy's filter and I like it. Except this. On July 27 2015 04:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote: @Moosy.
Why did you not vote yesterday? Also, why did you not have an opinion on barakos. To be perfectly honest? Real life stuff. I woke up late and was busy taking my practice SAT2 Lit test then had to run to my SAT2 Physics class so I wasn’t around for the voting time. Still not an excuse since it was my fault I woke up late. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard. When moosy and ruxxar did their fight, it was late in the first half of D1 and Barakos was not clearly the lynch, and even less "hammered into the ground". @MD: What post did you have in mind with this sentence, when you wanted to find another scumread than Barakos but got into a fight with ruxxar ? 'cause the posts I found were waaaay prior Barakos being the clear lynch. Barakos was being hammered into the ground. I was more interested in questioning other people to find a possible scum read if the Barakos wagon was wrong, but that instead quickly became an exercise of slandering you since you started tunneling on me hard.
Everyone and their mothers was saying that Barakos was scummy af except for Tictock. If I posted my same read on him would that have achieved anything? By "hammered to the ground" I understood "a lot of people voting for him". So actually you meant "a lot of people suspecting him" right ? Correct.
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I'm disappointed in you all. I have nothing against Tictock. His D1 and N1 filter are trash as usual. D2 he's making decent cases against me although they're pointless because I'm town. I think he's town. He doesn't think I'm town. The idea that my lynch will show our alignment means nothing.
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On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote: Quick post while on my meal break.
Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X.
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy.
As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to...
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Now this is interesting. As I've explained, my reads on Breshke have been evolving due to his absence from a town lean to a null read. This might come in handy later on.
As for scott, I'm honestly not surprised by his play because he hasn't really posted in any of the games that I've been in with him. So he's a null for me.
It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point.
Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea.
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btw rayn your vote is on Tictack and not Tictock.
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On July 28 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: Alright I thought about it more. Only three teams are likely in my mind: TT + NM Moosy + scott Moosy + NM
Even though I hated his "I am mafia" posts, I had a town feel for D1 for moosy. So for the moment my vote stay on TT.
I can switch to any of the other three, and will consolidate with my town reads if needed (rayn, Damdred, ruxxar, disfo, noobking). ...Your town feels should be from my N1 and not D1. D1 was me crushing ruXxar.
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On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote: Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns? It's really dumb. Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense. Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone. Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status. This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think. I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB....
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On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote: Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns? It's really dumb. Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense. Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone. Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status. This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think. I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar.
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On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote: Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns? It's really dumb. Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense. Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone. Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status. This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think. I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
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On July 28 2015 23:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote: Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns? It's really dumb. Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense. Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone. Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status. This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think. I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote: [quote]
Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...
And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-
Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...
Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.
Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.
Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote: I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play:
[quote] Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it.
He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote: [quote]
It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?
I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now. Also this is nosey talking to me like he thinks I'm town. I talk to everyone the same way if you look at my filter lol. I find it helps to ingratiate yourself with people so that they feel more comfortable and slip.
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After looking through Breshke’s filter it looks like he’s focusing on people that do weird shit. For example he first focuses on ruXxar before changing his read due to thread sentiment and then begins to tackle me. He enters the thread again and is now trying to force a lynch on me on the basis of my “I’m Mafia” post. Then there’s Tictock who’s apparently “third on his list”.
If this is the case I’d like for him to explain the basis of his suspicion on Tictock.
I’d also like him to re-evaluate the basis of his reads. If he’s focusing solely on people that only do weird shit then he’s never going to catch Mafia and he’s going to get a ton of mislynches.
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On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia.
I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false.
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On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. He's going to flip town.
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On July 29 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever? Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent? Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch? Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there? Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this. So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum. My Filter that game: Holy Guardians
On July 29 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. He's going to flip town.
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I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337
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On July 29 2015 04:34 n00bKing wrote: Well, that escalated quickly. Very quickly.
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*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.
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On July 29 2015 04:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"? Yes.
Nah, just saying the obvious. We're all thinking the same thing but not saying it.
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On July 29 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote: This is interesting.
Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon. Because I trust you and if you're wrong I want to grab my tinfoil and lynch you.
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On July 29 2015 04:52 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote: Just got home from work.
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.
- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke) - one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up) - Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)
Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.
Reading a few filters...
I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...
Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.
I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."
And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.
I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games. I think mages is scum here actually YES this is EXACTLY what I thought.
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On July 29 2015 04:55 Damdred wrote: I think the most interesting thing to me, is that mages thinks breshke is the most suspicious and wants to lynched I believe.
But just a few minutes after breshke consolidates on scott, he votes scott with a really meh reason without any suspicion with his top scum read on him. Not to mention he has solid town reads on people like me that are continuous almost as if he already knows the alignments beforehand.
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But I still think that lynching scott is a better idea. Mage becomes REALLY suspicious only when scott flips town. Even then he has a solid case of busing on him.
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##unvote ##vote NocturneMage
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Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
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On July 29 2015 05:37 ruXxar wrote: Why don't we listen to our veteran and cop and let them lead the lynch? I'll sheep whereever rayn + scott goes. rayn wants TT, scott wants to live.
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Damdred, your vote is on nocturnemages not NocturneMage btw.
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On July 29 2015 05:53 disformation wrote: The three remaining ppl should also switch of scott... not really happy right now. =/ Why are you not voting? Your vote is not counted if you did too.
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If there is a real cop, they should definitely counterclaim. n00bKing, you also quoted my post about how scott might be a PR. Can you explain your rationale behind it and respond to it? It might be important here.
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Woah woah we need to think about this. What if scott planned this from the start? Say he read what I posted or what Rels posted about him possibly being a PR and he breadcrumbed on purpose. From there he's relying on this claim to stay alive to gain town cred.
If there is a PR they need to speak up NOW.
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On July 29 2015 10:06 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 09:22 disformation wrote: @Sulfurus: Any changes to your POE due to the developments of D2? Not really. The green check does make Moosy townier but he still needs to die before the game ends. Also a lot more people should have town reads on me since I was the only player to town read our cop back when it was unpopular. *dons hipster shades* BTW have you rolled mafia before Dis? Unfortunately you're wrong in everything else so your credibility goes back to 0.
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On July 29 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I had a really nice theory about who was scum and I still want to stick to it.
The list included:
TT - town. Flexes - mafia. Nocturne - ? Moosy - ?
I want to add n00bking to that list as well as breshke.
Tomorrow I want to lynch moosy.
Moosy is the mafia godfather 100%. It's the only logical explanation I can find for his play. His play was baiting a cop check so hard it's insanely obvious when you go back and look at it.
Yeah. I'm lock voting moosy tomorrow. Only a miracle will convince me otherwise. Flame me all you want.
Likely mafia in order:
Moosy - mafia godfather. N00bking - mafia role blocker. Nocturne / breshke.
Game over, town wins. I am Mafia Godfather can confirm 200%.
ruXxar is g0d, ruXxar is life. How'd you find out mahn I should l2p 2gud2betru
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smh this Day ruined my fucking mood. Tictock was such a townie I don't know how anyone saw otherwise. scott is still suspicious af, ruXxar is 9000+ town because he's still spewing garbage, Breshke needs to give a fuck, rayn needs a slap in the face, disinformation needs to help me out here because he's the only one making sense to me rite now.
