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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 07 2015 11:58 GMT
#1961
But I've done enough useful for now so I'm going to not do anything for a bit.þ
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 07 2015 12:00 GMT
#1962
On July 07 2015 20:58 Palmar wrote:
idk I remember thinking milo was town.

doesn't really answer my question though does it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 07 2015 12:01 GMT
#1963
why does town-milo jump on kelsier for being trolly when given his experience as mafia jumping on a townie for being trolly...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 12:02 GMT
#1964
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 12:02 GMT
#1965
On July 07 2015 20:56 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:43 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is hf bussing trfel boxer?

Where am I saying that? Assuming you mean this here:

...Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go. ...


I'm not saying I'm bussing, all it is is a comparison. Is that enough or should I elaborate?

well they are both in your scumlist and you didnt say that if one was mafia the other was town.
Is that the case?

Can they both be mafia together?



Hm, good question. I think there's nothing like "If a on my list is scum, b on my listis town" yet. I can see the technical possibility in a HF + Trfel team but I don't have any indicators towards that.

On July 07 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
[...]

clarity_nl (voted on)
WaveOfShadow
Trfel
Holyflare

My read on HF is admittedly the weakest because it's a lot of #tinfoilhat stuff.
Trfel is on the brink on martyring and made a claim that isn't too great, however I'd prefer to not lynch into un-cc'ed blue.
WaveOfShadow has not put in any effort, spits out oneliners and is not contributing at all.




so your list only has 3 real mafia and one town then?
also, are clarity and wave mafia together?

Read my posts before you ask such questions. However, I'll just answer one more time:

- no, my list has 4 real mafia. HF is only the weakest read, that is all.
- I have no idea if clarity and wave are mafia together. There's at least nothing that would make me thing "if wave is scum, clarity is town" or vice versa.

You can easily get such information from my post.



well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

Do you think clarity and wave are mafia together?
Yes or no?
No gg, No skill.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:06:33
July 07 2015 12:03 GMT
#1966
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


Alright, milo, not sure if you are still here, but so it goes...

Re - KSC do you have any thoughts now? He's posted a tonne since you commented on him initially. KSC sometimes has those random one-liners and those aren't/can't be the only things you read from him. Looking at the timestamps it appears those were selectively placed, so does his gameplay since that (or even around those quotes) change your opinion at all?

A few of us have opposing opinions on HF and a couple voiced some dissenting opinions on Damdred - for example Vivax felt that his posts were loaded or baitworthy, like he was trying to reach for an excuse to scumread LS. Do you agree with this assessment (same question also at KSC when he returns btw), I had previously quoted it.

HF, I felt there is some selective reasoning. You probably want to look at the exchanges about 8-9 hours ago to get a sense of what was happening. (Admittedly he's probably not getting lynched today, but it's something that I think everyone needs to think about going on to later days.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 12:03 GMT
#1967
Goddamn quotes.....hold on....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 12:03 GMT
#1968
On July 07 2015 21:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:56 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:43 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is hf bussing trfel boxer?

Where am I saying that? Assuming you mean this here:

...Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go. ...


I'm not saying I'm bussing, all it is is a comparison. Is that enough or should I elaborate?

well they are both in your scumlist and you didnt say that if one was mafia the other was town.
Is that the case?

Can they both be mafia together?



Hm, good question. I think there's nothing like "If a on my list is scum, b on my listis town" yet. I can see the technical possibility in a HF + Trfel team but I don't have any indicators towards that.

On July 07 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
[...]

clarity_nl (voted on)
WaveOfShadow
Trfel
Holyflare

My read on HF is admittedly the weakest because it's a lot of #tinfoilhat stuff.
Trfel is on the brink on martyring and made a claim that isn't too great, however I'd prefer to not lynch into un-cc'ed blue.
WaveOfShadow has not put in any effort, spits out oneliners and is not contributing at all.




so your list only has 3 real mafia and one town then?
also, are clarity and wave mafia together?

Read my posts before you ask such questions. However, I'll just answer one more time:

- no, my list has 4 real mafia. HF is only the weakest read, that is all.
- I have no idea if clarity and wave are mafia together. There's at least nothing that would make me thing "if wave is scum, clarity is town" or vice versa.

You can easily get such information from my post.



well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

Do you think clarity and wave are mafia together?
Yes or no?

dude

"I think there's nothing like "If a on my list is scum, b on my listis town" yet. I can see the technical possibility in a HF + Trfel team but I don't have any indicators towards that."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 12:03 GMT
#1969
On July 07 2015 21:02 boxerfred wrote:
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.

Lol nice oppurtunstic scumread .

The xP theory is real. just wait and see that she flips mafia.

regardless, how am I not reading too well? Can you quote things from your original posts that answer my questions?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 12:04 GMT
#1970
On July 07 2015 21:03 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:56 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:43 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is hf bussing trfel boxer?

