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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 29 2015 16:29 GMT
#1700
On July 29 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thanks. At least someone is more or less on the same page as me.


Not sure why MoosyDoosy singled me out like this when like half the players have a list very similar to mine. Like Damdred just posted his version 1 page ago. Pocketing/Buddying attempt? Prolly getting paranoid.
Getting less sure about Breshke and Sulfurus.
Is it NocturneMage and 1 of n00bKIng or MoosyDoosy?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 29 2015 18:17 GMT
#1713
Not sure I like n00bKing's reaction to my suggestion he might be mafia...
recap:
prolly 1+ of:
Sulfurus, Breshke, NocturneMage
Maybeeee 1of:
MoosyDoosy, n00bKing

(unless scott fakeclaimed obv)

need to reevaluate my reevaluation of my reevaluation.
watching that ant man thing now. will be back in like 3hours.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 29 2015 22:51 GMT
#1789
Back. sry 4 being late.
I dislike a lot of posts from today evening.
I go like "I am not sure if all 2 mafia are in NM/Sulf/Breshke. Maybe 1 of MD or n00bKing is scum."

On July 30 2015 01:47 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:29 disformation wrote:
Not sure why MoosyDoosy singled me out like this when like half the players have a list very similar to mine. Like Damdred just posted his version 1 page ago. Pocketing/Buddying attempt? Prolly getting paranoid.
Getting less sure about Breshke and Sulfurus.
Is it NocturneMage and 1 of n00bKIng or MoosyDoosy?

How would it be possible for me to be Scum, disformation? How can that reality exist, given the way that the game has played out? Are you just going to plaster a big "WIFOM" sticker over every single instance where I've done something that is detrimental to the Scum win condition? I knew Ticktock had to be Town because he and I had been step-for-step so much of the way, and there's NO chance that a Scum Ticktock plays against his own agenda so many times, in so many ways. There isn't enough WIFOM in the world to explain away all the things that he did (and I've done) that would have brought the Mafia closer to defeat, if either of us were on the team. I would really like to hear someone explain why, if I were Mafia, I would continuously be putting the dagger in my own heart. Is there even any theory at all for how that's possible, that can't simply be summarized as "WIFOM" and nothing more?

This post has 0 content. Of course it is possible for him to be scum. I could be scum, too. Damdred could be scum.

On July 30 2015 03:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If anyone thinks that Rels + n00bKing isn't your townie shit fight they need to go kill themselves.

And don't make me disappointed in you disformation...I already said that I do attempt to pocket towns for my townie circle and I've been doing that this whole game except with ruXxar.

Also, if anyone thinks that I was intentionally playing scummy af because I'm Godfather, they need to clean their eyes. Bashing ruXxar is pretty standard because he is dumb and I always say things like I'm Mafia. If you want to go at that angle then you also have to take into account both ruXxar and Tictock who also did suspicious things and lynch them as well. Oh wait, we already lynched Tictock. And look how THAT turned out. lol



Will add disappointment to my sig.
Tempted to ask LS to give you a warning for the first line of the post.

On July 30 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
You know what I fucking give up. rayn is tunneled on n00bKing, Rels and ruXxar are gonna sheep him, rayn's gonna force disformation into voting for n00bKing again, Sulf/Breshke/Mage where the Mafia is at are going to happily sheep the case, and the game will just go downhill from there.

On July 30 2015 04:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like literally the only chance this town is saved is if Damdred or disformation speak up because the rest of the town is dumb as fuck.


What is the point of this posts? Tempted to lynch you, so I don't have to read high quality posts like these again.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 12:26 GMT
#1872
Had to step away from the thread yesterday. A few quick thoughts from work:
  • Not fond of lynching breshke anymore.
  • Basically leaving me with: Sulfurus, NocturneMage, MoosyDoosy and n00bKing (Note that before the last few pages I had a town lean on MoosyDoosy and n00bKing).
  • If Sulfurus was spot on with his D1 PoE I will never lynch that guy again (might be exaggerating here).


Will read MoosyDoosy and n00bKing again today evening.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 14:04 GMT
#1874
On July 30 2015 22:58 Breshke wrote:
So the reason i asked Rels who he scumread more was because I think a team of Moosy and N00bking is kind of weird specifically because of how different moosys answer was about the Rels RB thing.


Also if they both were mafia hardcore defending each other like this would be super bad play.
I rather dislike MD for his recent posts, but will look at both their filters do determine who actually looks more scummy. Probably will axe them a few questions because I am not quite sure what really triggered the wave of bad posts.

Though MD first saying he is trying to pocket/buddy all the town ppl and then proceeding to insult everyone is kinda... something. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 18:12 GMT
#1930
So. MoosyDoosy:


D1
  • Nice meta points on ruXxar http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=12#223
  • Nice interaction with Breshke http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=12#223
  • Super strange post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=32#624
  • Spends rest of D1 hating on ruXxar
  • No Reads, No Pushes, No Cases, No vote



N1
  • Starts putting out lists and reads here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=46#907
  • Some "I am mafia" posts
  • "Well my list leaves Tictock, Breshke, NocturneMage, Flexes, and Sulfurus."



