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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 24 2015 02:14 GMT
#221
On July 24 2015 11:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
^^ It's a lazy attempt whether scum or newbie is all I can basically say.

Anyway, I'll read through filters. I'll do what I usually do and form a townie circle from reads before working from there.

Oh I was referring to Breshke's argument on ruXxar when I posted this.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 24 2015 02:15 GMT
#222
On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.

For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?

I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.


I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great.

That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense.

MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 24 2015 02:24 GMT
#223
On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.

For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?

I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.


I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great.

That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense.


Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.

Oh, and since you ask:
The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping.
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:

I am town.


Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.


There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one.
If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous..
In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum.
My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt.
It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own.
If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions.
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.


Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9):
On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?


Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post.

And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 24 2015 02:50 GMT
#224
On July 24 2015 11:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.

For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?

I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.


I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great.

That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense.


Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.

Oh, and since you ask:
The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping.
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:

I am town.


Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.


There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one.
If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous..
In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum.
My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt.
It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own.
If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions.
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.


Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9):
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?


Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post.

And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that?


Ive played with ruxxar twice he was scum both times.

How many times have you played with him? The problem is I don't think you can because he said he activly tries to change the way he plays and damdred is right you cant change your meta but meta isnt stuff like you just explained it takes like many many games of playing with someone to really understand their meta, lazy meta reads like you just gave on ruxxar are easy to give and they are just as easy for people to fool you with because what stops ruxxar from not making a case if he is scum just to fool you?

Also i never based my read on the fact that ruxxar didnt answer my question show me specifically where you think i did. That question was posed because i was forming my read on him and it was going to help if he answered it. Then damdred asked wtf was up with my questions so i showed what i had. NOWHERE in that post do i base it off of ruxxar not responding.

Yes ruxxar didnt give a read on noobking but he had ample time to at least TRY and work it out while he was in the thread instead of doing his poetry stuff.

And it is specifically noobking because as i said in the original post ruxxar specifically said he was doing the poetry stuff to get reactions and noobking reacted to the poetry stuff and ruxxar did NOTHING with this reaction.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 03:15 GMT
#225
On July 24 2015 11:12 Damdred wrote:
I think the general thought that I haven't taken a stance is incorrect.

I don't believe anyone said you haven't taken a stance. Speaking just for myself, what I wanted was to know what your stance on ruXxar was based upon. To say that "there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum" is a really powerful statement. And like I mentioned, scum will sometimes talk about how a person is playing differently than other games, but then not go into specifics. So I wanted to see specifics. You've now added a second way in which ruXxar's play is different from his scum games, so my line of questioning is having the desired result.

As I see it, you're saying that ruXxar's play in this game is different from his scum games in these two ways:

A) He is free/happy
B) He is not giving his rsoultin/oprah impersonation

My follow-up questions would be:

1) Anything else? Or do those two things cover it for now?
2) What is an rsoultin/oprah impersonation? That means nothing to me.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 24 2015 03:55 GMT
#226
On July 24 2015 11:50 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 11:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 24 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On July 24 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.

For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?

I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.


I never jumped at ruxxar for not answering my question? If you can quote somewhere i did then that would be great.

That wasnt my point at all though, my point was that while ruxxar was in the thread he never put effort into finding out what noobkings alignment was even though noobking was reacting to his "weird" posting style which is what ruxxar said he was trying to do.He then continued being around in the thread not really doing much at all which isnt that abd because it was the start of the game but if you look at it from the context that ruxxar says he was playing weird to get reactions and therefore reads it doesn't make sense.


Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.

Oh, and since you ask:
The last post that ruXxar makes is this about flip flopping.
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:

I am town.


Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.


There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one.
If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous..
In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum.
My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt.
It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own.
If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions.
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.


Then you ask this question on the same page but 5 posts later (9):
On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?


Then you make your argument off the fact that ruXxar never answered your question when he clearly left since he hasn’t posted since his last post.

And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does) why specifically on n00bKing? Care to expand on that?


Ive played with ruxxar twice he was scum both times.

How many times have you played with him? The problem is I don't think you can because he said he activly tries to change the way he plays and damdred is right you cant change your meta but meta isnt stuff like you just explained it takes like many many games of playing with someone to really understand their meta, lazy meta reads like you just gave on ruxxar are easy to give and they are just as easy for people to fool you with because what stops ruxxar from not making a case if he is scum just to fool you?

Also i never based my read on the fact that ruxxar didnt answer my question show me specifically where you think i did. That question was posed because i was forming my read on him and it was going to help if he answered it. Then damdred asked wtf was up with my questions so i showed what i had. NOWHERE in that post do i base it off of ruxxar not responding.

Yes ruxxar didnt give a read on noobking but he had ample time to at least TRY and work it out while he was in the thread instead of doing his poetry stuff.

And it is specifically noobking because as i said in the original post ruxxar specifically said he was doing the poetry stuff to get reactions and noobking reacted to the poetry stuff and ruxxar did NOTHING with this reaction.

Yes this makes more sense. Thank you for clearly explaining your thought process.

To address your points.

To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam. If I'm guessing correctly (although you might be right in that he's metagaming really hard), he got townie and was honestly very relieved at that fact and decided to "change things up" with a "trap". In this case it would be his poetry spam. However, (if I'm brutally honest here) ruXxar really isn't the best at reads. He's good at creating conversations but he's not that good at reads. So I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't really been reading into anything and has just been happily freewheeling with his spam.

As a note, I might be a bit biased in this because I did much the same in my last game which was Newbie Mafia XII which you can take a look at.

