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On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote: Useful list of useless people Sulfurus Ticktock If one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes | ||
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On July 25 2015 02:50 ruXxar wrote: @Disformation: You had interaction with me in what game? Hm. Might have made my post a bit unclear. Might reformat. I was "sorta involved" in two games with you. (shadowed a player in two games) The one I was in a game with and probably didn't have much interaction with is barakos. | ||
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Someone posted some poetry in the beginning and asked for interpretations. I think barakos had a scum lean on me the entire game for my interpretation of that poem. xD Also FYI - who I currently not like: MoosyDoosy - mostly for his constant ad hom and super angry tone. barakos - not sure if I want to buy his reaction test and his resulting super constructed scum read on me. still in the realms of wrong town though. | ||
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On July 25 2015 02:46 disformation wrote: Okay, pointing out this inconsistency is fair enough.  But I am quite confused as to why he gave me such a hard scumread for that... maybe to make sure I respond to this? Maybe he wanted to divert attention away from him, I think a few people called him scum just a page or two earlier? Anyway not a huge fan. Okay, why did I point out stuff with ruxXar and Damdred? Because I was sorta involved with them in two games each. I only "know" barakos from one game (NSM X). What do I remember barakos for from that game?
And that's it... I think barakos and me had not much interaction/conversation in that game. So I have trouble remembering him. Don't remember much of Rels either, since he was shot super early. Remember having a hard town read on Rels, that is it. I remember a lot of the people I had interactions with or that were alive very long (boxerfred/sicklucker/27ninjabunnies/ticktock) and I remember Sulfurus, because I had a super wrong scum read on him. I remember Breshke because I was about to post a mad case on him and claimed cop. Then I looked at my case and realized all the things that bugged me made a lot of sense if he was cop. Since I remember so little of barakos maybe I should follow Rels question: And read Barakos filter from NSM X again. xD Okay, reformating time, hope this is a bit clearer now: Okay, pointing out this inconsistency is fair enough. But I am quite confused as to why he gave me such a hard scumread for that... maybe to make sure I respond to this? Maybe he wanted to divert attention away from him, I think a few people called him scum just a page or two earlier? Anyway not a huge fan. Okay, why did I point out stuff with ruxXar and Damdred? Because I was sorta involved with them in two games each. I only "know" barakos from one game (NSM X). Why did I not mention a lot of the other players I "know"? Because I have less information on them imo. For example I was in only one game with barakos. What do I remember barakos for from that game?
And that's it... I think barakos and me had not much interaction/conversation in NSM X. So I have trouble remembering him. Don't remember much of Rels either, since he was shot super early. Remember having a hard town read on Rels, that is it. I remember a lot of the people I had interactions with or that were alive very long (boxerfred/sicklucker/27ninjabunnies/ticktock) and I remember Sulfurus, because I had a super wrong scum read on him. I remember Breshke because I was about to post a mad case on him but he claimed cop. Then I looked at my case and realized all the things that bugged me made a lot of sense if he was cop. Since I remember so little of barakos maybe I should follow Rels question: On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote: Leaving to eat very soon. To the guy or girl reading this: If you are ruxxar, rayn, moosy or a host I asked you a question and would very much like an answer. If you played or read Newbie X, I would like to have your thoughts on Barakos' filter compared to Newbie X. And whoever you are, I would like to have your thoughts about my post on NocturneMage. And read Barakos filter from NSM X again. xD | ||
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Great I am super bad at reading inbetween lines. Also: On July 25 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is noone voting for Barakos when he is lying? also being scummy. Where is barakos lying? I feel like I missed something. Quite confused atm. =/ | ||
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On July 25 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: His post was scummy because he is scum. You sound pretty confident/convinced. Let me look at his filter for a moment. | ||
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On July 25 2015 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: you don't even need to. you jsut need to look at the fact he SHOULD expect a reaction from me to his "reaction test". Yet he talks nothing about me after i VOTE for him. Like this is pretty straightforward. Hmm. + Show Spoiler + On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote: Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! Says he dislikes ruxXar's style this game, but won't judge based on this style. But dislikes me for liking ruxXar's style? Super town read on n00bKing for something easy to point out. Buddying? Rels calls him out on some scummy things. rayn puts his vote on him. barakos is like "Haha reaction test". Calls Rels town and picks me as scum. Hm... actually I think he is misrepresenting me. I never said I would be looking for meta hints in general. I said I would be using some games I was shadowing ppl in to look for meta hints on just