EPTOn July 13 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote:
welp thats a lot of confirmed town
welp thats a lot of confirmed town
Welp, it's the 3 players I already figured were Town (Fidei, HtS, me) and now we added you! Not bad, not bad.
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
Welp, it's the 3 players I already figured were Town (Fidei, HtS, me) and now we added you! Not bad, not bad. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:11 TJHuggins wrote: Wow. Mod-error in town's favor. I'll take it. We pointed that out in page 15. Nothing was changed after the fact. I'd have responded to you but some mods modkill if you post after deadline and as a moderator myself I didn't want to chance that. | ||
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TJHuggins
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote: Sulfurus the Mafia Godfather has been lynched. TJHuggins wrote: I was refreshing the voting thread and never saw the change? Why was it even included in the first place if it wasn't allowed? That's silly. U mad, bro?  | ||
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TJHuggins
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On July 13 2015 07:13 Half the Sky wrote: We pointed that out in page 15. Nothing was changed after the fact. I'd have responded to you but some mods modkill if you post after deadline and as a moderator myself I didn't want to chance that. You pointed that out but none the less his vote was included in the voting thread for quite some time both before and after. I thought that perhaps it was frowned upon but no strictly forbidden. The fact that it was not corrected until after the time in the day ended is unacceptable imo. I feel very strongly about the integrity of games that I am in and it just annoys me when something like this happens. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:14 TJHuggins wrote: I so strongly felt that MD is the most obvious mafia there could possible be... I was going to be so mad if Sulfuras flipped town. Now I'm not so sure since sulfuras was voting on MD. I need to reread Sulfuras posts to see why he was voting on MD. I can give you a hint + Show Spoiler + sulf was mafia! also please don't criticise mods the way you did, they run games for us and it isn't easy. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Half the Sky
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:15 TJHuggins wrote: You pointed that out but none the less his vote was included in the voting thread for quite some time both before and after. I thought that perhaps it was frowned upon but no strictly forbidden. That's odd that you would think that, considering that this happened, all the way back on Page 13: On July 13 2015 02:00 n00bKing wrote: Players may not vote for themselves. So the vote count posted on Page 12 is not completely accurate. | ||
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TJHuggins
39 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:16 KelsierSC wrote: I can give you a hint + Show Spoiler + sulf was mafia! also please don't criticise mods the way you did, they run games for us and it isn't easy. The mistake was made: that's fine. Everyone makes mistakes. To retroactively correct the mistake after the day ends instead of leaving it as is? Unacceptable from a game integrity standpoint. But we got a mafia; it's whatever. I get passionate about lynches. | ||
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TJHuggins
39 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote: That's odd that you would think that, considering that this happened, all the way back on Page 13: My point is the vote remained on the voting thread and was included in the vote counts until a minute or two after the day concluded. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:21 TJHuggins wrote: The mistake was made: that's fine. Everyone makes mistakes. To retroactively correct the mistake after the day ends instead of leaving it as is? Unacceptable from a game integrity standpoint. But we got a mafia; it's whatever. I get passionate about lynches. yeh but doesn't mean you have to be an asshole | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
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TJHuggins
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 13 2015 07:32 TJHuggins wrote: Also doesn't giving people only a warning for not voting a bit of a bad precedent to set? Isn't this essentially akin to allowing each player to make one non-vote each game? The rules are as clear about the warning for the first failure to vote, as they are about the fact that players cannot vote for themselves. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 13 2015 02:27 n00bKing wrote: Here is Sulfurus' 2nd post in Newbie X (when he was Town): In this game, Sulfurus' 2nd post was just him quoting his own 1st post, in which he fakeclaimed a red check, and made a fake vote that he didn't actually put in the voting thread. In Newbie XI, Sulfurus was lurky, and useless, and SCUM. In this game, Sulfurus is lurky, and useless, and...draw your own conclusions. If Moosy starts actually doing something worthwhile, then I'm all about the idea of just lynching Sulfurus on Day 1 of every game until he stops flipping Red, or starts participating in games. Guess I'll have to keep waiting! On July 11 2015 09:18 Sulfurus wrote: I'm cop with a guilty check on noobking ##noobking get rekt Don't eff with the n00b, Sulfurus.  In addition to the 4 players who voted out the Godfather, I am also randomly townreading GhandiEAGLE for some reason or other. So that's 5 people I feel pretty good about. | ||
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silentwarrior
131 Posts
Then Grokken is because of this post: On July 12 2015 06:22 Grokken wrote: I figure it's time for me to make an actual post now that the thread is getting more active. Sulfurus: Has made a few posts, but only one-liners and contentless posts. I know you are here and reading the thread, why not try to post something more useful? Neutral read so far, maybe slight scumlean. He pings sulfurus as a scum lean fairly early, before any of the recent suspicion started. That means that most likely that they aren't mafia partners, as mafia will not give scumlean to their own partners when there is no other big suspicion on him. This leads me to believe that he is town as well. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
Half the Sky wrote: If there's a DT, check any of the lurkers/nulls - NHM/Scott/SW/WP Would be interested in hearing opinions from others, on whether this would be the best use of a Cop's ability. A null is always statistically more likely to be Town than not. So if a Cop just goes stumbling into that group, he can expect to get a Town check back. The good thing about getting a town check on someone in that group is that you won't mislynch them, when otherwise, it is always tempting to lynch a lurker. But the bad thing about getting a town check on someone in that group is that...even once you know you can trust them, how much help are you really going to get from them? If Nydus were to come back, and we knew he could be trusted, then maybe that would be awesome, having a vet that is known to be Town, for sure. But right now, I don't see how we can bank on Scott/SilentWarrior/WonnaPlay giving us a lot of assistance in reasoning things out, even if they were known to be Town. Grokken and TJ have both been much more active. I'm more curious about whether those guys are actually allies of mine, than I am about whether Scott is. And each is suspicious, in his own way. They both had their vote on Moosy while the Godfather was getting lynched. So that's not great. And then: Grokken - Kelsier hated his list post. I didn't, really. But Kelsier could still be right, even though I didn't see anything. What was more suspicious to me was that when I started to turn thread sentiment against Moosy, Grokken quickly flipped his read on Moosy from Green to Red. TJ - Being pissed about the Sulfurus lynch isn't necessarily alignment-indicative. Because if he were scum & smart, he would raise hell about it in the scum thread, and not here in the main thread, where it paints him in a negative light. But he could have been WIFOM'ing, or he could have been reacting in an emotional moment, without first thinking about how it would be perceived (as this is his first Mafia-by-Forum game, it sounded like). Moreover, there was something specific about TJ's behavior (that I won't bring to light just yet) that I found suspicious throughout all of Day 1. A town-check on this guy would keep me from spending the rest of the game tunneled on him. lol | ||
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