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On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?
A read from a sentence?
What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon?
The timing, his motivation, his meta?
A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for.
I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors.
The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life.
I read you clear as a book.
Your alignment is town.
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On July 24 2015 07:59 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:47 ruXxar wrote:
It's not that I'm improving as a player, but that I gain familiarity with the players.
In a mafia game of strangers you are but a lonely island.
In company of friends, you feel at home. Eh, I'd say it is a bit of both.  I like to learn from mistakes. But on the other hand it really feels nice that after only playing 2 games, shadowing in 3 games and reading a few old games I "know" 8/13 players in this game. Also if you are able to keep this style up all game I will be super impressed. =D
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side.
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town.
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On July 24 2015 08:03 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:59 disformation wrote:
Also if you are able to keep this style up all game I will be super impressed. =D Don't encourage him. lol
You have not been blessed with the relief of rolling VT after over a month of playing as scum.
Once you do, you will know that you do not choose your style, the style chooses you.
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I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
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On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.
There is only a threat if you perceive there to be one.
If your soul is pure you have nothing to fear.
My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
In a moment of weakness and misjudgement I bound myself to the thought that Losing HF was disastrous..
In the process I lost my genuineness that innocent and honest town spirit, on the warpath to lynch scum.
My motivations were laid bare and my association with HF made obvious as remarked by fidei in the obs qt.
It's a miracle that we won, and by no effort of my own.
If there is one lesson you need to learn if you want to be town read it's to stick to your convictions.
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.
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On July 24 2015 08:53 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:
So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. False. Barakos and rayn each made a throwaway post after the Day started. If we decide to "lynch all liars" we can start with you! \o/
Ah noob, always so edgy, so stiff.
I'm trying to touch you but my hands are bleeding as your body is covered in tiny spikes.
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On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!
Mm, astute observations my friend.
Effort is evident, yet conclusions are fraudulent.
-nocturne read: wrong conclusion.
-noob king read: terrible reason.
-disformation: wrong conclusion
How many games have you played of mafia?
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On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?
His meta waves are a-changing.
On the scale between town and PR he lies.
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On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. [...] The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=
'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike.
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On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread.
Ah, the pre-planned accusation.
Classic mafia style. #self-meta.
Your prepared argument is non-sense.
How are they prepared when #2 and #3 are based on events that happened after the game started?
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On July 24 2015 18:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread. Ah, the pre-planned accusation. Classic mafia style. #self-meta. Your prepared argument is non-sense. How are they prepared when #2 and #3 are based on events that happened after the game started? No you don't get it. I'm not saying NocturneMage prepared his post before the game started. I'm saying he thought long and hard before he posted it, instead of being free of mind and posting what he felt. The evidence that he thought long and hard before posting it is the fact that there are 3 different subjects in the post. Then, I'm saying that the fact that he is not free of mind posting his first post may indicate he's mafia.
I disagree. Weak argument.
His later posts shows he's not afraid to ask questions and share of himself.
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On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:@ruxxar Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. [...] The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (= 'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike. Sure. (= Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ?
It is for all who know the inside joke.
In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me.
Give me action, I want to see your teeth.
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On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:59 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:@ruxxar On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. [...] The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (= 'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike. Sure. (= Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ? It is for all who know the inside joke. In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me. Give me action, I want to see your teeth. OK ruxxar. So this line: has two purposes: - joke for those who knows it - reaction test for mafia Am I correct ? And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ?
Indeed, it's from another voice mafia game.
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On July 24 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 21:45 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 18:59 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:@ruxxar On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:[quote] Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy. [quote] Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story. [...] The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor. Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (= 'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike. Sure. (= Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ? It is for all who know the inside joke. In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me. Give me action, I want to see your teeth. OK ruxxar. So this line: On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
Did I mention I am yakuza guys. has two purposes: - joke for those who knows it - reaction test for mafia Am I correct ? And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ? On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
In b4 finnski claims cop.
Indeed, it's from another voice mafia game. OK that makes little sense to me that you have two separates explanations for a sentence containing 7 words.
Words are immaterial, they are but a poor representation of the meanings we try to convey or conceal.
For those not in the know, it's an excellent reason to attack me. I welcome you to it.
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On July 24 2015 22:11 Damdred wrote:
Why he liked my post about things, I think he did roughly
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Moosy..
What is this soul-read you have on me?
WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words.
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On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 22:35 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy..
What is this soul-read you have on me?
WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words. I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.
Hate is such a strong word.
Do not let emotions control you, it leads to the bridge of bad decisions.
My methods have created very solid results, no scum slips necessary.
Simple observation of people's natural tendencies and reactions is all that is required.
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On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia.
n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.
Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit.
What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me.
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