Either way, I think we can both agree that we'll have to see how ruXxar acts from here on out and judge from there. Which will be easy because I'll be suspecting him hard if he doesn't start posting a shit ton like he normally does. And I'm going to take an especially hard look at him for reasons I stated before.

Thanks for your responses and reactions. They at least gave me some better reads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 24 2015 04:32 GMT
#227
Oh Dear...

Oh dear me, oh my!

It seems I am rather unfashionably late to this party.

Apologies, apologies, apologies.

Please, if you would all be so kind, I need a bit of time to settle in and prepare. I shall get down to business shortly.
I can take that responsibility.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
July 24 2015 04:41 GMT
#228
Day 1 Votecount

ruxXar (1): n00bKing
Not voting (12): MoosyDoosy, Rels, Sulfurus, Barakos, ruXxar, disinformation, NocturneMage, Flexes, Ticktock, Damdred, Breshke, raynpelikoneet
ruXxar is currently set to be lynched!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 24 2015 05:14 GMT
#229
*Mutters a lot while setting up a small table and chair*

Humm, yes ok I suppose this will do.

*Sits down and pulls out a deck of cards. Looks them over briefly and then begins to shuffle*

So then, I believe I am ready.

To those of you already raising your eyebrows and beginning a motion that ends with your face beset firmly in your palm. This is less random than you'd think and my intentions will be clear shortly. For now, do your best to enjoy the ride.

I have noticed often in these situations that I have a tendency to fly off the handle a bit. Many times I have begun with decent enough thoughts and ideas only to drown in a sea of "maybe"s, and thus I have begun to doubt my own mind. My own Mind! A terrible thing for a man to do...

This day, though.... this day shall be different!

I have decided to rely not simply upon my own thoughts and ideas today. Today I will call upon the very universe to help unravel this mysteries we face here today. Today fate shall guide my hand and my mind will be the passenger attempting to plot our course.

*Clears throat*

Yea, basically I'm gunna be doing Tarot stuff.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 24 2015 05:28 GMT
#230
State of the game

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4 of Disks


The 4 of Disks is a card representing a state of stability and comfort. It suggests an atmosphere of potential, growth, and security. There is a danger though of becoming overly attached to this comfort.

The castle has been built, it is strong and fortified. The pantries are full, the storehouse is brimming full, and the square is lively. Life is good. However, there is danger of becoming too cut off from the rest of the world.

Conclusion: Everyone is feeling to be in a solid and safe place. All parties are feeling ready for the ensuing turmoil. There is danger of in-fighting of loosing focus on the actual matters at hand. Do not let this time of security fool you...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
July 24 2015 05:41 GMT
#231
Predicting the End

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8 of Wands


The 8 of Wands is the card of swiftness. This is a sign of swift resolution, of a sudden flash of realization. The wands themselves represent pure energy while the number 8 draws that power into order. There is a warning to not waste time in dispute or inaction.

The flash of inspiration/intuition/light quickly expands and reveals all. The correct path is show and all the dark corners are revealed. Darkness and confusion are ever at the edges of this light, but if focus is kept the goal will be achieved.

Conclusion: The end will come quickly. Be it an overall fast game or that a sudden revelation will clear the way. Be wary of those showing little focus, causing disruption, or trying to start arguments.
I can take that responsibility.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 06:16 GMT
#232
Oh God. Why is there only 1 Noose?
Sulfurus
Profile Joined May 2015
United States166 Posts
July 24 2015 06:23 GMT
#233
On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game


I could say the same about you.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 07:11 GMT
#234
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.

You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.

My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.


Fair enough.
Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs*
Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess.

So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.-


Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...

And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-

Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...

Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.

Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...

Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.

Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!


Mm, astute observations my friend.

Effort is evident, yet conclusions are fraudulent.

-nocturne read: wrong conclusion.
-noob king read: terrible reason.
-disformation: wrong conclusion

How many games have you played of mafia?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 07:15 GMT
#235
On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?


His meta waves are a-changing.
On the scale between town and PR he lies.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 07:19 GMT
#236
Damdred town.
Noobking town.
Ruxxar town.
Moosy town.
Dis-something guy town.

Barakos mafia.
##vote Barakos
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 08:53 GMT
#237
Alright here I go.

On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say.

This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.

RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.

So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much.

Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone.


He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia.

Do you think he's mafia?

On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die.


Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his?

On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside.

On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside.


Tell me of your experience with real life mafia.
My curiosity is peaked.


I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party.

What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it?

On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD


It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?

I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?




So, ##Vote NocturneMage

@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 08:54 GMT
#238
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:

I am town.


Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
[...]
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.

Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 08:58 GMT
#239
On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:

I am town.


Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
[...]
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.

Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=


'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 24 2015 09:00 GMT
#240
Like some other people in the thread, I also found Barakos super weird. Especially since like some guys also playing, I played my first game with him in Newbie X, and in that game he was very logical and straightforward in his posts.

On July 24 2015 07:11 Barakos wrote:
Hi guys!

Will be here, lurking aroung and posting in some hours... playing hero siege with a friend atm.

Fluff, very different from his first post in Newbie X where he was already analyzing disfo's filter.

And this post is so unlike him I feel:
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.

You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.

My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.


Fair enough.
Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs*
Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess.

So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.-


Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...

And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-

Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...

Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.

Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...

Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.

Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!

This post is not how I remember Barakos playing. It's just supposition without conclusions.

And this part is super ironic:

On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.


On July 24 2015 07:11 Barakos wrote:
Hi guys!

Will be here, lurking aroung and posting in some hours... playing hero siege with a friend atm.

LOL
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