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On July 23 2015 00:51 Rels wrote: Wow this looks more and more like my first game.
And I'm loving it (= ^ Glad to see you're joining us ruXxar.
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The cold never bothered me anyway...
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^^^
[Definitely not trying to pocket players. ]
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ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone.
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On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die.
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On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Then I will be honored to be in your company. Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote: Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum. Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed. Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif) Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one. If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous.. In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum. My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt. It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own. If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions. The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Wow it took you two/three games to realize this? I kept on pointing it out for you in our first game together and all you did was brush it aside.
For anyone else wondering, his tunneling hard on me was really bad. Like REALLY bad. This was basically his posts against me: "I think he's Mafia so if I read his posts, his first few pages show that he's tryhard townie then this post 15 pages later is him scum slipping because of this post now which when compared to the other post a couple pages back.
Meanwhile he was changing his vote every time a new wagon popped up. Yeh you can say I'm a bit biased against ruXxar so you better be careful buddy. The moment I see a scum slip you're done for.
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ayeeE this is our 3rd game together n00bKing.
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Breshke is this ur first game of TL Mafia.
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On July 24 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:05 MoosyDoosy wrote: ayeeE this is our 3rd game together n00bKing. Yep, and my 3rd game total! I noticed ruXxar said this is his 4th game. I need to make sure he plays in my 4th Newbie game, so that I can see him listed as a "Veteran" and my mind can = blown. PS: Are you Scum? Yeah it's my 3rd game total too. <3 I need to do that too. Let's plan it together.
PS: I am scum. tbh it doesn't matter what I say since you call my alignment out right every time. -.-
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On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote: hi everybody. i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw.
i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless. i still think you cannot tell either way though. moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me. False, I'm not pointing fingers I'm giving useless information and trying to pocket n00bKing. The one who's point fingers is n00bKing.
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^ Don't let that discourage you tho. You'll start distinguishing the fluff from the real posts over the course of the game. Just read every post carefully and try not to let biases get in your way.
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On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game. The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards. Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach. Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it. I need to engage in my own way. Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun. In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless. Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote: Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI. Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs* But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
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On that note n00bKing you seem a lot more friendly in this game than in others. At least you're posting a lot more fluff here and responding to more stuff than going down to business like you normally would. Any particular reason why?
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/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times.
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Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well.
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On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. Why would he be "obtuse" about something he was saying ruXxar when he's asking about what I said about you? They're two separate things. Hm?
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about something he was saying about ruXxar*
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His read on ruXxar has nothing to do with my thoughts on you. Unless you're being cautious about what exactly you wrote about ruXxar? Thanks man.
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Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.
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