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I made this looong post where I drew up lists from all the voting times, people on me and other townies, my blanket list from earlier, and Damdred's thoughts that we shouldn't lynch people on the Barakos wagon. The list of people I was left with was Tictock/Breshke/scott/Sulf/ruXxar/Mage.
I read Tictock as town, scott claimed, ruXxar is 9000+ town, leaving us Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
I can post the post which I made before everyone started flip flopping through votes like fish if you guys want to see it but I decided not to post it and see how things turned out. Either way, it looks like the list is still good to go and my thoughts were only further confirmed by this mislynch.
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@disformation, a lot of n00bKing's thought process does come from confirmation bias so it's fine to ignore those things. He's been doing it ever since he came to TL so I don't find it strange at all.
What I want are your thoughts on Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
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On July 29 2015 10:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: I made this looong post where I drew up lists from all the voting times, people on me and other townies, my blanket list from earlier, and Damdred's thoughts that we shouldn't lynch people on the Barakos wagon. The list of people I was left with was Tictock/Breshke/scott/Sulf/ruXxar/Mage.
I read Tictock as town, scott claimed, ruXxar is 9000+ town, leaving us Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
I can post the post which I made before everyone started flip flopping through votes like fish if you guys want to see it but I decided not to post it and see how things turned out. Either way, it looks like the list is still good to go and my thoughts were only further confirmed by this mislynch. got ninjaed. Yeah, breshke super shady right now.. all the PoE's lead to Mage somehow. Kinda waffly about Sulf atm. Seeing as how Tictock was VT and no one stepped forward against scott's claim, we're forced to believe him although I still find him suspicious.
Breshke is very strange. His play is centered around forcing mislynches on people that do "weird shit". If I guessed his list it would be something like Barakos/MoosyDoosy/Tictock/ruXxar because Barakos was scum and the rest of us 3 did weird things. The only reason why he eventually moved off ruXxar was due to thread sentiment and he's still focused on me because some people's suspicion on me hasn't completely cleared away (l0l ruXxar). His continuous posts have only twisted my null read on him into a scum direction as well.
Then there's Sulfurus. I am very waffly about Sulf too because his play is nothing like when he was Mafia in the games he rolled Godfather twice but his posts are still strange. First of all, his overconfident play clashes terribly with his wrong list and I find it strange that he says that "Moosy still has to die before the game is over." So he's a null.
As for Mage. I think this might be the next lynch. He comes a bit too late to wagons, follows thread sentiments, and I have a feeling he's been trying to pocket certain players (me for example). His reads are also a bit too confident like he already knows alignments. This is a fair lynch. As a note, my stance on him did change a bit suddenly due to his post near the end of D2 where Damdred seemed to have gotten the same vibe. So he's a scum lean.
These are my thoughts.
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Thanks. At least someone is more or less on the same page as me.
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On July 29 2015 15:55 ruXxar wrote: Last mafia N00b + moosy. It makes too much sense.
N00b insisted he would've gotten moosy lynched for sure if he was mafia. Not so easy when moosy is your partner. Also he was scared as shit of getting cop checked because he's the role blocker.
Moosy is the god father. He admitted several times in the thread that he is mafia and doesn't give a shit about the game in general. His day 1 was atrocious and he had no opinion of anyone all day. He was paying 0 attention to the thread and threw ad hom attacks en masse after me. He was figuratively begging to be cop checked by his play.
Moosy, get dunked. Your "hurr durr I'm mafia" play isn't going to work any longer. You might want to take a look at my last Mafia game. And I WAS scum hunting until you came in and started tunneling in on me D1. Took me all of D1 to calm down to get to business on N1. Otherwise this argument is so faulty I doubt anyone will take it seriously besides Breshke for obvious reasons.
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Also ruXxar. Then wtf is the difference between me and you and Tictock? You were screaming to be cop checked with your poetry nonsense and Tictock with his tarot card bullshit. You're going to have to create arguments at a different angle than that.
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If anyone thinks that Rels + n00bKing isn't your townie shit fight they need to go kill themselves.
And don't make me disappointed in you disformation...I already said that I do attempt to pocket towns for my townie circle and I've been doing that this whole game except with ruXxar.
Also, if anyone thinks that I was intentionally playing scummy af because I'm Godfather, they need to clean their eyes. Bashing ruXxar is pretty standard because he is dumb and I always say things like I'm Mafia. If you want to go at that angle then you also have to take into account both ruXxar and Tictock who also did suspicious things and lynch them as well. Oh wait, we already lynched Tictock. And look how THAT turned out. lol
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^ lol thanks for realizing n00bKing. At a certain point ruXxar will refuse to listen and everything you do just becomes confirmation bias. If there was ever a king of tunneling, that person was toppled the moment that ruXxar entered TL Mafia. And then of course ruXxar gets confused when I start saying stuff like "I'm Mafia please kill me". It just gets tiring after you slam yourself into a brick wall and get nothing in return. So much to the extent that it's much more preferable to just get lynched and not put a proper effort into defending yourself as it'll amount to nothing in the end.
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On July 30 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:22 n00bKing wrote:On July 30 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote: That's fine, I'll never town-read you until you manage to explain it to me. Put yourself in my shoes. Why in the hell would I explain anything else to you, ever again? I've explained things and explained things, and explained things, and nothing ever penetrates. You just come back (EVERY time) with "Durrrr....I still don't understand!" So this is just another thing that I could explain until I'm blue in the face, and you'll either (by some miracle) still not get it, if you're Town, or pretend to not get it, if you're Scum. Moosy had the right attitude toward you all along. I'm ashamed that it took me longer to figure it out than it did for him. Remember when I said I wanted you to play in my 4th Newbie game, so my mind could be blown by the notion that someone who plays like you do could be listed as a "veteran" player? I changed my mind. Please do not participate in my 4th Newbie game. And Dear Mafia, Remember how I asked you to not kill me on Night 1, because it was my birthday? I changed my mind about that too. PLEASE kill me on Night 2. I asked the thread for ANYONE else to explain why what you said makes sense. NO ONE spoke up. So on top of me and rels not understanding it, no one else has managed to explain how what you said makes sense. Evidence is pointing towards you having a problem clearly explaining your point. The reason why no one is explaining is because everyone stopped reading because n00bKing, Rels, and you are all town and just wasting your time trying to kill each other.
I've understood n00bKing's viewpoint but you would just use your mass tunneling / confirmation bias to say "hur dur, Moosy is mafia with n00bKing he understands hur dur" which is why there's no point in me explaining.
Can you not get it or do I need to explain it more?
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On July 30 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: the town case on TT 10mins before the deadline explains it. all the day he has been talking about making a big town case. He makes it when it does not matter any more. rayn I'm disappointed in you. After you force the mislynch on n00bKing, force one on me too buddy because town is gonna lose at this rate and I don't want to take part of the blame.