ruxXar and Damdred. Never mentioned any other games or meta hints in general. He also calls out my waffling in NSM X. Maybe he sees me as an easy misslynch? Or as an easy distraction? His conclusion is that I am scum. Seems even like a pretty strong read. But he doesn't vote for me? Waiting to see if he can get this wagon going? Then he picks out some stuff from NocturneMage ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=13#259 ), who as a first timer could be an easy target as well, but doesn't even reach a conclusion. He likes the suspicion? On July 24 2015 19:03 Barakos wrote: [...]To me this looks like scum trying to find angles for a misslynch. So while I don't like your case that much, I like the suspicion about NocturneMage. Like is NocturneMage scum or not? Yeah... overall I get the impression of scum testing the waters and/or trying to get rid of unwanted attention. ##vote Barakos | ||
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On July 25 2015 03:24 Tictock wrote: Dis you need to roll something other than town, just for varieties sake. Still nice to see you out of the shadows ^.^ Since you asked... and yes Hanged Man would be ironic... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7ZBTZma.jpg) This card can be read either as a symbol of a new beginning or as a strong read into a persons character (strong because it is a powerful card). Some interesting lines I came across that describe the personality portrayed by the Princess of Disks a quiet, reserved person - sometimes shy can easily be a little too dependent from outside influences but nevertheless being unable to really adapt to others. practical and capable, though rarely seeking the limelight deals badly with conflict Thanks. The lines are kinda fitting. Especially the 1st,3rd and 4th. Not too sure about the 2nd. On July 25 2015 04:16 n00bKing wrote: [...] His filter from Newbie X was not short, but I also found his play in Newbie X to be completely unmemorable. He was one of only 2 players in that game that were basically null for me the entire way.[...] Well. Makes sense. I couldn't remember much from him either... | ||
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On July 25 2015 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay who? i think scum are barakos, tictack, nocturne. I second the question to Damdred. Rayn why exactly do you think ticktoc is scum? I think I can guess, but I'd rather have you type it out in like 1-2 sentences or something. | ||
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On July 25 2015 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: no sorry, he is calling someone mafia for the things someone he is sorta defending did. Thanks for answering. Have to reread that conversation TBH. xD On July 25 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know i have a tendency to simplify things. I should have said he called me out (which i did in the first place but noone understood my point). Anyways the point stands. And i am pretty damn sure about this. + Barakos read of me is super strange/wonky. + Barakos stance on NocturneMage is super indecisive. + Barakos gives a lot of town credit to n00bKing for something that is done very easily. Adds up. | ||
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On July 25 2015 06:23 n00bKing wrote: 1) What read do you mean? 2) I completely agree. 3) Come on, man. You mentioned earlier that Barakos might have been "buddying" with that comment. But he's not, it's obviously just a joke. He's not actually trying to give me town credit for knowing how to count. How could you think that? I've seen players try to buddy up to me before (or "pocket" me, as it seems to be called around here), and I'm definitely wary of it. But this is not an instance of that. For him to name me top town for knowing how to count is the same as if he named rayn top town for having the most letters in his screen name. Pay attention. 1) This one: On July 24 2015 18:49 Barakos wrote: [...]What I want to point out is disformations behavior. He has several posts (see spoilers below), saying he has shadowed player X in that game and player Y in this game and will reread all those games to get a read on ruxxar because his tone is so completely different from the other games. But when I come into the thread with fluff (something I never did in NSM X, where he played with me for the entire game), he doesn't pick it up at all and sees no difference in my behavior, even though he claims to be looking for meta-hints and stuff like that. The only thing he did was putting me to null and saying he wants to see more of me. This inconsistency makes me put him in the scum-corner for now.[...] Tried to explain here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=23#451 Aka I think he is mispresenting me here to try and get attention away from him after Rels and Rayn call him out. 2) Good. 3) Eh. Yeah, this point is not that strong as the two previous things. Might just have been a joke. Could still be an attempt to garner some good will from you. Maybe not that important for now. | ||
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On July 25 2015 06:48 Damdred wrote: You obviously aren't reading what I'm saying. Its obvious who I want to lynch today so stop being dumb. And that's not,my meta lol I remember you being pretty agreeable and chill in Holy Guardians. | ||
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On July 25 2015 06:52 disformation wrote: I remember you being pretty agreeable and chill in Holy Guardians. Oh well. Found this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486008-holy-guardians-chapter-1?page=39#779 I still think your overall tone was pretty agreeable in Holy Guardians. xD | ||
