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Moosy do you want to talk about my post you seemed to have some opinions about it.
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Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well.
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On July 24 2015 10:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On that note n00bKing you seem a lot more friendly in this game than in others. At least you're posting a lot more fluff here and responding to more stuff than going down to business like you normally would. Any particular reason why?
Because I am Scum too. Didn't you see me say hi to you in the QT?
Aside from that, having so much crossover in the player lists for the Newbie games is making it feel more like a "community" I guess. In the first game, I didn't know anyone so there wasn't anything to do but get down to business. I am also in a lighter mood because my move is finished (whereas it was in-progress during the first game, and I was busy unpacking all the time during the second game) and because my birthday is this weekend. w00t!
But I think people will find some "down to business" in at least a few of my posts so far. And that will continue. If it doesn't, I fully expect to be called out on it.
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On July 24 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Barakos how many games of Mafia have you played. Also if Breshke can answer this as well.
15, im still horrible.
On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
On July 24 2015 10:24 Breshke wrote:
Moosy do you want to talk about my post you seemed to have some opinions about it.
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On July 24 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times.
Yeah, I actually thought my initial vote would be against Sulfurus, and then when someone asked why I made the vote, I would be like "Because he's the Godfather?" But then ruXxar made his post about how nice it felt to be carefree and under no scrutiny, and I felt compelled to put a vote on him, just to interrupt his nirvana.
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game in Newbie 12 from his Town game in Newbie 10.
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Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently.
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum, while he claims he is trying to change meta every game all experienced players know no matter what habits are formed that you will always have difficulty breaking in the long term maybe the short term but not the long. He seems much to free and happy at this juncture to be scum for me.
Moosey I need you to elaborate a bit please
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On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently.
Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out!
On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum
Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that?
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On July 24 2015 10:23 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote:
i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless.
What is "the accusation against him?" ruXxar hasn't posted since Breshke said he thought he was Scum, so you can't say anything about ruXxar seeming defensive about that. You must mean something else?
i ment the accusation right at the beginning about the poetry stuff. i mean obviously it was not a well founded one but he still felt the need to explain himself for it in i think 2 posts.
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On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that?
I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says.
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On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says.
Why would he be "obtuse" about something he was saying ruXxar when he's asking about what I said about you? They're two separate things. Hm?
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about something he was saying about ruXxar*
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On July 24 2015 10:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. Why would he be "obtuse" about something he was saying ruXxar when he's asking about what I said about you? They're two separate things. Hm?
because the stuff you are saying about me has to do with my read on ruxxxar? Which you are still dodging. What was damdred onto?? What do you think about my post on ruxxar?
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On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says.
I think that maybe "obtuse" is not the word you meant to use here. Otherwise, this post is really strange...
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His read on ruXxar has nothing to do with my thoughts on you. Unless you're being cautious about what exactly you wrote about ruXxar? Thanks man.
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On July 24 2015 10:51 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. I think that maybe "obtuse" is not the word you meant to use here. Otherwise, this post is really strange...
Holy shit i meant vague not obtuse haha
On July 24 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
His read on ruXxar has nothing to do with my thoughts on you. Unless you're being cautious about what exactly you wrote about ruXxar? Thanks man.
Yes it does. You siaid you thought damdred was onto something when you quoted my post about ruxxar. So therefore you were trying to say you share sentiment with damdred about my read on ruxxar. Yet you can't even explain what your sentiment is as you are still dodging the question.
Ill ask again, what do you think about my read on ruxxar?
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On July 24 2015 10:55 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:51 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:46 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 10:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Yes I actually disagree quite strongly with the ruxxor scum read currenty, the posts just feel to free to me even if people are annoyed with the style. From what I read you currently scum read him for not trying to discern the alignment of people currently. Apparently Damdred learned a new word today, and is very excited to try it out! On July 24 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote:
While I think its true he hasn't posted many reads at this juncture I think there are some fairly obvious things that are different this game than his other games as scum Can you tell us what those "fairly obvious things" are? One way that I've seen scum players create filler is to talk about how a player's behavior is different from this game or that game, without being specific about how. You mention him seeming happy, is there more to it than that? I'm going to cut in here and say im fairly sure damdred was being obtuse because he wants to see what moosey says. I think that maybe "obtuse" is not the word you meant to use here. Otherwise, this post is really strange... Holy shit i meant vague not obtuse haha
Okay. Vague (or even "obscure") would definitely make more sense than "obtuse." Anyway, I can apologize to Damdred if I stepped on his toes there, but it's definitely true that I've seen Scum players make posts that sounded just like his. Just to make it look like they were making posts, and taking positions.
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Breshke, your whole argument and post is based off the fact that ruXxar left the thread before you asked your question. Then you seemed to take the chance to jump at the opportunity to say that ruXxar never answered your question when he was never there.
For anyone doubting me, look back. ruXxar stops posting and then Breshke comes in asking a question. From there he makes an argument based off of one question that couldn't be answered because ruXxar wasn't there. Then he draws the conclusion that ruXxar is scum?
I don't know. As n00bKing said, this might be scum trying to take a stance and force an easy lynch off misinformation. I'm never inclined to make a hasty judgment so I won't decide just yet although I'll keep this in mind.
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Is that answer enough Breshke? :3
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I'm not sure how I am not taking stances, most early reads be they gut/tone are extremely vague and frustrating for people at times.
I think the general thought that I haven't taken a stance is incorrect. At least three stances have been taken.
1) Ruxxor is toen
2) Disinformation is town
3) barakas is a scum lean because of his post that says almost nothing definite.
4) vague feelings about breshke that I'll wait to expand on.
Besides that ruxxor is a tone read in his postings I can just believe. He usually gives his rsoultin/oprah impersonation when he's scum he hasn't caught on to that yet though.
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^^ It's a lazy attempt whether scum or newbie is all I can basically say.
Anyway, I'll read through filters. I'll do what I usually do and form a townie circle from reads before working from there.
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