That was clearly NOT what n00bKing's intention was. In his filter HE CLEARLY STATES that he WILL NOT post the case unless he absolutely has to. At that point, scott was gonna be lynched. After everyone starts flip flopping into the TT wagon does n00bKing post his Townshield case AS HE PROMISED. So no what you're saying is false.
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On July 30 2015 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: the town case on TT 10mins before the deadline explains it. all the day he has been talking about making a big town case. He makes it when it does not matter any more. rayn I'm disappointed in you. After you force the mislynch on n00bKing, force one on me too buddy because town is gonna lose at this rate and I don't want to take part of the blame. That was clearly NOT what n00bKing's intention was. In his filter HE CLEARLY STATES that he WILL NOT post the case unless he absolutely has to. At that point, scott was gonna be lynched. After everyone starts flip flopping into the TT wagon does n00bKing post his Townshield case AS HE PROMISED. So no what you're saying is false. so is "when he absolutely has to" 10min before the deadline when everyone is sleeping (or "incapable" of being here)? He says he doesn't want to have to type it out unless he absolutely has to. Obviously typing that long ass post takes time. Looking at his posts during that time he was also clearly at work which anyone can deduce so he can't check on TL Mafia all the time.
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On July 30 2015 04:38 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is obviously a smart guy. he is not playing smart. i cant explain it better. Oh, I was playing plenty smart. And while your Day 2 lynch target was godawfully wrong, I still bet mine (Sulfurus) was right on the money. And if you want to switch your lynch target to me, you'll still be godawfully wrong. And for the SAME (incredibly strong) reasons, too, which will be the most embarrassing part. You placed me in "totes Townpile" which you said was even better than Townpile! Then said you couldn't understand how anyone could scumread me. And then eventually you decided that maybe you had an association case for me and Ticktock. Yes, yes! Ticktock and n00b, that's the team! And then he flipped...Town. "n00bKing is Town, Town, Town, TOWN, Town!" "n00bKing is Scum with Ticktock!" [Ticktock flips Town] "Screw it, n00bKing is still Scum anyway!" Okay. Don't forget that I'm your scummate. If you're gonna die I'm gonna die with you because there's no point. This town is not worth saving.
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On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is obviously a smart guy. he is not playing smart. i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse.
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scott you're the one on drugs if you think that was an appeal to emotion. I'm seriously disgusted by this town right now.
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You know what I fucking give up. rayn is tunneled on n00bKing, Rels and ruXxar are gonna sheep him, rayn's gonna force disformation into voting for n00bKing again, Sulf/Breshke/Mage where the Mafia is at are going to happily sheep the case, and the game will just go downhill from there.
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Like literally the only chance this town is saved is if Damdred or disformation speak up because the rest of the town is dumb as fuck.
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On July 30 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: iam sorry for the lynch. not really though, TT was awful. noobking is mafia. mark my words. I don't know what to say if you really thought TT was Mafia. His reads were all wrong but his play was definitely townie play. There was actually no way to misread it.
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On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is obviously a smart guy. he is not playing smart. i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something.
It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one.
But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact.
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On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is obviously a smart guy. he is not playing smart. i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding. There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question.
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On July 30 2015 05:20 Rels wrote: Wow noobking and moosy are both using credibility attacks on people. Maybe you were right ruxx and that's the team.
Anyway good night all, can't see me dying over rayn so see you tomorrow. Yes we are the Mafia team. In fact, I'll make it easier for you and start a wagon on myself first thing on the next day. After I flip town perhaps THEN you'll finally come to your senses. But then I doubt it because you'll ignore the result and still lynch n00bKing.
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On July 30 2015 05:05 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 05:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: he is obviously a smart guy. he is not playing smart. i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding. There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote: Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
1 noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
2 Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. How about now? This won't make a difference because you'll use some form of confirmation bias but I'll give it a shot.
n00bKing has been widely regarded as town until you two started piling shit on him after D2. No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town. However this ended up not mattering because Damdred made everyone pile votes on scott which made him role claim.
...Is that simple enough?
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I don't see how posts like those show that n00bKing is not playing well. In fact they show that he is thinking multiple steps ahead and that he is playing smart. It's just that all of you seem to be blinding yourselves to this and just trying to force a random mislynch.
Although I might expect this out of Rels because he tends to get tunneled and ruXxar who's just dumb, I did not expects this at all from rayn.
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Yeah I'm Mafia godfather.
##Vote MoosyDoosy
All of you are fucking tools.
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Let's see where this train gets you lot LOL. ruXxar after this tirade of absolute horseshit I swear to god I will never leave you alone in a game after this because you're absolutely a fucking idiot.
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On July 30 2015 07:51 disformation wrote:Back. sry 4 being late. I dislike a lot of posts from today evening. I go like "I am not sure if all 2 mafia are in NM/Sulf/Breshke. Maybe 1 of MD or n00bKing is scum." Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 01:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 30 2015 01:29 disformation wrote: Not sure why MoosyDoosy singled me out like this when like half the players have a list very similar to mine. Like Damdred just posted his version 1 page ago. Pocketing/Buddying attempt? Prolly getting paranoid. Getting less sure about Breshke and Sulfurus. Is it NocturneMage and 1 of n00bKIng or MoosyDoosy? How would it be possible for me to be Scum, disformation? How can that reality exist, given the way that the game has played out? Are you just going to plaster a big "WIFOM" sticker over every single instance where I've done something that is detrimental to the Scum win condition? I knew Ticktock had to be Town because he and I had been step-for-step so much of the way, and there's NO chance that a Scum Ticktock plays against his own agenda so many times, in so many ways. There isn't enough WIFOM in the world to explain away all the things that he did (and I've done) that would have brought the Mafia closer to defeat, if either of us were on the team. I would really like to hear someone explain why, if I were Mafia, I would continuously be putting the dagger in my own heart. Is there even any theory at all for how that's possible, that can't simply be summarized as "WIFOM" and nothing more? This post has 0 content. Of course it is possible for him to be scum. I could be scum, too. Damdred could be scum. Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 03:31 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anyone thinks that Rels + n00bKing isn't your townie shit fight they need to go kill themselves.
And don't make me disappointed in you disformation...I already said that I do attempt to pocket towns for my townie circle and I've been doing that this whole game except with ruXxar.
Also, if anyone thinks that I was intentionally playing scummy af because I'm Godfather, they need to clean their eyes. Bashing ruXxar is pretty standard because he is dumb and I always say things like I'm Mafia. If you want to go at that angle then you also have to take into account both ruXxar and Tictock who also did suspicious things and lynch them as well. Oh wait, we already lynched Tictock. And look how THAT turned out. lol
Will add disappointment to my sig. Tempted to ask LS to give you a warning for the first line of the post. Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: You know what I fucking give up. rayn is tunneled on n00bKing, Rels and ruXxar are gonna sheep him, rayn's gonna force disformation into voting for n00bKing again, Sulf/Breshke/Mage where the Mafia is at are going to happily sheep the case, and the game will just go downhill from there. Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 04:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: Like literally the only chance this town is saved is if Damdred or disformation speak up because the rest of the town is dumb as fuck. What is the point of this posts? Tempted to lynch you, so I don't have to read high quality posts like these again. Go ahead. Vote for me for my "high quality posts". Because that's exactly what they are but none of you will read them. *shrugs* Let's see where this gets you all.