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On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote: I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. I am staring at this post for quite some time now. No idea where to begin with this... 1) I don't think this is how auto works... auto is when you have overwhelming evidence on one or more scum members. I don't see overwhelming evidence anywhere. Auto also suggests you are done putting any effort into this game... 2) I am quite positive that mafia will at least try to shoot someone every night. So I have no idea how you can work under the assumption of having 6 lynches. 3) At least 7 town reads? Do you have 7 town reads, or do you have 8 town reads, or do you have 9 town reads? 4) Super setup for stuff like "oh I would rather lynch #1 of my scum list, but I can settle for #5, too". Which is pretty scummy... 5) General lack of explanation for anything. 6) Total wrong mindset for town? This reads to me as "instead of finding and lynching the most scummiest person around, I'll just do a huge PoE list (which has half of the players on it) and be content to lynch to that. I don't even... oO | ||
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"Look I am doing stuff, please no lyncherinos!"? | ||
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On July 25 2015 09:54 Sulfurus wrote: On Daily Mafia 'auto' is when you have so many town that you can no longer lose the game which is what I have. And the 6 lynches thing is not an assumption it's basic math; if we wake up with 3 players alive we can lynch only one person (floor(3/2) = 1), if we wake with 5 alive we can lynch exactly 2 people (floor(5/2) = 2) and so on until you get to 13 (floor(13/2) = 6). If your still confused write down on a piece of paper how many players will be alive each day if we lynch once a day and mafia kills once a night until final 3 and then count how many lynches we get. This is just how I like to think about the game, IMO the goal is not to lynch the scummiest person on a particular day but to use every resource available to us (including lynches) to kill the entire mafia team. And feel free to ask any questions you have about the list (somthing which ruXxar has already taken the initiative on). Okay. You are so sure in your town reads after half of D1 you think you can no longer lose this game? If we lynch 4 townies in a row we lose (assuming 1 nk each night). Which is why I want to lynch the scummiest (read as in: the person with the highest chance to flip scum) person. Quite possible that we just approach this differently. And my biggest problem is that you didn't explain any of your reads... so I am a bit of a mind to ask you to explain ALL of them... let me think of a few more interesting ones first... Your Flexes read was the strangest one for me, but you explained that for a bit already. Although I am note sure if I would give Flexes that much town cred for that... but oh well moving on. I'd like to hear your reasons for your townread on Damdred and your reasons for your #1 scum read on barakos, who you are currently voting for. And the reasons for your #2 scum read of MoosyDoosy would also be nice. Yeah, I think that would me help understanding your world. | ||
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Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. Liked TT being suspicious of Sulfurus. Though I am not sure what I my conclusion on Sulfurus is. Def. want him to come back and post more. such Rayn. very town. much wow. Town lean on Damdred. Will reread him and post proper reasons when I am at home. Need to look st Rels filter. While I didn't mind NocturneMages questions in the beginning I think it is time for him to come back here and at least try to put out some reads. also: a lot of ppl haven't voted yet, right? should get to that.  | ||
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On July 25 2015 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I kinda think Sulfurus is town. Hm. Breshke said so, too. Okay. Let me explain my thoughts on him a bit more. I think his poe would be ballsy for mafia. But him giving not many explanations, the timing for the list and the possibility of using the poe as an excuse to do no additional work unless poked make me suspicious of him. Maybe I am a bit hardh because he has such a diffetent spproach to this than me. That said I don't think I want to lynch him today .Give him a day or two and see where he goes/what he does eith his poe. | ||
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That looks pretty bad. Another person who needs to get back in the Thread and start shitting town rainbows ASAP. Wouldn't mind voting him at this point, but I think bsrakos still has a higher chance of flipping scum. | ||
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Seems like Barakos, NocturneMage and Flexes haven't graced us with their presence and there are less than 4h left until EoD. On July 26 2015 03:22 Sulfurus wrote: Did you notice our reads are similar, or does that not change anything?. Hmm. Be both agree on Rayn, Damdred and Barakos. Since NocturneMage hasn't posted in a while I agree on calling him scummy, too. Not a fan of MoosyDoosy but not sure if I would call him a #2 scum read. Strong disagree on Flexes, as pointed out. Need to look at TT, Rels, Breshke and n00bKing again. I think I had a town lean on TT, but I can't really recall why. So yeah, we agree on quite some points. But these are points most of the game agrees on I guess. xD I think I can work with you, but: On July 25 2015 10:32 disformation wrote: I'd like to hear your reasons for your townread on Damdred and your reasons for your #1 scum read on barakos, who you are currently voting for. And the reasons for your #2 scum read of MoosyDoosy would also be nice. Yeah, I think that would me help understanding your world. Still want your town read on Damdred and your #2 scum read on MoosyDoosy explained. :p | ||
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