D2
  • Wants to lynch Sulf over TT http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=56#1107
  • Switches his read on TT to town, says Scott has a good chance at being Vigi http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=56#1107
  • Suddenly dead sure about TT http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=71#1415
  • Sheeps Damdred onto scott despite saying that scott has a good chance at being vigi and removing him from his suspect list earlier... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=73#1454
  • Says he is not a fan of this lynch... preparing for scott to flip town? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=74#1462
  • Very suspicious of the scott claim... didn't he say scott had a good chance at being vigi earlier... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=79#1568
  • When he was THIS sure about TT's alignment, what did he to prevent the lynch? Yeah he voted Sulf and NM, but I can't see him trying to push that lynch or try to convince other ppl...



N2
  • Still doesn't believe scott http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=83#1654
  • But won't lynch because no CC
  • Read list of ppl he would lynch... notice how waffly that is... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=83#1660
  • Then the "great posts" start



D3
  • Semi case on NM, but doesn't votes and leaves room to jump on tinfoil theories http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=92#1836



So. N2 MoosyDoosy appears to be super mad about the TT lynch, whom he seemingly had a godly town read on, but he didn't do much to avert. Then he gets super mad when people seem suspicious of either him and/or n00bKing who he also appears to have a godly town read on. Unfortunately from reading his filter I am not quite sure where this godly town read on n00bKing comes from (last mention was N1 when he reread n00bKing's filter).

Question:
MoosyDoosy can you explain your godly town read on n00bKing?
Can you explain your godly town read on n00bKing, without the use of meta?
Can you explain over what exactly got you so angry N2+D3? Like... n00bKing got like two votes and some ppl are suspicious of you and/or n00bKing and you proceed to overreact much?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 18:54 GMT
#1947
On July 31 2015 03:45 n00bKing wrote:
Like, what kind of productive Town player uses threats and blackmail against another player, to try and extract information that should not be made public anyway? lol


I do not understand. Can you gives examples?
Like I seriously don't know what information town should hide from town. Unless you know... PR and stuff. But 4 example if you have a read on someone and I don't understand the read and you don't want to explain the read. I think you are super scummy.

TBH I could use a summary of that whole argument, because I can hardly grasp what it is about anyway. xD

Probably down with a NocturneMage lynch today though. He hasn't shown up the last two days I think?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 18:57 GMT
#1949
Hm. Wanted to reread n00bKing anyway.^^
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 19:27 GMT
#1966
Okay. Whatevs... n00bKing remind me: who is your scum team again?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:03 GMT
#1973
Okay. There is a super crazy tinfoil hat wearing world in which n00bKing kinda makes sense... maybe that was what MoosyDoosy saw?
Aaaaand I see why n00bKing would not be fond of explaining it... -.-
Not fond of that play tbh. But whatevs, can be talked into giving n00bKing a day.

Sooo... as proposed earlier:
##vote NocturneMage

Next few days (Friday,Saturday,Sunday) will be a bit tight for me. Will try to be around as much as I can.
Will still look at n00bKing's filter later today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:26 GMT
#1975
On July 31 2015 05:11 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 05:03 disformation wrote:
Okay. There is a super crazy tinfoil hat wearing world in which n00bKing kinda makes sense... maybe that was what MoosyDoosy saw?
Aaaaand I see why n00bKing would not be fond of explaining it... -.-
Not fond of that play tbh. But whatevs, can be talked into giving n00bKing a day.

Sooo... as proposed earlier:
##vote NocturneMage

Next few days (Friday,Saturday,Sunday) will be a bit tight for me. Will try to be around as much as I can.
Will still look at n00bKing's filter later today.


What world is that?
Explain.


Well. I think he is going for an incredible flashy and greedy kind of play here. And optimally he doesn't want that scum knows/guesses what he is going to do. Which is why he dodges some of the questions. I am not 100% sure what he is trying to do here myself to be completely honest. And I don't think I am fond of this kind of strat.
But whatever. I think we could give him 1 day. Might want to change that opinion after rereading his filter though. =p
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:36 GMT
#1978
On July 31 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 05:26 disformation wrote:
On July 31 2015 05:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2015 05:03 disformation wrote:
Okay. There is a super crazy tinfoil hat wearing world in which n00bKing kinda makes sense... maybe that was what MoosyDoosy saw?
Aaaaand I see why n00bKing would not be fond of explaining it... -.-
Not fond of that play tbh. But whatevs, can be talked into giving n00bKing a day.

Sooo... as proposed earlier:
##vote NocturneMage

Next few days (Friday,Saturday,Sunday) will be a bit tight for me. Will try to be around as much as I can.
Will still look at n00bKing's filter later today.


What world is that?
Explain.