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btw I'd just like to point out that this is primarily a ruXxar push. So let's see how good ruXxar actually is at reading others by looking at the results of these lynches.
(Hint: 100% incorrect!)
This also means that you all actually listened to ruXxar after he clearly demonstrated throughout the thread that he doesn't know what he's doing.
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What's up ruXxar old buddy?
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If anything else, you all should have lynched me off of a mistake in a post I made off the basis of TMI. Here I'll provide it to you all since ya'll be so clueless:
On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. Here we see me saying with complete confidence that we have a Vigi. I say this a couple of times as well and n00bKing is the only one who picks up on it and does this:
On July 29 2015 02:39 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. Decided my response to this post is counter-productive. Flagging just so I'll have it in my own filter to remind me later. So he's the only one who saw this while the rest of you were blind and running around like headless chicken. And you're all STILL telling me you want to lynch him? right...
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Oh wait oh wait. Let me guess what ruXxar is thinking:
"They thought that far ahead which is why Moosy is able to pull it up so easily! aha!"
^ This is a full case of confirmation bias.
And should i point out Tictock's post outlining exactly WHY he's not Mafia? If you have confirmation bias, you would also read it as a Mafia doing things differently on purpose.
"But no! But no!" says ruXxar, "Moosy thought that easily ahead and planned it all out! He's matching his play to be like Tictocks when he saw the mislynch coming throught! Yeah!"
^ And here, folks, is why ruXxar is dumb.
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smh now that my anger has cooled off let me ask you all.
After re-reading through n00bKing's and mine's filters do you REALLY think that either of us can be Mafia?
Sure n00bKing has been wrong about Rels and has tunneled a bit but his play is clearly townie in the way he's trying to catch scum.
As for me, there's definitely no way for you to say I'm Mafia other than the fact that I do "weird shit". My reads have been right AND I'm trying to catch scum.
If you really think Mafia will so brazenly act in this manner then proceed with your lynches and drink your salty tears later.
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On July 30 2015 08:28 scott31337 wrote: Who do you think are the last two mafia then? Me and n00bKing.
If I'm being serious, then you all already know how I do my lynches. The people I am currently suspecting are: NocturneMage/Breshke/Sulfurus. I don't think of associative cases which is more n00bKing's thing but just narrow my list through town reads for a townie circle before looking at people outside of the circle and lynching the one that seems most scummy. However, I will definitely bet that there HAS to be at LEAST one Mafia in these 3.
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On July 30 2015 08:29 ruXxar wrote: @moosy
1) your explanation of n00bkings statement failed to explain why rels isn't the cop and also failed to explain why he wouldn't check n00bking. Would you like to try again?
2) you're claiming that n00bking knew that Scott was a cop before he claimed, yet n00bking wanted to lynch Scott after his claim because his claim was illogical. Do you see how that doesn't make sense? What's up ruXxar old buddy?
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On July 30 2015 08:29 ruXxar wrote: @moosy
1) your explanation of n00bkings statement failed to explain why rels isn't the cop and also failed to explain why he wouldn't check n00bking. Would you like to try again?
2) you're claiming that n00bking knew that Scott was a cop before he claimed, yet n00bking wanted to lynch Scott after his claim because his claim was illogical. Do you see how that doesn't make sense? To be serious, I already explained #1 but you just haven't wrapped your brain around it.
As for #2, it's very simple. scott had a likely chance of being PR BEFORE he claimed. However, afterwards, he claimed he said that he had a green check on me. Now the strange thing about this is when you look at the timeline of things. Flexes said he'd make a post then went afk for more than 24 hours. HOWEVER, this means that he had to have put in an action without having followed up on his promise to post reads and not having been active for 24 hours. Which we all found strange because he was replaced by scott. EVEN RAYN pointed this out and we can see his flip flopping before the vote went through. n00bKing also pointed this out (like rayn) which is why he was saying that scott's claim was illogical.
So for your simple brain to process #2: BEFORE CLAIM: - scott has likely chance of being PR
AFTER CLAIM: - scott says he has green check on me - It's weird that Flexes was able to put in an action because he was inactive for more than 24 hours - scott could have been lying - n00bKing and rayn point this out
AFTERWARDS: - no one counter claims -> means that scott has to be cop as weird as it may seem
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However, note that there's a very simple explanation for it all. Before night time ended, Flexes comes back into the game after being inactive, hurriedly told host that he couldn't play, asked for a replacement, and inserted an action before leaving.
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On July 30 2015 08:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: However, note that there's a very simple explanation for it all. Before night time ended, Flexes comes back into the game after being inactive, hurriedly told host that he couldn't play, asked for a replacement, and inserted an action before leaving. However, even this has its problems. This explanation relies on Flexes having asked the host for a replacement. On the other hand, if the host instead replaced Flexes automatically due to inactivity then we have a problem. Because this then means that scott is lying and that the real cop is not counter claiming.
But i don't personally think that this is the case because it's strange for the cop to not be counter claiming if scott is lying because it would be a really easy Mafia lynch. Unless it's a weird scenario where the cop wants to check more people under relative safety before going to end game where he can then counter claim and flip the tables on Mafia's heads. This is possible as well.
But before your brain implodes from too much thinking ruXxar, I'll keep it simple and say this: for now we have to believe that scott is cop because no one counterclaimed.
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For reference ruXxar here are rayn's posts who you seemed to trust so much:
Him basically asking about whether or not Flexes got replaced automatically due to inactivity or whether Flexes asked for it.
On July 29 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Waitwaitwiat. if a power role gets replaced while having not sent in an action, what happens? Is there no action or what?
rayn's flip flopping after initially realizing that scott's vote made no sense.
On July 29 2015 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont care. It doesnt make any sense at all.
The dude is in the middle of writing a reads post. He disappears, as a cop. He never comes back, gets replaced. BUT HE HAS SOMEHOW SENT IN A COP CHECK?!?!?!
rofl
On July 29 2015 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: NOBODY SENDS A COP CHECK 24H INTO DAY FUCKING ONE.
On July 29 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whatever. Lets not lynch scott then unless cc.
##unvote ##vote tictock
And n00bKing did the same thing but you want to lynch him? Right....smart thinking man.
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Alright I'm done spamming. Any more questions? Now would be a good time while I'm calm.
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Have you read all my posts ruXxar. Based on your #2 posting you haven't. If we listened to you then we should have lynched rayn too. Like your reasoning makes no sense.
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On July 30 2015 08:56 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 08:10 Damdred wrote: Did anyone besides Scott claiming rb? XD Not sure. Hey Moosy, was I roleblocked? If Moosy says I was roleblocked, I'll probably believe him. I don't know man. You might want to ask ruXxar since he's clearly right about his reads. I'm not sure if I was roleblocked either.