Where am I saying that? Assuming you mean this here:

...Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go. ...


I'm not saying I'm bussing, all it is is a comparison. Is that enough or should I elaborate?

well they are both in your scumlist and you didnt say that if one was mafia the other was town.
Is that the case?

Can they both be mafia together?



Hm, good question. I think there's nothing like "If a on my list is scum, b on my listis town" yet. I can see the technical possibility in a HF + Trfel team but I don't have any indicators towards that.

On July 07 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
[...]

clarity_nl (voted on)
WaveOfShadow
Trfel
Holyflare

My read on HF is admittedly the weakest because it's a lot of #tinfoilhat stuff.
Trfel is on the brink on martyring and made a claim that isn't too great, however I'd prefer to not lynch into un-cc'ed blue.
WaveOfShadow has not put in any effort, spits out oneliners and is not contributing at all.




so your list only has 3 real mafia and one town then?
also, are clarity and wave mafia together?

Read my posts before you ask such questions. However, I'll just answer one more time:

- no, my list has 4 real mafia. HF is only the weakest read, that is all.
- I have no idea if clarity and wave are mafia together. There's at least nothing that would make me thing "if wave is scum, clarity is town" or vice versa.

You can easily get such information from my post.



well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

Do you think clarity and wave are mafia together?
Yes or no?

dude

"I think there's nothing like "If a on my list is scum, b on my listis town" yet. I can see the technical possibility in a HF + Trfel team but I don't have any indicators towards that."

So are clarity and wave mafia together?
yes/no?

Also by technical possibility you mean its possible the host gave a mafia role to both hf and trfel right?

No gg, No skill.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 12:05 GMT
#1971
well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

what a correct and useless statement.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 12:05 GMT
#1972
On July 07 2015 21:05 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

what a correct and useless statement.

If you are mad i post fluff, then I guess you are mad at pretty much the whole game.
No gg, No skill.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#1973
Bloody hell I meant to re-quote not edit that quote block. I am on such a roll today... >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#1974
On July 07 2015 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:02 boxerfred wrote:
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.

Lol nice oppurtunstic scumread .


Why do you think boxerfred is mafia Oats?
Computer says mafia
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 12:08 GMT
#1975
Again, for milo -

On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


Alright, milo, not sure if you are still here, but so it goes...

Re - KSC do you have any thoughts now? He's posted a tonne since you commented on him initially. KSC sometimes has those random one-liners and those aren't/can't be the only things you read from him. Looking at the timestamps it appears those were selectively placed, so does his gameplay since that (or even around those quotes) change your opinion at all?

A few of us have opposing opinions on HF and a couple voiced some dissenting opinions on Damdred - for example Vivax felt that his posts were loaded or baitworthy, like he was trying to reach for an excuse to scumread LS. Do you agree with this assessment (same question also at KSC when he returns btw), I had previously quoted it.

HF, I felt there is some selective reasoning. You probably want to look at the exchanges about 8-9 hours ago to get a sense of what was happening. (Admittedly he's probably not getting lynched today, but it's something that I think everyone needs to think about going on to later days.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 12:08 GMT
#1976
Also by technical possibility you mean its possible the host gave a mafia role to both hf and trfel right?

Yes.

So are clarity and wave mafia together?
yes/no?

Can be both, I don't know it for sure nor do I have an assumption.

You better deliver now an explanation for those totally useless and time stealing questions. It's really scummy.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 07 2015 12:10 GMT
#1977
On July 07 2015 21:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Bloody hell I meant to re-quote not edit that quote block. I am on such a roll today... >_<

can confirm you changed no content
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 12:10 GMT
#1978
On July 07 2015 21:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 21:02 boxerfred wrote:
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.

Lol nice oppurtunstic scumread .


Why do you think boxerfred is mafia Oats?

OMGUS mainly.

And this nonsensical scumread.
Which comes cause I asked him some relevant questions but he bursts and just now mentions things he shouldve mentioned a lot earlier if he really thinks im mafia.
No gg, No skill.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 12:11 GMT
#1979
On July 07 2015 21:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:05 boxerfred wrote:
well no, if you think that trfel and HF cannot both be mafia, then your list has 3 mafia and 1 town.

what a correct and useless statement.

If you are mad i post fluff, then I guess you are mad at pretty much the whole game.

Wait, you're actually admitting that your questions towards me are useless?

On July 07 2015 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:02 boxerfred wrote:
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.

Lol nice oppurtunstic scumread .

The xP theory is real. just wait and see that she flips mafia.

regardless, how am I not reading too well? Can you quote things from your original posts that answer my questions?

You asked me questions that were totally useless and derailed the thread. Are you really wondering about why I just went through your filter? Why is my scumread on you opportunistic?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 07 2015 12:11 GMT
#1980
So we should lynch boxerfred then Oats?
Computer says mafia
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