Well. I think he is going for an incredible flashy and greedy kind of play here. And optimally he doesn't want that scum knows/guesses what he is going to do. Which is why he dodges some of the questions. I am not 100% sure what he is trying to do here myself to be completely honest. And I don't think I am fond of this kind of strat.
But whatever. I think we could give him 1 day. Might want to change that opinion after rereading his filter though. =p


Greedy play how?
Do you think he's a PR?


who knows. *shrugs*
@n00bKing:
If you want to make some crazy plays while it is still D3, I'd suggest not waiting too long.
As mentioned in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=99#1973
I won't be around as much the next three days, so I might miss stuff that goes down last minute or something...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:39 GMT
#1979
On July 31 2015 05:36 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2015 05:26 disformation wrote:
On July 31 2015 05:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2015 05:03 disformation wrote:
Okay. There is a super crazy tinfoil hat wearing world in which n00bKing kinda makes sense... maybe that was what MoosyDoosy saw?
Aaaaand I see why n00bKing would not be fond of explaining it... -.-
Not fond of that play tbh. But whatevs, can be talked into giving n00bKing a day.

Sooo... as proposed earlier:
##vote NocturneMage

Next few days (Friday,Saturday,Sunday) will be a bit tight for me. Will try to be around as much as I can.
Will still look at n00bKing's filter later today.


What world is that?
Explain.


Well. I think he is going for an incredible flashy and greedy kind of play here. And optimally he doesn't want that scum knows/guesses what he is going to do. Which is why he dodges some of the questions. I am not 100% sure what he is trying to do here myself to be completely honest. And I don't think I am fond of this kind of strat.
But whatever. I think we could give him 1 day. Might want to change that opinion after rereading his filter though. =p


Greedy play how?
Do you think he's a PR?


who knows. *shrugs*
@n00bKing:
If you want to make some crazy plays while it is still D3, I'd suggest not waiting too long.
As mentioned in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=99#1973
I won't be around as much the next three days, so I might miss stuff that goes down last minute or something...


Okay. Sry for being so vague.
Let me rephrase: Do I believe him to be a PR? Depends what he does today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:56 GMT
#1994
Dunno. This stuff is starting to confuse me.

In all seriousness n00bKing I would really prefer for you to talk more plainly. Like it is apparent that you know something or have something planned, but with all this dancing around the stuff I can see why ruXxar would think you are scum.

ruXxar is full on tunneling now. Prolly confirm. bias, too.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 20:58 GMT
#1996
Also we can talk scott again, if there actually is a CC or he lives through the night.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 21:00 GMT
#1999
On July 31 2015 05:58 Damdred wrote:
Um no Scott is confirmed tow don't even think,that


Hmm... would I believe a CC at this point? Chances are kinda slim, granted.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 21:01 GMT
#2001
On July 31 2015 06:00 Damdred wrote:
Literally it doesn't matter that we have a real cop or Scott might be fake. He was rb no one else was scum won't hold rb with a cop going around.


Eh, I am stupid. Yeah, you are right. NVM.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 23:14 GMT
#2018
On July 31 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:
Literally there is no reason to say this not,interact with anyone and pile on.

If you are town follow,me,


Well it lines up with the PoE list he posted day 1...
In NSM10 I learned that not ever changing one reads even when kinda bad can be a sign for mafia. Also not wanting to change some reads may stem from the fear of appearing inconsistent. Which mafia is more afraid of than town.
So yeah not liking this stuff at all...
might even put Sulfurus down as my #1 scum again...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 30 2015 23:27 GMT
#2021
On July 31 2015 08:23 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 08:14 disformation wrote:
On July 31 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:
Literally there is no reason to say this not,interact with anyone and pile on.

If you are town follow,me,


Well it lines up with the PoE list he posted day 1...
In NSM10 I learned that not ever changing one reads even when kinda bad can be a sign for mafia. Also not wanting to change some reads may stem from the fear of appearing inconsistent. Which mafia is more afraid of than town.
So yeah not liking this stuff at all...
might even put Sulfurus down as my #1 scum again...

This is cool and all, but you and Damdred can't lynch Mage OR Sulfurus until you convince someone that I'm Town. Like I say, I'll be doing my part with the Town Case on me. But a little help wouldn't hurt.

I think my case for Sulfurus being Scum was good. I expect my case for Mage being Scum is gonna be good. But neither of them are as good as the case for me being Town. So hopefully everyone reads it, because there's a whole lot of closed-mindedness going on in the thread.


All right. Going to reread your filter and Rels case. Hopefully your filter loosk better than Moosy's. :p
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 31 2015 00:26 GMT
#2041
Hm. n00bKing's filter is pretty hard to really read with all that arguing about things that don't seem... significant.
And I don't think Rels case is strong. Like yeah there are a few strange things, but I'd rather lynch the dude that hasn't shown up for 2 days in pretty critical phases or the one that has a D1 PoE list and didn't bother explaining the reads even if asked multiple times?
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