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On July 30 2015 08:57 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:If anything else, you all should have lynched me off of a mistake in a post I made off the basis of TMI. Here I'll provide it to you all since ya'll be so clueless: On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. Here we see me saying with complete confidence that we have a Vigi. I say this a couple of times as well and n00bKing is the only one who picks up on it and does this: On July 29 2015 02:39 n00bKing wrote:On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. Decided my response to this post is counter-productive. Flagging just so I'll have it in my own filter to remind me later. So he's the only one who saw this while the rest of you were blind and running around like headless chicken. And you're all STILL telling me you want to lynch him? right... It's Cuz WIFOM, Moosy! Just like a million zillion other things I've posted in this game that fail to further a Scum agenda, I must have done it Cuz WIFOM.
On July 30 2015 08:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: Oh wait oh wait. Let me guess what ruXxar is thinking:
"They thought that far ahead which is why Moosy is able to pull it up so easily! aha!"
^ This is a full case of confirmation bias.
And should i point out Tictock's post outlining exactly WHY he's not Mafia? If you have confirmation bias, you would also read it as a Mafia doing things differently on purpose.
"But no! But no!" says ruXxar, "Moosy thought that easily ahead and planned it all out! He's matching his play to be like Tictocks when he saw the mislynch coming throught! Yeah!"
^ And here, folks, is why ruXxar is dumb. Here ya go man.
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On July 30 2015 09:08 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: Have you read all my posts ruXxar. Based on your #2 posting you haven't. If we listened to you then we should have lynched rayn too. Like your reasoning makes no sense. Except according to you(n00bking has yet to confirm that what you're saying is correct) noob already thought that Scott was cop, so why would he then say his claim is illogical? He should've been expecting it and be happy to see that he was right. This has both rayn AND n00bKing in it for your benefit.
On July 29 2015 06:53 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 29 2015 06:52 Sulfurus wrote: Wait are you guys saying Scott's claim would be more believable if he didn't have a check? Yes. *nod*
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It would have been more believable if there hadn't been an action because it's strange that Flexes would have put in an action after 24 hours of inactivity.
If there HADN'T been an action then it would DEFINITELY be believable.
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On July 30 2015 09:12 ruXxar wrote: I'm signing out for the night guys. Stay strong town, we are on the cusp of winning this.
N00bking + moosy last mafia. You can write that on my grave stone. Sigh...and ruXxar still tunnels and refuses to listen when he's refuted. At this point I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that ruXxar is a dumb.
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On July 30 2015 09:12 ruXxar wrote: N00bking + moosy last mafia. You can write that on my grave stone. Give me your address. I'm not kidding. Stupid people don't deserve to live.
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And there goes my calm mood. If anyone has read page 91 and has a question they can ask as long as they're not an idiot.
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asdf;lkj Calmed down a bit. I've already posted about Breshke/NocturneMage/Sulfurus being my top suspects. I'll look over their filters again. I'll look over EVERYONE'S filters again.
I RECOMMEND others (looking at you Rels) to look at PAGE 91 and ask themselves if ruXxar is making any sense whatsoever. Then to make a judgment from there.
That is all.
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On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote: Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR.
On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing.
On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go.
On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info".
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Also Damdred, you were wrong that a Mafia wasn't on the Barakos wagon. The list of possible suspects was scott/ruXxar/Tictock/Moosy. I'm town, Tictock was town, ruXxar's town, and scott is cop. Which means both Mafia were on the Barakos wagon. I sincerely doubt that both Mafia voted at the same time so I'm looking at people who voted at different times. If we go by my suspect list which is Breshke/Sulf/NocturneMage, we see that Breshke and Sulf voted next to each other. So NocturneMage is very suspicious.
To comment on his read pattern, he consistently town reads me while not really commenting on anyone else. He also tries to lynch Tictock/Sulfurus/ruXxar/scott while laying suspicion on Breshke. I'm guessing his attempt to town read me was to gain town cred on the chance that I got lynched while attempting to pocket me. Unfortunately he mentioned me far too much for my liking.
I'm interested to see how his flip turns out. If he's Mafia, then we have to look at his associations with others and who he does and doesn't lay suspicion on in terms with thread sentiment. (If he's Mafia he bused Barakos following thread sentiment)
But after looking over things I STRONGLY think that tinfoil will be necessary here. Just a feeling.
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On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote: Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity.
I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)".
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On July 30 2015 11:19 Damdred wrote: Lol you don't vote off people who lynched mafia usually the day after you lynch mafia shrug Well that's not exactly how it worked in the last game that I played. We looked over the lists and determined who was town and not before deciding not to lynch the people on the Mafia. Noted for now.
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On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote: Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving.
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On July 30 2015 12:27 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote: Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving. Im not saying I have been around if you wantto push me for that push me. Why did you not mention that you very strongly thought scott was a PR when he was about to be lynched? Clearly damdred did not know this so why not tell him instead of blindly sheeping him. You don't have tor espond to that moosey because I don't really see how you can explain it but basically your story does not check out at all. Damdred would only not know that if he did the same thing as you and didn't read the thread. I stated that scott could be a PR and others such as Rels did so as well. So there is no reason for you not to have read it. I first thought that scott was PR from what someone (I believe Rels?) said.
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You blame me for not reading the thread when you show that you have not read properly two times in a row.
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On July 30 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote: Also im not trying to push tmi you saying you knew scott was the cop I understand that you probably meant you knew scott was a PR ...I actually said that we had a vigi. I never said anything about a cop...
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this is the 3rd time....
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I kept on making references to a "dumb vigi" or "vigi as scott". I don't see where I said cop until after scott claimed...
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On July 30 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote: Moosey i honestly don't care if you thought there was a vigi or a cop like I said im not pushing this because its dumb and you trying to say it's a reason for you to be town is laughable. ...that's post claim so obviously we knew scott was cop then.
No, I'm not trying to claim town. I'm just pointing out how you're reading everything wrong.
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Like how is this difficult to understand. First quote was pre-claim so you see my talking about Vigilantes. Second quote is post-claim so you see my saying scott was cop because we now know his role.
You're either intentionally reading what i'm saying wrong or being "obtuse".
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So you literally just read what I said wrong 3 times in a row and/or out of context. Like congrats. You're a good townie.
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k good luck town I'm done here. What Breshke is saying has just convinced me that this town is not worth saying.
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I've put all the pieces in place for town. I've even mentioned tinfoil. It doesn't get better than this. gl town. This is my last post. bii~
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So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on
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btw breezy, off the cut comments =/= prepared, well thought out post. So you did contradict yourself there.
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We all knew that scott had a chance of being PR. It was stated multiple times by me and others as well. If you hadn't read it then you're doing a bad job as town. As to why we have a PR Rels, go to page 91 where I dunk ruXxar into the ground but he runs away because he can't refute my points there.
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Unfortunately your argument against n00bKing is all refutable. Your only good point is #4 but ruXxar was the one to ask that question and neither of us wish to answer questions from ruXxar for reasons stated before and as clearly demonstrated in Page 91. As for Point #5, you're guilty of that as well so you can't really say that without being hypocritical.
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On July 31 2015 01:31 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: We all knew that scott had a chance of being PR. It was stated multiple times by me and others as well. If you hadn't read it then you're doing a bad job as town. As to why we have a PR Rels, go to page 91 where I dunk ruXxar into the ground but he runs away because he can't refute my points there. So you are saying: 1 - noobking knew Scott had a chance at being pr 2 - when Scott claimed noobking called his claim illogical 3 - noobking was OK to lynch Scott over tictock Confirm ? Not saying that exactly. Saying this:
On July 30 2015 08:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:So for your simple brain to process #2: BEFORE CLAIM: - scott has likely chance of being PR
AFTER CLAIM: - scott says he has green check on me - It's weird that Flexes was able to put in an action because he was inactive for more than 24 hours - scott could have been lying - n00bKing and rayn point this out
AFTERWARDS: - no one counter claims -> means that scott has to be cop as weird as it may seem
On July 30 2015 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:For reference ruXxar here are rayn's posts who you seemed to trust so much: Him basically asking about whether or not Flexes got replaced automatically due to inactivity or whether Flexes asked for it. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Waitwaitwiat. if a power role gets replaced while having not sent in an action, what happens? Is there no action or what? rayn's flip flopping after initially realizing that scott's vote made no sense. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont care. It doesnt make any sense at all.
The dude is in the middle of writing a reads post. He disappears, as a cop. He never comes back, gets replaced. BUT HE HAS SOMEHOW SENT IN A COP CHECK?!?!?!
rofl Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: NOBODY SENDS A COP CHECK 24H INTO DAY FUCKING ONE. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whatever. Lets not lynch scott then unless cc.
##unvote ##vote tictock And n00bKing did the same thing but you want to lynch him? Right....smart thinking man.
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On July 31 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on Wrong.
On July 30 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard ...
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So...you're saying Rels is wrong? Good to know.
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On July 31 2015 01:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: Unfortunately your argument against n00bKing is all refutable. Your only good point is #4 but ruXxar was the one to ask that question and neither of us wish to answer questions from ruXxar for reasons stated before and as clearly demonstrated in Page 91. As for Point #5, you're guilty of that as well so you can't really say that without being hypocritical. That's fine. This game is already over for me. Just the formalities left at this point. Good. In that case why don't you be gracious and not be a dick? I'm trying to hold my anger in but you're not helping. Thank you.
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On July 31 2015 01:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: Unfortunately your argument against n00bKing is all refutable. Your only good point is #4 but ruXxar was the one to ask that question and neither of us wish to answer questions from ruXxar for reasons stated before and as clearly demonstrated in Page 91. As for Point #5, you're guilty of that as well so you can't really say that without being hypocritical. That's fine. This game is already over for me. Just the formalities left at this point. Good. In that case why don't you be gracious and not be a dick? I'm trying to hold my anger in but you're not helping. Thank you. Real talk though moosy. I have no ill feeling towards you. I still love playing with you. Next game we're gonna wreck scum ok? <3 Next game you're going to tunnel in on me again. This is my second game as townie with you and you still tunnel in on me. This is my standard townie play. If you think I'm scum for it you're going to think I'm scum for it in our next game.
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On July 31 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on Wrong. On July 30 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard ... It's not the fact that he defend tictock. It's the way he defended him, which you failed to mention at all. Yes. Rels is saying that n00bKing defended Tictock too hard. Which for some reason you have a problem with.
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On July 31 2015 01:59 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: Unfortunately your argument against n00bKing is all refutable. Your only good point is #4 but ruXxar was the one to ask that question and neither of us wish to answer questions from ruXxar for reasons stated before and as clearly demonstrated in Page 91. As for Point #5, you're guilty of that as well so you can't really say that without being hypocritical. That's fine. This game is already over for me. Just the formalities left at this point. Good. In that case why don't you be gracious and not be a dick? I'm trying to hold my anger in but you're not helping. Thank you. Real talk though moosy. I have no ill feeling towards you. I still love playing with you. Next game we're gonna wreck scum ok? <3 Next game you're going to tunnel in on me again. This is my second game as townie with you and you still tunnel in on me. This is my standard townie play. If you think I'm scum for it you're going to think I'm scum for it in our next game. No moosy. I know you have to say this not to go against your win condition, but I know your playstyle, and you play different as town. Being afk all day 1 and ad hom attacks? That's not you moosy, you are better than that and I know it. I know you have a lot of respect for n00bking from our first game, I also have a ton of respect for n00bking. I'm not going to hold this game against you both. I know you have to do dirty things as mafia. Believe me, I hate rolling mafia too. I thought it would be fun, but no, it's boring as shit. I won't tunnel on you next game if you are town moosy. I do have a lot of respect for you and being part of my first mafia game you will always hold a special place in my heart. I still remember your insane accurate read of me in the first game, I had tears in my eyes when I read how you were describing my mentality. I had goosebumps knowing that you could read me like that. Someone that actually gets me. Well moosy, I've said before how this game makes you do shitty stuff, and for me personally it feels really unnatural to say these things since it's nothing like my personality in real life. So yeah, that's my lifestory. I hope we both roll town next game and we'll tag team fuck up those scums <3. No you're the one who's wrong. I am a town. I am literally asking LightningStrike for a modkill right now so that I will flip and you guys will see it and not waste this day on mislynching n00bKing.
I can still read you plain as day in this game too. And anyone's play evolves. My play has evolved into this. You either hate it or leave it.
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On July 31 2015 02:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 01:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on Wrong. On July 30 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard ... It's not the fact that he defend tictock. It's the way he defended him, which you failed to mention at all. Yes. Rels is saying that n00bKing defended Tictock too hard. Which for some reason you have a problem with. Here's the problem moosy, let me make it clear: 1) YOU say that n00bking KNEW that scott was cop. 2) WHEN scott claims cop, n00king STILL wants to vote for him when he is un-CC'd. So either you're wrong about n00bking, or n00bking is doing something completely illogical and against town win condition. I already explained this before you went to sleep.
I even quoted how rayn was thinking the same thing and quoted his posts where he was saying the same thing is n00bKing.
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On July 31 2015 02:08 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on Wrong. On July 30 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard ... It's not the fact that he defend tictock. It's the way he defended him, which you failed to mention at all. Yes. Rels is saying that n00bKing defended Tictock too hard. Which for some reason you have a problem with. Here's the problem moosy, let me make it clear: 1) YOU say that n00bking KNEW that scott was cop. 2) WHEN scott claims cop, n00king STILL wants to vote for him when he is un-CC'd. So either you're wrong about n00bking, or n00bking is doing something completely illogical and against town win condition. I already explained this before you went to sleep. I even quoted how rayn was thinking the same thing and quoted his posts where he was saying the same thing is n00bKing. The difference is that Rayn didn't KNOW that scott was cop beforehand, which you say that n00bking did. 1) I said that we all knew that scott had a possibility of being PR. Obviously after scott claimed we know he's a cop now.
2) This was already explained and I quoted where even rayn had the same thought process.
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On July 31 2015 02:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:59 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: Unfortunately your argument against n00bKing is all refutable. Your only good point is #4 but ruXxar was the one to ask that question and neither of us wish to answer questions from ruXxar for reasons stated before and as clearly demonstrated in Page 91. As for Point #5, you're guilty of that as well so you can't really say that without being hypocritical. That's fine. This game is already over for me. Just the formalities left at this point. Good. In that case why don't you be gracious and not be a dick? I'm trying to hold my anger in but you're not helping. Thank you. Real talk though moosy. I have no ill feeling towards you. I still love playing with you. Next game we're gonna wreck scum ok? <3 Next game you're going to tunnel in on me again. This is my second game as townie with you and you still tunnel in on me. This is my standard townie play. If you think I'm scum for it you're going to think I'm scum for it in our next game. No moosy. I know you have to say this not to go against your win condition, but I know your playstyle, and you play different as town. Being afk all day 1 and ad hom attacks? That's not you moosy, you are better than that and I know it. I know you have a lot of respect for n00bking from our first game, I also have a ton of respect for n00bking. I'm not going to hold this game against you both. I know you have to do dirty things as mafia. Believe me, I hate rolling mafia too. I thought it would be fun, but no, it's boring as shit. I won't tunnel on you next game if you are town moosy. I do have a lot of respect for you and being part of my first mafia game you will always hold a special place in my heart. I still remember your insane accurate read of me in the first game, I had tears in my eyes when I read how you were describing my mentality. I had goosebumps knowing that you could read me like that. Someone that actually gets me. Well moosy, I've said before how this game makes you do shitty stuff, and for me personally it feels really unnatural to say these things since it's nothing like my personality in real life. So yeah, that's my lifestory. I hope we both roll town next game and we'll tag team fuck up those scums <3. No you're the one who's wrong. I am a town. I am literally asking LightningStrike for a modkill right now so that I will flip and you guys will see it and not waste this day on mislynching n00bKing. I can still read you plain as day in this game too. And anyone's play evolves. My play has evolved into this. You either hate it or leave it. OK. Waiting for this to happen then. Will not directly to you anymore until it happens. That s good for noobking too. Might attack your defense if townies start to believe you. I'm giving out all my hints before LightningStrike reads my PM. My win condition is for town to win and I'm literally asking for a modkill for us to win even if it means I get banned from TL Mafia......and it's all because you people won't listen.
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On July 31 2015 02:09 scott31337 wrote: Why don't you make a case on who you believe is mafia then? See this is where I'm confused too. I've been saying that a Mafia is in Breshke/Sulf/NocturneMage. And I do think that one Mafia is in here. But if we manage to lynch the right one, due to alignment reads, none of them can be teammates. Which means that there has to be a scum hiding somewhere in the townie circle I set up. It's a bad feeling but it's akin to the feeling I got from my first Mafia Newbie game where two of my townie circle ended up being Mafia. And my feelings have been right for all of this game so I'm inclined to follow them but if I post my thoughts people will actually lynch me for them. Which is why I've been saying that you townies should grab your tinfoil because you'll need them.
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On July 31 2015 02:16 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:08 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 02:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: So according to Rels, n00bKing is Mafia because he tried hard to defend Tictock while according to Breshke I'm Mafia because I didn't do much to defend Tictock besides saying he's going to flip town.
k carry on Wrong. On July 30 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard ... It's not the fact that he defend tictock. It's the way he defended him, which you failed to mention at all. Yes. Rels is saying that n00bKing defended Tictock too hard. Which for some reason you have a problem with. Here's the problem moosy, let me make it clear: 1) YOU say that n00bking KNEW that scott was cop. 2) WHEN scott claims cop, n00king STILL wants to vote for him when he is un-CC'd. So either you're wrong about n00bking, or n00bking is doing something completely illogical and against town win condition. I already explained this before you went to sleep. I even quoted how rayn was thinking the same thing and quoted his posts where he was saying the same thing is n00bKing. The difference is that Rayn didn't KNOW that scott was cop beforehand, which you say that n00bking did. 1) I said that we all knew that scott had a possibility of being PR. Obviously after scott claimed we know he's a cop now. 2) This was already explained and I quoted where even rayn had the same thought process. 1) Wrong. I had NO IDEA or SUSPICIONS that scott was cop. Please QUOTE where EVERYONE suspected that scott was a PR. Thank you. Well then, of course not you.
What I meant to say was everyone who read my posts about how scott could be a PR and stopped to think for a moment and used their brains.
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On July 31 2015 02:27 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:23 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:08 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 02:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2015 01:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote: [quote]
It's not the fact that he defend tictock. It's the way he defended him, which you failed to mention at all. Yes. Rels is saying that n00bKing defended Tictock too hard. Which for some reason you have a problem with. Here's the problem moosy, let me make it clear: 1) YOU say that n00bking KNEW that scott was cop. 2) WHEN scott claims cop, n00king STILL wants to vote for him when he is un-CC'd. So either you're wrong about n00bking, or n00bking is doing something completely illogical and against town win condition. I already explained this before you went to sleep. I even quoted how rayn was thinking the same thing and quoted his posts where he was saying the same thing is n00bKing. The difference is that Rayn didn't KNOW that scott was cop beforehand, which you say that n00bking did. 1) I said that we all knew that scott had a possibility of being PR. Obviously after scott claimed we know he's a cop now. 2) This was already explained and I quoted where even rayn had the same thought process. 1) Wrong. I had NO IDEA or SUSPICIONS that scott was cop. Please QUOTE where EVERYONE suspected that scott was a PR. Thank you. Well then, of course not you. What I meant to say was everyone who read my posts about how scott could be a PR and stopped to think for a moment and used their brains. EVERYONE WHO SUSPECTED SCOTT WAS COP BASED ON MOOSYS POSTS PLEASE REPORT IN. IT'S YOUR TOWN DUTY.Thank you. I can't wait for the overwhelming response to this If no one responds that means no on read or no one thought. Which is bad for town in both ways. I'm pretty sure rayn caught on based on his posts but he's dead so I guess he can't help me out.
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On July 31 2015 02:33 Rels wrote:Wow you're so active ruxx pretty cool If you guys want I can get you two a night in a hotel together.
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On July 31 2015 02:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:33 Rels wrote:Wow you're so active ruxx pretty cool If you guys want I can get you two a night in a hotel together. Yeah will need that if I wait until LS read your inexistent PM. No it exists. If not I'll just make another post about killing ruXxar and then he'll have to modkill me.
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On July 31 2015 02:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 02:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 31 2015 02:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:33 Rels wrote:Wow you're so active ruxx pretty cool If you guys want I can get you two a night in a hotel together. Yeah will need that if I wait until LS read your inexistent PM. No it exists. If not I'll just make another post about killing ruXxar and then he'll have to modkill me. Can't wait to see that. (= I just hope you come to your senses after I flip town rather than being a sarcastic little prick like you are now.
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On July 31 2015 02:58 Rels wrote: Seriously though.
This Moosy attitude is the opposite of townie
Here is what a townie would do: Choice 1: not sure about Rels' case, but use one of the remaining mislynches on noobking to check. Choice 2: Rels' case is super wrong: fight against it and push his own case. Choice 3: Rels' case is so wrong it can only be explained by Rels being mafia: make a case on Rels and push him.
Here is what a townie would not do: Martyring. Menacing to get modkilled. Ad hom attacks. So...how dumb are you going to feel when I flip town? Anyone would resort to ad hom attacks after everyone literally just says that they didn't listen to your posts and that they won't listen to your reasoning. And I already did do Choice 2...But you won't read it and listen to my reasoning...Oh wait. That sounds familiar...
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On July 31 2015 03:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:58 Rels wrote: Seriously though.
This Moosy attitude is the opposite of townie
Here is what a townie would do: Choice 1: not sure about Rels' case, but use one of the remaining mislynches on noobking to check. Choice 2: Rels' case is super wrong: fight against it and push his own case. Choice 3: Rels' case is so wrong it can only be explained by Rels being mafia: make a case on Rels and push him.
Here is what a townie would not do: Martyring. Menacing to get modkilled. Ad hom attacks. So...how dumb are you going to feel when I flip town? Anyone would resort to ad hom attacks after everyone literally just says that they didn't listen to your posts and that they won't listen to your reasoning. And I already did do Choice 2...But you won't read it and listen to my reasoning...Oh wait. That sounds familiar... I will be very angry at you for playing like that: Martyring. Menacing to get modkilled. Ad hom attacks. Still can't wait for it though. See. You're already ignoring how I said I already performed Choice 2. I also warned you about tunneling but you won't listen. I literally warned all 3 people who tunneled to not tunnel. You, n00bKing, and ruXxar.
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Epitaph Post Now That I Have Flipped:
ggz all it was fun playing. I'm glad to see town is winning this. ^.^
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I don't want to play a game with ruXxar again so long as he promises not to behave the way he does.
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I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them.
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On August 04 2015 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them. well the first paragraph is just not true. k my coach was wrong then. I'll think like scum and make myself look townie as possible next game. Thanks for the advice.
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On August 04 2015 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: If your coach told you to shout to ruxxar all game long for no fucking reason he is just an asshole. Do you know our history? In our first newbie game he acted the same way to me and didn't listen at all to anyone or me.
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Every response was literally: "cuz ur scum yeah. really obvious buddy lol. mafia 200% mate ur points are garbage."
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On August 04 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not care about your history. Why should that matter? You were all on his throat for no reason all game.
It's bad. Why should i care about your advice either?
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On August 04 2015 09:37 Breshke wrote: Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
I was trying to do that at some points but gave up later on lol. I also knew where this was going because I was actually very reasonable in our first game together but he refused to listen. In this one I just saved time and bashed him earlier.
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On August 04 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 04 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not care about your history. Why should that matter? You were all on his throat for no reason all game.
It's bad. Why should i care about your advice either? Because apparently you are bad. idk, do not take it, i dont care.. you certainly do not do what you are told to so you will not anyways. I am very open to suggestions about how to play Mafia so long as they are not phrased as: u suck l2p
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On August 04 2015 09:42 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them. Here's the thing that's hard to remember in the moment. Even when you say whatever you want as town, it doesn't make what he's doing wrong. He had a bad read on you. But how you approached that read, made it exceptionally hard for him to get out of his biased read. Being tunneled and biased can be quite hard to get away from; and it takes both players working together to end that situation generally. It's honestly both your faults imo, but I had no stake in the issue so that's easy for me to see. To be fair, ruXxar/Rels got tunneled on mafia for a mix of good and bad reasons. You got tunneled on a bad read which drug the whole issue out in a really negative way. Like if you had evaluated some of their reasons, you could've gotten out of your bad read. If n00bKing was town, if you had approached them differently then you potentially could have prevented a mislynch by being able to explain your read in a way they could understand and relate to. Trust me, me and Rayn are two of the more cockshore, shoot from the hip, likely-to-shoot-off-for-no-good-reason type of guys around at this point. But if you want to improve, then you need to understand that how you approach the game and other players (even when you're town) makes a major difference on how effective you are. I can't speak for Rayn, but I know that Artanis has said this about me and it's something that I've noted about myself. I play much better when I don't emotionally invest heavily into a game. When I'm at my best, I give very few fucks about it. When I get that invested, it's easy to slip into an awful tunnel that I can and should find my way out of. Part of that is listening to other players, both the ones you're arguing with at the time and other players observing you. Thank you. So long as ruXxar is willing to re-evaluate his reads and not throw them aside like garbage I will do the same as well.
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On August 04 2015 09:40 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 04 2015 09:37 Breshke wrote: Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
I was trying to do that at some points but gave up later on lol. I also knew where this was going because I was actually very reasonable in our first game together but he refused to listen. In this one I just saved time and bashed him earlier. Ruxxar is one player though so I don't see why you would stop pushing your reads because of him I don't know. Maybe because the only players posting the whole time were ruXxar/Rels while you were literally nonexistent.
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On August 04 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote + can't speak for Rayn, but I know that Artanis has said this about me and it's something that I've noted about myself. I play much better when I don't emotionally invest heavily into a game. yes you seem to be the same Moosy. Take a break, read, and then post. You so not need to tunnel someone you think is bad. It almost got you lynched two days in a row. Now what does that tell you? Take a break from a game and re-evaluate. Come back with a leveled head. Yeah. And I've decided to play my next game from a scum mindset of making myself look as townie as possible.
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On August 04 2015 10:52 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:07 ruXxar wrote: I want to also apologize if people found my play style offensive. I harbor no I'll will towards anyone for what they said or did in the game(moosy plz I love u <3) This might be my favorite post in the thread. Moosy demands your address so that he can come and murder you in your home. And you apologize and ask for forgiveness. :D Not to mention he makes several bad manner posts saying the game is over and sweeping everything I say under the rug. <3 I just love the kid.
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On August 04 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:Moosy: so angry at you. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, the way you behaved this game was super toxic. Of course, it isn't helped by the fact that you were dead wrong on that noobking godly read. And I'm not talking about only D2. If I was the host, I would have warned you D1 when you clearly stated you thought ruxxar was a stupid person unable to have smart thoughts. The way you treated people, and especially ruxxar who played a million times better than you, is sooo bad, and I'm shocked Damdred tought a warning was fine. Plus you whining about people not reading your posts; WTF, you cannot answer every accusation by "I'm mafia" and some versions of "you're tard" and expect people to read what you wrote. Furthermore, your martyring was hilarious. Especially complaining about me being tunneled. If you have read the game, you would have seen that Breshke (that was voting you along with diso) asked me whom of noobking and moosy was 100% mafia, and I clearly stated noobking was, and that if I was wrong on moosy NM was the last mafia. Finally, your post-game posts not being "I apologize" but "I won't play with ruxxar again unless he changed" is the last drop. Never playing with you again. k. I'm glad we barely interacted at all in this game too. Have fun in the future.
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On August 04 2015 23:59 Damdred wrote: Though I laughed a bit to hard at my own joke when you made that great post rux and I posted rux made god post must be mafia l0l best post ever.
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